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Kor Korenfield
The Scope
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Posted - 2009.04.14 05:14:00 -
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Terianna Eri
Amarr
Scrutari
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Posted - 2009.04.14 05:17:00 -
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Rifter, Rupture, Jaguar, Vagabond, Hurricane?
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 Originally by: CCP Whisper
Boo hoo. Cry some more.
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MissileBella
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Posted - 2009.04.14 05:17:00 -
[3]
Pod
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Nova Fox
Gallente
Novafox Shipyards
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Posted - 2009.04.14 05:20:00 -
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Tech 2 Cardboard and Tech 3 Duct Tape! oh and a rusty nail.
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Crimsonjade
Amarr Secret Service
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Posted - 2009.04.14 05:30:00 -
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Originally by: Terianna Eri
Rifter, Rupture, Jaguar, Vagabond, Hurricane?
missed the Tempest, Claymore,Slepnir,Huginn,Hel,Rapier, Scythe,Sabre,Claw and Stilletto.
cant forget the Probe, Wolf and Jaguar, Broadsword...
got to love people who think the ship sucks when its 99.9% them
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Nova Fox
Gallente
Novafox Shipyards
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Posted - 2009.04.14 05:31:00 -
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I forgot the TV dish.
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Vaal Erit
Science and Trade Institute
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Posted - 2009.04.14 05:32:00 -
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Originally by: Crimsonjade
Scythe
lolwut, you mean the ship that has bonuses to mining and tracking links?
Originally by: CCP Whisper
So you're going to have to do some actual thinking with regards to hull components and their capabilities instead of copying some cookie-cutter setup. Cry some more.
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Crimsonjade
Amarr Secret Service
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Posted - 2009.04.14 05:37:00 -
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Originally by: Vaal Erit
Originally by: Crimsonjade
Scythe
lolwut, you mean the ship that has bonuses to mining and tracking links?
yeah i know. most people dont need a boost to tracking targets. but try flying a sniper tempest at 200km and hitting anything. used to be dam useful.
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Von Kapiche
Minmatar
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Posted - 2009.04.14 05:50:00 -
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In which case add the Scimitar instead?
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Jared D'Uroth
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Posted - 2009.04.14 05:57:00 -
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Originally by: Crimsonjade
Originally by: Terianna Eri
Rifter, Rupture, Jaguar, Vagabond, Hurricane?
missed the Tempest, Claymore,Slepnir,Huginn,Hel,Rapier, Scythe,Sabre,Claw and Stilletto.
cant forget the Probe, Wolf and Jaguar, Broadsword...
got to love people who think the ship sucks when its 99.9% them
You were doing okay until you started mention caps and scythes
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Typhado3
Minmatar
Ashen Lion Mining and Production Consortium
Aeternus.
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Posted - 2009.04.14 05:59:00 -
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Originally by: Crimsonjade
Originally by: Vaal Erit
Originally by: Crimsonjade
Scythe
lolwut, you mean the ship that has bonuses to mining and tracking links?
yeah i know. most people dont need a boost to tracking targets. but try flying a sniper tempest at 200km and hitting anything. used to be dam useful.
keyword "used to be" tracking links got nerfed with scripts then scimitar/scythe etc. got their bonuses changed nerfing them even further. though tbh that was a long time ago, like over a year.......
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Crimsonjade
Amarr Secret Service
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Posted - 2009.04.14 06:00:00 -
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Edited by: Crimsonjade on 14/04/2009 06:04:53
tbh every ship is good. its the pilot who has issues. cept the BO's those are pointless still
keyword "used to be" tracking links got nerfed with scripts then scimitar/scythe etc. got their bonuses changed nerfing them even further. though tbh that was a long time ago, like over a year.......
a year in eve is hardly a long time 
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CCP Atropos
C C P
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Posted - 2009.04.14 08:20:00 -
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rifter, thrasher, rupture, stabber, vagabond, hyena, jaguar, rapier, huginn, hurricane, cyclone, ... I'd go on but you get the idea.
