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Doctor Ungabungas
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
102
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Posted - 2012.05.06 13:57:00 -
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Andski wrote:Eternum Praetorian wrote:Doctor Ungabungas wrote:Trit being the huge earner that it is, it makes plenty of sense that 'botters' in 0.0 would abandon their great mineral sources for ****** ones. It's not a hug ISK earner, and I now see that you have no idea how all this works (which explains your ludicrous counter arguments) Supercapitals req massive amounts of trit, we are talking about billions and billions of units of tritium to generate a constant flow of capitals and supercapital production. The best way to get all of that trit is to farm all day in the safety of empire... all the live long day. It is not about ISK, it is about the uninterrupted yield. * Eternum educates a probie goon. You understand that we have been buying all of the minerals we need for supercapital production rather than making any attempt to mine them ourselves, right?
No you see, he is educating us about supercapital production. Because obviously, we'd have no experience with that :( |
Doctor Ungabungas
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
102
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Posted - 2012.05.06 13:57:00 -
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Eternum Praetorian wrote:Doctor Ungabungas wrote:
We have trit in 0.0 too. Veldspar as far as the eye can see, and you don't need to compress and move it.
Thanks for teaching me about supercapital production though, you have certainly educated me as to what goes into making a supercapital class space vessel.
You do have veld out there yes, but you don't want to spend all of that time mining it. It is better if you AFK large botting fleets in empire that do not have to worry about reds in system. The trit is then compressed by manufacturing capital ship size ammo, and then it is jump-freighted to nullsec to be reprocessed back into trit. This way all you have to do is mine the high ends. The bots do all of the leg work for you in empire. Pulling a billion units of trit is hard work yo.
But you haven't explained to me why this mythical bot army can't do the same job in 0.0 where, as I said, you don't have to compress and move it. Because the thing about trit is that you can't compress it without the high ends as well. |
Andski
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
4069
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Posted - 2012.05.06 13:58:00 -
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I love the pubbies trying to teach Doctor Ungabungas about building supercaps "WeGÇÖre a professional Merc Alliance, like PL" ~ snot shot, 2012 |
Eternum Praetorian
Malum Crusis
762
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Posted - 2012.05.06 14:00:00 -
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Doctor Ungabungas wrote: But you haven't explained to me why this mythical bot army can't do the same job in 0.0 where, as I said, you don't have to compress and move it. Because the thing about trit is that you can't compress it without the high ends as well.
Sure I have you just have reading comp issues.
Bots don't like when reds enter system. It requires work to patrol an area of space, it would need roaming defense fleets and your bots in null would be supportable to AFK cloakers and black ops attacks. In empire you don't have to worry about any of these things.
Sure you get the odd ganker, but the over all benefit of mining veld 23/7 without interruption far outweighs the loss of a random hullk, being that your goal is supercapital production. I knows all your secrets bra.
Quote:You understand that we have been buying all of the minerals we need for supercapital production rather than making any attempt to mine them ourselves, right?
Some of it is bought sure, but where do you think that trit comes from? Empire bots.
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Thomas Kreshant
Republic Military School Minmatar Republic
40
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Posted - 2012.05.06 14:00:00 -
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Doctor Ungabungas wrote:
But you haven't explained to me why this mythical bot army can't do the same job in 0.0 where, as I said, you don't have to compress and move it. Because the thing about trit is that you can't compress it without the high ends as well.
Ah that's why you wanted to buy all those miners on ebay earlier in the thread.
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Doctor Ungabungas
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
102
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Posted - 2012.05.06 14:00:00 -
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Andski wrote:I love the pubbies trying to teach Doctor Ungabungas about building supercaps
Hey now, there's obviously something that this high sec dude knows that I haven't discovered in the 40 supercarriers and 6 titans I've built.
Let the guy speak. |
Dapud
2
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Posted - 2012.05.06 14:00:00 -
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The day you post something on your main and someone convo's you and says "haha that was funny what you said" or "I liek that" you will understand why people use alts.
It doesn't really matter as you can clearly see what the person's agenda is and make assumptions from there. Unless you're some internet tuffguy dipshit who's going to lolwardec or something? Which I assume everyone is who cries about alts. |
Doctor Ungabungas
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
102
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Posted - 2012.05.06 14:00:00 -
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Thomas Kreshant wrote:Doctor Ungabungas wrote:
But you haven't explained to me why this mythical bot army can't do the same job in 0.0 where, as I said, you don't have to compress and move it. Because the thing about trit is that you can't compress it without the high ends as well.
