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DB Preacher	Posted - 2004.08.27 10:37:00 - [31] If you wish to present a counter neutral perspective, Propehcy, then perhaps you should. But merely stating that I am lying without presenting any facts of your own to back that accusation is something I am used too. So forgive me if I don't lose any sleep over your estimation of my analysis. thx dbp Current RKK Ranking: (CAL4) Soldier Drop by and say hi in Reikoku Forums.
DB Preacher	Posted - 2004.08.27 10:37:00 - [32] If you wish to present a counter neutral perspective, Propehcy, then perhaps you should. But merely stating that I am lying without presenting any facts of your own to back that accusation is something I am used too. So forgive me if I don't lose any sleep over your estimation of my analysis. thx dbp Current RKK Ranking: (CAL4) Soldier Drop by and say hi in Reikoku Forums.
fugazii	Posted - 2004.08.27 10:39:00 - [33] not tryin to start a flame or anything, but in the start of the war i was in cod and for the most part the entire cod fleet was lost within 3 weeks and losing thier stations frequently, leaving after a little over 3 wks i cant say what has happened post then but what happened then shouldnt jst be catagorized as jst "log on log off ect..."
fugazii	Posted - 2004.08.27 10:39:00 - [34] not tryin to start a flame or anything, but in the start of the war i was in cod and for the most part the entire cod fleet was lost within 3 weeks and losing thier stations frequently, leaving after a little over 3 wks i cant say what has happened post then but what happened then shouldnt jst be catagorized as jst "log on log off ect..."
Rod Blaine	Posted - 2004.08.27 10:40:00 - [35] Originally by: Propehcy Edited by: Propehcy on 27/08/2004 10:32:13 DBP: I can say, with full certainty, FROM MY POINT OF VIEW, that your perception is flawed, wrong, and warped in many ways. The fact that you can't admit that your post is one sided, and the fact that you can't possibley gain all of the numbers of the enemy's movements as you have, ("The PA moved 75% of it's alliance into the same system in an effort to kill the corp's there."). I frankly think you've taken your personal opinions, grabbed a bunch of numbers out of your ass, and slapped the word of "truth" to it. A disgusting attempt at a "neutral" post I think. -Prophecy EDIT: Grammatical Error. Proph ! You want to buy that zyd we loot from PA or not ? Stop interfering with our threads man. We have the PA to whine about the numbers already. Again, can't judge the Fade/Deklein area but I know the tenal/branch stuff is true. Trust another ex-CA member already You know I don't post crap (alot). _______________________________________________ Yes yes, blogging is passÚ I know. Rod's Ramblingz on Eve-Online Solutions to your issues.
Rod Blaine	Posted - 2004.08.27 10:40:00 - [36] Originally by: Propehcy Edited by: Propehcy on 27/08/2004 10:32:13 DBP: I can say, with full certainty, FROM MY POINT OF VIEW, that your perception is flawed, wrong, and warped in many ways. The fact that you can't admit that your post is one sided, and the fact that you can't possibley gain all of the numbers of the enemy's movements as you have, ("The PA moved 75% of it's alliance into the same system in an effort to kill the corp's there."). I frankly think you've taken your personal opinions, grabbed a bunch of numbers out of your ass, and slapped the word of "truth" to it. A disgusting attempt at a "neutral" post I think. -Prophecy EDIT: Grammatical Error. Proph ! You want to buy that zyd we loot from PA or not ? Stop interfering with our threads man. We have the PA to whine about the numbers already. Again, can't judge the Fade/Deklein area but I know the tenal/branch stuff is true. Trust another ex-CA member already You know I don't post crap (alot). _______________________________________________ Yes yes, blogging is passÚ I know. Rod's Ramblingz on Eve-Online Solutions to your issues.
