EVE Search - Ownage of wrecks... CCP please consider

Check My IP Information

All Channels

EVE General Discussion

Ownage of wrecks... CCP please consider

» Click here to find additional results for this topic using Google

Monitor this thread via RSS [?]

Pages: 1 [2] 3 :: one page

Author	Thread Statistics \| Show CCP posts - 0 post(s)
Gariuys Evil Strangers Inc.	Posted - 2009.04.21 18:07:00 - [31] Originally by: Narahashi How do you guys expect people who pvp FOR A LIVING to make isk, if they can't even get access to the wrecks of the players they kill? At least make it rewarding for the players who do the work rather than the noobs who fly by at a lucky time, or sit around waiting for other peopel to risk their ships pvping. Too funny... keep em coming.
Faife Federation of Freedom Fighters Aggression.	Posted - 2009.04.21 18:09:00 - [32] how did i know it'd be privatears before i even clicked? --
Armoured C Gallente The Scope	Posted - 2009.04.21 18:09:00 - [33] Originally by: Faife how did i know it'd be privatears before i even clicked? lol one sec one sec YO IS BACK WITH A VENGENCE YARRRRRRR
Kazang Gallente Wrecking Shots	Posted - 2009.04.21 18:15:00 - [34] Im a high sec PVPer and totally disagree with this suggestion. Its really not hard to make sure you get the loot, just make sure you are within scoop range when the target pops. I have got more from ninja looting other peoples kills than i have lost from people looting my kills. Survival of the fastest right click and scooper. Stuff lying around in space should be the free for any enterprising soul to capitalise on. I would like looters of my kills to be flagged to me though, as that will not only result in more loot for me but more kills too xD. I normally just wardec and harass anyone who loots my kills though. Stop being a ***** and expecting stuff handed to you and do something about the loot thieves yourself? Or maybe you should just find somewhere other than jita 4-4 undock to pvp? Kazang
Hariya	Posted - 2009.04.21 18:20:00 - [35] Originally by: Narahashi You might've just killed a cruiser carrying a rokh BPO, and as you are slowboating over towards the wreck some idiot in a noobship comes up, grabs the loot, salvages the wreck and warps off, what can you do about it? NOTHING. You get Rokh BPOs with your Salvager I ? Holy crap, I got to start salvaging
Zaknussem Intrum Industria	Posted - 2009.04.21 18:30:00 - [36] Originally by: LeeBaak I think you have it backwards. I think all wrecks and LOOT should be FFA. Bingo. First come, first serve. Finders, keepers. Early bird gets the worm, etc. And then, as a possible extension of that idea, add the option to "buy" the ownership of the wreck from CONCORD. First capsuleer who gets to the wreck and clicks a "Flag it!" button pays ISKies to CONCORD and claims ownership. The usual rules for ownership apply afterwards (i.e. not at all in 0.0). The above could potentially be restricted so that only player corporations could claim ownership. That wrecks and cans from NPC corporations would always be "free for all". I'm just making this up as I go along, but maybe there's something useful in here. Thoughts?
Felicity Shears	Posted - 2009.04.21 18:32:00 - [37] Originally by: Tippia For the record, stealing loot from under the nose of Jita suicide gankers is great funà For extra giggles, why not suicide gank the hauler which the original suicide ganker sends to pick up the loot, it's awesome
ShadowMaiden Amarr Divine Radiance	Posted - 2009.04.21 18:35:00 - [38] Edited by: ShadowMaiden on 21/04/2009 18:36:48 Originally by: Narahashi If somebody gets a kill in PVP, the wreck of the victim should belong to THE KILLER. It is the killer who might have camped that station for 3 hours straight, THE KILLER who followed that war target for 18 jumps cloaked... THE KILLER was not forced to do any of this. THE KILLER is carrying out an act of choice. THE KILLER should adapt and make plans to grab the loot before someone else does. THE KILLER needs to learn appropriate use of CRUISE CONTROL. Also, thank you for signing your post, as I didn't quite believe it was you from your name on the left hand side.
Rheed We The People	Posted - 2009.04.21 18:37:00 - [39] If someone is taking the loot from a wreak you popped, then you are doing it wrong. If the loot means that much to you, have an alt or a corp member stand by to scoop the wreck before anyone else gets it. ----------------------------------- Look at me! I'm on the INTERNET!!!
Tippia Raddick Explorations BlackWater.	Posted - 2009.04.21 18:42:00 - [40] Originally by: Felicity Shears Originally by: Tippia For the record, stealing loot from under the nose of Jita suicide gankers is great fun… For extra giggles, why not suicide gank the hauler which the original suicide ganker sends to pick up the loot, it's awesome True, but then I'd have to smack them in local for being such a bunch of nubbins, and I don't have the time or inclination for doing that. ——— “If you're not willing to fight for what you have in ≡v≡… you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.” — Karath Piki

