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Scyala	Posted - 2009.04.17 05:16:00 - [31] Originally by: SateenAntilles People that say the new range is 120km'ish are wrong or just plain lying. T2 ECM modules went from 54km optimal to 32km optimal. That combined with the complete loss of the optimal bonus on the ship means my optimal went from 220km to 66km + 49km falloff Them big fat liers, saying it's 120km when clearly it's only 115km
Space Pinata Amarr Discount Napkin Industries	Posted - 2009.04.17 05:16:00 - [32] Oh god, we have to decide between more tank or more EWar... It's almost like we're no longer given a free advantage over all the other recons...
Phantom Slave JUDGE DREAD Inc.	Posted - 2009.04.17 06:21:00 - [33] Originally by: SateenAntilles Edited by: SateenAntilles on 17/04/2009 03:08:54 People that say the new range is 120km'ish are wrong or just plain lying. T2 ECM modules went from 54km optimal to 32km optimal. That combined with the complete loss of the optimal bonus on the ship means my optimal went from 220km to 66km + 49km falloff With 2 SDA II's, 2 optimal rigs & Long Distance Jamming 5. Because they dropped the strength bonus on the SDA II's from 20% to 10% my strength didn't change was 12 before with racials, it is 12 now. If this ship is supposed to operate in the danger zone then we need a tank. So you say well fit some shield extenders in those mids and use that extra turret slot. I say great, how about giving me a little more grid. The didn't bump the grid. The grid on the Falcon (700) is the worse of all the force recons (Pilgrim 950, Rapier 750, Arazu 750). The Falcon has the worst starting by far. The Falcon is also the only ship with a 0% hole in the resists. Neither of the armor tankers have 0% holes and the rapier has a very nice spread of shield resistances against all damage types. All the other force recons have ships have at least 40m3 for drone space. The pilgrim has 150m3. What is wrong with giving caldari 25m3? Really if CCP wanted to reduce the number of people flying falcons their best bet would have been to give caldari another good ship to fly. People were flying falcons because it was one of the two caldari ships that didn't suck after the missile nerf. I see. So the fact that 1 on 1 a falcon can completely 100% mitigate all incoming damage means that it needs more tank? Pilgrims should totally be able to stop missile damage too, but you don't see those pilots whining. They just pick their fights. You no longer get to sit out of range of everybody and be useful, now you get to be up close with the rest of the recons and get primaried just like they get to.
Haramir Haleths	Posted - 2009.04.17 07:19:00 - [34] Heh ? Im Caldari. Wich is the second ship that do not suck. Please help me out
Karlemgne Tides Of War	Posted - 2009.04.17 07:38:00 - [35] Cry me a river, you're broken fom ECM got a little less broken. Your tears are sweet. It does suck that it takes me 2 minutes to load a system. My sig don't fracking work.
Reven Cordelle Caldari Yamainu-Mirai Heavy Industries	Posted - 2009.04.17 08:07:00 - [36] Adapt, Die. Etcetc. Hell even if you adapt you'll still die. No solopwnmobiles for anyone! Except maybe the Tengu in certain fits.
Esmenet Gallente	Posted - 2009.04.17 09:30:00 - [37] Originally by: Reven Cordelle Adapt, Die. Etcetc. Hell even if you adapt you'll still die. No solopwnmobiles for anyone! Except maybe the Tengu in certain fits. Lol the new caldari recons are much more of a solopwnmobile than they ever were with this change. Its in fleet combat they are now useless. And yea this is my sig. Real PVP'ers only use f1.
Malcanis Vanishing Point. The Initiative.	Posted - 2009.04.17 09:47:00 - [38] Originally by: Esmenet Originally by: Reven Cordelle Adapt, Die. Etcetc. Hell even if you adapt you'll still die. No solopwnmobiles for anyone! Except maybe the Tengu in certain fits. Lol the new caldari recons are much more of a solopwnmobile than they ever were with this change. Its in fleet combat they are now useless. Yeah, the new Rook looks great tbh. Cerb-class DPS (with pretty good range), including a drone bay to kill pesky tacklers, 8 midslots, so much targetting range they're virtually undampable, so much sensor strength they're a pain to jam, obviously not bothered about tracking disruptors, capless weapons, good scan res. It's the ship Caldari PvP pilots have been dreaming of. Oh yeah and it can do ECM pretty well too.
