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Tbone
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Posted - 2004.08.30 11:15:00 -
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As an Ex-FA member, FA has one of the best strategic place avail in game. They are far enough from empire that if invading forces want to come, they got to make the jumps to YZ.
At same time, I seen someone talking about CFS space. I rem when I was FA and the reason the council gave us was to protect the backdoor. Not something we were use to since we had 2 ways in, hophib and thru syndicate. Then the backdoors came and opened the y-2an0 gate and FA got worried.
FA will always be rich due to the fact of XAN and BIG, even though I left and fought them. They do have their **** together no matter what Aneu says. They have grown up from when I defended fountain during the m0o wars and everyone in game always learns to adapt. The blobbing thing isnt just FA, all alliances do it and it is the way game mechanics play atm.
Now with shiva, things might change, you might see 2 alliances form with each other. To me that would be SA/FA cause SA will have major probs with CA next door.
Just my opinion as a drunkerd.
And anything that needs to be said to me can be forwarded to my attorney-at-law - Viceroy. -----------------------------------------------
Unholy Killboard
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Tbone
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Posted - 2004.08.30 11:15:00 -
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As an Ex-FA member, FA has one of the best strategic place avail in game. They are far enough from empire that if invading forces want to come, they got to make the jumps to YZ.
At same time, I seen someone talking about CFS space. I rem when I was FA and the reason the council gave us was to protect the backdoor. Not something we were use to since we had 2 ways in, hophib and thru syndicate. Then the backdoors came and opened the y-2an0 gate and FA got worried.
FA will always be rich due to the fact of XAN and BIG, even though I left and fought them. They do have their **** together no matter what Aneu says. They have grown up from when I defended fountain during the m0o wars and everyone in game always learns to adapt. The blobbing thing isnt just FA, all alliances do it and it is the way game mechanics play atm.
Now with shiva, things might change, you might see 2 alliances form with each other. To me that would be SA/FA cause SA will have major probs with CA next door.
Just my opinion as a drunkerd.
And anything that needs to be said to me can be forwarded to my attorney-at-law - Viceroy. -----------------------------------------------
Unholy Killboard
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Vulcanlord
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Posted - 2004.08.30 12:01:00 -
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Look at the map, FA has two very strong friends on both sides. They are in the middle and they also help support everyone. The mutual benefit is FA territory is open and friends can mine what they want safely. They have forged a strong bubble of alliances and it takes leadership and diplomacy to do that. pure talent.
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Vulcanlord
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Posted - 2004.08.30 12:01:00 -
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Look at the map, FA has two very strong friends on both sides. They are in the middle and they also help support everyone. The mutual benefit is FA territory is open and friends can mine what they want safely. They have forged a strong bubble of alliances and it takes leadership and diplomacy to do that. pure talent.
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sutty
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Posted - 2004.08.30 12:13:00 -
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PVP comes with practice and experience of other players. Basically if everyone started attacking FA they would soon adapt like the CA have and the SA have, who now are mostly respectably good at pvp.
You can only really speculate at how rich fountain is, but with Xan controlling alot of tech 2 goods and other corps like BIG etc raking in the money I suspect there money pot is rather large.
On a hole you have to say fountain have always done well to keep there "good" guy imagine up which has made life pretty easy for them. Even with shiva on the way, if FA decide to put alot of POS up I know i'll be going up there to shoot it. 
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sutty
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Posted - 2004.08.30 12:13:00 -
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PVP comes with practice and experience of other players. Basically if everyone started attacking FA they would soon adapt like the CA have and the SA have, who now are mostly respectably good at pvp.
You can only really speculate at how rich fountain is, but with Xan controlling alot of tech 2 goods and other corps like BIG etc raking in the money I suspect there money pot is rather large.
On a hole you have to say fountain have always done well to keep there "good" guy imagine up which has made life pretty easy for them. Even with shiva on the way, if FA decide to put alot of POS up I know i'll be going up there to shoot it. 