Abrazzar	Posted - 2009.04.21 18:42:00 - [41] Just remove wreck ownership completely. Now even the PvPers are crying about it. -------- Ideas for: Mining
Vaal Erit Science and Trade Institute	Posted - 2009.04.21 18:56:00 - [42] Get off the Jita 4-4 undock and maybe you 'll keep some of the loot, privanoob. Under your proposal, the original owner of said wreck would have to commit a criminal act when retrieving his stuff. Ya, that makes sense. Originally by: CCP Whisper So you're going to have to do some actual thinking with regards to hull components and their capabilities instead of copying some cookie-cutter setup. Cry some more.
Some Advisor	Posted - 2009.04.21 19:17:00 - [43] Originally by: Narahashi Over time people have asked to 'Make the loot stealers flashy red' and the same for ninja salvagers,... loot stealers are flashy red since quite some time wrecks belong to the first guy who salvages no issues here
Malcanis Vanishing Point. The Initiative.	Posted - 2009.04.21 19:20:00 - [44] Originally by: Narahashi Are you a wardecing corp/alliance? Do you take part in high/lowsec pvp? And do you have to constantly deal with your victims wrecks being looted by other playes before you get there? You might've just killed a cruiser carrying a rokh BPO, and as you are slowboating over towards the wreck some idiot in a noobship comes up, grabs the loot, salvages the wreck and warps off, what can you do about it? NOTHING. Over time people have asked to 'Make the loot stealers flashy red' and the same for ninja salvagers, but I have a better proposal to you CCP. If somebody gets a kill in PVP, the wreck of the victim should belong to THE KILLER. It is the killer who might have camped that station for 3 hours straight, THE KILLER who followed that war target for 18 jumps cloaked... So hear me out, why not have locked wrecks? When a kill has been successful, aswell as getting a killmail I propose that the person who killed the victim gets a seperate mail, from CONCORD, with the password to access the wreck. Now seeing as the password could be anything at all, it could be a 5 digit number, which is randomly generated for every kill, so it is near impossible to guess. The wrecks could last in space for say 2 hours, and if not looted by the owner ( Killer ) are unlocked and the public society can get access to them. As for PVE, the player who gets killed should only get the password to the wreck too, so they are able to come back and loot their ships wreck, as NPC's killed them I very much doubt they can do something with the wreck lol... Please let me know what you think, I think this idea could be put into action very successfuly, and would help pvpers make isk for their time! --Narahashi-- I think you're a god dambed carebear.
Dark Soldat Caldari	Posted - 2009.04.21 19:22:00 - [45] tldr; WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHH noob got my bpo
Sol'Kanar SRIUS BISNIS	Posted - 2009.04.21 19:26:00 - [46] Originally by: Dark Soldat tldr; WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHH noob got my bpo BPNooooooooooooo!
Armoured C Gallente Federation of Freedom Fighters Aggression.	Posted - 2009.04.21 19:29:00 - [47] Originally by: Sol'Kanar Originally by: Dark Soldat tldr; WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHH noob got my bpo BPNooooooooooooo! why does your dude look like a child molester :) IS BACK WITH A VENGENCE YARRRRRRR
motomysz No Limit Productions Mostly Harmless	Posted - 2009.04.21 19:42:00 - [48] Originally by: Sniper Wolf18 HEY GUIZE How about a timer that when mobs drop loot you can't take it because it isnt your loot, that'll teach those ninja griefers who's boss!!! /sarcasm I'm going to have to cite you for improper (proper) use of an apostrophe while trolling. Tsk tsk... and twice in the same post...
Malcanis Vanishing Point. The Initiative.	Posted - 2009.04.21 19:47:00 - [49] Originally by: Armoured C Originally by: Sol'Kanar Originally by: Dark Soldat tldr; WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHH noob got my bpo BPNooooooooooooo! why does your dude look like a child molester :) funny story...
Mal Plox The xDEATHx Squadron Legion of xXDEATHXx	Posted - 2009.04.21 19:49:00 - [50] Killing someone doesn't give you the right to loot their wreck, it gives you an ability to do so. You don't own that wreck, nor should you. You don't own that loot when it's inside the wreck, you don't own that loot when it's in your cargo either. Putting loot in your cargo doesn't make you the owner, makes you a target with more loot. Only when it's hidden inside an NPC station you can call it yours.. until someone scams it from you. ---

