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Mazare Mircea
Gallente
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Posted - 2009.04.11 23:57:00 -
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Edited by: Mazare Mircea on 11/04/2009 23:59:54
2 Wasp II bpo's, both in high-sec with a clear way to a major trading hub.
First one is ME100/PE10, 2nd one is ME23/PE0.
Initial bid : 20b
Increment : 500m
Reserve : 40b
BO : make me happy
End Date : 12:00 on 20.04.2009
PS: For the stats, check my bio in-game.
LE: Forgot end-time on auction.
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fugazii
the united
Negative Ten.
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Posted - 2009.04.12 00:37:00 -
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lol last one sold went for around 8b.
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Mazare Mircea
Gallente
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Posted - 2009.04.12 00:41:00 -
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 Originally by: fugazii
lol last one sold went for around 8b.
Nobody is forcing you to buy.
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Edison Frisk
Minmatar
Black Lotus Heavy Industries
Ethereal Dawn
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Posted - 2009.04.12 01:23:00 -
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Originally by: fugazii
lol last one sold went for around 8b.
cool I bid 8 billion ISK (serious bid if you want it  )
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attitude man
Viper Squad
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Posted - 2009.04.12 04:37:00 -
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Edited by: attitude man on 12/04/2009 04:37:38
7b bid on 2nd one
if no one buy it :P
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KID R0CK
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Posted - 2009.04.12 13:19:00 -
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Nice prints ... i wish i had isk to take 1 
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Jess Ica
Gallente
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Posted - 2009.04.12 14:48:00 -
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I think his price is for both prints as a package! Would explain the price....
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Korzakov Klawawski
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Posted - 2009.04.12 14:54:00 -
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why is every one *****ing about the price? what profit does 1 print make a year? x 3 = the right price. So i see 3 alts (me included) 2 resellers and 1 genuin buyer...
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Mazare Mircea
Gallente
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Posted - 2009.04.12 19:06:00 -
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Edited by: Mazare Mircea on 12/04/2009 19:07:35
Each of the prints makes 1850 Wasp II's / month. Estimated cost is 150k / unit, and you can bring that one down to 140k with smart shopping - bulk and ahead of time ... not every 2 weeks.
This means 3700 / month, 44400 / yr. If you sell it in Jita, you make about 130k/unit which is not that desirable, but if you sell in other regions, you can get around 400k / unit - NC space is not a bad ideea either.
This means that they make together 10-11b/ yr, or 5-5.5b/ yr for each BPO.
In the end it is your choice if you want to buy them or not, nobody is twisting your arm, all i can say is that both of them, as of tomorrow, will be in manufacturing for me untill the end of the auction.
PS: For building them, PE5 doesn't even make a change over PE4. o.0
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Wayjin
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Posted - 2009.04.12 19:17:00 -
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Originally by: Jess Ica
I think his price is for both prints as a package! Would explain the price....
I'm also curious, since you're not saying it clearly - Are you auctionning both prints at same time (ie : 20b starting bid for both), or is it two separate auctions?
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Mazare Mircea
Gallente
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Posted - 2009.04.12 19:19:00 -
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Originally by: Wayjin
Originally by: Jess Ica
I think his price is for both prints as a package! Would explain the price....
I'm also curious, since you're not saying it clearly - Are you auctionning both prints at same time (ie : 20b starting bid for both), or is it two separate auctions?
Yes, both at the same time. I'd prefer to sell both of them at the same time, but if someone wants one of it, contact me and we can work something out.
PS: I'll try to make the OP more clear.
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Jeetah
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Posted - 2009.04.12 20:00:00 -
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8b on the 2nd one |
Mazare Mircea
Gallente
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Posted - 2009.04.12 23:17:00 -
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bump ?
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Siri Blue
Gallente
Arachnea Phoenix Battalion
Hoodlums Associates
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Posted - 2009.04.13 00:33:00 -
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Howevermuch I run the numbers...the best I come up with is 1.6 bil profits when producing in a station per year per print  - so maybe 2 bil when using a POS...
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Mazare Mircea
Gallente
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Posted - 2009.04.13 00:42:00 -
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Originally by: Siri Blue
Howevermuch I run the numbers...the best I come up with is 1.6 bil profits when producing in a station per year per print - so maybe 2 bil when using a POS...
Sorry to say this, but the numbers are in a post above, and they were confirmed by both ppl that i talked with before the auction and potential buyers. I have used the in-game calculator and an out-of game scientific calculator, so i don't think the problem is at my end.
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Siri Blue
Gallente
Arachnea Phoenix Battalion
Hoodlums Associates
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Posted - 2009.04.13 01:37:00 -
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I discussed the numbers with Mazare - and in theory it is indeed possible to make up to about 7.7 billion ISK profits per year per print...with a lot of work involved, probably including market maipulations, a lot of hauling and market observations - highly unlikely to make more than 4 bil a year when you are not a complete Eve market addict/nerd...
If you are...go for these prints, I'll have to pass...
More than 1 or 1 1/2 years of profits for a print just isn't realistic anymore and basing these profits on very unconservative calculations is even less sane from my point of view...
So good luck on the auction - I guess I'll go back to invention 
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Edison Frisk
Minmatar
Black Lotus Heavy Industries
Ethereal Dawn
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Posted - 2009.04.13 01:38:00 -
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Originally by: Korzakov Klawawski
why is every one *****ing about the price? what profit does 1 print make a year? x 3 = the right price. So i see 3 alts (me included) 2 resellers and 1 genuin buyer...
what you calling me, an alt, reseller or geniune buyer...?? I'll have the first one for 8 billion and it was a genuine bid - certainly not for resale or I would have made a sneaky offer in game - back to your hole mr alt :D
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Mazare Mircea
Gallente
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Posted - 2009.04.13 01:44:00 -
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Originally by: Siri Blue
I discussed the numbers with Mazare - and in theory it is indeed possible to make up to about 7.7 billion ISK profits per year per print...with a lot of work involved, probably including market maipulations, a lot of hauling and market observations - highly unlikely to make more than 4 bil a year when you are not a complete Eve market addict/nerd...
If you are...go for these prints, I'll have to pass...
More than 1 or 1 1/2 years of profits for a print just isn't realistic anymore and basing these profits on very unconservative calculations is even less sane from my point of view...
So good luck on the auction - I guess I'll go back to invention
I'll just like to point out that i personally don't aggree to the 7.7b /yr with 1 of them, because quite frankly you would need to do market manipulations of your own to very high levels. However i do believe that 5.5b/yr for a print can be easily achieved if you don't sell in Jita or to the first buy order you find. :)
PS: Although i do appreciate the bumps, please ... no flamefest here.
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fugazii
the united
Negative Ten.
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Posted - 2009.04.13 03:10:00 -
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Originally by: Edison Frisk
Originally by: Korzakov Klawawski
why is every one *****ing about the price? what profit does 1 print make a year? x 3 = the right price. So i see 3 alts (me included) 2 resellers and 1 genuin buyer...
what you calling me, an alt, reseller or geniune buyer...?? I'll have the first one for 8 billion and it was a genuine bid - certainly not for resale or I would have made a sneaky offer in game - back to your hole mr alt :D
Would guess the reseller part is referring to me and Jess. However I'm not an alt. :)
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Mazare Mircea
Gallente
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Posted - 2009.04.13 15:54:00 -
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Edited by: Mazare Mircea on 13/04/2009 15:55:15
BO offer accepted in-game, and contract already claimed.
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