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Cardassius
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Posted - 2004.08.27 11:02:00 -
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Edited by: Cardassius on 27/08/2004 11:05:09 To the CFS and Eve Community:
At 23.00 hours Eve time on the 27th August 2004 (Tomorrow) Black Avatar will be at a state of war with Ascendancy Inc. [ASCI] for their continuous attempts to undermine Black Avatars position in Querious. ASCI has been give 24 hours to peacefully remove from the Querious Region.
Once tomorrows deadline has passed any member of ASCI sighted in Querious is to be considered Kill On Sight by Black Avatar.
This decision has not been taken lightly and is a direct result of ASCI's continuing inabilty to co-operate in the Querious region.
Yodaron Ballsithor
On behalf of Mardaniel Chrasson (Acting CEO)
If anyone has a question as to why this action is being taken, please download and unzip the following and listen carefully:
http://www.blackavatar.com/convos.zip
Black Avatar members will not be posting in response to any statement by ASCI regarding this matter. If there are any questions, please direct them in-game or by pm to myself, Mardaniel Chrasson, or any other officer of Black Avatar.
ASCI comment:
No comment as of yet. We are still wondering why they did it. And getting out within 23 hours..how?
ASCI Recruiting! |

Cardassius
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Posted - 2004.08.27 11:02:00 -
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Edited by: Cardassius on 27/08/2004 11:05:09 To the CFS and Eve Community:
At 23.00 hours Eve time on the 27th August 2004 (Tomorrow) Black Avatar will be at a state of war with Ascendancy Inc. [ASCI] for their continuous attempts to undermine Black Avatars position in Querious. ASCI has been give 24 hours to peacefully remove from the Querious Region.
Once tomorrows deadline has passed any member of ASCI sighted in Querious is to be considered Kill On Sight by Black Avatar.
This decision has not been taken lightly and is a direct result of ASCI's continuing inabilty to co-operate in the Querious region.
Yodaron Ballsithor
On behalf of Mardaniel Chrasson (Acting CEO)
If anyone has a question as to why this action is being taken, please download and unzip the following and listen carefully:
http://www.blackavatar.com/convos.zip
Black Avatar members will not be posting in response to any statement by ASCI regarding this matter. If there are any questions, please direct them in-game or by pm to myself, Mardaniel Chrasson, or any other officer of Black Avatar.
ASCI comment:
No comment as of yet. We are still wondering why they did it. And getting out within 23 hours..how?
ASCI Recruiting! |

Chowdown
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Posted - 2004.08.27 11:14:00 -
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This seems very strange to me. BA declare war on one of the few combat competent corps within CFS. I wonder if BA are getting a bit big for there boots. In the past it has only been with the help of Ascendancy that BA have been able to repel CA attacks. Does Stain intend too support this immoral act by BA. I say you give them hell Ascendancy your better player for player than them, I know I have fought you both.
New Shinra Kill system, please be patient were still ironing out the finer points!! |

Chowdown
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Posted - 2004.08.27 11:14:00 -
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This seems very strange to me. BA declare war on one of the few combat competent corps within CFS. I wonder if BA are getting a bit big for there boots. In the past it has only been with the help of Ascendancy that BA have been able to repel CA attacks. Does Stain intend too support this immoral act by BA. I say you give them hell Ascendancy your better player for player than them, I know I have fought you both.
New Shinra Kill system, please be patient were still ironing out the finer points!! |

Tholarim
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Posted - 2004.08.27 11:30:00 -
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hmmm BA/FA thinking their on top of the region again now CA left. So the locals will get bullied again. I have no doubt that ASCI can kick BA ass without probs. Maybe we'll come help you out 
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Tholarim
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Posted - 2004.08.27 11:30:00 -
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hmmm BA/FA thinking their on top of the region again now CA left. So the locals will get bullied again. I have no doubt that ASCI can kick BA ass without probs. Maybe we'll come help you out 
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Loka
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Posted - 2004.08.27 11:41:00 -
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It is sad seeing forces with common enemys fighting each other instead of the enemys. I have fought often side by side with ASCII and it was a pleasure and a honor each time.
Cardassius you remember the Apoc we traped together ^^ :), it was my first BS kill. _____________________________________ Dead or Alive
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Loka
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Posted - 2004.08.27 11:41:00 -
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It is sad seeing forces with common enemys fighting each other instead of the enemys. I have fought often side by side with ASCII and it was a pleasure and a honor each time.
Cardassius you remember the Apoc we traped together ^^ :), it was my first BS kill. _____________________________________ Dead or Alive
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MAXSuicide
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Posted - 2004.08.27 11:51:00 -
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my opinions r on cfs site..
My vids and random stuff |