Billy Sastard Amarr Life. Universe. Everything.	Posted - 2009.04.21 19:54:00 - [51] Originally by: Mal Plox Killing someone doesn't give you the right to loot their wreck, it gives you an ability to do so. You don't own that wreck, nor should you. You don't own that loot when it's inside the wreck, you don't own that loot when it's in your cargo either. Putting loot in your cargo doesn't make you the owner, makes you a target with more loot. Only when it's hidden inside an NPC station you can call it yours.. until someone scams it from you. Now here is a man who understands EVE! Sometimes I think it would be nice to go back to the pre-RMR rules where can flagging did not exist, all floating thingys were free to whomever decided to take from them. However, I then consider all the shenannegans that can flagging brings about and that makes me feel all warm and fuzzy inside. <-------------------------------------------------> "Only two things are infinite, the universe and human stupidity, and I'm not sure about the former." -Albert Einstein
ShadowMaiden Amarr Divine Radiance	Posted - 2009.04.21 19:59:00 - [52] Originally by: Mal Plox Killing someone doesn't give you the right to loot their wreck, it gives you an ability to do so. You don't own that wreck, nor should you. You don't own that loot when it's inside the wreck, you don't own that loot when it's in your cargo either. Putting loot in your cargo doesn't make you the owner, makes you a target with more loot. Only when it's hidden inside an NPC station you can call it yours.. until someone scams it from you. Best repsonse ever. /tips hat Only when it's hidden inside an NPC station you can call it yours.. until someone scams it from you. - damn! still lolling.....
Kieler	Posted - 2009.04.21 20:27:00 - [53] Originally by: ShadowMaiden Originally by: Mal Plox Killing someone doesn't give you the right to loot their wreck, it gives you an ability to do so. You don't own that wreck, nor should you. You don't own that loot when it's inside the wreck, you don't own that loot when it's in your cargo either. Putting loot in your cargo doesn't make you the owner, makes you a target with more loot. Only when it's hidden inside an NPC station you can call it yours.. until someone scams it from you. Best repsonse ever. /tips hat Only when it's hidden inside an NPC station you can call it yours.. until someone scams it from you. - damn! still lolling..... Yes, this is the EVE that kicked me in the nuts, and then made me want more.
Ms Delerium	Posted - 2009.04.21 21:15:00 - [54] Achuras and their sense of carebearism... grow some balls and get over it
Dharh	Posted - 2009.04.21 21:17:00 - [55] Originally by: LeeBaak I think you have it backwards. I think all wrecks and LOOT should be FFA. KB It should be realistic. If in high sec and there is a ship there to detect you stealing loot or cans (excluding salvaging wrecks, that should always be FFA, since its basically nothing more than junk), you should get sec adjustment and timer. Otherwise only locked cans should trigger timer and sec adjustment. CONCORD police would only believe the person who files the complaint if they have ships/secure can recordings to prove it.
StarFoox Sebiestor tribe	Posted - 2009.04.21 21:26:00 - [56] Originally by: Narahashi Originally by: Kirith Kodachi Originally by: Narahashi If somebody gets a kill in PVP, the wreck of the victim should belong to THE KILLER. It is the killer who might have camped that station for 3 hours straight, THE KILLER who followed that war target for 18 jumps cloaked... You got the kill, and now you want exclusive access to the wreck and loot too? In essence, you want all the fun and all the reward. No. You want your wreck and loot? Get friends to do the work quickly for you. Man, what a sense of entitlement. Well I think If I get a kill, I should deserve the loot more than the idiot who does nothing and comes by in a frig to steal 100's of millions of loot don't you? You kill someone and you get nothing, someone else comes and take all the loot. Guess who's the idiot
Ruze Ahkor'Murkon Amarr No Applicable Corporation	Posted - 2009.04.21 21:29:00 - [57] I believe all salvage, loot and corpses that remain after a ship is destroyed should remain the sole possession of the person who owned the destroyed ship. That way, even if YOU destroy it and someone else loots it, you both become flagged to that player. This, however, should also be carried over into NPC land, which is currently the only exception. NPC's should be brought in line with the rest of the game, not the other way around. You don't get loot rights for killing someone. That stuff is still theirs, and that's the way it should remain. Fighting off scavengers and thieves? Part of the business.
Intense Thinker Minmatar	Posted - 2009.04.21 21:30:00 - [58] I believe all wrecks and salvage should belong to me with concord protection in all highsec, lowsec, and 0.0
Zeba Minmatar Honourable East India Trading Company	Posted - 2009.04.21 21:32:00 - [59] Originally by: stoicfaux Welcome to Eve, where even PvP is subject to PvP. /thread
Criztian Gaeta	Posted - 2009.04.21 21:42:00 - [60] Couldn't this argument be used for mining to? The miner did all the work, you have no right to kill him or steal his ore... The only thing that I can think of that I MIGHT agree on, is if somehow you made it harder for the thief to scurry away. Maybe like blocking his ability to jump or warp away for like 30 sec. But personally, I think it's fine as it is...



Pages: 1 [2] 3 :: one page
First page \| Previous page \| Next page \| Last page

COPYRIGHT NOTICE
EVE Online, the EVE logo, EVE and all associated logos and designs are the intellectual property of CCP hf. All artwork, screenshots, characters, vehicles, storylines, world facts or other recognizable features of the intellectual property relating to these trademarks are likewise the intellectual property of CCP hf. EVE Online and the EVE logo are the registered trademarks of CCP hf. All rights are reserved worldwide. All other trademarks are the property of their respective owners. CCP hf. has granted permission to EVE-Search.com to use EVE Online and all associated logos and designs for promotional and information purposes on its website but does not endorse, and is not in any way affiliated with, EVE-Search.com. CCP is in no way responsible for the content on or functioning of this website, nor can it be liable for any damage arising from the use of this website.