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Andoni Cane Game of Drones 0	Posted - 2012.05.03 20:44:00 - [1] - Quote Well today i was sitting here thinking of opening up a new alt account and decided to see if a name that i liked was taken and it was, by a 2004 character in a school. After which i decided to take a looksie on the forums and found that CCP almost never deletes characters [or at least their names]. Now my question is, is this somthing i should petition CCP to do for me? Shoot 'em a petition that says "Hey look, that character has been inactive for 8 plus years and there are people [namely me] who would want to use that name. Could you at least remove his name so i can use it?" I am fairly certain i will get a resounding "No" as a response, but now the question is, should CCP free up character names from VERY inactive players? I am not talking about 2-3 years i mean people from back before 2005. Or people who have been permabanned. Any thoughts? I am also sure there have been similar discussions in the past but the question remains unanswered.
Micheal Dietrich Standards and Practices 388	Posted - 2012.05.03 20:51:00 - [2] - Quote Seriously guys, what is up with the gankage. I can't reply to the op. There was a big outrage that said people were supposedly keeping the names for possible future use, but like you I believe that after 8 years I seriously doubt that they are coming back. In between ganks breathe But to keep it fair, I mentioned that CCP should email the owner of the player and ask if you would like to relinquish the name or keep it. Attempt #10 to finish my thought. If they don't answer within 7-14 days then that player becomes (nation)citizen(number) I made it! and I think I found a forum bug!
Akirei Scytale Test Alliance Please Ignore 1284	Posted - 2012.05.03 20:51:00 - [3] - Quote I can tell you right now CCP won't delete them, I've asked a GM to delete an ancient alt of my own as I wanted to reuse the name, and they wouldn't go farther than assosciating the old account with my new email after ownership was proven. It would cost me a PLEX to get that name (not really worth it). TEST Alliance BEST Alliance
Roll Sizzle Beef Space Mutiny 335	Posted - 2012.05.03 20:53:00 - [4] - Quote You can now use three word names. Think of something else.
mxzf Shovel Bros 1509	Posted - 2012.05.03 20:55:00 - [5] - Quote I think the general consensus is that most players would agree with accounts which were never activated (never anything but trial) getting deleted after 5+ years. If this'll ever happen or not would be up to CCP.
Andoni Cane Game of Drones 0	Posted - 2012.05.03 20:55:00 - [6] - Quote I'm not really worried about getting the character name in question, i can think of somthing else easy enough but i am wondering more along the lines of should CCP begin looking at reopening some of these names in the future? What will names in another 10 years look like?
Herping yourDerp Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation 549	Posted - 2012.05.03 21:04:00 - [7] - Quote yes delete old names of accounts not subbed. but change them to "eveplayer4u328470340" or something if they come back make them pick a new name.
Karn Dulake Souls Must Be Trampled The.Alliance 587	Posted - 2012.05.03 21:12:00 - [8] - Quote best name ive found so far thats been taken is yourmumtakesbrutor Look it up its real. I dont normally troll, but when i do i do it on General Discussion.
Duvida The Scope Gallente Federation 69	Posted - 2012.05.03 21:28:00 - [9] - Quote I think there are some deep database issues associated with deleting and recycling character names. Given CCP's tight schedule with a reduced staff, and unfortunately, history of not allowing the staff to complete projects, I'd be wary of them pursuing this kind of thing anyway. The unintended consequences could be ugly with this kind of database project.
Wacktopia Noir. Noir. Mercenary Group 240	Posted - 2012.05.03 21:31:00 - [10] - Quote In EVE when you die your name dies to. His name was Robert Paulson. His name was Robert Paulson. His name was Robert Paulson. His name was Robert Paulson. His name was Robert Paulson. His name was Robert Paulson. If you're in a player corp then war-dec is just something you have to accept is coming with it, regardless of your play-style. ~CCP
Large Collidable Object morons. 1371	Posted - 2012.05.03 21:45:00 - [11] - Quote mxzf wrote: I think the general consensus is that most players would agree with accounts which were never activated (never anything but trial) getting deleted after 5+ years. If this'll ever happen or not would be up to CCP. I think that would be a wise approach. No money - RL currency or isk - were ever involved with the account, so it could be deleted - otherwise people could always claim that they invrsted ressources into it. On the other hand, people show an impressive lack of creativity when creating their characters. You know... morons.
Holy One Habitual Euthanasia Pandemic Legion 197	Posted - 2012.05.03 22:11:00 - [12] - Quote Andoni Cane wrote: What will names in another 10 years look like? P much as they do now: a combination of Russenglish and Klingon
Mr Epeen It's All About Me 1369	Posted - 2012.05.03 22:12:00 - [13] - Quote I want to be able to give CCP 4 PLEXes and they just delete whomever I want, active or not, and give me their name. I think I'd make a better The Mittani than he does. Mr Epeen Me too!-á I ate one sour, too!
