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Iski Collector
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Posted - 2009.04.24 17:38:00 -
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Apocalypse BPC, ME 35, are readily available in Jita for 1.25-2.0 mil per run. Assuming the OP runs his new BPO to the same ME (CBA to find the efficient ME/PE for that blueprint), the research time would take something like 100 days (rough estimate). After 100 days of research, the OP can start popping out copies at around 1 per 12 hours (rough estimate again). So, assuming the generous price of 2 mil per BPC and (5)180 mil investors, it would take the OP a total of 100 days of research and 225 days of copying just to return the initial investment. 
Polaris Rome, please feel free to explain how any of my calculations are off. I admit that I know very little about manufacturing, but from where I'm sitting as a potential investor doing due diligence, there is NOTHING about your plan that makes any sense.
You've already revealed your entire business plan. It's time to provide real numbers to prove your plan works.
Or, just admit that it was a scam and move on. 
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Polaris Rome
Minmatar
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Posted - 2009.04.24 17:43:00 -
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it will take me more like 30 days to get the research done (full skills and Private POS)
The copying is only gouing to take around 30 - 40 days so within 2 months (hopefully less) everyone will have thier investment returned.
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HawkBlade
Minmatar
The Higher Standard
Virtue of Selfishness
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Posted - 2009.04.24 17:54:00 -
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 Originally by: Polaris Rome
it will take me more like 30 days to get the research done (full skills and Private POS)
The copying is only gouing to take around 30 - 40 days so within 2 months (hopefully less) everyone will have thier investment returned.
Well there you go folks. Scam or not, the op simple doesn't know the business he's trying to get into.
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Kalrand
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Posted - 2009.04.24 18:03:00 -
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Originally by: HawkBlade
Originally by: Polaris Rome
it will take me more like 30 days to get the research done (full skills and Private POS)
The copying is only gouing to take around 30 - 40 days so within 2 months (hopefully less) everyone will have thier investment returned.
Well there you go folks. Scam or not, the op simple doesn't know the business he's trying to get into.
Actually, I think the problem is that he merely thinks delivering a ~5ME, full run, single BPC, is worth 150 mil to an investor. Oh, and no return of principal, since he wants to keep the BPO.
You really should just buy BPCs if you want to get into small production. I looked into it at one point; liquidating the BPO should allow you to return principal in the end, but unless you get an already researched BPO on the market, it doesn't pay off well enough in a short period of time.
Getting into full blown BS production out in 0.0? It can be worth doing if you really want to ensure you a constant supply of BPCs for you most popular model(s) at a known cost.
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Vested Interest
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Posted - 2009.04.24 18:10:00 -
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I thought this guys name sounded familiar
Originally by: Polaris Rome
Recently i have made 32.5 bill. I am giving away 10 bill in isk. If you send em isk i will double it. Any isk sent to me can be done via contract or via wallet it is your choice. This is a one time offer and you only get one chance.
Convo if interested.
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HawkBlade
Minmatar
The Higher Standard
Virtue of Selfishness
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Posted - 2009.04.24 18:14:00 -
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Originally by: Vested Interest
I thought this guys name sounded familiar
Darn you. I wanted to see how long we could keep him investing time and energy into this.... darn you twice and thrice!!! 
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Majorpubes
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Posted - 2009.04.24 21:52:00 -
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This is an epic read that pretty much explains how this will turn out....
http://www.wirm.net/nightfreeze/part1.html
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Ebolak
Vengeance Asset Relocation
Tear Extraction And Reclamation Service
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Posted - 2009.04.24 21:53:00 -
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Edited by: Ebolak on 24/04/2009 21:54:17
Originally by: Majorpubes
This is an epic read that pretty much explains how this will turn out....
http://www.wirm.net/nightfreeze/part1.html
Sorry haveing a problem with my Pubes trying to be the main again
Would one of you kind gentlemen make this a link i still cant....
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Iski Collector
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Posted - 2009.04.24 22:39:00 -
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4/10 read, but the relevance to this thread is 12/10. Great find! 
The TL;DR - scammer forms a corp to buy an Apocalypse BPO (after contributing 180M of his own money)
http://www.wirm.net/nightfreeze/part1.html
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Majorpubes
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Posted - 2009.04.24 23:12:00 -
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I read the story of that scam four months ago, and it looks like the OP read the same story
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Bad Bobby
Ugly Toys
Zzz
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Posted - 2009.04.24 23:26:00 -
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Well, that one's been dealt with... Next!
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Ricdic
Caldari
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Posted - 2009.04.24 23:47:00 -
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Here is the original Nightfreeze scam story for anyone wanting a read.