Propehcy	Posted - 2004.08.27 10:52:00 - [37] I don't have a neutral position on the war, other then I make money on that, but i'm intelligant enough to admit i don't have a neutral position on it, and thus, don't post a one sided one, You seem to think that your post is neautral. (which it isn't), and a blatentley obvious lie such as that, as well as the idea that a post such as taht was "Neuatral" rubs me the wrong way. What I do know, is that Some of your "truths" are false, as I have contacts on both sides of this war, however, seeing as i'm Neutral, i'm not going to post them, or discuss them at great lengths, that's your adversaries job, not mine. Quote: But merely stating that I am lying without presenting any facts of your own to back that accusation is something I am used too. And what facts do you have to support your claims at your back? Other then your one sided opinion? Facts and Proof are part of the Truth, not Perception and Opinion. @ Blaine: Talk later mate . -Prophecy Ex-CA Rep and Ex-CA Member http://www.designegrafix.com/eve/prop5.jpg Props Chop Shop: Ships, Arms, and Armaments producer for Northern Eve! Located at Torrinos 5 - 6 - Home Guard Assembley. The Prop And Notferr Chronicles Notferr> Propehcy Owns me! Yet I feel so much Fear in his Evil Presence! Propehcy> Bow Down, You know who your Master is. Notferr> Only Prop is King!! Only Prop!! I Am nothing! Propehcy> I think Stav would be Proud. Propehcy> I Need a Tool... Where is that Notferr... [ 2004.09.11 28:63:98 ] Propehcy 2004.09.11 29:05:33.3 combat Your Miner II perfectly strikes Notferr, wrecking for WTFPWNAGE.
Propehcy	Posted - 2004.08.27 10:52:00 - [38] I don't have a neutral position on the war, other then I make money on that, but i'm intelligant enough to admit i don't have a neutral position on it, and thus, don't post a one sided one, You seem to think that your post is neautral. (which it isn't), and a blatentley obvious lie such as that, as well as the idea that a post such as taht was "Neuatral" rubs me the wrong way. What I do know, is that Some of your "truths" are false, as I have contacts on both sides of this war, however, seeing as i'm Neutral, i'm not going to post them, or discuss them at great lengths, that's your adversaries job, not mine. Quote: But merely stating that I am lying without presenting any facts of your own to back that accusation is something I am used too. And what facts do you have to support your claims at your back? Other then your one sided opinion? Facts and Proof are part of the Truth, not Perception and Opinion. @ Blaine: Talk later mate . -Prophecy Ex-CA Rep and Ex-CA Member http://www.designegrafix.com/eve/prop5.jpg Props Chop Shop: Ships, Arms, and Armaments producer for Northern Eve! Located at Torrinos 5 - 6 - Home Guard Assembley. The Prop And Notferr Chronicles Notferr> Propehcy Owns me! Yet I feel so much Fear in his Evil Presence! Propehcy> Bow Down, You know who your Master is. Notferr> Only Prop is King!! Only Prop!! I Am nothing! Propehcy> I think Stav would be Proud. Propehcy> I Need a Tool... Where is that Notferr... [ 2004.09.11 28:63:98 ] Propehcy 2004.09.11 29:05:33.3 combat Your Miner II perfectly strikes Notferr, wrecking for WTFPWNAGE.