Morganta Peripheral Madness The Midget Mafia 1079	Posted - 2012.05.03 22:17:00 - [14] - Quote Large Collidable Object wrote: mxzf wrote: I think the general consensus is that most players would agree with accounts which were never activated (never anything but trial) getting deleted after 5+ years. If this'll ever happen or not would be up to CCP. I think that would be a wise approach. No money - RL currency or isk - were ever involved with the account, so it could be deleted - otherwise people could always claim that they invrsted ressources into it. On the other hand, people show an impressive lack of creativity when creating their characters. agree on both points especially the 2nd... if it's already taken (sometimes many times over) it's not very original theres even a morgantaa out there, I mean come on... it's a terrible name already The American public's reaction to the change was poor and the new cola was a major marketing failure. The subsequent reintroduction of Coke's original formula, re-branded as "Coca-Cola Classic", resulted in a significant gain in sales, leading to speculation that the introduction of the New Coke formula was just a marketing ploy
Leemi Sobo 44	Posted - 2012.05.03 22:21:00 - [15] - Quote Large Collidable Object wrote: On the other hand, people show an impressive lack of creativity when creating their characters. yea, i see what you mean
Anya Ohaya School of Applied Knowledge Caldari State 110	Posted - 2012.05.03 22:34:00 - [16] - Quote That name you think is really cool isn't.
Large Collidable Object morons. 1373	Posted - 2012.05.03 22:34:00 - [17] - Quote Morganta wrote: especially the 2nd... if it's already taken (sometimes many times over) it's not very original I think that is only a problem with corp/alliance tickers. In times were every mission runner has his one-man alliance, it becomes increasingly hard to find a decent ticker. The Naming system was opened up with the allowance of a space in the first name (that ws when LCO was created), but alliance and corp tickers would really benefit from additional space/symbols allowed. (Fun fact: i thought moronsdot would be a fun corp name because only morons lacking creativity would pick a corpname with a dot in the name, so the dot underlines the corp name as being moronic. Some time after that, I checked for the availability of the name 'morons' without a dot - turned out there was a never played NPC alt with that name...) You know... morons.
Lady Aja 50	Posted - 2012.05.03 22:37:00 - [18] - Quote many of the inactive characters as you put them are really deleted characters. back in 200.5/5 i easily remember names not being recycled for others to use after i bio massed em. where is my ability to link a sig properly CCP you munters!!
Miilla Hulkageddon Orphanage 287	Posted - 2012.05.03 22:41:00 - [19] - Quote If they delete the names, CCP are effectively saying to the old customer "BOG OFF, WE DONT WANT YOU TO COME BACK; KEEP YOUR MONEY". Frankly it is business suicide it isn't as iff CCP are rolling in money and great business planning, they don't have the money (after loans and operating expenses out of their pre-tax revenue) to do this kind of arrogant thinking. They tried it with Incarna, look where that got em. Layoffs :)
Akita T Caldari Navy Volunteer Task Force 1081	Posted - 2012.05.03 22:54:00 - [20] - Quote With the third word opened up in naming schemes, I think it is a mark of shame upon YOURSELF when you manage to accidentally stumble upon a name that was already taken. Chances are high it would have been a lame name anyway. It's better that it's taken by an inactive rather than see it fly around laming things up. In fact, not only would I keep all names of not-biomassed characters permanently occupied, I would even go so far as including biomassed ones into the list of names that are forbidden. As a start. Then run a modified bayesian filter to ALSO FORBID NAMES THAT ARE TOO SIMILAR to existing names and a long list of relatively well known fantasy and sci-fi characters PLUS stuff too similar to but not identical to any word from the list of proper English words. So if somebody has a name like "Death Master Joe", I would allow "Death Master James", but I would forbid "Deth Mastah -anything-" (too close to proper English words but not properly spelled) and "Death Master Joe123" (too similar to existing name) and also "xXxDeathMasterxXx" (lameness filter, activate!). Similarly, I want to see no "Spider Man", "Wolverine", "Legolas", "Captain Kirk" nor "Darth Vader" either. In fact, while we're at it, why do we even allow numbers ? Eh, I'll let that slide, for now. Bottom line : we need to restrict even more names, not open up those that used to be taken. Stop being so unoriginal, dammit ! ... Heck, I'd probably even reject my own current name right now for not being "proper namey" enough (what's with the single letter there, huh?) and make myself add some more letters. http://wiki.eveonline.com/en/wiki/User:Akita_T http://eve-search.com/stats/Akita_T
Aqriue Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation 630	Posted - 2012.05.03 23:02:00 - [21] - Quote Robert Smith Roberto Smith Robert Smythe Rob Smith Rob Smythe I also use Schmid, Schmidt, Schmitt, Schmitz, Schmied or Roeper (lol three's Company with Don Knots), Rupert, Rhobert, or Bert. Infact, just so you all know...your real world name is not original and has probably been used for the last 1000 years or more in various forms unless you are the child of a celebrity. Why can you not be origional? Take a name, move the letters around, try to make it look...right in your mind...and there you go.