NeoTheo Dark Materials Heretic Nation	Posted - 2009.04.17 09:48:00 - [39] people complaining are ******ed, HAVE YOU ANY IDEA how good a ship this is now? ;) Dark Materials
Malcanis Vanishing Point. The Initiative.	Posted - 2009.04.17 09:49:00 - [40] Originally by: NeoTheo people complaining are ******ed, HAVE YOU ANY IDEA how good a ship this is now? ;) OH GOD NO PLEASE DONT MAKE ME COPE WITH CHANGE IT BURNS IT BURNSSSSSS USSSSS!
Logma Ran	Posted - 2009.04.17 09:54:00 - [41] Originally by: Bigeasy ... jam 4 out of the 5 enemy gang, before number 5 one shots me. Epic fail ccp. AHAHAHA gotcha! Good... go back to your cave now :)
Derus Grobb Selectus Pravus Lupus	Posted - 2009.04.17 11:40:00 - [42] Those poor, poor falcon pilots :) ---
Cyonidicus	Posted - 2009.04.17 11:49:00 - [43] Everybody smell that? OP got served
Cyonidicus	Posted - 2009.04.17 11:50:00 - [44] Everybody smell that? OP got served
Georgina Eldridge	Posted - 2009.04.17 12:23:00 - [45] YOUR BITTER TEARS AROUSE AND EXCITE ME IN WAYS I CANNOT BEGIN TO COMPREHEND.
Speaker Dead	Posted - 2009.04.17 20:51:00 - [46] Was it overpowered? Yes? Was it overnerfed? Yes. Anything would have made more sense than 2 light drones. A boost to the shields maybe? Right now it can be alphed the second you miss a jam. Are the 2 light drones supposed to stop the swarm of ogre 2's that will insta-pop you when you attempt to jam a rr domi? At least other recons can use a couple slots for tank. Falcons have no choice but to fit a minimum of 4 racials to be effective at all. Adapt? Certainly, not like players have slot of choice. But like everyone else on the forums I think we have just as much right to complain as all the whiners that didn't already adapt to the falcons. There were already plenty of effective ways to deal with falcons, but too many people simply couldn't adjust.
Dez Affinity Evocati.	Posted - 2009.04.17 21:09:00 - [47] Originally by: Phantom Slave Edited by: Phantom Slave on 17/04/2009 06:29:20 I see. So the fact that 1 on 1 a falcon can completely 100% mitigate all incoming damage means that it needs more tank? Pilgrims should totally be able to stop missile damage too, but you don't see those pilots whining. They just pick their fights. You no longer get to sit out of range of everybody and be useful, now you get to be up close with the rest of the recons and get primaried just like they get to. EDIT With all lvl 5 skills that has 23k EHP, 4k more than a standard 800mm plated Pilgrim setup. 419/875 PG used, 441/625 CPU used. [Falcon, tank] Signal Distortion Amplifier II Signal Distortion Amplifier II Signal Distortion Amplifier II Large Shield Extender II Large Shield Extender II Invulnerability Field II 10MN MicroWarpdrive II ECM - Multispectral Jammer II ECM - Multispectral Jammer II ECM - Multispectral Jammer II [empty high slot] [empty high slot] [empty high slot] [empty high slot] [empty rig slot] [empty rig slot] Multispecs, you are so cute. Tickle Tickle _______________
Lone Gunman Forhotea Corporation	Posted - 2009.04.17 21:58:00 - [48] Originally by: Malcanis Yeah, the new Rook looks great tbh. Cerb-class DPS (with pretty good range), including a drone bay to kill pesky tacklers, 8 midslots, so much targetting range they're virtually undampable, so much sensor strength they're a pain to jam, obviously not bothered about tracking disruptors, capless weapons, good scan res. It's the ship Caldari PvP pilots have been dreaming of. Oh yeah and it can do ECM pretty well too. WTB Rook with 8 Mid-slots I don't fly Falcons I build them but look everybody knew that the Falcon was overpowered. The problem is CCP took a sledghammer to the Falcon rather than a chisle. The solution EVERYONE agreed was to nerf the range 1/3, increase the effectivness of ECCM, fix FOF missles so they don't target asteroids as a counter and give the SDA a 20% script for either strength and or range. Also the Falcon had a 25M3 drone bay on SiSi 2 days before the patch then they changed it to 10M3 for release