Software Engineer
CCP Engineering Services |
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C4rnag3
Space Pioneers
Blade.
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Posted - 2009.04.14 08:39:00 -
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Originally by: Kor Korenfield
damnit alt poster. get nuts!
sabre btw
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Lee Dalton
Amarr
THE FINAL STAND
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Posted - 2009.04.14 08:39:00 -
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Typhoon.
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It doesn't matter how many killmails you have.
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Granmethedon III
Vanishing Point.
The Initiative.
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Posted - 2009.04.14 08:42:00 -
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Originally by: Jared D'Uroth
Originally by: Crimsonjade
Originally by: Terianna Eri
Rifter, Rupture, Jaguar, Vagabond, Hurricane?
missed the Tempest, Claymore,Slepnir,Huginn,Hel,Rapier, Scythe,Sabre,Claw and Stilletto.
cant forget the Probe, Wolf and Jaguar, Broadsword...
got to love people who think the ship sucks when its 99.9% them
You were doing okay until you started mention caps and scythes
Hey come on! They look cool as! Just cause they're rubbish for actually playing the game..... 
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Draeca
Tharri and Co.
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Posted - 2009.04.14 08:47:00 -
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Bellicose.
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mr passie
Minmatar
Purgatorial Janitors Inc.
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Posted - 2009.04.14 08:47:00 -
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long time minnie specialist in here
the jag, you wouldn't believe the number of times I had chats in local with ppl saying wtf you're unkillable (1v1) permatanked a gank brutix in one the other day.
rupture, again in a 1v1 only threatened by a thorax
vaga (or de new flavour of the month fleet issue stabber) outdamaged and outtanked by quite a few ships in eft but as you can dictate range very well you have the upperhand in most fights.
Sleipnir, awesome dps and tank esp in cobination with a dedicated tackler
phoon, lots of training time but even with a 5 man gang one almost took down my own pest before we could kill it, insane dps without being cap reliant.
muninn sniper, awesome fun in long range hac gangs
rapier, a must have in any speed and anti speed gang wil be a wtfpwnmobile in combination with stealthbombers sooon (ok it is also primary in a lot of situations, but you get that with awesome ships)
broadsword, imho the best hic ingame. sat tanking gate guns AND a hac once, in the end the guy just gave up. dont know for sure but it could be possible to tank them to survive a double dd I'm sure
need I say more?
PJI is recruiting!
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Salmeria
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Posted - 2009.04.14 08:50:00 -
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Edited by: Salmeria on 14/04/2009 08:50:25
one problem with minmatar is that large artys need better range and slightly better tracking.
the naglfar is also wierd, it needs more cpu for sure though.
also give the bellicose a web range bonus instead of a RoF bonus. make it like the t2 version of the ship.
the maelstrom is also lacking. its worse then a tempest for all around pvp.
also the cyclone sucks balls. it is a terrible BC and is outclassed by almost every other one.
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Mashie Saldana
Sharks With Frickin' Laser Beams
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Posted - 2009.04.14 08:53:00 -
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Originally by: mr passie
need I say more?
Yes you forgot the Claymore, insane tank and very good gang bonuses.
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Chereadenine Zakalwe
Slacker Industries
The Boat Violencing Initiative
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Posted - 2009.04.14 08:59:00 -
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New Minnie Freighter??
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Arkhan Bayne
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Posted - 2009.04.14 09:01:00 -
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Originally by: Vaal Erit
Originally by: Crimsonjade
Scythe
lolwut, you mean the ship that has bonuses to mining and tracking links?
mining cruisers are handy - you can out mine anything smaller than a covetor, nice for rookies with not that much cash.
matari ships are, generally, pretty good. tempest is a really popular ship, there's a reason. :P
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Emma Durham
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Posted - 2009.04.14 09:12:00 -
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People only think Matari ships are bad because of EFT-driven one-dimensional stat comparisons. E.g. they're only less tankable because EFT doesn't take their small sig radius into account when figuring tracking. They have the best racial armor bonus in the game (taking less damage from FOTM Amarr laser by 10-15% depending on the ammo used). And because so many people don't learn to fight properly simplistic fits that rely on delivering or tanking DPS tend to beat ships and weapon system which rely on tactics and understanding the capabilities of your opponent.
