Originally by: Serj Darek

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Originally by: BiaXia

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We prefer not to discriminate, a post is a post, no matter where it is. Yours are still pretty terrible, though.

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I take that as a compliment from a Duke of the Trolls.

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Originally by: Himo Amasacia

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Edited by: Himo Amasacia on 30/04/2009 23:15:49

Originally by: Yourbane

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And surely RKZ cares much about the Sov3, seeing how you weren't able to take it under Sov 1 or 2 ... sov 3 is a must have for sure.

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Kenny and AAA were not able to take 49-u when it was sov 1 and 2 either :smug:

By the way we have been sieging and blowing up towers all day [butterdog] with no resistance [/butterdog]. Its hella chill.

Nice to see Kenny lost 1/6 of their remaining systems too.

added for extra believability.

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Originally by: Yourbane

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Originally by: Morning Mist

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Originally by: Yourbane

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Sweet Troll dude

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Originally by: Yourbane

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In case you haven't noticed that either, you are offering them endless pvp and more ways to prove they can handle anything -

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And yes, keep on bragging about killing defenseless towers and taking undefended systems while you lose station over station, I'm pretty sure everyone will still consider this as a 'minor setback'.

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Originally by: Yourbane

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Originally by: Himo Amasacia

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Edited by: Himo Amasacia on 30/04/2009 23:15:49

Originally by: Yourbane

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And surely RKZ cares much about the Sov3, seeing how you weren't able to take it under Sov 1 or 2 ... sov 3 is a must have for sure.

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Kenny and AAA were not able to take 49-u when it was sov 1 and 2 either :smug:

By the way we have been sieging and blowing up towers all day [butterdog] with no resistance [/butterdog]. Its hella chill.

Nice to see Kenny lost 1/6 of their remaining systems too.

added for extra believability.

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In case you haven't noticed, you have been "finishing them off" for quite a while already (~1 year at least, few months for last attempt already).
And yeaaaaah you actually killed towers in a cynojammed system and took a system . woot .

When will you realize you cannot win this war ?

Simply put, the only way anyone is going to down the playerbase that makes BoB/Kenzoku is to bore them to death, and your thirst for moonblood and space is definitely going against that.
In case you haven't noticed that either, you are offering them endless pvp and more ways to prove they can handle anything - I don't know how that is going to kill them but I definitely trust your tactics.

Just face the truth : any alliance in EVE that faced the same pressure imploded fairly quickly... this one is still there, standing, and ready to fight again.
And, in fact, you took all the biggest shots available in the current game, and still they're not dead :
Metagaming (as everyone of course), Alliance disband, Sov Drop, Total blobbing, Alliance theft .... and still it's not enough.
How do you plan to kill an entity that does not seem to be very much affected by every weapon you could find in the EVE arsenal ?

Yes you killed the forums that used to spread their propaganda .. and then the only result is that you created a new trend : 'hate the goons' - a trend which is very much a copy of what BoB did before, just a tiny issue there, you haven't proven so far that you can handle the same kind of pressure.

Way to go GS -- keep on spamming the forums till you (or they) die.

Hold strong ASP !! you don't want to lose to Goons


And yes, keep on bragging about killing defenseless towers and taking undefended systems while you lose station over station, I'm pretty sure everyone will still consider this as a 'minor setback'.

And one more for all the altophobics out here - > I am not a friggin alt, go to your shrink and get that alt-o-phobia out of your mind before you call your boss an alt and lose the remainders of RL you still have.

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Originally by: The Mittani

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edit: lawl kenny tried to bubble our titan and failed

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Originally by: Admiral Frools

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Originally by: The Mittani

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edit: lawl kenny tried to bubble our titan and failed

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Saved by PL again~

Come on goonies how long until you can stand on your own??!!

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Originally by: Morning Mist

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Originally by: Admiral Frools

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Originally by: The Mittani

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edit: lawl kenny tried to bubble our titan and failed

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Saved by PL again~

Come on goonies how long until you can stand on your own??!!

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It's a delicate balance of being able to get stuff done and sucking enough to keep the war going so you don't reset us and camp us into stations forever and 8x DD us

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Originally by: Fred0

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Today marked an important event in the quest to finally take over period basis. We already got Delve ofcourse and that leaves Q which is contested since RKZ holds a very small portion of it both station wise and moon wise.