Omniwar	Posted - 2004.08.27 10:54:00 - [39] m0o came to Venal some time back to fight great battles and gank many miners to cripple PA, we soon came bored since almost no PA were to be found so we left to PF/FD area and pillaged a bit there and hit some semi alliances in the surrounding area. After we heard that PA was trying to make a stand again we packed up our things and have brought up our killing maniacs but sadly there are few PA to be found in Venal and Pure Blind which m0o now controls with our uber ganking abilities PA's time has passed and time for new corps to make their home in that part of space LEAVE SHRIKE'S LAND SO WE CAN GO KILL SOMETHING ELSE *Spawn of the Devil*
Omniwar	Posted - 2004.08.27 10:54:00 - [40] m0o came to Venal some time back to fight great battles and gank many miners to cripple PA, we soon came bored since almost no PA were to be found so we left to PF/FD area and pillaged a bit there and hit some semi alliances in the surrounding area. After we heard that PA was trying to make a stand again we packed up our things and have brought up our killing maniacs but sadly there are few PA to be found in Venal and Pure Blind which m0o now controls with our uber ganking abilities PA's time has passed and time for new corps to make their home in that part of space LEAVE SHRIKE'S LAND SO WE CAN GO KILL SOMETHING ELSE *Spawn of the Devil*

Artegg	Posted - 2004.08.27 10:55:00 - [41] This is a post from my side now: R-K were tasked with attacking and killing COD and FU. We moved all our primary combat chara's in to Deklein space and started our war. When we first moved in the brave fighters of COD and FU used to get together fleets of 30-40 ships to hunt us and try and kill us What happened next can only be described as a slaughter we went through a patch of killing 10-15 battleships a day for about 2 weeks as can be seen here Linkage After this initial slaughter we found that the fleet size was starting to drop, also consider the fact that this is just 1 corperation doing this out of 4 that are involved. While Evol m0o and co claim to be killing the PA in BKG and totally owning them on the numbers side what they do not consider is that there are 3-4 corps that are killing a minimum of 5 battleship each a day. Evol m0o and co are happy to sit in BKG while their companions in arms are getting totally slaughtered. At some point some forces from Norad decided to come up and help them in their fight, these forces were engaged at the Gate and were sistamatically sent back to their clone points and that was the last we saw of them, in till a few weekends ago when BNC decided to move in to Deklein to help (i dont know why because apparently COD and FU still control their space right.) At the same time numbers with in R-K start to drop for RL reason such as me moving to london, Fisty trying to sort out his schooling next year, people moving house and people traveling, with the influx of BNC in to Deklein the few members of R-K that are active atm were struggling to to control the hoards so instead of sitting at safe spots being outblobbed 3 to 1 all the time the force decides to leave and R-K scatter. Now on to the current day the PA have decided to tackle this war one front at a time. While Evol and m0o decided to sit in BKG and Mine some more and bring in miners that they are now taxing the PA fleet is totally running wild in Deklien and Fade totally unopposed. Evol and co did decide to bring a fleet down and not engage and then leave due to reluctance to engage in fleet battles. DBP makes big claims like: "Evolution are now in full unrestricted control of the Branch Regions." "Sol Confederate have been moved into Tenal to allow the population regrowth of a prosperous region" while at the same time stating in his post that the PA are off fighting other forces. Well done Evol you guys control a area that no one is in. While all this is going on the majority of the PA are doing a sterling job fighting in BKG but as DBP k indly pointed out this war has been going on for 3 months and with the current game mechanics it is not much harder to defend than attack, so the majority of the PA got bored of sitting in BKG and decided to take a break and do something fun after all that is why we all play this game for fun. Lets face it with a change in game mechanics if we could defend well and do things like warp to safespots this war would have been over much sooner imo. Future of the war: Personally i see no end to this war. I will not make stupid assumptions like the above post. -Is COD and FU dead probally not -Is the PA dead certainly not -Will Evol maintain Control of the above mentioned area's Certainly not - Is there a propsect of this war ending soon, nope - Will retarded posts like this be made every week for the rest of the war almost certainly yes. - Are we all having fun hell yes - Do we want this war to end hell No - Who has killed the most ships each day well In BKG that prize goes to the agressors - Who has killed the most ships overall each day. I would personally say us. That is Arteggs views of what is going on enjoy