MAXSuicide
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Posted - 2004.08.27 11:51:00 -
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my opinions r on cfs site..
My vids and random stuff |

AvanCade
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Posted - 2004.08.27 11:55:00 -
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Originally by: Chowdown This seems very strange to me. BA declare war on one of the few combat competent corps within CFS. I wonder if BA are getting a bit big for there boots. In the past it has only been with the help of Ascendancy that BA have been able to repel CA attacks. Does Stain intend too support this immoral act by BA. I say you give them hell Ascendancy your better player for player than them, I know I have fought you both.
I know what you mean, but to correct you, ASCI aint CFS member :). Merely "Defender of Querious" aka inhabitant :P
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AvanCade
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Posted - 2004.08.27 11:55:00 -
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Originally by: Chowdown This seems very strange to me. BA declare war on one of the few combat competent corps within CFS. I wonder if BA are getting a bit big for there boots. In the past it has only been with the help of Ascendancy that BA have been able to repel CA attacks. Does Stain intend too support this immoral act by BA. I say you give them hell Ascendancy your better player for player than them, I know I have fought you both.
I know what you mean, but to correct you, ASCI aint CFS member :). Merely "Defender of Querious" aka inhabitant :P
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CyberRaver
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Posted - 2004.08.27 12:04:00 -
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Before posting get the facts, ba are well within their right to kick a back stabbing treacherous corp outta the region.
Hopefully asci leave without incident, and maybe next time are more careful what they say on ts 
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CyberRaver
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Posted - 2004.08.27 12:04:00 -
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Before posting get the facts, ba are well within their right to kick a back stabbing treacherous corp outta the region.
Hopefully asci leave without incident, and maybe next time are more careful what they say on ts 
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Cardassius
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Posted - 2004.08.27 12:08:00 -
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Originally by: CyberRaver Before posting get the facts, ba are well within their right to kick a back stabbing treacherous corp outta the region.
Hopefully asci leave without incident, and maybe next time are more careful what they say on ts 
Which facts? Which plans? Discussing something isn't planning.
ASCI Recruiting! |

Cardassius
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Posted - 2004.08.27 12:08:00 -
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Originally by: CyberRaver Before posting get the facts, ba are well within their right to kick a back stabbing treacherous corp outta the region.
Hopefully asci leave without incident, and maybe next time are more careful what they say on ts 
Which facts? Which plans? Discussing something isn't planning.
ASCI Recruiting! |

benwallace
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Posted - 2004.08.27 12:09:00 -
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Yo don't leave the space tsya there you deserve to --------------------------
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benwallace
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Posted - 2004.08.27 12:09:00 -
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Yo don't leave the space tsya there you deserve to --------------------------
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CyberRaver
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Posted - 2004.08.27 12:10:00 -
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My dear Card, did i mention plans? Read my post 
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CyberRaver
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Posted - 2004.08.27 12:10:00 -
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My dear Card, did i mention plans? Read my post 
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Cardassius
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Posted - 2004.08.27 12:12:00 -
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Originally by: CyberRaver My dear Card, did i mention plans? Read my post 
I'm sorry but i know you were BA ;)
They are the ones backstabbing us not the other way around like they would love to tell the world.
ASCI Recruiting! |

Cardassius
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Posted - 2004.08.27 12:12:00 -
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Originally by: CyberRaver My dear Card, did i mention plans? Read my post 
I'm sorry but i know you were BA ;)
They are the ones backstabbing us not the other way around like they would love to tell the world.
ASCI Recruiting! |