Ah that's why you wanted to buy all those miners on ebay earlier in the thread.
The thing about buying characters for Isk is that they don't cost any money, you crazy man. |
Andski
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
4069
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Posted - 2012.05.06 14:01:00 -
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Eternum Praetorian wrote:Doctor Ungabungas wrote: But you haven't explained to me why this mythical bot army can't do the same job in 0.0 where, as I said, you don't have to compress and move it. Because the thing about trit is that you can't compress it without the high ends as well.
Sure I have you just have reading comp issues. Bots don't like when reds enter system. It requires work to patrol an area of space, it would need roaming defense fleets and your bots in null would be supportable to AFK cloakers and black ops attacks. In empire you don't have to worry about any of these things. Sure you get the odd ganker, but the over all benefit of mining veld 23/7 without interruption far outweighs the loss of a random hullk, being that your goal is supercapital production. I knows all your secrets bra.
ah so what you're saying is that high-sec is safer "WeGÇÖre a professional Merc Alliance, like PL" ~ snot shot, 2012 |
Doctor Ungabungas
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
102
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Posted - 2012.05.06 14:01:00 -
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Dapud wrote:The day you post something on your main and someone convo's you and says "haha that was funny what you said" or "I liek that" you will understand why people use alts.
Objection: That has never happened to you.
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Andski
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
4069
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Posted - 2012.05.06 14:02:00 -
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I mean really if I want to learn about building supercapitals Eternum Praetorian is my go-to guy "WeGÇÖre a professional Merc Alliance, like PL" ~ snot shot, 2012 |
Eternum Praetorian
Malum Crusis
762
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Posted - 2012.05.06 14:02:00 -
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Andski wrote:Eternum Praetorian wrote:Doctor Ungabungas wrote: But you haven't explained to me why this mythical bot army can't do the same job in 0.0 where, as I said, you don't have to compress and move it. Because the thing about trit is that you can't compress it without the high ends as well.
Sure I have you just have reading comp issues. Bots don't like when reds enter system. It requires work to patrol an area of space, it would need roaming defense fleets and your bots in null would be supportable to AFK cloakers and black ops attacks. In empire you don't have to worry about any of these things. Sure you get the odd ganker, but the over all benefit of mining veld 23/7 without interruption far outweighs the loss of a random hullk, being that your goal is supercapital production. I knows all your secrets bra. ah so what you're saying is that high-sec is safer
For an undefended mining fleet funded by null sec tycoons? Um... yes? Also the minerals you purchase come from the same place whether you know it or not.
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Antisocial Malkavian
Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation
65
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Posted - 2012.05.06 14:03:00 -
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Eternum Praetorian wrote:Seleia O'Sinnor wrote:Doctor Ungabungas wrote:Seleia O'Sinnor wrote:So every miner deserves death? Where do minerals come from then? Bots obviously.
Goons should KNOW this. http://www.bioone.org/doi/abs/10.2317/JKES0811.17.1 Bees That Drink Human Tears -- ITS SCIENCE!!! |
Doctor Ungabungas
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
102
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Posted - 2012.05.06 14:03:00 -
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Eternum Praetorian wrote:Andski wrote:Eternum Praetorian wrote:Doctor Ungabungas wrote: But you haven't explained to me why this mythical bot army can't do the same job in 0.0 where, as I said, you don't have to compress and move it. Because the thing about trit is that you can't compress it without the high ends as well.
Sure I have you just have reading comp issues. Bots don't like when reds enter system. It requires work to patrol an area of space, it would need roaming defense fleets and your bots in null would be supportable to AFK cloakers and black ops attacks. In empire you don't have to worry about any of these things. Sure you get the odd ganker, but the over all benefit of mining veld 23/7 without interruption far outweighs the loss of a random hullk, being that your goal is supercapital production. I knows all your secrets bra. ah so what you're saying is that high-sec is safer For an undefended mining fleet funded by null sec tycoons? Um... yes? Also the minerals you purchase come from the same place whether you know it or not.