Artegg	Posted - 2004.08.27 10:55:00 - [42] This is a post from my side now: R-K were tasked with attacking and killing COD and FU. We moved all our primary combat chara's in to Deklein space and started our war. When we first moved in the brave fighters of COD and FU used to get together fleets of 30-40 ships to hunt us and try and kill us What happened next can only be described as a slaughter we went through a patch of killing 10-15 battleships a day for about 2 weeks as can be seen here Linkage After this initial slaughter we found that the fleet size was starting to drop, also consider the fact that this is just 1 corperation doing this out of 4 that are involved. While Evol m0o and co claim to be killing the PA in BKG and totally owning them on the numbers side what they do not consider is that there are 3-4 corps that are killing a minimum of 5 battleship each a day. Evol m0o and co are happy to sit in BKG while their companions in arms are getting totally slaughtered. At some point some forces from Norad decided to come up and help them in their fight, these forces were engaged at the Gate and were sistamatically sent back to their clone points and that was the last we saw of them, in till a few weekends ago when BNC decided to move in to Deklein to help (i dont know why because apparently COD and FU still control their space right.) At the same time numbers with in R-K start to drop for RL reason such as me moving to london, Fisty trying to sort out his schooling next year, people moving house and people traveling, with the influx of BNC in to Deklein the few members of R-K that are active atm were struggling to to control the hoards so instead of sitting at safe spots being outblobbed 3 to 1 all the time the force decides to leave and R-K scatter. Now on to the current day the PA have decided to tackle this war one front at a time. While Evol and m0o decided to sit in BKG and Mine some more and bring in miners that they are now taxing the PA fleet is totally running wild in Deklien and Fade totally unopposed. Evol and co did decide to bring a fleet down and not engage and then leave due to reluctance to engage in fleet battles. DBP makes big claims like: "Evolution are now in full unrestricted control of the Branch Regions." "Sol Confederate have been moved into Tenal to allow the population regrowth of a prosperous region" while at the same time stating in his post that the PA are off fighting other forces. Well done Evol you guys control a area that no one is in. While all this is going on the majority of the PA are doing a sterling job fighting in BKG but as DBP k indly pointed out this war has been going on for 3 months and with the current game mechanics it is not much harder to defend than attack, so the majority of the PA got bored of sitting in BKG and decided to take a break and do something fun after all that is why we all play this game for fun. Lets face it with a change in game mechanics if we could defend well and do things like warp to safespots this war would have been over much sooner imo. Future of the war: Personally i see no end to this war. I will not make stupid assumptions like the above post. -Is COD and FU dead probally not -Is the PA dead certainly not -Will Evol maintain Control of the above mentioned area's Certainly not - Is there a propsect of this war ending soon, nope - Will retarded posts like this be made every week for the rest of the war almost certainly yes. - Are we all having fun hell yes - Do we want this war to end hell No - Who has killed the most ships each day well In BKG that prize goes to the agressors - Who has killed the most ships overall each day. I would personally say us. That is Arteggs views of what is going on enjoy
Omniwar	Posted - 2004.08.27 10:56:00 - [43] Just noticed this Quote: TMX TunDraGon PA's members are leaving the alliance it seems. Fear the m0o *Spawn of the Devil*
Omniwar	Posted - 2004.08.27 10:56:00 - [44] Just noticed this Quote: TMX TunDraGon PA's members are leaving the alliance it seems. Fear the m0o *Spawn of the Devil*
Artegg	Posted - 2004.08.27 10:58:00 - [45] Originally by: fugazii not tryin to start a flame or anything, but in the start of the war i was in cod and for the most part the entire cod fleet was lost within 3 weeks and losing thier stations frequently, leaving after a little over 3 wks i cant say what has happened post then but what happened then shouldnt jst be catagorized as jst "log on log off ect..." Nice to see a bit of honestly
Artegg	Posted - 2004.08.27 10:58:00 - [46] Originally by: fugazii not tryin to start a flame or anything, but in the start of the war i was in cod and for the most part the entire cod fleet was lost within 3 weeks and losing thier stations frequently, leaving after a little over 3 wks i cant say what has happened post then but what happened then shouldnt jst be catagorized as jst "log on log off ect..." Nice to see a bit of honestly
Propehcy	Posted - 2004.08.27 11:06:00 - [47] See, now Artegg here, Got a few things wrong IMO as well, but at least HE doesn't think he's being neutral. -Prophecy Ex-CA Rep and Ex-CA Member http://www.designegrafix.com/eve/prop5.jpg Props Chop Shop: Ships, Arms, and Armaments producer for Northern Eve! Located at Torrinos 5 - 6 - Home Guard Assembley. The Prop And Notferr Chronicles Notferr> Propehcy Owns me! Yet I feel so much Fear in his Evil Presence! Propehcy> Bow Down, You know who your Master is. Notferr> Only Prop is King!! Only Prop!! I Am nothing! Propehcy> I think Stav would be Proud. Propehcy> I Need a Tool... Where is that Notferr... [ 2004.09.11 28:63:98 ] Propehcy 2004.09.11 29:05:33.3 combat Your Miner II perfectly strikes Notferr, wrecking for WTFPWNAGE.
