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kardjaval
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
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Posted - 2012.05.03 09:23:00 -
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who else thinks the new missiel turret look weird on teh drake, not to take a meme out of proportion, but this really is a case of the "yo bro, i heard you like missile turrets, so i put missile turrets on your missile turrets" scenerio,
please dice art department, remove the on-model missile bays, and replace them with recessed launcher hardpoints, so when missile turrets are equipped, they would effectively keep the drakes cool design. |
Degren
Red Federation
RvB - RED Federation
230
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Posted - 2012.05.03 09:25:00 -
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kardjaval wrote:please dice art department, remove...
mmhmm
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Ciar Meara
Virtus Vindice
641
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Posted - 2012.05.03 09:35:00 -
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Pictures?
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kardjaval
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
6
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Posted - 2012.05.03 09:39:00 -
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Ciar Meara wrote:Pictures?
pictures incoming. |
Akirei Scytale
Test Alliance Please Ignore
1264
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Posted - 2012.05.03 09:39:00 -
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kardjaval wrote:"yo bro, i heard you like missile turrets, so i put missile turrets on your missile turrets"
I'm reminded of the bug where your missile model would get replaced by a ship. Drakes shooting drakes out of their launchers were a thing. Of course the only way it ever happens to me is my ship turning into a cloaked Harbinger.
TEST Alliance BEST Alliance |
St Mio
Imperial Academy
Amarr Empire
758
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Posted - 2012.05.03 09:45:00 -
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Courtesy of FHC:
http://img205.imageshack.us/img205/5886/drakeinfernosideshot.png |
Alexandra Alt
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
185
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Posted - 2012.05.03 09:49:00 -
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Looks awesome! |
NickyYo
StarHug
Brotherhood of Starbridge
64
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Posted - 2012.05.03 09:54:00 -
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hmm looks more like a gank boat and drakes are far from that, they are more of a sit and do **** all and carebear boat.. |
Akirei Scytale
Test Alliance Please Ignore
1266
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Posted - 2012.05.03 09:57:00 -
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NickyYo wrote:hmm looks more like a gank boat and drakes are far from that, they are more of a sit and do **** all and carebear boat..
in one setup.
TEST Alliance BEST Alliance |
kardjaval
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
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Posted - 2012.05.03 09:58:00 -
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http://profile.imageshack.us/user/nokozo/
as promised, very close up, of the drake model with turret passive, locked and tracking, and locked and firing. |
Nirnias Stirrum
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
128
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Posted - 2012.05.03 12:41:00 -
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oh gawd wtf... that is horrible looking....
what is wrong with the launchers it has now! nothing! |
Sin Pew
SWARTA
Mostly Clueless
22
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Posted - 2012.05.03 12:48:00 -
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Nirnias Stirrum wrote:oh gawd wtf... that is horrible looking....
what is wrong with the launchers it has now! nothing!
It doesn't have any... missiles are fired from the middle of the ship, surely nothing wrong...
[20:03:08] Sin Pew > I regret the auto zoom when my ship blows, I'd llike to see the fireworks at least if I'm going to blow |
Nirnias Stirrum
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
128
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Posted - 2012.05.03 12:50:00 -
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Sin Pew wrote:Nirnias Stirrum wrote:oh gawd wtf... that is horrible looking....
what is wrong with the launchers it has now! nothing! It doesn't have any... missiles are fired from the middle of the ship, surely nothing wrong...
You might want to have a look at the drake model again if you think it doesnt have any launchers on it.
http://games.chruker.dk/eve_online/graphics/ids/2048/3169.jpg
^ F.Y.I |
Sin Pew
SWARTA
Mostly Clueless
22
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Posted - 2012.05.03 12:58:00 -
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Nirnias Stirrum wrote:Sin Pew wrote:Nirnias Stirrum wrote:oh gawd wtf... that is horrible looking....
what is wrong with the launchers it has now! nothing! It doesn't have any... missiles are fired from the middle of the ship, surely nothing wrong... You might want to have a look at the drake model again if you think it doesnt have any launchers on it. http://games.chruker.dk/eve_online/graphics/ids/2048/3169.jpg^ F.Y.I
That? launchers? always seemed like support pads for upcoming launchers... doesn't change the fact that missiles are launched from the middle of the ship, like any other ship capable of launching missiles while lasers, hybrids and projectiles have positioned and moving turrets. Yeah it's old design and in most situations everyone's too zoomed out to actually see much of a difference anyway, but you did ask what was wrong.
[20:03:08] Sin Pew > I regret the auto zoom when my ship blows, I'd llike to see the fireworks at least if I'm going to blow |
Nirnias Stirrum
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
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Posted - 2012.05.03 13:05:00 -
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Sin Pew wrote:Nirnias Stirrum wrote:Sin Pew wrote:Nirnias Stirrum wrote:oh gawd wtf... that is horrible looking....
what is wrong with the launchers it has now! nothing! It doesn't have any... missiles are fired from the middle of the ship, surely nothing wrong... You might want to have a look at the drake model again if you think it doesnt have any launchers on it. http://games.chruker.dk/eve_online/graphics/ids/2048/3169.jpg^ F.Y.I That? launchers? always seemed like support pads for upcoming launchers... doesn't change the fact that missiles are launched from the middle of the ship, like any other ship capable of launching missiles while lasers, hybrids and projectiles have positioned and moving turrets. Yeah it's old design and in most situations everyone's too zoomed out to actually see much of a difference anyway, but you did ask what was wrong.