Probably known as the first and largest scam in Eve in it's time. Back in 2003 1 billion isk was a phenomenal amount of cash. Just owning a 100m battleship was the equivalent of a Titan or mothership pilot today. |
PublicRelations Kwint
Lothian Quay Industries
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Posted - 2009.04.25 00:33:00 -
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Originally by: Vested Interest
I thought this guys name sounded familiar
What the hell, I actually got him to respond to a long series of questions, Shar and a few others were helping to continue stringing him along and you had to ruin it? Just like that, just point out that he's a scammer? You could have at least made an ambiguous reference to try to keep him going but no...now he'll just go back to spamming Jita local. 
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ingenting
20th Legion
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Posted - 2009.04.25 01:26:00 -
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Edited by: ingenting on 25/04/2009 01:27:14
Quality thread.
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EVEHelpisSeriousBusiness
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Posted - 2009.04.25 02:37:00 -
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poasting in what was once a comedy goldmine.
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Kazzac Elentria
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Posted - 2009.04.25 03:36:00 -
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Almost as good as the Cosmoray revenge on the scammer.
..almost, missed it by like .1 %
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Scott Ryder
Amarr
Ministry of War
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Posted - 2009.04.25 09:34:00 -
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Originally by: Ricdic
Here is the original Nightfreeze scam story for anyone wanting a read.
Probably known as the first and largest scam in Eve in it's time. Back in 2003 1 billion isk was a phenomenal amount of cash. Just owning a 100m battleship was the equivalent of a Titan or mothership pilot today.
Good read, recomended.
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Bad Bobby
Ugly Toys
Zzz
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Posted - 2009.04.25 10:54:00 -
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Originally by: Ricdic
Here is the original Nightfreeze scam story for anyone wanting a read.
Probably known as the first and largest scam in Eve in it's time. Back in 2003 1 billion isk was a phenomenal amount of cash. Just owning a 100m battleship was the equivalent of a Titan or mothership pilot today.
That story was the thing that persuaded me to sign up to eve in the first place
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ingenting
20th Legion
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Posted - 2009.04.25 15:39:00 -
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Originally by: Bad Bobby
Originally by: Ricdic
Here is the original Nightfreeze scam story for anyone wanting a read.
Probably known as the first and largest scam in Eve in it's time. Back in 2003 1 billion isk was a phenomenal amount of cash. Just owning a 100m battleship was the equivalent of a Titan or mothership pilot today.
That story was the thing that persuaded me to sign up to eve in the first place
same here :D
too bad the tutorials was so utterly CRAP back then, i didnt get my head around them and gave up :P
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MilowFV
Echo Heavy Industries
Novus Ordo Mundi
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Posted - 2009.04.25 23:44:00 -
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I am kind of shock after he said this wasn't a scam he didn't get investors though.
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Polaris Rome
Minmatar
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Posted - 2009.04.26 17:40:00 -
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gotta love the idiocy of some people
So you ALL Believe that once you are something you are always that something. No matter what you do or say nothing changs that.
So BASICALLY your all Prejudice then.
Plus most of you OBVIOUSLY dont play EVE but Forum EVE instead.
and i will end on that note.
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Estel Arador
Minmatar
Estel Arador Corp Services
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Posted - 2009.04.26 17:42:00 -
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Originally by: Polaris Rome
gotta love the idiocy of some people
So you ALL Believe that once you are something you are always that something. No matter what you do or say nothing changs that.
So BASICALLY your all Prejudice then.
Plus most of you OBVIOUSLY dont play EVE but Forum EVE instead.
and i will end on that note.
This thread keeps on delivering
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HawkBlade
Minmatar
The Higher Standard
Virtue of Selfishness
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Posted - 2009.04.26 17:51:00 -
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Originally by: Polaris Rome
gotta love the idiocy of some people
Funny you should point that out but I guess even an idiot will develop some self love. Kudos to being honest about your lack of intellect Originally by: Polaris Rome
So you ALL Believe that once you are something you are always that something. No matter what you do or say nothing changs that.
Yeah, because it was so long ago in your past. Originally by: Polaris Rome
and i will end on that note.
Prove yourself a man of your word, follow through on ending yourself. PS: Failed scammer tears are only beat by Scammed scammer's tears. I've come into 20 billion isk and you're leaving. If you send me some isk I'll send you 1/10th back. Not a scam! Promise!!!1111oneoneoneeleventyone
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MailDeadDrop
Globaltech Industries
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Posted - 2009.04.27 01:12:00 -
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Originally by: HawkBlade
I've come into 20 billion isk and you're leaving. If you send me some isk I'll send you 1/10th back. Not a scam! Promise!!!1111oneoneoneeleventyone
This guy seems legit. ISK sent; let's see if he is a man of his word. :-)
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Hazlock
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Posted - 2009.04.27 15:58:00 -
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Originally by: ingenting
same here :D
too bad the tutorials was so utterly CRAP back then, i didnt get my head around them and gave up :P
Haha exactly the same story as me
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