Propehcy	Posted - 2004.08.27 11:06:00 - [48] See, now Artegg here, Got a few things wrong IMO as well, but at least HE doesn't think he's being neutral. -Prophecy Ex-CA Rep and Ex-CA Member http://www.designegrafix.com/eve/prop5.jpg Props Chop Shop: Ships, Arms, and Armaments producer for Northern Eve! Located at Torrinos 5 - 6 - Home Guard Assembley. The Prop And Notferr Chronicles Notferr> Propehcy Owns me! Yet I feel so much Fear in his Evil Presence! Propehcy> Bow Down, You know who your Master is. Notferr> Only Prop is King!! Only Prop!! I Am nothing! Propehcy> I think Stav would be Proud. Propehcy> I Need a Tool... Where is that Notferr... [ 2004.09.11 28:63:98 ] Propehcy 2004.09.11 29:05:33.3 combat Your Miner II perfectly strikes Notferr, wrecking for WTFPWNAGE.
Artegg	Posted - 2004.08.27 11:08:00 - [49] Originally by: Omniwar Just noticed this Quote: TMX TunDraGon PA's members are leaving the alliance it seems. Fear the m0o TMX left because he wanted to become a pirate while it is a sad loss for the corp it has nothing to do with the war. also what you fail to add is the amount of new people we have had join
Artegg	Posted - 2004.08.27 11:08:00 - [50] Originally by: Omniwar Just noticed this Quote: TMX TunDraGon PA's members are leaving the alliance it seems. Fear the m0o TMX left because he wanted to become a pirate while it is a sad loss for the corp it has nothing to do with the war. also what you fail to add is the amount of new people we have had join

Artegg	Posted - 2004.08.27 11:13:00 - [51] Also i would like to add this little quote taken from JADE it is so nice to see that she thinks so highly of the pilots that are willing to stand up and fight m0o "The only future under Moo is dire slavery and fear; low scraping toil and bent-kneed grovelling submission to the foulest of bloat-ridden tyrants and twisted dictators. Enough! I call upon the best and bravest and strongest and truest warriors and starship captains of known space; The fight you have waited your lives to find is now! The test of your talents and faith is fast at hand!" Thank you for your time
Artegg	Posted - 2004.08.27 11:13:00 - [52] Also i would like to add this little quote taken from JADE it is so nice to see that she thinks so highly of the pilots that are willing to stand up and fight m0o "The only future under Moo is dire slavery and fear; low scraping toil and bent-kneed grovelling submission to the foulest of bloat-ridden tyrants and twisted dictators. Enough! I call upon the best and bravest and strongest and truest warriors and starship captains of known space; The fight you have waited your lives to find is now! The test of your talents and faith is fast at hand!" Thank you for your time
Omniwar	Posted - 2004.08.27 11:15:00 - [53] Originally by: Artegg Also i would like to add this little quote taken from JADE it is so nice to see that she thinks so highly of the pilots that are willing to stand up and fight m0o "The only future under Moo is dire slavery and fear; low scraping toil and bent-kneed grovelling submission to the foulest of bloat-ridden tyrants and twisted dictators. Enough! I call upon the best and bravest and strongest and truest warriors and starship captains of known space; The fight you have waited your lives to find is now! The test of your talents and faith is fast at hand!" Thank you for your time Bow before the m0o *Spawn of the Devil*