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Nafri
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Posted - 2004.08.30 12:18:00 -
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FA is only lucky thy have no major hostile nearby
CA and SA are busy with each other
Xetic is busy mining/npcling
PA is busy with NCA
NORAD has no real good home and is busy with pirates in syndicate
TPS has civil war
no wonder FA looks strong but thy also looked strong before m0o and FE (yeah the old one) invaded and did major harm although thy were big time outnumbered
i think military wise CA is still the strongest alliances, although thy are preety spread out, but when thy blob thy blob everyone else to death
fear it if the servery could handle the CA force blobbed together Wanna fly with me?
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Nafri
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Posted - 2004.08.30 12:18:00 -
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FA is only lucky thy have no major hostile nearby
CA and SA are busy with each other
Xetic is busy mining/npcling
PA is busy with NCA
NORAD has no real good home and is busy with pirates in syndicate
TPS has civil war
no wonder FA looks strong but thy also looked strong before m0o and FE (yeah the old one) invaded and did major harm although thy were big time outnumbered
i think military wise CA is still the strongest alliances, although thy are preety spread out, but when thy blob thy blob everyone else to death
fear it if the servery could handle the CA force blobbed together Wanna fly with me?
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Dolemite2K
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Posted - 2004.08.30 12:31:00 -
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dident we have this discusion,.. like i dont know yesterday? jeez ----------------------------------------------- Life is like a long poo that you have to take a bite of every day |

Dolemite2K
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Posted - 2004.08.30 12:31:00 -
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dident we have this discusion,.. like i dont know yesterday? jeez ----------------------------------------------- Life is like a long poo that you have to take a bite of every day |

Lallante
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Posted - 2004.08.30 12:59:00 -
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You seem to forget that FA have been as strong a position as this twice before and been decimated.
The first time, they sent around 50 BS down to Curse to join an invasion with Evol and SA. I believe CA dispatched 35 before FA retreated (I should know, I led the final battles in E02 and M-M where we scored 20 odd kills to 2 losses)
Then they were left alone for some months, and rebuilt to where they were. THEN m0o and friends went in and ganked them back to square one.
Now they are up their again. If they come out of their foxhole YZ, they WILL die. They simply dont have the PvP abilities of SA and CA (from months of solid practice, day in day out).
A Force with 50% PvPers and 50% miners will lose to an 100% PvP force half its size. Victory (as Duke Droklar sure as hell knows and is wont to tell us) is all about organisation, communication and experience.
Lall - THE Vocal Minority - ShinRa
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Lallante
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Posted - 2004.08.30 12:59:00 -
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You seem to forget that FA have been as strong a position as this twice before and been decimated.
The first time, they sent around 50 BS down to Curse to join an invasion with Evol and SA. I believe CA dispatched 35 before FA retreated (I should know, I led the final battles in E02 and M-M where we scored 20 odd kills to 2 losses)
Then they were left alone for some months, and rebuilt to where they were. THEN m0o and friends went in and ganked them back to square one.
Now they are up their again. If they come out of their foxhole YZ, they WILL die. They simply dont have the PvP abilities of SA and CA (from months of solid practice, day in day out).
A Force with 50% PvPers and 50% miners will lose to an 100% PvP force half its size. Victory (as Duke Droklar sure as hell knows and is wont to tell us) is all about organisation, communication and experience.
Lall - THE Vocal Minority - ShinRa
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The Reporter
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Posted - 2004.08.30 13:27:00 -
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Originally by: Yama Booshi
Originally by: Duke Droklar Lets see.
3- FA sends out a mail (which has been made public in another thread) which clearly orders all FA forces to huddle together in a single system and to not leave.
Besides all the blatant smear campaigning against FA by the CA there is one thing I keep seeing being used as 'fact' in the last few days by Duke, which is the above quote.
This mail was NOT sent out to all FA members as I am certain I never received it. (And upon checking with other FA members, they have not seen it either.)