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Typhado3
Minmatar
Ashen Lion Mining and Production Consortium
Aeternus.
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Posted - 2009.04.14 09:19:00 -
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for the most part i think minmatar ships are pretty good just a few things to touch up like our capitals, and giving us back alpha, and while our cepters are awesome I don't think they have enough of a speed advantage (crusader & claw go same speed with same fittings and skills =s).
there's also things like tracking links which are in dire need of a boost and our ewar situation which I've been ****ed off with ever since marauders came out.
ccp fix mining agent missions % pls |
Micia
Minmatar
Minmatar Ship Construction Services
Ushra'Khan
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Posted - 2009.04.14 09:30:00 -
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I loves me my Hound. 
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Should we fall before the dawn,
Say this at our pyre,
"They died Matari warriors,
Their faces to the fire." |
Kagura Nikon
Minmatar
M. Corp
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Posted - 2009.04.14 11:03:00 -
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Originally by: CCP Atropos
rifter, thrasher, rupture, stabber, vagabond, hyena, jaguar, rapier, huginn, hurricane, cyclone, ... I'd go on but you get the idea.
If you had written Naglfar I would have stoped playing eve...
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If brute force doesn't solve your problem... you are not using enough
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Spurty
Caldari
Amok.
Minor Threat.
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Posted - 2009.04.14 11:15:00 -
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rupture, muninn, thrasher
Originally by: Butter Dog
I think you'll find that 10 seconds > 1 month
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Rheed
We The People
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Posted - 2009.04.14 11:18:00 -
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Originally by: Crimsonjade
got to love people who think the ship sucks when its 99.9% them
This, oh god this...
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TraininVain
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Posted - 2009.04.14 11:24:00 -
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Min stuff is in many instances a lot better than the EFT figures would lead you to believe.
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Ecky X
SniggWaffe
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Posted - 2009.04.14 12:04:00 -
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The Typhoon is so good it's better than 2 tempests flown by players a year older than I am. 
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nobodyspecialhere
HEAVEN'S DEATH DEALER'S
V.I.R.A.L.
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Posted - 2009.04.14 12:45:00 -
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Sorry, rapier and huginn are total waste since the web nerf
You cant control the range accurately enuff to make up for the fragile tank and weak DPS
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Granmethedon III
Vanishing Point.
The Initiative.
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Posted - 2009.04.14 12:50:00 -
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Originally by: nobodyspecialhere
Sorry, rapier and huginn are total waste since the web nerf
You cant control the range accurately enuff to make up for the fragile tank and weak DPS
I like the rapier more than ever at the moment; lets be fair, dual 90% webs from 34k was just far too overpowered. Plus, try fitting a painter once in a while, with the missile changes the bonus is much more relevant.
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Gneeznow
North Eastern Swat
Pandemic Legion
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Posted - 2009.04.14 13:08:00 -
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rifter, tempest, cyclone, hurricane, scimitar, rupture, claymore and broadsword all rock
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Ginako
Southern Cross Empire
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Posted - 2009.04.14 13:30:00 -
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The 1971 Ford Pinto
...Thats a Minmatar ship right? 
Please resize sig to a maximum file size no greater than 24000 bytes - Mitnal
BAH! - Me
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Lee Dalton
Amarr
THE FINAL STAND
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Posted - 2009.04.14 13:58:00 -
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Originally by: CCP Atropos
rifter, thrasher, rupture, stabber, vagabond, hyena, jaguar, rapier, huginn, hurricane, cyclone, ... I'd go on but you get the idea.