Degren Red Federation RvB - RED Federation 232	Posted - 2012.05.03 23:03:00 - [22] - Quote Can program them to autoflag to be renamed after a certain time. Don't have to delete them, just give them random characters in their name that makes the game say NOPE NOPE NOPE At people saying it's uncreative, etc...Degren is my handle. It's the name I use for all games, it's the name I use to be identified by others. I have like six or seven backups, but I no longer like to use them. It's some strange attachment to a name I made up a few decades ago. It might be uncreative, but I don't pride myself on being able to make up fake names. If I'd had an old, ancient character on here named Degren, I'd be requesting a name swap or something as well. .
adopt Brutor Tribe Minmatar Republic 391	Posted - 2012.05.03 23:07:00 - [23] - Quote I stole my name from The 0rphanages ticker. Shadoo > Always remember to fit Cynosural Field Generator I, have 450 Liquid Ozone in your cargo and convo a friendly Pandemic Legion member if you have a capital or super capital ship tackled. FREE XOLVE ~ THE HERO TEST NEEDS
Simetraz State War Academy Caldari State 244	Posted - 2012.05.03 23:14:00 - [24] - Quote OP How do even know if the character is inactive ? I have characters that have never been in a player corporation. They don't show up on kill boards and have never posted on the forums. It doesn't mean they are inactive.
Akirei Scytale Test Alliance Please Ignore 1301	Posted - 2012.05.03 23:16:00 - [25] - Quote Simetraz wrote: OP How do even know if the character is inactive ? I have characters that have never been in a player corporation. They don't show up on kill boards and have never posted on the forums. It doesn't mean they are inactive. faceless. AFAIK login requires recustomization for old characters. TEST Alliance BEST Alliance
CATPAIN KIRK State War Academy Caldari State 67	Posted - 2012.05.03 23:16:00 - [26] - Quote Akita T wrote: I want to see no "Spider Man", "Wolverine", "Legolas", "Captain Kirk" nor "Darth Vader" either. In fact, while we're at it, why do we even allow numbers ? Eh, I'll let that slide, for now. Bottom line : we need to restrict even more names, not open up those that used to be taken. Stop being so unoriginal, dammit ! ... Heck, I'd probably even reject my own current name right now for not being "proper namey" enough (what's with the single letter there, huh?) and make myself add some more letters. WYH?
Cole S Law Blue Republic RvB - BLUE Republic 0	Posted - 2012.05.04 01:52:00 - [27] - Quote You just need to be more creative.
Arrs Grazznic Poena Executive Solutions 58	Posted - 2012.05.04 02:04:00 - [28] - Quote OP, no. Use some ******* imagination and come up with something original.
Torneach Hedion University Amarr Empire 27	Posted - 2012.05.04 02:30:00 - [29] - Quote CATPAIN KIRK wrote: Akita T wrote: I want to see no "Spider Man", "Wolverine", "Legolas", "Captain Kirk" nor "Darth Vader" either. In fact, while we're at it, why do we even allow numbers ? Eh, I'll let that slide, for now. Bottom line : we need to restrict even more names, not open up those that used to be taken. Stop being so unoriginal, dammit ! ... Heck, I'd probably even reject my own current name right now for not being "proper namey" enough (what's with the single letter there, huh?) and make myself add some more letters. WYH? You're OK, you're Catpain Kirk, pretty awesome if you ask me.
Joran Dravius Imperial Academy Amarr Empire 0	Posted - 2012.05.04 03:02:00 - [30] - Quote I think characters should be automatically deleted after a few years of inactivity. I mean lets face it if a dude hasn't played since 2005 there's no chance of him even remembering his password, much less randomly coming back to a game he hasn't played in almost a decade. Simetraz wrote: OP How do even know if the character is inactive ? I have characters that have never been in a player corporation. They don't show up on kill boards and have never posted on the forums. It doesn't mean they are inactive. For one thing there are a lot of characters with no portrait, which means the haven't logged in since incarna. That's just one example. There are several ways to tell.
