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WarlockX Amarr Free Trade Corp	Posted - 2009.04.15 17:40:00 - [1] This is what I was looking at just now Linkage CCP gimme stars that take up the entire solar system!! ----------------------------------------------- Free Trade Corp - Flash page
Ruze Ahkor'Murkon Amarr No Applicable Corporation	Posted - 2009.04.15 17:55:00 - [2] Originally by: WarlockX This is what I was looking at just now Linkage CCP gimme stars that take up the entire solar system!! Perspective, and limited distances. You can't correctly judge the size of anything in space, because you have no center for that perspective. Your camera floating at some undetermined distance behind your ship can make what your next to small, or huge, whichever you pick. Originally by: 5pinDizzy Troll Score-o-Meter --------Failure----------\|\|\|-----------Succes------- 10-9-8-7-6-5-4-3-2-1--0--1-2-3-4-5-6-7-8-9-10
WarlockX Amarr Free Trade Corp	Posted - 2009.04.15 18:04:00 - [3] Originally by: Ruze Ahkor'Murkon Originally by: WarlockX This is what I was looking at just now Linkage CCP gimme stars that take up the entire solar system!! Perspective, and limited distances. You can't correctly judge the size of anything in space, because you have no center for that perspective. Your camera floating at some undetermined distance behind your ship can make what your next to small, or huge, whichever you pick. sure you can, because you have the distance to the object. And you know its size at that distance. ----------------------------------------------- Free Trade Corp - Flash page
Ruze Ahkor'Murkon Amarr No Applicable Corporation	Posted - 2009.04.15 18:09:00 - [4] Originally by: WarlockX Originally by: Ruze Ahkor'Murkon Originally by: WarlockX This is what I was looking at just now Linkage CCP gimme stars that take up the entire solar system!! Perspective, and limited distances. You can't correctly judge the size of anything in space, because you have no center for that perspective. Your camera floating at some undetermined distance behind your ship can make what your next to small, or huge, whichever you pick. sure you can, because you have the distance to the object. And you know its size at that distance. Really? What's the size of that planet? How far are you from that planet? When it says 0m, does that actually mean your 0m from the surface? From the atmosphere? Which atmosphere? How far does that 0m expand from the center of that star? Is it 0m at the maximum safe distance you can approach that star? Would that 0m radius around that star not be massively larger than that of a planet or moon? But because of the size difference, couldn't your 0m from that star and 0m from that moon create the illusion that the two bodies are relatively the same size, when in fact they are huge variations? Perspective. If 0m from a star is actually, say, a couple thousand kilometers from that star's crust in order to prevent the ship your in from being devoured, it would limit the apparent size of said star. If that 0m from the moon was only 100km from that planetoids crust, it would greatly increase the apparent size of said moon. When you approach both, however, your system says that you are 0m from that item. Still with me, or have I lost you? Originally by: 5pinDizzy Troll Score-o-Meter --------Failure----------\|\|\|-----------Succes------- 10-9-8-7-6-5-4-3-2-1--0--1-2-3-4-5-6-7-8-9-10
Nuuskur Amarr PIE Inc.	Posted - 2009.04.15 18:12:00 - [5] Oh they are there. It's just that the real giants most likely don't have any planetary systems and noone has bothered building stargates to those stars.
Sweaty Minge	Posted - 2009.04.15 18:15:00 - [6] Originally by: Ruze Ahkor'Murkon Originally by: WarlockX This is what I was looking at just now Linkage CCP gimme stars that take up the entire solar system!! Perspective, and limited distances. You can't correctly judge the size of anything in space, because you have no center for that perspective. Your camera floating at some undetermined distance behind your ship can make what your next to small, or huge, whichever you pick. Wow. Wow.