You lost credibility when you said the stabber and cyclone were good ships.
The best use of those ships is to reprocess them to get minerals for ruptures and hurricanes.
(P.S. buff the hurricane, it needs a 7th turret, like the brutix and harbinger)
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It doesn't matter how many killmails you have.
You're only as good as your last fight. |
Typhado3
Minmatar
Ashen Lion Mining and Production Consortium
Aeternus.
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Posted - 2009.04.14 14:02:00 -
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Edited by: Typhado3 on 14/04/2009 14:02:39
Originally by: Granmethedon III
Originally by: nobodyspecialhere
Sorry, rapier and huginn are total waste since the web nerf
You cant control the range accurately enuff to make up for the fragile tank and weak DPS
I like the rapier more than ever at the moment; lets be fair, dual 90% webs from 34k was just far too overpowered. Plus, try fitting a painter once in a while, with the missile changes the bonus is much more relevant.
I would if I knew anyone who flew ravens in combat =s. Also gotta agree with webs being nerfed too hard for rapier.... right now even if you put double webs on a cepter they can still run back to gate or station and if you havn't got a mwd and awesome skills they can outrun you while being dual webbed. Even if you had 6 webs on your rapier a cepter can still hit 880 mps.... imo when a ship designed to stop fast targets can't stop a fast target then somethings wrong.
ccp fix mining agent missions % pls |
Ginako
Southern Cross Empire
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Posted - 2009.04.14 14:05:00 -
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Originally by: Lee Dalton
Originally by: CCP Atropos
rifter, thrasher, rupture, stabber, vagabond, hyena, jaguar, rapier, huginn, hurricane, cyclone, ... I'd go on but you get the idea.
You lost credibility when you said the stabber and cyclone were good ships.
The best use of those ships is to reprocess them to get minerals for ruptures and hurricanes.
(P.S. buff the hurricane, it needs a 7th turret, like the brutix and harbinger)
The stabber is not a good ship? Surely you jest sir. Please explain your logic. I'll wait right here.
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Please resize sig to a maximum file size no greater than 24000 bytes - Mitnal
BAH! - Me
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Spurty
Caldari
Amok.
Minor Threat.
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Posted - 2009.04.14 14:07:00 -
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Originally by: Lee Dalton
You lost credibility when you said the stabber and cyclone were good ships.
Recommend you go watch the EVE tourney and pay attention to the ships that do the pwn'ing
Originally by: Butter Dog
I think you'll find that 10 seconds > 1 month
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Lee Dalton
THE FINAL STAND
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Posted - 2009.04.14 14:09:00 -
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Originally by: Ginako
Originally by: Lee Dalton
Originally by: CCP Atropos
rifter, thrasher, rupture, stabber, vagabond, hyena, jaguar, rapier, huginn, hurricane, cyclone, ... I'd go on but you get the idea.
You lost credibility when you said the stabber and cyclone were good ships.
The best use of those ships is to reprocess them to get minerals for ruptures and hurricanes.
(P.S. buff the hurricane, it needs a 7th turret, like the brutix and harbinger)
The stabber is not a good ship? Surely you jest sir. Please explain your logic. I'll wait right here.
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Pre-QR, speed tanking a Stabber was very good. Now, the speed tank on a Stabber is far less effective - relatively speaking, a 1600mm plated Rupture significantly outclasses it. So, in my view, the Stabber is now a bad ship.
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Lee Dalton
THE FINAL STAND
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Posted - 2009.04.14 14:11:00 -
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Originally by: Spurty
Originally by: Lee Dalton
You lost credibility when you said the stabber and cyclone were good ships.
Recommend you go watch the EVE tourney and pay attention to the ships that do the pwn'ing
News just in: Stabber Fleet Issues and Sleipnirs are not the same as Stabbers and Cyclones.