They are launchers. I obviously know the missiles spawn from the middle of the ship. Nothing stopping them from implementing it so they get released from the launcher model that is already present, just redesign them to be small bit bigger or something i dunno, never done modelling before. But ones linked earlier, the modeller should be shot, hung then shot again for making something so ugly. |
Corina Jarr
Spazzoid Enterprises
Purpose Built
720
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Posted - 2012.05.03 13:12:00 -
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Looks awesome... except for the flying brick int he way of the picture... oh thats the ship. |
Sin Pew
SWARTA
Mostly Clueless
22
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Posted - 2012.05.03 13:17:00 -
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Nirnias Stirrum wrote:Sin Pew wrote:Nirnias Stirrum wrote:Sin Pew wrote:Nirnias Stirrum wrote:oh gawd wtf... that is horrible looking....
what is wrong with the launchers it has now! nothing! It doesn't have any... missiles are fired from the middle of the ship, surely nothing wrong... You might want to have a look at the drake model again if you think it doesnt have any launchers on it. http://games.chruker.dk/eve_online/graphics/ids/2048/3169.jpg^ F.Y.I That? launchers? always seemed like support pads for upcoming launchers... doesn't change the fact that missiles are launched from the middle of the ship, like any other ship capable of launching missiles while lasers, hybrids and projectiles have positioned and moving turrets. Yeah it's old design and in most situations everyone's too zoomed out to actually see much of a difference anyway, but you did ask what was wrong. Not support pads for launhcers as the drake has been this way for years. They are launchers. I obviously know the missiles spawn from the middle of the ship. Nothing stopping them from implementing it so they get released from the launcher model that is already present, just redesign them to be small bit bigger or something i dunno, never done modelling before. But ones linked earlier, the modeller should be shot, hung then shot again for making something so ugly.
They work on the launchers wich are seperate 3D models, not the ships ('cept for stealth bombers atm), that would require a redesign of the drake and maybe the drake zealots wouldn't like it, otherwise the drake would be the only ship with fixed and motionless missile launchers capable of throwing sticks in a different direction than the one the launcher faces. Just saying.
Also, CCP is giving a skinjob to all ships progressively, so the drake's design will change in some months... oh the horror!
[20:03:08] Sin Pew > I regret the auto zoom when my ship blows, I'd llike to see the fireworks at least if I'm going to blow |
Nirnias Stirrum
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
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Posted - 2012.05.03 13:21:00 -
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That makes sense actually yeh, but wish they wouldnt have some turret sticking out the side of it like that, has to be another way of doing it. I think the skin job is just the new V3 models, i doubt they will actually change the design of any of the ships. |
Ciar Meara
Virtus Vindice
642
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Posted - 2012.05.03 13:47:00 -
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Nirnias Stirrum wrote:That makes sense actually yeh, but wish they wouldnt have some turret sticking out the side of it like that, has to be another way of doing it. I think the skin job is just the new V3 models, i doubt they will actually change the design of any of the ships.
Perhaps but the drake is a ship that with the new missile launcher animations will need some remodeling.
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Xython
Merch Industrial
Goonswarm Federation
844
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Posted - 2012.05.03 14:30:00 -
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I don't see the problem. I had always assumed those were the missile bays, having them be the missile bays is not a huge stretch. Maybe make the "mount" they are on a bit more sunken into the ship so it' s bit more flush, but other than that it seems just fine. I mean, it's a giant paper airplane made of pissed off and high explosive warheads, it's not meant to be elegant. |
Ripperljohn
DON'T DO IT DAD
18
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Posted - 2012.05.03 14:33:00 -
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they put missile launchers on the launchers
Launchception?  |
marVLs
4
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Posted - 2012.05.03 14:35:00 -
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Yup drake need redesing, it looks just stupid and soooo lame with those top launchers... i hope CCP will have some time maybe in next few weeks to work on this. |
ChromeStriker
The Riot Formation
106
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Posted - 2012.05.03 14:44:00 -
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FYI missiles dont launch from the middle of the ship any more... they come from the launchers (rockets are awesome)
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Toshiroma McDiesel
Lupus Draconis
Dragehund
29
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Posted - 2012.05.03 14:50:00 -
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NickyYo wrote:hmm looks more like a gank boat and drakes are far from that, they are more of a sit and do **** all and carebear boat..
http://community.eveonline.com/devblog.asp?a=blog&nbid=3235
The top 20 ships that people have been using to shoot at things (based on final blows):
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313,688
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Drake - Not just for PVE anymore 
The Valdspar is Holy, it must be allowed to float free. Free of lesser rocks that try to clutter it's Holy Path though the Heavens. |
Heimdallofasgard
Apex Clan
158
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Posted - 2012.05.03 14:51:00 -
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"Hey bro we heard you liked launchers so we put launchers on your launchers so you can launch while you launch!"