Ruze Ahkor'Murkon Amarr No Applicable Corporation	Posted - 2009.04.15 18:17:00 - [7] Originally by: Sweaty Minge Originally by: Ruze Ahkor'Murkon Originally by: WarlockX This is what I was looking at just now Linkage CCP gimme stars that take up the entire solar system!! Perspective, and limited distances. You can't correctly judge the size of anything in space, because you have no center for that perspective. Your camera floating at some undetermined distance behind your ship can make what your next to small, or huge, whichever you pick. Wow. Wow. Originally by: 5pinDizzy Troll Score-o-Meter --------Failure----------\|\|\|-----------Succes------- 10-9-8-7-6-5-4-3-2-1--0--1-2-3-4-5-6-7-8-9-10
WarlockX Amarr Free Trade Corp	Posted - 2009.04.15 18:20:00 - [8] Originally by: Ruze Ahkor'Murkon Originally by: WarlockX Originally by: Ruze Ahkor'Murkon Originally by: WarlockX This is what I was looking at just now Linkage CCP gimme stars that take up the entire solar system!! Perspective, and limited distances. You can't correctly judge the size of anything in space, because you have no center for that perspective. Your camera floating at some undetermined distance behind your ship can make what your next to small, or huge, whichever you pick. sure you can, because you have the distance to the object. And you know its size at that distance. Really? What's the size of that planet? How far are you from that planet? When it says 0m, does that actually mean your 0m from the surface? From the atmosphere? Which atmosphere? How far does that 0m expand from the center of that star? Is it 0m at the maximum safe distance you can approach that star? Would that 0m radius around that star not be massively larger than that of a planet or moon? But because of the size difference, couldn't your 0m from that star and 0m from that moon create the illusion that the two bodies are relatively the same size, when in fact they are huge variations? Perspective. If 0m from a star is actually, say, a couple thousand kilometers from that star's crust in order to prevent the ship your in from being devoured, it would limit the apparent size of said star. If that 0m from the moon was only 100km from that planetoids crust, it would greatly increase the apparent size of said moon. When you approach both, however, your system says that you are 0m from that item. Still with me, or have I lost you? How about using the nice handy solar system map. Seeing how a star that big would take up quite alot of space. 9.7692 AU to be exact. ----------------------------------------------- Free Trade Corp - Flash page
Ruze Ahkor'Murkon Amarr No Applicable Corporation	Posted - 2009.04.15 18:21:00 - [9] Originally by: WarlockX Originally by: Ruze Ahkor'Murkon Originally by: WarlockX Originally by: Ruze Ahkor'Murkon Perspective, and limited distances. You can't correctly judge the size of anything in space, because you have no center for that perspective. Your camera floating at some undetermined distance behind your ship can make what your next to small, or huge, whichever you pick. sure you can, because you have the distance to the object. And you know its size at that distance. Really? What's the size of that planet? How far are you from that planet? When it says 0m, does that actually mean your 0m from the surface? From the atmosphere? Which atmosphere? How far does that 0m expand from the center of that star? Is it 0m at the maximum safe distance you can approach that star? Would that 0m radius around that star not be massively larger than that of a planet or moon? But because of the size difference, couldn't your 0m from that star and 0m from that moon create the illusion that the two bodies are relatively the same size, when in fact they are huge variations? Perspective. If 0m from a star is actually, say, a couple thousand kilometers from that star's crust in order to prevent the ship your in from being devoured, it would limit the apparent size of said star. If that 0m from the moon was only 100km from that planetoids crust, it would greatly increase the apparent size of said moon. When you approach both, however, your system says that you are 0m from that item. Still with me, or have I lost you? How about using the nice handy solar system map. Seeing how a star that big would take up quite alot of space. 9.7692 AU to be exact. I wasn't aware the solar system map was graphically accurate. Hey, we learn something new every day, right? Originally by: 5pinDizzy Troll Score-o-Meter --------Failure----------\|\|\|-----------Succes------- 10-9-8-7-6-5-4-3-2-1--0--1-2-3-4-5-6-7-8-9-10
WarlockX Amarr Free Trade Corp	Posted - 2009.04.15 18:35:00 - [10] Originally by: Ruze Ahkor'Murkon I wasn't aware the solar system map was graphically accurate. Hey, we learn something new every day, right? I don't see how you could be so dense? Something with a 10 AU radius would take a lot longer to FLY PAST at warp speed don't you think!? No matter how the hell you pretend that you can set your point of reference from any distance. Because you can't pretend to set your speed to any speed you want. Therefor when flying in a freighter it would take damn near 20 seconds to go from one end of the star to the other, and not the <1 second fly by it takes now. ----------------------------------------------- Free Trade Corp - Flash page
Ruze Ahkor'Murkon Amarr No Applicable Corporation	Posted - 2009.04.15 18:47:00 - [11] Originally by: WarlockX Originally by: Ruze Ahkor'Murkon I wasn't aware the solar system map was graphically accurate. Hey, we learn something new every day, right? I don't see how you could be so dense? Something with a 10 AU radius would take a lot longer to FLY PAST at warp speed don't you think!? No matter how the hell you pretend that you can set your point of reference from any distance. Because you can't pretend to set your speed to any speed you want. Therefor when flying in a freighter it would take damn near 20 seconds to go from one end of the star to the other, and not the <1 second fly by it takes now. You're awfully angry Course, just checking the star in a little system in Heimatar, it's only 765,000km in radius. Might explain why it's quicker to go by ... Originally by: 5pinDizzy Troll Score-o-Meter --------Failure----------\|\|\|-----------Succes------- 10-9-8-7-6-5-4-3-2-1--0--1-2-3-4-5-6-7-8-9-10
Argus Cutler	Posted - 2009.04.15 18:58:00 - [12] Remember guys, its just a game.
