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Xahara
StarFleet Enterprises
StarFleet Federation
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Posted - 2009.04.16 19:08:00 -
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I think the title says it all. Why not give us a bigger character limit for us to write our biographies? Let us fill our bios with more meaningless and fun stuff :D
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Khorum
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Posted - 2009.04.16 19:12:00 -
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Edited by: Khorum on 16/04/2009 19:12:48
hell yeah i got half a pic in my bio need more space :P
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Xahara
StarFleet Enterprises
StarFleet Federation
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Posted - 2009.04.16 19:14:00 -
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I support this :)
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Santiago Fahahrri
Galactic Geographic
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Posted - 2009.04.16 20:53:00 -
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It's a small request but worthy.
~ Santiago Fahahrri
Galactic Geographic |
Darwin's Market
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Posted - 2009.04.16 21:06:00 -
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I would also be nice if the game saved the last tab opened in the window even after client restarts.
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Herschel Yamamoto
Bloodmoney Incorporated
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Posted - 2009.04.16 21:25:00 -
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This has been raised before. CCP won't do it, because there is apparently exploit possibilities with a longer bio. This statement utterly blows my mind, but it's the official stance. Also, they're overhauling that whole side of the game fairly soon anyways - bio, mail, all that stuff. I hope it's soon.
But yeah - everyone wants to do this, but it seems it can't be done.
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Drake Draconis
Minmatar
Shadow Cadre
Worlds End Consortium
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Posted - 2009.04.16 22:43:00 -
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 Originally by: Herschel Yamamoto
This has been raised before. CCP won't do it, because there is apparently exploit possibilities with a longer bio. This statement utterly blows my mind, but it's the official stance. Also, they're overhauling that whole side of the game fairly soon anyways - bio, mail, all that stuff. I hope it's soon.
But yeah - everyone wants to do this, but it seems it can't be done.
Think in terms of a forum post herschel.
bios allow for various tags and other aspects that could be abused.
The more chars you allow the more code you can shove into that window.
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Herschel Yamamoto
Bloodmoney Incorporated
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Posted - 2009.04.17 00:47:00 -
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Originally by: Drake Draconis
Think in terms of a forum post herschel.
bios allow for various tags and other aspects that could be abused.
The more chars you allow the more code you can shove into that window.
Oh, I can think of a million ways to make a bio obnoxious, and twice as many on how to make it obscene. But an exploit? Like, an actual "the game is no longer functioning properly" exploit? That just seems bizarre.
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Ankhesentapemkah
Gallente
State Protectorate
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Posted - 2009.04.17 14:15:00 -
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Originally by: Herschel Yamamoto
Originally by: Drake Draconis
Think in terms of a forum post herschel.
bios allow for various tags and other aspects that could be abused.
The more chars you allow the more code you can shove into that window.
Oh, I can think of a million ways to make a bio obnoxious, and twice as many on how to make it obscene. But an exploit? Like, an actual "the game is no longer functioning properly" exploit? That just seems bizarre.
Yeah it puzzles me too, in the conversation I tried to pry details loose, but all I hit was a big wall with "We don't discuss exploits" and a blank expression. 
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De'Veldrin
Minmatar
Special Projects Executive
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Posted - 2009.04.17 17:53:00 -
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Originally by: Ankhesentapemkah
Originally by: Herschel Yamamoto
Originally by: Drake Draconis
Think in terms of a forum post herschel.
bios allow for various tags and other aspects that could be abused.
The more chars you allow the more code you can shove into that window.
Oh, I can think of a million ways to make a bio obnoxious, and twice as many on how to make it obscene. But an exploit? Like, an actual "the game is no longer functioning properly" exploit? That just seems bizarre.
Yeah it puzzles me too, in the conversation I tried to pry details loose, but all I hit was a big wall with "We don't discuss exploits" and a blank expression.
This is the old "isolate your system from your text values" problem which is best summed up as follows.
A young man is enrolled in school by his parents. Once his enrollment is complete and his application submitted to the database, the database suddenly ceases to function. Upon checking, the DBA finds that the database no longer exists.
The root cause:
Through some fluke of parental geekiness, the young man's name was "DROP DATABASE;"-*
The point to all of this being, if it's true that you can input text into the Bio that can result in a game exploit, then there is an underlying design issue that needs to be addressed, regardless of whether they make the field length longer or not.
*-Disclaimer. Of course this never really happened. it's an example from a class I took about the dangers of not properly isolating your system from the data it stores.
--Vel
Originally by: Liang Nuren
10 shots really makes me a sad panda
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Drake Draconis
Minmatar
Shadow Cadre
Worlds End Consortium
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Posted - 2009.04.17 19:01:00 -
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It's strange.... but it's no more strange that someone making a forum post that breaks the tables.
Same idea... different method.
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Herschel Yamamoto
Bloodmoney Incorporated
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Posted - 2009.04.17 20:32:00 -
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Edited by: Herschel Yamamoto on 17/04/2009 20:32:52
Originally by: De'Veldrin
This is the old "isolate your system from your text values" problem which is best summed up as follows.
A young man is enrolled in school by his parents. Once his enrollment is complete and his application submitted to the database, the database suddenly ceases to function. Upon checking, the DBA finds that the database no longer exists.