You still haven't given us a good reason why we wouldn't do this mining in 0.0? Because like I said, trit by itself in empire is completely useless for supercapital building. |
Andski
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
4069
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Posted - 2012.05.06 14:04:00 -
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Eternum Praetorian wrote:For an undefended mining fleet funded by null sec tycoons? Um... yes? Also the minerals you purchase come from the same place whether you know it or not.
yeah, up until literally two weeks ago, guess where they came from?
drone alloys and melted mission loot, whoops "WeGÇÖre a professional Merc Alliance, like PL" ~ snot shot, 2012 |
Doctor Ungabungas
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
102
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Posted - 2012.05.06 14:04:00 -
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Antisocial Malkavian wrote:Eternum Praetorian wrote:Seleia O'Sinnor wrote:Doctor Ungabungas wrote:Seleia O'Sinnor wrote:So every miner deserves death? Where do minerals come from then? Bots obviously. Goons should KNOW this.
In my experience minerals come from "Jita 4-4". |
Eternum Praetorian
Malum Crusis
762
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Posted - 2012.05.06 14:05:00 -
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Doctor Ungabungas wrote:ridiculous pyramid post
You still haven't given us a good reason why we wouldn't do this mining in 0.0? Because like I said, trit by itself in empire is completely useless for supercapital building.
I did several times, but I understand why you would want to divert attention from it. It would be hard to seem "cool" if the truth of empire bots came out, where the minerals were going and who was ultimately responsible for the bots.
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Andski
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
4069
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Posted - 2012.05.06 14:05:00 -
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hey hisec guy give me a ballpark figure on how much tritanium is needed for a titan "WeGÇÖre a professional Merc Alliance, like PL" ~ snot shot, 2012 |
Asuri Kinnes
Adhocracy Incorporated Adhocracy
405
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Posted - 2012.05.06 14:05:00 -
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Andski wrote:Asuri Kinnes wrote:When I'm in warp, they're going pop. Doesn't matter if they're aligned (lol) or have warp core stabs or reinforced bulkheads. Before I go in warp I know how they're fit, where they're aligned to (if) and how much dps (within +/- 5%) it will take to kill them. I've seen aligned carriers/dreads dodge doomsdays. A Hulk has superior mobility to both. Swing and a miss...
Apples and Oranges.
Carriers / Dreads are going to have a support fleet around them, I bet they get 10 times the warning of Hulks/Macs. And before you say it, mining does get done with group support. So that takes a **** return, and divides it by whatever.
If I decide a mac or hulk is going down, and I get into warp, they are dead.
period.
Spin it whatever way you want, there is only *one* safe place for a mac/hulk if someone is looking to gank them - stations. Carriers and dreads get tackled and free'd all the time.
Not the same.
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Thomas Kreshant
Republic Military School Minmatar Republic
40
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Posted - 2012.05.06 14:06:00 -
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Doctor Ungabungas wrote:
The thing about buying characters for Isk is that they don't cost any money, you crazy man.
You were talking about buying characters from people that had rage quit eve.
Why would someone playing a different game take ISK in a game they don't play any more Sounds fishy to me |
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Vimsy Vortis
Shoulda Checked Local Break-A-Wish Foundation
513
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Posted - 2012.05.06 14:06:00 -
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Hey OP, not everyone in highsec is a NPC corp alt posting, hulk flying whiny shitlord like you.
Please stop trying to destroy the spirit of the game by begging CCP to make you invincible in highsec. |
Eternum Praetorian
Malum Crusis
762
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Posted - 2012.05.06 14:06:00 -
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Andski wrote:Eternum Praetorian wrote:For an undefended mining fleet funded by null sec tycoons? Um... yes? Also the minerals you purchase come from the same place whether you know it or not. yeah, up until literally two weeks ago, guess where they came from?
Wait what? There were bots in the drone regions? Neva!
...Hmm but what did the other alliances that did not live in the drone regions do? Oh yea!
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Antisocial Malkavian
Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation
65
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Posted - 2012.05.06 14:06:00 -
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Whitehound wrote:Doctor Ungabungas wrote:Whitehound wrote:Blatant Forum Alt wrote:Hulk has a better tank than t1 barges, and can tank many null sec rat spawns. Description is fine. And 0.0 is a single-player game. Sure, bro. Eve isn't a single player game. For me it is not, but for you Goons it is. "We are all only pieces of a boring game" to you.