Abrazzar	Posted - 2009.04.15 19:06:00 - [13] Originally by: Argus Cutler Remember guys, its just a game. So what? Doesn't mean it can't have some realism. -------- Ideas for: Mining
Catherine Frasier	Posted - 2009.04.15 19:08:00 - [14] Originally by: Ruze Ahkor'Murkon Perspective, and limited distances. You can't correctly judge the size of anything in space, because you have no center for that perspective. Your camera floating at some undetermined distance behind your ship can make what your next to small, or huge, whichever you pick. You know you're a fanboi when you find yourself arguing that Eve is astronomically accurate in any way shape or form.
Ruze Ahkor'Murkon Amarr No Applicable Corporation	Posted - 2009.04.15 19:11:00 - [15] Originally by: Catherine Frasier Originally by: Ruze Ahkor'Murkon Perspective, and limited distances. You can't correctly judge the size of anything in space, because you have no center for that perspective. Your camera floating at some undetermined distance behind your ship can make what your next to small, or huge, whichever you pick. You know you're a fanboi when you find yourself arguing that Eve is astronomically accurate in any way shape or form. Heheheh ... or your just in a 'devils advocate' mood and are jumping in damn near any argument you can find, That being said, it's never cool to support the establishment. That's why 'fanboi' is such a great term! You can be cool by going against the man, AND use a fun leet term to destroy your opponents argument, all at once! Gotta love forums. Originally by: 5pinDizzy Troll Score-o-Meter --------Failure----------\|\|\|-----------Succes------- 10-9-8-7-6-5-4-3-2-1--0--1-2-3-4-5-6-7-8-9-10
Gebher'el Amarr Ministry of War	Posted - 2009.04.15 19:23:00 - [16] To quote a great book.. "Space is really, really big." Rejoice not against me, O mine enemy: when I fall, I shall arise; when I sit in darkness, God will be a light unto me.
Krennel Darius Caldari New Age Solutions	Posted - 2009.04.15 19:32:00 - [17] It doesn't really matter if or how they measure distance of stars in this galaxy, we're talking about implementing it in a fake universe. And it does stand to reason that some stars would be insanely bigger than others, because having them all roughly the same size would be an odd occurrence. _________________________________________________ If at first you don't succeed, you're not Chuck Norris
Santiago Fahahrri Galactic Geographic	Posted - 2009.04.15 19:34:00 - [18] I'm currently in a "deadly unknown" system that has a Red Giant star anomaly... the thing is above the "normal" solar system (which has it's own little orange star). From any spot in the system you can see this massive red star looming over everything. ~ Santiago Fahahrri Galactic Geographic
Tippia Raddick Explorations BlackWater.	Posted - 2009.04.15 19:47:00 - [19] More importantly, VY Canis Majors really needs to stop hogging all that space! ——— “If you're not willing to fight for what you have in =v=… you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.” — Karath Piki
Onus Mian Amarr Imperial Academy	Posted - 2009.04.15 20:14:00 - [20] Nothing like the stars to show just how insignificant humans really are. ---- Isn't it enough to see that a garden is beautiful without having to believe that there are fairies at the bottom of it too? - Douglas Adams
Xen Gin Solar Excavations Ultd. Black Sun Alliance	Posted - 2009.04.15 20:41:00 - [21] Originally by: WarlockX This is what I was looking at just now Linkage CCP gimme stars that take up the entire solar system!! This is sooooo much better!