So Duke, you take stuff you read on the forums as fact? As a person who is trying all he can to twist the truth in every post you make in an attempt to slander FA, you should know that facts are not presented here.
So please, do not use half facts or utter slander in your posts. I almost feel the need to end with "Get a clue", but that would put me in the same league as most of the CA posters: lame and not saying a whole lot besides "WTFPWND" and "FA are teh NUBS HAHAHAHAH"
Have a nice day.
Ahh A member of the Cowered and Hiding finally makes a appearance now that CA is gone from his territory. Where were your Precious Xanadu and BIG forces when CA was rampaging at WILL in FA? I know you were hiding behind all the Smaller corps racking in the ISK.

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The Reporter
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Posted - 2004.08.30 13:27:00 -
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Originally by: Yama Booshi
Originally by: Duke Droklar Lets see.
3- FA sends out a mail (which has been made public in another thread) which clearly orders all FA forces to huddle together in a single system and to not leave.
Besides all the blatant smear campaigning against FA by the CA there is one thing I keep seeing being used as 'fact' in the last few days by Duke, which is the above quote.
This mail was NOT sent out to all FA members as I am certain I never received it. (And upon checking with other FA members, they have not seen it either.)
So Duke, you take stuff you read on the forums as fact? As a person who is trying all he can to twist the truth in every post you make in an attempt to slander FA, you should know that facts are not presented here.
So please, do not use half facts or utter slander in your posts. I almost feel the need to end with "Get a clue", but that would put me in the same league as most of the CA posters: lame and not saying a whole lot besides "WTFPWND" and "FA are teh NUBS HAHAHAHAH"
Have a nice day.
Ahh A member of the Cowered and Hiding finally makes a appearance now that CA is gone from his territory. Where were your Precious Xanadu and BIG forces when CA was rampaging at WILL in FA? I know you were hiding behind all the Smaller corps racking in the ISK.

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Kcel Chim
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Posted - 2004.08.30 13:46:00 -
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Originally by: The Reporter
Ahh A member of the Cowered and Hiding finally makes a appearance now that CA is gone from his territory. Where were your Precious Xanadu and BIG forces when CA was rampaging at WILL in FA? I know you were hiding behind all the Smaller corps racking in the ISK.

Where were they? hmm lets see in yz killing CA ? Ive no idea where you were but in all battles xanadu pilots were present.... About flying through FA space at will, i suppose you mean d4ku. Yes we allow ppl to use d4ku from time to time at free will. Maybe the distance of 18 jumps to the next station (yz) and the close range to empire (1 jump) make it abit tiresom to move down there to see the enemy hide in aridia.
As much as your hatethreads are admired and your good work might find one day a few deluded supporters. Please try to mix atleast a few simple facts into it.
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Kcel Chim
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Posted - 2004.08.30 13:46:00 -
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Originally by: The Reporter
Ahh A member of the Cowered and Hiding finally makes a appearance now that CA is gone from his territory. Where were your Precious Xanadu and BIG forces when CA was rampaging at WILL in FA? I know you were hiding behind all the Smaller corps racking in the ISK.

Where were they? hmm lets see in yz killing CA ? Ive no idea where you were but in all battles xanadu pilots were present.... About flying through FA space at will, i suppose you mean d4ku. Yes we allow ppl to use d4ku from time to time at free will. Maybe the distance of 18 jumps to the next station (yz) and the close range to empire (1 jump) make it abit tiresom to move down there to see the enemy hide in aridia.
As much as your hatethreads are admired and your good work might find one day a few deluded supporters. Please try to mix atleast a few simple facts into it.
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Yama Booshi
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Posted - 2004.08.30 14:31:00 -
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Originally by: The Reporter Ahh A member of the Cowered and Hiding finally makes a appearance now that CA is gone from his territory. Where were your Precious Xanadu and BIG forces when CA was rampaging at WILL in FA? I know you were hiding behind all the Smaller corps racking in the ISK. [:evil:
Funny isn't it..
