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Misina Arlath Amarr	Posted - 2009.04.20 21:04:00 - [1] So look at this screenshot of the market history of Harbingers. As the topic says, Can you spot the fail? -------------------------------------------------- "Every complex problem has a solution which is easy, neat and wrong!"
De'Veldrin Minmatar Special Projects Executive	Posted - 2009.04.20 21:07:00 - [2] I need a lesson in how to read this stupid chart --Vel Originally by: Liang Nuren 10 shots really makes me a sad panda
Olga Mokroff School of Applied Knowledge	Posted - 2009.04.20 21:09:00 - [3] someone bought a harbinger for ~3.3b
Misanth RABBLE RABBLE RABBLE	Posted - 2009.04.20 21:16:00 - [4] First I thought.. double fail on OP, posting thread that isn't relevant in this section + posting image straight into forum. Then I notice the content and went.. well yah, someone got punished for their stupidity, so OP might have got the right section at least. - This space for rent
Jimer Lins Gallente Noir.	Posted - 2009.04.20 21:54:00 - [5] Hey, someone got scammed. That's worth a thread! Corp killboard-How to Kill Logoffskis
Whitehound	Posted - 2009.04.20 22:03:00 - [6] Edited by: Whitehound on 20/04/2009 22:05:21 You see such peaks once in a while on the market. It sure ruins the readability. However, I am not sure if this average is based on actually moving items, or if it is only a theoretical average. What I am saying is that it may not be related to someone buying or selling a harbinger. It could be that someone tried to sell harbingers for an enormously high price and adjusted the sell order after a few next days. If this had been a buy order then the movement would be at a peak! How to read the charts: As the info says is the dark-red line and the light-green line the average price. The difference is only that one describes it for 5 days and the other for 20 days. As a result is the dark-red line much edgier than the light-green line. This helps to keep an overview on how a price develops. It is called a moving average, because the average is calculated over a period of 5 and 20 days, and this measurement period is moving. You need to see at a proper chart and not at the one the OP gave us to understand this better. The yellow dots (or squares) are the price of a day. The donchian channel (dark-brown) is made of the highest and the lowest price on the market. It sort of frames the entire price range. All buy and sell prices are within this dark-brown area. The larger this channel gets the less stable the prices are, and the narrower the dark-brown areas are the less spread the prices are. It makes the whole thing a bit prettier if you will. The light-green bars at the bottom of the chart describe the amount of items moved. On some days you have a lot items going around and on other days just a few. In the OP's chart you see the numbers 0, 50 and 100 written to the left of it. It means that per day 50 to 100 harbingers changed the owner. Sometimes these bars tell you for how long an item has been unavailable (when there is no movement at all). I hope I have covered it all and correctly. -- If there is anything in your life you fear of losing, then keep your mouth shut once in a while.
Lady Darkmoon	Posted - 2009.04.20 22:42:00 - [7] Originally by: Whitehound What I am saying is that it may not be related to someone buying or selling a harbinger. It could be that someone tried to sell harbingers for an enormously high price and adjusted the sell order after a few days. I just checked the harbinger price history in Domain and it lists the Harbinger in the screenshot. Looking it up under the Table rather than the graph shows that it sold for 3,331,752,018.02isk
Whitehound	Posted - 2009.04.20 22:55:00 - [8] Originally by: Lady Darkmoon I just checked the harbinger price history in Domain and it lists the Harbinger in the screenshot. Looking it up under the Table rather than the graph shows that it sold for 3,331,752,018.02isk Again, the prices do not say that an item was sold at that price. You can have charts with prices above 0 and no movement. -- If there is anything in your life you fear of losing, then keep your mouth shut once in a while.
Requiescat Viper Squad Triumvirate.	Posted - 2009.04.20 22:57:00 - [9] another interesting thing to note about the market is that, in order to prevent trial accounts buying isk and giving it to real accounts, if you put up a sell order for something for 3.3 billion and there is another one available in the same place for less, you will give 3.3 bil to the person with the cheaper one and buy the cheaper one -+- let's break out the shotguns, we're going to town
TraininVain	Posted - 2009.04.20 23:02:00 - [10] The high mark is the Donchian channel, not the average. If I'm understanding what a dongian channel is it's the absolute highest and lowest points an item traded at on a particular day so as to demonstrate the volatility of the market. The averages and mean are all squished up down at the bottom so you can't see em.
Benedikt Miloslav	Posted - 2009.04.20 23:07:00 - [11] Originally by: Requiescat another interesting thing to note about the market is that, in order to prevent trial accounts buying isk and giving it to real accounts, if you put up a sell order for something for 3.3 billion and there is another one available in the same place for less, you will give 3.3 bil to the person with the cheaper one and buy the cheaper one A well known fact that is easily bypassed by simply setting a massive sell order and the cheapest order at the same time.
Kaidem Minmatar Black Rebellion	Posted - 2009.04.20 23:07:00 - [12] \o/ I spotted it
TorrusTron Caldari Taiidan Syndicate	Posted - 2009.04.21 00:48:00 - [13] and this is why i keep a few mil in me wallet and the rest on alt, cause i would easily be that guy ---------------------------- Wait here i will go for help
Hamatitio Caldari Viper Squad Triumvirate.	Posted - 2009.04.21 00:49:00 - [14] at the same time, the funny thing is. It is quite possible the person that placed the 3.3 billion isk sell order, didnt get the isk for said ship. (if he also didnt have the cheapest in station) Hijack this
Tildes own Genos Occidere	Posted - 2009.04.21 01:19:00 - [15] you are the fail
Lady Spank Amarr Sekret Kool Klubb	Posted - 2009.04.21 10:24:00 - [16] Obvious money laundering isk buying alt is obvious
Lexa Hellfury Incura	Posted - 2009.04.21 11:28:00 - [17] I think I've located the fail to which the OP refers.

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