Omniwar	Posted - 2004.08.27 11:15:00 - [54] Originally by: Artegg Also i would like to add this little quote taken from JADE it is so nice to see that she thinks so highly of the pilots that are willing to stand up and fight m0o "The only future under Moo is dire slavery and fear; low scraping toil and bent-kneed grovelling submission to the foulest of bloat-ridden tyrants and twisted dictators. Enough! I call upon the best and bravest and strongest and truest warriors and starship captains of known space; The fight you have waited your lives to find is now! The test of your talents and faith is fast at hand!" Thank you for your time Bow before the m0o *Spawn of the Devil*
TMX	Posted - 2004.08.27 11:15:00 - [55] Edited by: TMX on 27/08/2004 11:18:21 Originally by: Omniwar Just noticed this Quote: TMX TunDraGon PA's members are leaving the alliance it seems. Fear the m0o Sure i leave r-k because they are @ war with m0o The only m0o i saw when numbers were even left in pods Rona-KIA is in war 99.9% of the time so its a bit hard not to leave in a war. Becomming a pirate has nothing to do with r-k and the PA its personal choice from me to experience something else in the game. ------------------------------------------- Live fast die young, clone and take revenge!
TMX	Posted - 2004.08.27 11:15:00 - [56] Edited by: TMX on 27/08/2004 11:18:21 Originally by: Omniwar Just noticed this Quote: TMX TunDraGon PA's members are leaving the alliance it seems. Fear the m0o Sure i leave r-k because they are @ war with m0o The only m0o i saw when numbers were even left in pods Rona-KIA is in war 99.9% of the time so its a bit hard not to leave in a war. Becomming a pirate has nothing to do with r-k and the PA its personal choice from me to experience something else in the game. ------------------------------------------- Live fast die young, clone and take revenge!
TWD	Posted - 2004.08.27 11:20:00 - [57] Edited by: TWD on 27/08/2004 11:33:51 Originally by: TMX Edited by: TMX on 27/08/2004 11:18:21 Originally by: Omniwar Just noticed this Quote: TMX TunDraGon PA's members are leaving the alliance it seems. Fear the m0o Sure i leave r-k because they are @ war with m0o The only m0o i saw when numbers were even left in pods Rona-KIA is in war 99.9% of the time so its a bit hard not to leave in a war. Becomming a pirate has nothing to do with r-k and the PA its personal choice from me to experience something else in the game. I still only see 2 m0o frigates on the Rona-KIA kill list ;\| (edit, and thats afaik our only losses to Rona-KIA)
TWD	Posted - 2004.08.27 11:20:00 - [58] Edited by: TWD on 27/08/2004 11:33:51 Originally by: TMX Edited by: TMX on 27/08/2004 11:18:21 Originally by: Omniwar Just noticed this Quote: TMX TunDraGon PA's members are leaving the alliance it seems. Fear the m0o Sure i leave r-k because they are @ war with m0o The only m0o i saw when numbers were even left in pods Rona-KIA is in war 99.9% of the time so its a bit hard not to leave in a war. Becomming a pirate has nothing to do with r-k and the PA its personal choice from me to experience something else in the game. I still only see 2 m0o frigates on the Rona-KIA kill list ;\| (edit, and thats afaik our only losses to Rona-KIA)
DB Preacher	Posted - 2004.08.27 11:24:00 - [59] Thanks for your views artegg. dbp Current RKK Ranking: (CAL4) Soldier Drop by and say hi in Reikoku Forums.
DB Preacher	Posted - 2004.08.27 11:24:00 - [60] Thanks for your views artegg. dbp Current RKK Ranking: (CAL4) Soldier Drop by and say hi in Reikoku Forums.



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