Do you guys got handed a template to post in? Maybe like so? :
Dear CA ebil forum warriors,
We have taken it upon us to try and weaken the FA by forum w***ing and we need you to participate! Please see below the things you have to include in your posts:
- Make sure to mention that BIG and Xan are ebil - Do not forget to mention CFS and how they are 'abused' - Don't bother with facts - If people start to make sense in a thread, take it offtopic and spam it to bits (then whine that the thread should be closed due to flaming ) - Call everyone besides CA carebears/nubs
Signed: CA head forum warrior.
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BTW, why do you feel the need to post with an alt? Weren't you guys totally against that? LMAO.
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Yama Booshi
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Posted - 2004.08.30 14:31:00 -
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Originally by: The Reporter Ahh A member of the Cowered and Hiding finally makes a appearance now that CA is gone from his territory. Where were your Precious Xanadu and BIG forces when CA was rampaging at WILL in FA? I know you were hiding behind all the Smaller corps racking in the ISK. [:evil:
Funny isn't it..
Do you guys got handed a template to post in? Maybe like so? :
Dear CA ebil forum warriors,
We have taken it upon us to try and weaken the FA by forum w***ing and we need you to participate! Please see below the things you have to include in your posts:
- Make sure to mention that BIG and Xan are ebil - Do not forget to mention CFS and how they are 'abused' - Don't bother with facts - If people start to make sense in a thread, take it offtopic and spam it to bits (then whine that the thread should be closed due to flaming ) - Call everyone besides CA carebears/nubs
Signed: CA head forum warrior.
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BTW, why do you feel the need to post with an alt? Weren't you guys totally against that? LMAO.
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The Reporter
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Posted - 2004.08.30 15:02:00 -
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Originally by: Yama Booshi
Originally by: The Reporter Ahh A member of the Cowered and Hiding finally makes a appearance now that CA is gone from his territory. Where were your Precious Xanadu and BIG forces when CA was rampaging at WILL in FA? I know you were hiding behind all the Smaller corps racking in the ISK. [:evil:
Funny isn't it..
Do you guys got handed a template to post in? Maybe like so? :
Dear CA ebil forum warriors,
We have taken it upon us to try and weaken the FA by forum w***ing and we need you to participate! Please see below the things you have to include in your posts:
- Make sure to mention that BIG and Xan are ebil - Do not forget to mention CFS and how they are 'abused' - Don't bother with facts - If people start to make sense in a thread, take it offtopic and spam it to bits (then whine that the thread should be closed due to flaming ) - Call everyone besides CA carebears/nubs
Signed: CA head forum warrior.
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BTW, why do you feel the need to post with an alt? Weren't you guys totally against that? LMAO.
Whats funnier is even if Xanadu pilots were present why do you and BIG only pat yourselves on the backs. Funny I never see a single post praising by NAME the countless other small corps that defended your precious interests. #2. I am a member of FA for your information and dont want to be kicked for my views Hence the ALT Posting character.
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The Reporter
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Posted - 2004.08.30 15:02:00 -
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Originally by: Yama Booshi
Originally by: The Reporter Ahh A member of the Cowered and Hiding finally makes a appearance now that CA is gone from his territory. Where were your Precious Xanadu and BIG forces when CA was rampaging at WILL in FA? I know you were hiding behind all the Smaller corps racking in the ISK. [:evil:
Funny isn't it..
Do you guys got handed a template to post in? Maybe like so? :
Dear CA ebil forum warriors,
We have taken it upon us to try and weaken the FA by forum w***ing and we need you to participate! Please see below the things you have to include in your posts:
- Make sure to mention that BIG and Xan are ebil - Do not forget to mention CFS and how they are 'abused' - Don't bother with facts - If people start to make sense in a thread, take it offtopic and spam it to bits (then whine that the thread should be closed due to flaming ) - Call everyone besides CA carebears/nubs
Signed: CA head forum warrior.