Perpetuation of a meme? in my EVE?
It's more likely than you think...
I for one approve this. |
Benny Ohu
The Lazy Dragoons
True Apathy
103
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Posted - 2012.05.03 15:00:00 -
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The Eris, Caracal and Tempest also have little missile launchers on the ship, although with Minmatar it's hard to tell.
It'd be nice to have ships like this fire their missiles out of the ship's launchers but it's not exactly high priority. |
Zyress
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
63
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Posted - 2012.05.03 15:11:00 -
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If you notice in that first picture those pads aren't launchers they seem to be hardpoints, there are 8 of them and only 7 of them have launchers on them, the last being the utility high I would imagine. Have they made drone range augmentatators or nuet /nos module models to show up there? |
Mia Restolo
Royal Amarr Institute
Amarr Empire
45
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Posted - 2012.05.03 15:15:00 -
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Redundant launcher is redundant... they should consider removing the ship model launcher pods and have the new launcher hard points recessed into the old spots. |
Danfen Fenix
Vita Aequitas Veritas
The Paganism Alliance
64
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Posted - 2012.05.03 15:28:00 -
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Benny Ohu wrote:The Eris, Caracal and Tempest also have little missile launchers on the ship, although with Minmatar it's hard to tell.
It'd be nice to have ships like this fire their missiles out of the ship's launchers but it's not exactly high priority.
The rifter also appears to have a couple at the back 
Think I also saw something on the Tristan that could pass as one once too, not sure though. |
Phiad Aurilen
Only fools 'n' horses
Comic Mischief
0
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Posted - 2012.05.03 15:49:00 -
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Mmm.. that does look odd. But it does look a damn sight meaner with those new launcher models.
On a side issue about the drake and it's mount points I hope they address the utility slot. As at the moment if I fit a
Salvager I it sits on top near the Drakes rear & only on one side + it hovers (not touching the hull)  |
Vertisce Soritenshi
Varion Galactic
Tragedy.
1614
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Posted - 2012.05.03 15:56:00 -
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Oh Jesus Christ! I KNEW this was going to happen! I even made a thread about it asking what they are gonna do with the Drake for the turrets.
****...
Oh well...here's hoping they fix it with a remodel of the Drake soon.
EvE is not about PvP.-á EvE is about the SANDBOX! - CCP!-á Open the door!!! |
Vimsy Vortis
Shoulda Checked Local
Break-A-Wish Foundation
509
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Posted - 2012.05.03 16:01:00 -
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CCP: unrelenting stream of disappointment |
Markus Reese
Debitum Naturae
ROMANIAN-LEGION
160
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Posted - 2012.05.03 16:01:00 -
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Well, caldari will need model revisions, that is for sure. Probably tweaked as a continuum of Tier3. Note that only the Heavy missile launchers locate on the "launchers".
At least when I fit, the hams and RFLML fit to the standard turret spots on the top.
Call out to the art department, the OP idea of having the heavy launcher spec points being recessed into the hull would be awesome. Come out of warp and they just have that subtle raise over the hull would be amazing! |
I Love Boobies
All Hail Boobies
102
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Posted - 2012.05.03 16:02:00 -
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I could swear that was a Minmatar ship...
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Pertuabo Enkidgan
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
7
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Posted - 2012.05.03 16:03:00 -
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Looks awesome!
Even if the ship is on horribly low graphical settings
I guess they'll remodel the drake or something. |
Ocih
Space Mermaids
Somethin Awfull Forums
158
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Posted - 2012.05.03 16:14:00 -
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I like the Drake. It looks purposed and very military in design. |
CMD Bileena
Black Omega Squadron
Fluffeh Bunneh Murder Squad
29
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Posted - 2012.05.22 13:02:00 -
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As I had a quiet afternoon, I figured i'd see if there was a good reason why the drake wasn't remodelled... I'm by no means an expert in 3d modelling, and no nothing of game design...
However as an amature in Blender, I managed to come up with this in about 40min, half of that being the time it took to export textures and stuff....
http://dl.dropbox.com/u/56018488/blenderdump/temp/drakeRemodel.png
The quick remodelling did screw up some of the textures, but that was probably me being a noob. I think its safe to say though that a team of professional artists could have spat out something a lot better in the same time... its odd they didn't. |
Rovah Guokta
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
0
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Posted - 2012.05.22 13:11:00 -
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CMD Bileena wrote:As I had a quiet afternoon, I figured i'd see if there was a good reason why the drake wasn't remodelled... I'm by no means an expert in 3d modelling, and no nothing of game design... However as an amature in Blender, I managed to come up with this in about 40min, half of that being the time it took to export textures and stuff.... http://dl.dropbox.com/u/56018488/blenderdump/temp/drakeRemodel.pngThe quick remodelling did screw up some of the textures, but that was probably me being a noob. I think its safe to say though that a team of professional artists could have spat out something a lot better in the same time... its odd they didn't.
I'll take two. Looks pretty damn good. |
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