WarlockX Amarr Free Trade Corp	Posted - 2009.04.15 22:23:00 - [22] Originally by: Santiago Fahahrri I'm currently in a "deadly unknown" system that has a Red Giant star anomaly... the thing is above the "normal" solar system (which has it's own little orange star). From any spot in the system you can see this massive red star looming over everything. for god shakes man pics?!!? ----------------------------------------------- Free Trade Corp - Flash page
Corr Armageddon Amarr	Posted - 2009.04.15 23:10:00 - [23] Originally by: Onus Mian Nothing like the stars to show just how insignificant humans really are. God damn stars... fist shake
Gambit Stryder The Accursed	Posted - 2009.04.15 23:22:00 - [24] Originally by: Santiago Fahahrri I'm currently in a "deadly unknown" system that has a Red Giant star anomaly... the thing is above the "normal" solar system (which has it's own little orange star). From any spot in the system you can see this massive red star looming over everything. Pics or it didn't happen.
Yelan Zhou Amarr PIE Inc.	Posted - 2009.04.16 01:08:00 - [25] Originally by: Onus Mian Nothing like the stars to show just how insignificant humans really are. Why ? Stars are a BIG reaction. But only because they are big it does not make us insignificant. I and you too can do millions of more things than a star and we are way more complex structures also.They are impressive but our mind and complex bodys are wonders too.
Meeogi Amarr Lone Star Privateers Privateer Alliance	Posted - 2009.04.16 01:20:00 - [26] The OP...Makes a good point...and it is funny..as I was thinking the same thing earlier. I HIGHLY recommend downloading Celestia ..Its a free living planetarium....you can zoom through the known universe ...and even skip from galaxy to galaxy.... What you quickly find out is that many of the stars are over 20au across....some 3 times that size. I agree....it would be cool to jump into a system with a massive blue giant that takes up 90% of the system....we only play in about .05% of any given system anyways. /signed
mechtech Entropy Industries	Posted - 2009.04.16 01:24:00 - [27] The problem is simple, celestial objects are laughably tiny, moons are hardly bigger than a POS bubble (really, not kidding you). I hope CCP introduces celestial objects orders of magnitude bigger than they are now with the next expansion, a simple re-texturing job is simply not enough to catch the graphics of eve up with the new Space MMOs that are on the horizon.
Eve Spair Caldari Ronin Interstellar Industries	Posted - 2009.04.16 06:31:00 - [28] http://www.nikon.com/about/feelnikon/universcale/index.htm now go and feel insignificant.
Ruze Ahkor'Murkon Amarr No Applicable Corporation	Posted - 2009.04.16 06:35:00 - [29] Originally by: mechtech The problem is simple, celestial objects are laughably tiny, moons are hardly bigger than a POS bubble (really, not kidding you). I hope CCP introduces celestial objects orders of magnitude bigger than they are now with the next expansion, a simple re-texturing job is simply not enough to catch the graphics of eve up with the new Space MMOs that are on the horizon. I'd also like to be able to see at least a few of a planets moons when I get to their orbit. I know not all moons are like ours on Earth, but it would be awfully nice to have a few like that. Sometimes you can see a planet from a moon, especially if it's a gas giant. But I haven't once had a moon show up while I was near a planet. Originally by: 5pinDizzy Troll Score-o-Meter --------Failure----------\|\|\|-----------Succes------- 10-9-8-7-6-5-4-3-2-1--0--1-2-3-4-5-6-7-8-9-10
Tamahra 24th Imperial Crusade	Posted - 2009.04.16 06:49:00 - [30] Edited by: Tamahra on 16/04/2009 06:49:52 Originally by: Meeogi I agree....it would be cool to jump into a system with a massive blue giant that takes up 90% of the system....we only play in about .05% of any given system anyways. /signed double-fail First off, a star could never make up 90% of a solar-system in eve, no star-ship could even exist in such close proximity to a giant-sun. and secondly, we are not playing in about .05% of any given system. its rather 0.000000000000001% of any given system (i randomly put those zeros in, but they must be alot of them, since youd need quite a bunch of years in real-time to cross a solar-system in eve if you did it by manually flying, even if you did it in a speed-pimped interceptor)

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