The root cause:
Through some fluke of parental geekiness, the young man's name was "DROP DATABASE;"-*
The point to all of this being, if it's true that you can input text into the Bio that can result in a game exploit, then there is an underlying design issue that needs to be addressed, regardless of whether they make the field length longer or not.
*-Disclaimer. Of course this never really happened. it's an example from a class I took about the dangers of not properly isolating your system from the data it stores.
Jokes aside, there has to be a better way of fixing this than to neuter player bios. I really hope the replacement system gets made soon...
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Drake Draconis
Minmatar
Shadow Cadre
Worlds End Consortium
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Posted - 2009.04.17 20:45:00 -
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Hilarious strip!
But yes... sanitary Bios are the way to go.
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Kaidem
Minmatar
Black Rebellion
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Posted - 2009.04.17 21:47:00 -
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I think some bio's could "lag" people who were looking at them, so CCP fixed this by reducing the character limit.
If you can't fit into a bio what you want to say about your character / corp then post stuff on a website and link the site to your bio. Even better linky it to a soite that is in-game compatible.
If CCP didn't feelit necessary to reduce the character limit in bio's, they wouldnt have done it.
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Kiara Nerora
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Posted - 2009.04.20 02:07:00 -
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Tyrenical
Caldari Provisions
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Posted - 2009.04.20 11:55:00 -
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Edited by: Tyrenical on 20/04/2009 11:58:41
Edited by: Tyrenical on 20/04/2009 11:55:35
I'd love to add more Historical Quotes to my Bio 
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Efrim Black
Aliastra
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Posted - 2009.04.20 12:40:00 -
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Originally by: Kaidem
I think some bio's could "lag" people who were looking at them, so CCP fixed this by reducing the character limit.
If you can't fit into a bio what you want to say about your character / corp then post stuff on a website and link the site to your bio. Even better linky it to a soite that is in-game compatible.
If CCP didn't feelit necessary to reduce the character limit in bio's, they wouldnt have done it.
I disagree with the programming angle. This guy summed it up. CCP limited the character limit because some people would experience lag if opening a bio that was 50,000 characters long.
This problem is simply. Triple the current limit, and have a warning pop up for character bios longer than the current length. i.e. (Warning this character's bio is another x characters long, and could cause lag upon opening, proceed? {show this warning again, yes, no})
The idea of limiting what little expression there is in the game is silly. Supported.
Also, seriously, if their database was so intrinsically connected to it's own data, the Goons would have shut the game down by now.
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Herschel Yamamoto
Bloodmoney Incorporated
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Posted - 2009.04.20 16:57:00 -
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Originally by: Efrim Black
Originally by: Kaidem
I think some bio's could "lag" people who were looking at them, so CCP fixed this by reducing the character limit.
If you can't fit into a bio what you want to say about your character / corp then post stuff on a website and link the site to your bio. Even better linky it to a soite that is in-game compatible.
If CCP didn't feelit necessary to reduce the character limit in bio's, they wouldnt have done it.
I disagree with the programming angle. This guy summed it up. CCP limited the character limit because some people would experience lag if opening a bio that was 50,000 characters long.
This problem is simply. Triple the current limit, and have a warning pop up for character bios longer than the current length. i.e. (Warning this character's bio is another x characters long, and could cause lag upon opening, proceed? {show this warning again, yes, no})
The idea of limiting what little expression there is in the game is silly. Supported.
Also, seriously, if their database was so intrinsically connected to it's own data, the Goons would have shut the game down by now.
If throwing around simple undirected lag was an exploit, they would have nerfed Hardin's corp history years ago(seriously, try loading it, maybe go cook yourself dinner while you wait). The old bio had a character length cap too, and it wasn't an extraordinarily long one - not much longer than a forum post, IIRC. I can't imagine this was a reaction to lag issues.
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Che Biko
Polytechnique Gallenteenne
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Posted - 2009.04.21 09:56:00 -
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If CCP can not tell me why it shouldn't be longer, I can only support this, for I see no reason not to.
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Ankhesentapemkah
Gallente
Aliastra
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Posted - 2009.04.21 11:35:00 -
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Originally by: Herschel Yamamoto
If throwing around simple undirected lag was an exploit, they would have nerfed Hardin's corp history years ago(seriously, try loading it, maybe go cook yourself dinner while you wait). The old bio had a character length cap too, and it wasn't an extraordinarily long one - not much longer than a forum post, IIRC. I can't imagine this was a reaction to lag issues.
*imagines having a decorations page that lags everyone out* 
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De'Veldrin
Minmatar
Special Projects Executive
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Posted - 2009.04.21 16:32:00 -
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Originally by: Herschel Yamamoto
If throwing around simple undirected lag was an exploit, they would have nerfed Hardin's corp history years ago(seriously, try loading it, maybe go cook yourself dinner while you wait). The old bio had a character length cap too, and it wasn't an extraordinarily long one - not much longer than a forum post, IIRC. I can't imagine this was a reaction to lag issues.
If lag was an exploit, they would have nerfed Jita by now.
--Vel
Originally by: Liang Nuren
10 shots really makes me a sad panda
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