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Jaina Proudmoar
Caldari
School of Applied Knowledge
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Posted - 2009.04.14 14:36:00 -
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Originally by: Granmethedon III
I like the rapier more than ever at the moment; lets be fair, dual 90% webs from 34k was just far too overpowered. Plus, try fitting a painter once in a while, with the missile changes the bonus is much more relevant.
Like 6 jammers at 250 km out? :)
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Kralin Ignatov
The Colour Out of Space
Un-Natural Selection
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Posted - 2009.04.14 14:39:00 -
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stabber could pass as an acceptable ship
cyclone is just horrible
and the Hel is only good, cause its counterpart, the Nid, sucks balls
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RedSplat
Heretic Army
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Posted - 2009.04.14 14:41:00 -
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Edited by: RedSplat on 14/04/2009 14:42:13
Originally by: CCP Atropos
rifter, thrasher, rupture, stabber, vagabond, hyena, jaguar, rapier, huginn, hurricane, cyclone, ... I'd go on but you get the idea.
You aren't in the Zulupark camp of 'fit your Tempest with Medium guns' are you?
Originally by: Kralin Ignatov
cyclone is just horrible
No.
Originally by: CCP Mitnal
I don't sleep.
I am always here.
Watching.
Waiting.
Originally by: CCP Mitnal
it does get progressively longer.
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Faife
Federation of Freedom Fighters
Aggression.
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Posted - 2009.04.14 15:22:00 -
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Edited by: Faife on 14/04/2009 15:23:28
great:
rifter, rupture, rapier, stiletto, broadsword, sabre, muninn, vagabond, sleipnir, hurricane, typhoon, tempest, jaguar, claymore
good:
probe, cheetah, stabber, nidhoggur, ragnarok, maelstrom, huginn, wolf, scimitar
good lol ship:
cyclone
freaking vertical:
naglfar
meh:
* else
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Mutnin
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Posted - 2009.04.14 16:18:00 -
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Edited by: Mutnin on 14/04/2009 16:27:21
Minmatar seem to have their faults, but honestly I think it's more along the lines of needing a lot more training to be good. I started this alt just before the update, because my other alt was fairly new and a Minmi but I wanted to try something different.
Everyone says Amarr is the best for the moment but honestly I'd prefer to have my projectile guns right now. I've been playing with a fully T2 fit Punisher and it doesn't seem to compare with a fully T2 fit Rifter.
I don't have much experience with anything bigger than a battle cruiser for the Minmatar but even with T1 guns the Rupture and Hurricane are very good ships. Sure they lack range but up close they do quite a bit of damage. Just my guess but a T1 fit Minmatar Crusier/battle cruiser would likely out damage a T1 fit Amarr cruiser/battle crusier.
Minmatar might have problems in bigger ships, but IMO they own the market for the smaller stuff other than drone boats and probably the Thorax.
edit..
Those complaining about the Cyclone.. Well IMO it's better as a fleet support ship. All you gate camping tards should love it.. It has 5 mid slots and gets bonus for sensor boosters. It can boost the crap out of your fleet in the mids, then just fit a armor tank in the lows. You then have lots of highs to fit some 425mm's to max out of damage being your in a fleet. It also holds more drones than a hurricane.
Is it a solo ship? Hell no, at least not like the hurricane, but it's a hell of a fleet support ship. Not to mention you could fill the mids with cap boosters and perma RR your fleet. Of course no one ever wants to be the support, everyone want to be the ganker with the KM..
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Kor Korenfield
The Scope
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Posted - 2009.04.14 16:22:00 -
[46]
I'm sorry people (including the dev) you are all mistaken. Feel free to correct your erroneous ways (although if you wish to continue with being wrong, then by all means).
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JordanParey
Minmatar
Suddenly Ninjas
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Posted - 2009.04.14 16:50:00 -
[47]
I <3 me my Maelstrom =)
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H Lecter
Gallente
The Black Rabbits Academy
The Gurlstas Associates
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Posted - 2009.04.14 16:53:00 -
[48]
Originally by: Kor Korenfield
I'm sorry people (including the dev) you are all mistaken. Feel free to correct your erroneous ways (although if you wish to continue with being wrong, then by all means).