AvanCade
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Posted - 2004.08.27 12:13:00 -
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Originally by: CyberRaver My dear Card, did i mention plans? Read my post 
obviously you dont have the facts either. Seeing your post 
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AvanCade
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Posted - 2004.08.27 12:13:00 -
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Originally by: CyberRaver My dear Card, did i mention plans? Read my post 
obviously you dont have the facts either. Seeing your post 
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Cardassius
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Posted - 2004.08.27 12:15:00 -
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Originally by: CyberRaver Thats the point card, I WAS ba i left cos i didnt like the corp, so my views are rather impartial.
Oh ;)
Why didn't you like BA?
ASCI Recruiting! |

Cardassius
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Posted - 2004.08.27 12:15:00 -
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Originally by: CyberRaver Thats the point card, I WAS ba i left cos i didnt like the corp, so my views are rather impartial.
Oh ;)
Why didn't you like BA?
ASCI Recruiting! |

CyberRaver
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Posted - 2004.08.27 12:15:00 -
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Thats the point card, I WAS ba i left cos i didnt like the corp, so my views are rather impartial.
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CyberRaver
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Posted - 2004.08.27 12:15:00 -
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Thats the point card, I WAS ba i left cos i didnt like the corp, so my views are rather impartial.
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CyberRaver
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Posted - 2004.08.27 12:18:00 -
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heh that dont matter now, back to the topic in hand
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CyberRaver
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Posted - 2004.08.27 12:18:00 -
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heh that dont matter now, back to the topic in hand
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CyberRaver
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Posted - 2004.08.27 12:22:00 -
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Edited by: CyberRaver on 27/08/2004 12:27:10 Just so peeps dont use above post as fame bait, i left cos i dont like mega corps, prefer small and close knit 
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CyberRaver
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Posted - 2004.08.27 12:22:00 -
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Edited by: CyberRaver on 27/08/2004 12:27:10 Just so peeps dont use above post as fame bait, i left cos i dont like mega corps, prefer small and close knit 
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Avernus
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Posted - 2004.08.27 12:35:00 -
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Originally by: CyberRaver Edited by: CyberRaver on 27/08/2004 12:27:10 Just so peeps dont use above post as fame bait, i left cos i dont like mega corps, prefer small and close knit 
Not a flame, but aren't MASS rather big?
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Avernus
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Posted - 2004.08.27 12:35:00 -
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Originally by: CyberRaver Edited by: CyberRaver on 27/08/2004 12:27:10 Just so peeps dont use above post as fame bait, i left cos i dont like mega corps, prefer small and close knit 
Not a flame, but aren't MASS rather big?
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CyberRaver
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Posted - 2004.08.27 12:52:00 -
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Nope
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CyberRaver
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Posted - 2004.08.27 12:52:00 -
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Nope
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HeadHunta II
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Posted - 2004.08.27 12:58:00 -
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*** My personal Statement ***
We helped BA to defend their station many times, we helped BA and other corps many times vs CA in A2, we helped CFS vs rats and i am here in querious now for 10 months... now where we/me complained (sometimes a bit rude maybe) about the lack of BA arround here (they have an unprotected station here, while most of BA are in FA or CA space and dont care about all the troubles in Querious) now u BA folks come along with 3 or 4 frigs presence in A2, making in "Defenders/owners of Querious" again, and tell us to leave???? Dudes, we did the most work in defending querious the last time. And about the station: We took it back from CA and we never took it from BA. Even if there where thoughts of doing that, but those were never done by our directors and nothing, again: NOTHING has been decided. Its a funny thing. A FA corp want to fight a neutral corp in CFS Area. Hmmm... And again the evil bastard HeadHunta (i am in ur eyes ) says: Thats my personal opinion. You want to know why i dont like BA? K, because there have been many times we i fought CA while u were sitting at safespots. I asked for help in local, no response. Lost 2 BS¦s vs CA that way.
And to the station issue i can again speak only for me (have to say that in every 2. sentence because BA might think i lead ASCI): CA wants no FA corps in Querious for known reasons. They attacked stations many times, we took it back. And as far as i know our BoD was in talks with u all time about the station in 3bk. My latest info was (before the war thingy): That BA wanted to give us the station. Now you declare war on us. Well, strange thing.