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BTW, why do you feel the need to post with an alt? Weren't you guys totally against that? LMAO.
Whats funnier is even if Xanadu pilots were present why do you and BIG only pat yourselves on the backs. Funny I never see a single post praising by NAME the countless other small corps that defended your precious interests. #2. I am a member of FA for your information and dont want to be kicked for my views Hence the ALT Posting character.
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Tristan
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Posted - 2004.08.30 15:03:00 -
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Originally by: Duke Droklar Name one other alliance that could consistantly field the military power that CA does given the enemy forces staged against us? Hell, name one that could even stand for a week against what CA battles every day, month after month.
I know of one who comes close Duke. The SA. Much as we love blowing each other up, they keep comming back, no matter what, on their own mostly. Respect for that SA.
Personally, the only PVPers in game (outside of CA) i have that level of respect for are:
SA/M0o-Evol-JF-Rkk/Rev0
Lets face it, CA/SA/M0o-Evol-JF-Rkk/Rev0 have done more fighting in this game than any other. Be it against each other or against 3rd parties. 
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Tristan
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Posted - 2004.08.30 15:03:00 -
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Originally by: Duke Droklar Name one other alliance that could consistantly field the military power that CA does given the enemy forces staged against us? Hell, name one that could even stand for a week against what CA battles every day, month after month.
I know of one who comes close Duke. The SA. Much as we love blowing each other up, they keep comming back, no matter what, on their own mostly. Respect for that SA.
Personally, the only PVPers in game (outside of CA) i have that level of respect for are:
SA/M0o-Evol-JF-Rkk/Rev0
Lets face it, CA/SA/M0o-Evol-JF-Rkk/Rev0 have done more fighting in this game than any other. Be it against each other or against 3rd parties. 
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Sphalerite
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Posted - 2004.08.30 15:36:00 -
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I love the schizophrenic CA position that CA are teh ebilest evar!! anytime someone questions their power, but FA are the evil overlords of EVE and everyone else are heroic underdogs with CA as Robin Hood when they happen to be talking to CFS/DSMA/STAR and the like.
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Sphalerite
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Posted - 2004.08.30 15:36:00 -
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I love the schizophrenic CA position that CA are teh ebilest evar!! anytime someone questions their power, but FA are the evil overlords of EVE and everyone else are heroic underdogs with CA as Robin Hood when they happen to be talking to CFS/DSMA/STAR and the like.
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DJTheBaron
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Posted - 2004.08.30 16:16:00 -
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fa lost control of their entire region, and their subordinate regions/alliances when ca came there
however in terms of finance fa are certanly top of the list, but as many people know a lot of those assets were obtained through dishonourable means __________________________________________________
Scum, your all scum. |

DJTheBaron
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Posted - 2004.08.30 16:16:00 -
[56]
fa lost control of their entire region, and their subordinate regions/alliances when ca came there
however in terms of finance fa are certanly top of the list, but as many people know a lot of those assets were obtained through dishonourable means __________________________________________________
Scum, your all scum. |

Reah
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Posted - 2004.08.30 16:45:00 -
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CA's knowledge of the fountain region's geography really just amase me.. 
you just cant control fountain without holding yz-lql! try looking at the map and you will see why..
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Reah
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Posted - 2004.08.30 16:45:00 -
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CA's knowledge of the fountain region's geography really just amase me.. 
you just cant control fountain without holding yz-lql! try looking at the map and you will see why..
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Procion
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Posted - 2004.08.30 16:47:00 -
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Quote: FA are the only major alliance still standing strong from the original 3 major alliances in the game - VA, FA and SA (CA came later).
FA was not one of the 1st alliances in game. it was open space for along while after SA formed
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Procion
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Posted - 2004.08.30 16:47:00 -
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Quote: FA are the only major alliance still standing strong from the original 3 major alliances in the game - VA, FA and SA (CA came later).
FA was not one of the 1st alliances in game. it was open space for along while after SA formed
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