Digital Messiah Midnight Elites Echelon Rising 206	Posted - 2012.05.04 03:06:00 - [31] - Quote There realistically are not enough archaic names to merit this. Eve has to low a subscriber number in it's entire entire history to have to enforce a wipe. You do realize that there as many used names as new subscriptions in half a years time for other MMO's right? "Frankly my dear, I don't give a damn"
Natassia Krasnoo R3D SHIFT Red Dawn Alliance 15	Posted - 2012.05.04 09:16:00 - [32] - Quote Joran Dravius wrote: I think characters should be automatically deleted after a few years of inactivity. I mean lets face it if a dude hasn't played since 2005 there's no chance of him even remembering his password, much less randomly coming back to a game he hasn't played in almost a decade. Simetraz wrote: OP How do even know if the character is inactive ? I have characters that have never been in a player corporation. They don't show up on kill boards and have never posted on the forums. It doesn't mean they are inactive. For one thing there are a lot of characters with no portrait, which means the haven't logged in since before incarna. That's just one example. Another is that the dude's last post was a ragequit post from 2004.There are several ways to tell. Actually my current Alliance leader just resubbed after being inactive since 2005......so guess that kinda blows that little theory to bits.
Veshta Yoshida PIE Inc. Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 75	Posted - 2012.05.04 09:25:00 - [33] - Quote Akita T wrote: With the third word opened up in naming schemes, I think it is a mark of shame upon YOURSELF when you manage to accidentally stumble upon a name that was already taken.... Nothing further needs be said. Now if only CCP would introduce a bare minimum of sense in names allowed, too damn many ridiculous ones around ..
Liam Mirren 510	Posted - 2012.05.04 09:39:00 - [34] - Quote As much as I understand the reasoning behind it I have to disagree. Mostly because it sets a precedent about affecting character (names) based on arbitrary rules, which is something we really need to stay away from. Also, we don't need to see any "cool" well known names used by players. At least those old farts had the decency to go inactive with them. Excellence is not a skill, it's an attitude. My guides: http://mirren.freeforums.org
Jernau Gurgeh University of Caille Gallente Federation 0	Posted - 2012.05.04 09:47:00 - [35] - Quote I've been in a noob corp for nearly nine years. It doesn't mean that I'm inactive.
Rodj Blake PIE Inc. Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 852	Posted - 2012.05.04 09:51:00 - [36] - Quote Torneach wrote: CATPAIN KIRK wrote: Akita T wrote: I want to see no "Spider Man", "Wolverine", "Legolas", "Captain Kirk" nor "Darth Vader" either. In fact, while we're at it, why do we even allow numbers ? Eh, I'll let that slide, for now. Bottom line : we need to restrict even more names, not open up those that used to be taken. Stop being so unoriginal, dammit ! ... Heck, I'd probably even reject my own current name right now for not being "proper namey" enough (what's with the single letter there, huh?) and make myself add some more letters. WYH? You're OK, you're Catpain Kirk, pretty awesome if you ask me. All the coolest names are based on characters from old TV series, but with transposed or added letters. Dulce et decorum est pro imperium mori.
Testerxnot Sheepherder Treasures Collectors Northern Associates. 147	Posted - 2012.05.04 09:52:00 - [37] - Quote No.
Captain Stupid The Jeremy Kyle Holding Pen 11	Posted - 2012.05.04 09:54:00 - [38] - Quote I wanted to start a Stupid revolution!
Nirnias Stirrum Caldari Provisions Caldari State 133	Posted - 2012.05.04 10:00:00 - [39] - Quote Iv seen alot of alts that are in use that have never set foot outside of a noob corp, trader alts, price checking alts and so and and so forth. On top of that it could be a database issue, depending on the way a database is configured it might not be possible to delete a name from it.. Some databases that i have worked on once i have created and named a specific screen or section or button or whatever and submitted it, i can delete the name so it no longer appears, but that name is still within the database and cannot be used again without a full fresh install of the database. CCP could have something similar.
Andoni Cane Game of Drones 0	Posted - 2012.05.04 18:12:00 - [40] - Quote Good point about the creativity thing, i most likley really should just stick with somthing i created and not somthing someone else has already thought of haha, I also agree about similar naming restrictions, but i kinda think that alot of folks would rage if they couldnt get 69DarthMaul69 since DarthMaul was either taken or a prohibited name. Some folks think that adding numbers to their name makes them original. Like for example the name i like is cool and all but i would kinda feel like a chump for just adding some random numbers to it. I guess i need to reach deep into my imagination and think of somthing, even if its stupid it will still be original!

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