Id imagine Burn Jita and them sponsoring hulkageddon etc is cause theyre just getting bored in their vaunted 0.0. If its so fun out there why are you looking inward to high? "for the lulz" right? If you listened to ppl in null theyd pretend there are lulz to be had in 0.0.
Isnt that right?
http://www.bioone.org/doi/abs/10.2317/JKES0811.17.1 Bees That Drink Human Tears -- ITS SCIENCE!!! |
Andski
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
4071
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Posted - 2012.05.06 14:06:00 -
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Eternum Praetorian wrote:I did several times, but I understand why you would want to divert attention from it. It would be hard to seem "cool" if the truth of empire bots came out, where the minerals were going and who was ultimately responsible for the bots.
yeah and it was obviously kept under wraps until well-known powerbroker Eternum Praetorian blew it wide open "WeGÇÖre a professional Merc Alliance, like PL" ~ snot shot, 2012 |
Doctor Ungabungas
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
102
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Posted - 2012.05.06 14:06:00 -
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Eternum Praetorian wrote:Doctor Ungabungas wrote:ridiculous pyramid post
You still haven't given us a good reason why we wouldn't do this mining in 0.0? Because like I said, trit by itself in empire is completely useless for supercapital building. I did several times, but I understand why you would want to divert attention from it. It would be hard to seem "cool" if the truth of empire bots came out, where the minerals were going and who was ultimately responsible for the bots.
I'll ask again since you refuse to answer it: How are we getting this mythical pile of empire trit to 0.0? |
Andski
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
4071
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Posted - 2012.05.06 14:07:00 -
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Asuri Kinnes wrote:If I decide a mac or hulk is going down, and I get into warp, they are dead.
oh look that catalyst is landing in the belt and he's flashy, good thing I'm aligned *clicks warp* "WeGÇÖre a professional Merc Alliance, like PL" ~ snot shot, 2012 |
Eternum Praetorian
Malum Crusis
762
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Posted - 2012.05.06 14:08:00 -
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Doctor Ungabungas wrote:Eternum Praetorian wrote:Doctor Ungabungas wrote:ridiculous pyramid post
You still haven't given us a good reason why we wouldn't do this mining in 0.0? Because like I said, trit by itself in empire is completely useless for supercapital building. I did several times, but I understand why you would want to divert attention from it. It would be hard to seem "cool" if the truth of empire bots came out, where the minerals were going and who was ultimately responsible for the bots. I'll ask again since you refuse to answer it: How are we getting this mythical pile of empire trit to 0.0?
I have not refused anything, saying that I refused something to push my answer off of the front page does not change the fact that answers were given several times. Maybe you should address my points and develop some kind of valid counter argument instead?
You will look less guilty.
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Eternum Praetorian
Malum Crusis
762
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Posted - 2012.05.06 14:09:00 -
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Andski wrote:Eternum Praetorian wrote:I did several times, but I understand why you would want to divert attention from it. It would be hard to seem "cool" if the truth of empire bots came out, where the minerals were going and who was ultimately responsible for the bots.
yeah and it was obviously kept under wraps until well-known powerbroker Eternum Praetorian blew it wide open
No it's fairly well known, just not spoken of much because the trolls want to keep it under wraps as best they can on an open forum. That is where Eternum comes in.
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Antisocial Malkavian
Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation
65
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Posted - 2012.05.06 14:10:00 -
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Doctor Ungabungas wrote:Antisocial Malkavian wrote:
Goons should KNOW this.
In my experience minerals come from "Jita 4-4".
Ah yes Goons dont mine
(we have our RMT corp do that for us)
http://www.bioone.org/doi/abs/10.2317/JKES0811.17.1 Bees That Drink Human Tears -- ITS SCIENCE!!! |
Doctor Ungabungas
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
102
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Posted - 2012.05.06 14:10:00 -
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Eternum Praetorian wrote:Doctor Ungabungas wrote: I'll ask again since you refuse to answer it: How are we getting this mythical pile of empire trit to 0.0?
I have not refused anything, saying that I refused something to push my answer off of the front page does not change the fact that answers were given several times. Maybe you should address my points and develop some kind of valid counter argument instead? You will look less guilty.
How is this trit getting from empire to 0.0? If you can't move it, it's useless for supercap building. |
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