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Originally by: Himo Amasacia

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"station over station"? Dude... what stations are we losing?? Go ahead name the stations that are under any threat. In case you hadn't noticed Kenny started spamming H74 and 4 days later all 21 towers they had in the system were ash. Their offensive failed miserably. All the reinforcing work was done by Stain Empire. We are in no danger of losing a cup of coffee let alone a station. Not a single one of our stations is under attack, and we have one whole tower in reinforced. Wow. I'm sure EXE love losing everything they own and bieng dismissed as irrelevant by alts on CAOD.

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Originally by: Captain Irregardless

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Originally by: Butter Dog

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Originally by: Gaius Capua

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ha ha Razor is "unrelevant"

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they also lack an effective archiving system

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That is unpossible.

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Originally by: airborne kiwi

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with a name like period basis it has to change hands every month, amirite?

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Originally by: Yourbane

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When will you realize you cannot win this war ?

Simply put, the only way anyone is going to down the playerbase that makes BoB/Kenzoku is to bore them to death, and your thirst for moonblood and space is definitely going against that.
In case you haven't noticed that either, you are offering them endless pvp and more ways to prove they can handle anything - I don't know how that is going to kill them but I definitely trust your tactics.

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Originally by: another day another welp

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So after our success yesterday taking out the RJ3H R64, as mentioned in the previous update, we proceeded assume a reactive stance, ready to deal with whatever RKZ/A threw at us. Our enemies didn't accomplish a damn thing; they had a big blob in 49- and just sat around repping their towers. They had a spike in turnout in late euro/early US tz because of the May Day holidays in Europeland, meaning that these guys have a long weekend to sit around and play spaceship games on. They attempted to kite a tower of ours in 49-, but we chased them off and repped it.

Come US TZ, things are getting started kind of slowly. I come back later in the evening to find no headway made in sieging and Xttz's titan being bubbled in a ****star by a Kenny fleet. Yay. After mashing broadcast butan we kill the Kenny fleet, get Xttz safe, and begin sieging. DBRB has 160 goons, we're in good shape - then DBRB loses his connection. All of our normal leaders at this hour have been drinking heavily. We toss Val Streth a badge and tell him to fight crime - hit the four RKZ R64s, purge 49.

We proceed to lose a dread in 49 while sieging a tower and murdering Yaay's fleet, but apparently the guy didn't broadcast or announce he was in trouble until he popped. We hit the two 49 R64s, then C-7, but we didn't get the P4- RKZ R64.

Here are some views of the op from people who were actually there:

[11:00:06 AM] the_mittani: ok goons, I am about to write a very angry war update about how we really failed to do much last night
[11:00:12 AM] the_mittani: please tell me why i am wrong
[11:01:59 AM] jaroslav: reinforced 3 or 4 towers in 49- and the c-7 and p4 highends afaik
[11:02:08 AM] jaroslav: bob had like 100 doods
[11:02:11 AM] jaroslav: in us prime
[11:02:16 AM] the_mittani: i dont' see p4 on the list
[11:02:23 AM] jaroslav: maybe they didnt do that one then
[11:10:09 AM] mister_vee: i had to go to bed after 49- because it was 7 am my time, but 'the big thing' was basically sieging 6-1 and 6-2 in 49- as a **** you to the kenny fleet
[11:10:23 AM] mister_vee: lots of people logged off after that, val took people to siege one more moon and that was it
[11:11:01 AM] theadj: yea **** got started real late
[11:11:16 AM] theadj: i had to bail after we got 6-1 and 6-2 done, and that took forever
[11:16:45 AM] theadj: it was a cluster****, I probably should have just jumped over and took fleet
[11:20:06 AM] the_mittani: i hate when these things line up with my yoga days
[11:20:16 AM] the_mittani: because then i feel like if i'm not around to hold hands **** goes wrong
[11:21:38 AM] theadj: i was kinda surprised they had so many
[11:22:13 AM] theadj: it was all show though, they weren't interested in a fight
[11:28:37 AM] mister_vee: i think we did ok theadj
[11:28:51 AM] mister_vee: val, karttoon and me kinda ran it with help from you ? i guess
[11:28:58 AM] mister_vee: problem was people didnt stay around after 49-
[11:29:07 AM] theadj: That **** took forever
[11:29:16 AM] theadj: and we lost a dread to yaay, that's unacceptable
[11:29:22 AM] theadj: we killed 60% of his fleet but still
[11:29:37 AM] mister_vee: that dude never said a word he was primaried or something
[11:35:39 AM] theadj: Yea I don't really blame anyone
[11:35:50 AM] theadj: the participation from kenny was shocking and we were kinda holding our ****s beforehand
[11:36:08 AM] theadj: with no real op posted we got a pretty good sized gang together, we just had some communication issues
[11:36:40 AM] mister_vee: i dont think you should be all too negative, we jumped our fleet from 30 to 160 after the broadcast, got goons a lot of kills and they had fun
[11:46:32 AM] theadj: it was pretty fun actually, we didn't get as much accomplished as we needed to but got to shoot ***gots
[11:46:36 AM] theadj: and thats just as important sometimes