I am not afraid of BA who said: "We have some of the best pvp players arround EVE". Well, maybe CA saw em, i never did. If you want war, i am ok with it. But things could have been solved without war.
I appologize officially for some statements i made in different channels, may some have been a bit to rude. But i dont not appollogize for this one!
*** My personal Statement *** "Get in where u fit in!" "-V- Minister of foreign affairs" "CEO Ascendancy-Inc."
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HeadHunta II
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Posted - 2004.08.27 12:58:00 -
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*** My personal Statement ***
We helped BA to defend their station many times, we helped BA and other corps many times vs CA in A2, we helped CFS vs rats and i am here in querious now for 10 months... now where we/me complained (sometimes a bit rude maybe) about the lack of BA arround here (they have an unprotected station here, while most of BA are in FA or CA space and dont care about all the troubles in Querious) now u BA folks come along with 3 or 4 frigs presence in A2, making in "Defenders/owners of Querious" again, and tell us to leave???? Dudes, we did the most work in defending querious the last time. And about the station: We took it back from CA and we never took it from BA. Even if there where thoughts of doing that, but those were never done by our directors and nothing, again: NOTHING has been decided. Its a funny thing. A FA corp want to fight a neutral corp in CFS Area. Hmmm... And again the evil bastard HeadHunta (i am in ur eyes ) says: Thats my personal opinion. You want to know why i dont like BA? K, because there have been many times we i fought CA while u were sitting at safespots. I asked for help in local, no response. Lost 2 BS¦s vs CA that way.
And to the station issue i can again speak only for me (have to say that in every 2. sentence because BA might think i lead ASCI): CA wants no FA corps in Querious for known reasons. They attacked stations many times, we took it back. And as far as i know our BoD was in talks with u all time about the station in 3bk. My latest info was (before the war thingy): That BA wanted to give us the station. Now you declare war on us. Well, strange thing.
I am not afraid of BA who said: "We have some of the best pvp players arround EVE". Well, maybe CA saw em, i never did. If you want war, i am ok with it. But things could have been solved without war.
I appologize officially for some statements i made in different channels, may some have been a bit to rude. But i dont not appollogize for this one!
*** My personal Statement *** "Get in where u fit in!" "-V- Minister of foreign affairs" "CEO Ascendancy-Inc."
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MatStar
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Posted - 2004.08.27 13:11:00 -
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This in my personal opinion is bad for the whole of Querious Region. Im only a "residant" of Querious region, with asci gone will make the whole region alot harder to defend from the constant CA attacks and pirate incursions, though CA seems to have quieted down atm.
I do not want ASCI to leave, this helps no one but enemys of querious.......
All comments/views/text is Personal Opinion only.....
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MatStar
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Posted - 2004.08.27 13:11:00 -
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This in my personal opinion is bad for the whole of Querious Region. Im only a "residant" of Querious region, with asci gone will make the whole region alot harder to defend from the constant CA attacks and pirate incursions, though CA seems to have quieted down atm.
I do not want ASCI to leave, this helps no one but enemys of querious.......
All comments/views/text is Personal Opinion only.....
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Steel Optik
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Posted - 2004.08.27 13:58:00 -
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Edited by: Steel Optik on 27/08/2004 14:12:05 Edited by: Steel Optik on 27/08/2004 14:00:47 Hmm you guys when the push comes to the shove neither of you guys can defend a station they changed hands all the time when CA came why dont you just sort out 1 station each and put all your player owned structures around it I see refining structures & research I reckon the cloning faciliity might be the best station to have anyway but hell more pvp training for pilots cant be too bad a thing and war is always good for isk
Steel Optik manufacturer of State of the Art Weapons and Munitions at Gehi Station
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Steel Optik
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Posted - 2004.08.27 13:58:00 -
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Edited by: Steel Optik on 27/08/2004 14:12:05 Edited by: Steel Optik on 27/08/2004 14:00:47 Hmm you guys when the push comes to the shove neither of you guys can defend a station they changed hands all the time when CA came why dont you just sort out 1 station each and put all your player owned structures around it I see refining structures & research I reckon the cloning faciliity might be the best station to have anyway but hell more pvp training for pilots cant be too bad a thing and war is always good for isk
Steel Optik manufacturer of State of the Art Weapons and Munitions at Gehi Station
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Reverend Necrona
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Posted - 2004.08.27 14:26:00 -
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YAY MY NAMES IN THOSE RECORDINGS! :S
In regards to BA having some of the best pvp'ers in eve... please excuse me while i split my sides laughing.
Go get 'em ASCII Reverend Necrona |