Come on, stop whining.
And if you try to be funny, try harder. I knew that your initial post would be empty, before I even clicked on it.
Originally by: Rells
First of all, I wouldn't give you the sweat off my balls.
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Hysenthlay
Minmatar
Old Timers Guild
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Posted - 2009.04.14 17:15:00 -
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Please... Keep the Minmatar ships suck threads alive.
Helps keep the cost of my rides lower
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Megan Maynard
Minmatar
Out of Order
Tenth Legion
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Posted - 2009.04.14 17:19:00 -
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Edited by: Megan Maynard on 14/04/2009 17:24:32
Minmatar ships are wierd. Huge skill tree, lots of potential, but if flown or fit wrong utter failure.
I hate admitting it, but the drake is insanely good compared to the minnie BC line. Tempest is nice with all kinds of utility slots, phoon is good once you get t2 torps, heavy drones, and autocannons, rupture is a beast.
Bellicose is fun with the big drone bay, stabber is a good tackler, jag is as well.
Lack of ewar is frustrating sometimes, but with the decent drone bays most of these ships have you can just use ECM drones. (TP isn't really ewar, it's a tracking computer for the whole gang.)
Those of you commenting on the scythe, keep in mind I have a HAC shield tank, can perma run a MWD and a Large shield transporter and have a medium as back up. The drones can rep as much as a large rep if you have t2 drones. It's a good ship.
edit: to clarify, there is a big difference between sitting still repping people and being able to dictate range and stay out of bubbles. Or being able to keep up with a nano gang, or being able to fit damage drones and a point, or being fast enough to get a bump on a target. The scythe does everything the other logistics ships can not do, participate actively in pvp, not just sit, rep, and die with out having a chance to escape.
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Ghoest
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Posted - 2009.04.14 17:27:00 -
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A ship is only "great" if it does something particularly desirable better than any other ship in the same price range.
The minmatar list is fairly short. Terianna Eri covered most of the list in this threads second post. I might add the Broadsword and Typhoon.
Minmatar does have several good ships that stack up well to equivalent ships from other races - but they arent "great".
Wherever you went - Here you are.
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Megan Maynard
Minmatar
Out of Order
Tenth Legion
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Posted - 2009.04.14 17:32:00 -
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The cyclone. Sigh. It's a love-hate relationship atm.....
I love the tankability. I love the speed. (1400 m/s with a single MWD and a nanofiber.) I love the broad damage I can apply to targets. (EMP ammo, thermal heavy missiles, explosive drones.) I love how it can out tank the cane with some cheap shield rigs, a large shield booster, and an invuln. (Over heat that large booster baby.)
I hate the sub par dps compared to the other "tanky" BC's. (Myrm, Proph, drake) I hate the Cap issues.
Everything about it screams NO NO NO. But the more I fly them the more I like them. I can fit it a billion ways, it's by far the cheapest t2/rigged ship I can field, and holy crap it's soooo fast.
I could go back and forth all day. I wish the shield boost bonus was boosted so this ship was more in line with the other tanky ships, that is all I would change.
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Megan Maynard
Minmatar
Out of Order
Tenth Legion
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Posted - 2009.04.14 17:41:00 -
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Originally by: Ghoest
A ship is only "great" if it does something particularly desirable better than any other ship in the same price range.
The minmatar list is fairly short. Terianna Eri covered most of the list in this threads second post. I might add the Broadsword and Typhoon.
Minmatar does have several good ships that stack up well to equivalent ships from other races - but they arent "great".
Agreed, some of them just seem to "fill" niches that are there, whether or not it is needed. Tempest "fills" the fleet role. It's not great, but it's not bad either. Bellicose "fills" the ewar role. It's fun, but it's no blackbird. Hurricane does all kinds of damage, but it always seems to fall short compared to the drake. (WHY THE HELL DID THEY AXE THE 7TH TURRET???????) Some will disagree with that, but a drake can out damage and out tank a cane. Period. You can post your fancy rigged, maxed skill set ups, but a drake is pound for pound the king of the hill.