Speaker Dead	Posted - 2009.04.18 17:05:00 - [49] Originally by: Phantom Slave Edited by: Phantom Slave on 17/04/2009 06:29:20 Originally by: SateenAntilles Edited by: SateenAntilles on 17/04/2009 03:08:54 SNIP I see. So the fact that 1 on 1 a falcon can completely 100% mitigate all incoming damage means that it needs more tank? Pilgrims should totally be able to stop missile damage too, but you don't see those pilots whining. They just pick their fights. You no longer get to sit out of range of everybody and be useful, now you get to be up close with the rest of the recons and get primaried just like they get to. EDIT With all lvl 5 skills that has 23k EHP, 4k more than a standard 800mm plated Pilgrim setup. 419/875 PG used, 441/625 CPU used. [Falcon, tank] Signal Distortion Amplifier II Signal Distortion Amplifier II Signal Distortion Amplifier II Large Shield Extender II Large Shield Extender II Invulnerability Field II 10MN MicroWarpdrive II ECM - Multispectral Jammer II ECM - Multispectral Jammer II ECM - Multispectral Jammer II [empty high slot] [empty high slot] [empty high slot] [empty high slot] [empty rig slot] [empty rig slot] Grats on the most fail Falcon fit ever, No Cloak, no sensor booster, Multi specs, you wont even make it to the battle.... If your going to argue a point, you might want to actually try the falcon, clearly you've never flown one.
sakana North Eastern Swat Pandemic Legion	Posted - 2009.04.18 17:17:00 - [50] OP is obvious troll.
ZenSun Total Mayhem.	Posted - 2009.04.18 17:21:00 - [51] You're tears taste strange.... Anyway, ECM was the most irritating anti-fun module invented in eve, Thankyou CCP :) But really.. was ECM that fun? Please resize sig to a file size no greater than 24000 bytes - Mitnal
Tractormech Caldari Fortune's Fools Sherwood Forest	Posted - 2009.04.18 17:26:00 - [52] I would say falcons got a boost. They were the only recon where solo work was completely unfeasable. This is no longer true.
Irida Mershkov Gallente War is Bliss	Posted - 2009.04.18 18:08:00 - [53] Originally by: Malcanis Originally by: Esmenet Originally by: Reven Cordelle Adapt, Die. Etcetc. Hell even if you adapt you'll still die. No solopwnmobiles for anyone! Except maybe the Tengu in certain fits. Lol the new caldari recons are much more of a solopwnmobile than they ever were with this change. Its in fleet combat they are now useless. Yeah, the new Rook looks great tbh. Cerb-class DPS (with pretty good range), including a drone bay to kill pesky tacklers, 8 midslots, so much targetting range they're virtually undampable, so much sensor strength they're a pain to jam, obviously not bothered about tracking disruptors, capless weapons, good scan res. It's the ship Caldari PvP pilots have been dreaming of. Oh yeah and it can do ECM pretty well too. TIME TO NERF IT INTO THE GROUND COMRADES. Seriously, the new Rook just slightly uber.
bitters much Nekkid Inc.	Posted - 2009.04.18 18:36:00 - [54] Originally by: sakana OP is obvious troll. No, he is part of that long blue list when you check your Alliance standings
Mazaron Fallen Angel's Blade.	Posted - 2009.04.18 18:41:00 - [55] Originally by: Bigeasy and range was our one and only real defense Yes, because that full mid rack of ECM doesn't count as defense, right guys? RIGHT?
Feilamya Minmatar	Posted - 2009.04.18 20:22:00 - [56] Originally by: Kobushi sssooooooo.... the typical response to the pre-patch falcon while was adapt or die, now that the table was turned on you and you get a taste or darwinism you are not so almighty with the adapt motto... It's actually "adapt or cry". You can't die because of internet spaceships. (not even BECAUSE OF FALCON)

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