Reverend Necrona
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Posted - 2004.08.27 14:26:00 -
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YAY MY NAMES IN THOSE RECORDINGS! :S
In regards to BA having some of the best pvp'ers in eve... please excuse me while i split my sides laughing.
Go get 'em ASCII Reverend Necrona |

ricko mortis
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Posted - 2004.08.27 15:30:00 -
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Edited by: ricko mortis on 27/08/2004 15:33:48
Originally by: Reverend Necrona YAY MY NAMES IN THOSE RECORDINGS! :S
In regards to BA having some of the best pvp'ers in eve... please excuse me while i split my sides laughing.
Go get 'em ASCII
Guess CA got a different set of recordings to everyone else, if not mistaken it is Asci saying they themselves have some of the best pvp'ers in eve. Either that or CA are just hard of hearing or thick or stupid or hell pick whichever suits best.
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ricko mortis
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Posted - 2004.08.27 15:30:00 -
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Edited by: ricko mortis on 27/08/2004 15:33:48
Originally by: Reverend Necrona YAY MY NAMES IN THOSE RECORDINGS! :S
In regards to BA having some of the best pvp'ers in eve... please excuse me while i split my sides laughing.
Go get 'em ASCII
Guess CA got a different set of recordings to everyone else, if not mistaken it is Asci saying they themselves have some of the best pvp'ers in eve. Either that or CA are just hard of hearing or thick or stupid or hell pick whichever suits best.
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Cardassius
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Posted - 2004.08.27 15:31:00 -
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Originally by: ricko mortis
Guess CA got a different set of recordings to everyone else, if not mistaken it is Asci saying they themselves have some of the best pvp'ers in eve.
lol ;) you say it, we don't ;)
ASCI Recruiting! |

Cardassius
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Posted - 2004.08.27 15:31:00 -
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Originally by: ricko mortis
Guess CA got a different set of recordings to everyone else, if not mistaken it is Asci saying they themselves have some of the best pvp'ers in eve.
lol ;) you say it, we don't ;)
ASCI Recruiting! |

Reverend Necrona
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Posted - 2004.08.27 16:16:00 -
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Originally by: ricko mortis Edited by: ricko mortis on 27/08/2004 15:33:48
Originally by: Reverend Necrona YAY MY NAMES IN THOSE RECORDINGS! :S
In regards to BA having some of the best pvp'ers in eve... please excuse me while i split my sides laughing.
Go get 'em ASCII
Guess CA got a different set of recordings to everyone else, if not mistaken it is Asci saying they themselves have some of the best pvp'ers in eve. Either that or CA are just hard of hearing or thick or stupid or hell pick whichever suits best.
No mate, BA saying it - or should i say an ASCI member saying that BA said it. Which is believable considering the fact that they were allies and as such would do a lot of talking. It's ok im not gonna lose any sleep if its true or not, i know how wanting BA are in the pvp department anyways.
I'm not thick though, it's all a trick! Reverend Necrona |

Reverend Necrona
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Posted - 2004.08.27 16:16:00 -
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Originally by: ricko mortis Edited by: ricko mortis on 27/08/2004 15:33:48
Originally by: Reverend Necrona YAY MY NAMES IN THOSE RECORDINGS! :S
In regards to BA having some of the best pvp'ers in eve... please excuse me while i split my sides laughing.
Go get 'em ASCII
Guess CA got a different set of recordings to everyone else, if not mistaken it is Asci saying they themselves have some of the best pvp'ers in eve. Either that or CA are just hard of hearing or thick or stupid or hell pick whichever suits best.
No mate, BA saying it - or should i say an ASCI member saying that BA said it. Which is believable considering the fact that they were allies and as such would do a lot of talking. It's ok im not gonna lose any sleep if its true or not, i know how wanting BA are in the pvp department anyways.
I'm not thick though, it's all a trick! Reverend Necrona |
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