I keep flying minmatar, I like the challenge, I like the variety.
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Turiel Demon
Minmatar
Shadow Reapers
DAMAGE INC...
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Posted - 2009.04.14 17:55:00 -
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I feel that outside of BS, minny ships are probably the nicest single race you can have trained... but you've got to not only want simple gank/tank type ships, and you've got to appreciate speed.
At BS level, the Mael is ok for missioning, possibly small gangs, but the Tempest is better, the Typhoon is only ok if you have enough SP that you could just as easily fly a dread (Typh and Nagl have about 90% skills in common), and the Temp only just measures up against other race BS. I believe the issue there lies not with the ships, but with large projectile weapons, but that's up for debate.
In any event, the Hurricane almost single-handedly makes up for all possible failings of other Minny ships... beautiful and near perfect in every way 
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Faife
Federation of Freedom Fighters
Aggression.
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Posted - 2009.04.14 18:14:00 -
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Edited by: Faife on 14/04/2009 18:21:44
Originally by: Megan Maynard
The cyclone. Sigh. It's a love-hate relationship atm.....
I love the tankability. I love the speed. (1400 m/s with a single MWD and a nanofiber.) I love the broad damage I can apply to targets. (EMP ammo, thermal heavy missiles, explosive drones.) I love how it can out tank the cane with some cheap shield rigs, a large shield booster, and an invuln. (Over heat that large booster baby.)
I hate the sub par dps compared to the other "tanky" BC's. (Myrm, Proph, drake) I hate the Cap issues.
Everything about it screams NO NO NO. But the more I fly them the more I like them. I can fit it a billion ways, it's by far the cheapest t2/rigged ship I can field, and holy crap it's soooo fast.
I could go back and forth all day. I wish the shield boost bonus was boosted so this ship was more in line with the other tanky ships, that is all I would change.
[Cyclone, Faife's Hero Tank]
Gyrostabilizer II
Damage Control II
Co-Processor II
Type-D Attenuation Signal Augmentation
X-Large Shield Booster II
Invulnerability Field II
Invulnerability Field II
Medium Capacitor Booster II, Cap Booster 800
Medium Capacitor Booster II, Cap Booster 800
220mm Vulcan AutoCannon II, Barrage M
220mm Vulcan AutoCannon II, Barrage M
220mm Vulcan AutoCannon II, Barrage M
220mm Vulcan AutoCannon II, Barrage M
220mm Vulcan AutoCannon II, Barrage M
'Malkuth' Standard Missile Launcher I, Caldari Navy Bloodclaw Light Missile
'Malkuth' Standard Missile Launcher I, Caldari Navy Bloodclaw Light Missile
'Malkuth' Standard Missile Launcher I, Caldari Navy Bloodclaw Light Missile
Core Defence Capacitor safeguard I
Core Defence Capacitor safeguard I
Core Defence Operational Solidifier I
Hammerhead II x3
Hobgoblin II x2
EDIT: believe it or not, if you time your cap boosting right (11 seconds between A and B firing) it's actually cap stable, up until the cap charges run out. which is pretty quickly. but still, omfg hero tank.
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Megan Maynard
Minmatar
Out of Order
Tenth Legion
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Posted - 2009.04.14 18:23:00 -
[56]
Edited by: Megan Maynard on 14/04/2009 18:25:31
Originally by: Faife
stuff
No MWD, cyclone is fast, I won't hit crap with auto's.
Two, you fly a titan. Stick to that.
I usually roll with:
5x 650's
3x heavy launchers
1x AB
1x Disrupter
1x large shield booster
1x invuln
1x medium cap booster
1x damage control
1x PDU
2x gyro's
1 em, 1 kinetic, 1 thermal rig. (3 mil a pop to make=MUCH better tank.)