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Karttoon's view:

[11:20:44 AM] karttoon: Last night wasn't Goons fault completely
[11:21:26 AM] karttoon: We started off with bad participation, when Kenny was kiting a ****star below shields, we rounded up the troops to fight them off - including dding about 30 of them
[11:23:23 AM] karttoon: Then we had like 5 caps around so we really couldn't siege
[11:23:46 AM] karttoon: xttz was semi tackled, so we broadcasted and got 150 goons on to kill kenny again
[11:25:17 AM] karttoon: PL was around, so we got our caps in as well - something like 50 total combined caps
[11:25:44 AM] karttoon: DBRB disconnected (and I havn't seen him since), so I scrambled Val and we FCed together to hit the high ends there, and 1 other **** star
[11:25:52 AM] karttoon: I wanted to do more, but Shamis said PL had to sleep
[11:26:09 AM] karttoon: After that we ninjaed another high end but it was 2AM, so we called it after that
[11:26:23 AM] karttoon: It wasn't an ideal evening, but yelling at goons would be pretty dumb
[11:27:11 AM] karttoon: Especially when we didn't have op threads posted for anything
[11:27:12 AM] grayton: I blame karttoon's meebo name
[11:27:16 AM] grayton: it caused all the issues last night
[11:27:18 AM] karttoon: Well that's half the problem
[11:31:23 AM] karttoon: The point I'm trying to make is that we actually accomplished a lot
[11:31:30 AM] karttoon: Kenny slowed us down with a 160 man US TZ fleet
[11:31:59 AM] karttoon: 5 towers into reinforced, including 3 high ends wasn't a bad night - Only one isn't reinforced right now
[11:32:17 AM] karttoon: + saving a tower and getting some decent fights

At right after downtime, a GS 49- tower which wasn't timed comes out of RF and is nuked by ****ty pets. Whoops! We have no one in command after downtime. It goes down without a contest.

RKZ forms up a big blob and moves to Z-M5A1, where they have been sieging KIA towers in that EXE refinery system. We're still at 10 KIA to 7 EXE towers, but RKZ has been emboldened by their holiday and our lack of effort last night to actually put caps on the table.

So, while I'm a little unhappy that we didn't do as well as we could have last night (ideally we'd have hit P4 and more 49 towers), it seems like it was a combination of bad luck at the leadership level (DBRB losing connection, me being gone) combined with an unexpected level of RKZ resistance in our primetime, rather than anything that I should get all Shadoo about.

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Originally by: The Mittani

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update to updates:

y-o hit sov4 today, our third const capital in delve

only 2 sov4 capitals to go and delve sov is 'done'

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Originally by: Lizhia Birath

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Lol, do you think kenny is going to stop coz you get sov 4? They are angry now, just you wait till summer

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Originally by: BiaXia

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What are we going to do when summer hits?

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Originally by: Serj Darek

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Originally by: BiaXia

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What are we going to do when summer hits?

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Trying to keep morale up?

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Originally by: Serj Darek

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Trying to keep morale up?

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