Or i swap out for 220's, 3x assault launchers, a mwd, 1 gyro and a nanofiber.
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Dickbuttes
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Posted - 2009.04.14 21:40:00 -
[57]
Originally by: Salmeria
Edited by: Salmeria on 14/04/2009 08:50:25
one problem with minmatar is that large artys need better range and slightly better tracking.
the naglfar is also wierd, it needs more cpu for sure though.
also give the bellicose a web range bonus instead of a RoF bonus. make it like the t2 version of the ship.
the maelstrom is also lacking. its worse then a tempest for all around pvp.
also the cyclone sucks balls. it is a terrible BC and is outclassed by almost every other one.
yea this owns
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Seishomaru
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Posted - 2009.04.15 11:57:00 -
[58]
The larger the Minmatar ship the worse it gets... (exception is the ragnarok due to damage type).
Large projectiles need rework.. Xlarge projectiles need HUGE boost
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Granmethedon III
Vanishing Point.
The Initiative.
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Posted - 2009.04.15 12:01:00 -
[59]
Originally by: Jaina Proudmoar
Originally by: Granmethedon III
I like the rapier more than ever at the moment; lets be fair, dual 90% webs from 34k was just far too overpowered. Plus, try fitting a painter once in a while, with the missile changes the bonus is much more relevant.
Like 6 jammers at 250 km out? :)
Get no argument from me there! :)
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Kor Korenfield
The Scope
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Posted - 2009.04.15 12:30:00 -
[60]
Originally by: Faife
[Cyclone, Faife's Hero Tank]
Meh, I prefer this
[Cyclone, Kor's Hero Cyclone]
Co-Processor II
Co-Processor II
Damage Control II
Power Diagnostic System II
X-Large Shield Booster II
Invulnerability Field II
Invulnerability Field II
Medium Capacitor Booster II, Cap Booster 800
'Copasetic' I Particle Field Acceleration
220mm Vulcan AutoCannon II, Barrage M
220mm Vulcan AutoCannon II, Barrage M
220mm Vulcan AutoCannon II, Barrage M
220mm Vulcan AutoCannon II, Barrage M
220mm Vulcan AutoCannon II, Barrage M
Heavy Missile Launcher II, Guristas Thunderbolt Heavy Missile
Heavy Missile Launcher II, Guristas Thunderbolt Heavy Missile
Heavy Missile Launcher II, Guristas Thunderbolt Heavy Missile
Core Defence Capacitor safeguard I
Core Defence Capacitor safeguard I
Core Defence Operational Solidifier I
Hammerhead II x3
Hobgoblin II x2
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Ulair Memmet
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Posted - 2009.04.15 12:30:00 -
[61]
How could you forget the Naglfar? Best looking ship ingame
I never used Ctrl + Q and im PROUD OF IT |
Nova Fox
Gallente
Novafox Shipyards
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Posted - 2009.04.15 12:32:00 -
[62]
I forgot another great minmatar ship the soap box car and trash can. they're both quite excellent.
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Jaina Proudmoar
Caldari
School of Applied Knowledge
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Posted - 2009.04.15 13:27:00 -
[63]
Originally by: Nova Fox
I forgot another great minmatar ship the soap box car and trash can. they're both quite excellent.
Trash can is nerfed this patch, apparently it outclassed the other Minmatar ships too much.
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Lonzo Kincaid
Black Nova Corp
KenZoku
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Posted - 2009.04.15 13:31:00 -
[64]
Originally by: CCP Atropos
cyclone
wat
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Mezuza
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Posted - 2009.06.06 09:55:00 -
[65]
the cyclone is trash. Don't start talking like it has any role in pvp. Buffers are the way to go (almost always) and the cyclone has a shield boost bonus....
Oh wait, maybe its good for pve. Ah wait, its dps is crap with only 5 turrets. Not to mention its cap isnt even good enough to maintain a shield booster.
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