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Mr LaboratoryRat
Confederation of DuckTape Lovers
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Posted - 2009.04.26 11:37:00 -
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It would be much more fun too know that u just podded a guy with a full set of snake's in isnt it?
Would this be possible with the current game mechanics?
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TuRtLe HeAd
KrayZ Inc Arcane Alliance
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Posted - 2009.04.26 11:42:00 -
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/signed
Theres probably a reason why its not been ingame since implants have been in game but it should really be in game..... Technically if They Add implants to killmails they would have to add corpse harvesting to get the implants that survived....
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NightF0x
Gallente Intergalactic League of Terrorists
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Posted - 2009.04.26 11:55:00 -
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I ask why do you need to know, other than increasing your e-peen more? ------------------------------------
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Hariya
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Posted - 2009.04.26 12:10:00 -
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Originally by: TuRtLe HeAd /signed
Theres probably a reason why its not been ingame since implants have been in game but it should really be in game..... Technically if They Add implants to killmails they would have to add corpse harvesting to get the implants that survived....
That would be perfect way to ensure that no one ever comes to low sec again.
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Robert Caldera
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Posted - 2009.04.26 12:12:00 -
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Edited by: Robert Caldera on 26/04/2009 12:14:07
Originally by: NightF0x I ask why do you need to know, other than increasing your e-peen more?
e-peens are everywhere in the game, tbh even you have one.
What is the point of receiving the victims fitting at all??? Because its nice to know what you've destroyed, so why should the implants be different from that, they can have an immense impact on the battle result like any other module.
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Hariya
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Posted - 2009.04.26 12:48:00 -
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Originally by: Robert Caldera Edited by: Robert Caldera on 26/04/2009 12:14:07
Originally by: NightF0x I ask why do you need to know, other than increasing your e-peen more?
e-peens are everywhere in the game, tbh even you have one.
What is the point of receiving the victims fitting at all??? Because its nice to know what you've destroyed, so why should the implants be different from that, they can have an immense impact on the battle result like any other module.
You hit the point pretty perfectly. That's why the fittings should be removed completely from killmails.
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NightF0x
Gallente Intergalactic League of Terrorists
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Posted - 2009.04.26 14:34:00 -
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Originally by: Hariya
Originally by: Robert Caldera Edited by: Robert Caldera on 26/04/2009 12:14:07
Originally by: NightF0x I ask why do you need to know, other than increasing your e-peen more?
e-peens are everywhere in the game, tbh even you have one.
What is the point of receiving the victims fitting at all??? Because its nice to know what you've destroyed, so why should the implants be different from that, they can have an immense impact on the battle result like any other module.
You hit the point pretty perfectly. That's why the fittings should be removed completely from killmails.
or just remove kill mails completely and be done with it. ------------------------------------
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Robert Caldera
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Posted - 2009.04.26 16:36:00 -
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Edited by: Robert Caldera on 26/04/2009 16:38:35 Edited by: Robert Caldera on 26/04/2009 16:38:01 collecting trophies (aka e-peen) is important for players and a part of mostly every game out there. Having hurt a guy for a 2 Mrd. imp set is an especially nice trophy.
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Hariya
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Posted - 2009.04.26 16:44:00 -
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Originally by: Robert Caldera Edited by: Robert Caldera on 26/04/2009 16:38:35 Edited by: Robert Caldera on 26/04/2009 16:38:01 collecting trophies (aka e-peen) is important for players and a part of mostly every game out there. Having hurt a guy for a 2 Mrd. imp set is an especially nice trophy.
You hit the point perfectly again. That's why low sec is so quiet and 9/10 of the player base love it in Empire. Jerks hunting for trophies all around in low sec
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Kassa Daito
Survey Group 1 Infused Alliance
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Posted - 2009.04.26 16:57:00 -
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Originally by: Hariya
Originally by: Robert Caldera Edited by: Robert Caldera on 26/04/2009 16:38:35 Edited by: Robert Caldera on 26/04/2009 16:38:01 collecting trophies (aka e-peen) is important for players and a part of mostly every game out there. Having hurt a guy for a 2 Mrd. imp set is an especially nice trophy.
You hit the point perfectly again. That's why low sec is so quiet and 9/10 of the player base love it in Empire. Jerks hunting for trophies all around in low sec
/agree
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Robert Caldera
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Posted - 2009.04.26 18:04:00 -
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Edited by: Robert Caldera on 26/04/2009 18:07:30 lowsec? wtf? You're offtopic. It does not matter where you get your trophies and what form of trophies(depends on what you're doing in the game), killmail is only one of them. Anothers are ISK, ships, faction items - whatever people like to look at after playing.
So we have a topic on killmails here and it does make sense to show all modules killed in battle(implants are modules too).
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Hariya
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Posted - 2009.04.26 19:37:00 -
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Originally by: Robert Caldera So we have a topic on killmails here and it does make sense to show all modules killed in battle(implants are modules too).
It does not make any sense to have killmails as a feature in the game in the first place, for aforementioned reason, let alone further enhance them.
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Robert Caldera
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Posted - 2009.04.26 20:14:00 -
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Edited by: Robert Caldera on 26/04/2009 20:15:22 it does not make sense exactly why?? Its a feature used by many people, a evidence it makes sense.
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Ruze Ahkor'Murkon
Amarr No Applicable Corporation
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Posted - 2009.04.26 20:14:00 -
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Edited by: Ruze Ahkor''Murkon on 26/04/2009 20:15:35 I support the removal of killmails entirely. In it's stead, I support mails which inform the player who was destroyed, what he's lost.
Sending what I lost to my enemy? Makes no ****ing sense.
Edit: And if you want trophies, collect corpses. That's the way it used to be, and it's a pretty nice hobby.
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Verys
The Black Ops Black Core Alliance
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Posted - 2009.04.26 20:27:00 -
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I don't get why you should point and laugh at the guy because he lost as you give as an example a full snake set. What's point, so you killed him big deal people die on a daily base it's not because you killed a player with a full snake set your suddenly the most awesome pvper in eve.
This is all about e-peen and thus I wouldn't count on any support.
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Pellit1
Caldari Bushwhackers Rough Necks
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Posted - 2009.04.27 00:15:00 -
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I agree with the motion of adding implants to killmails - don't see any reason why they're NOT there as has been aforementioned, we recieve ship fits on ship killmails.
/signed
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Darth Felin
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Posted - 2009.04.27 10:41:00 -
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/not signed It won't make EvE better.
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Astria Tiphareth
Caldari 24th Imperial Crusade
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Posted - 2009.04.27 10:46:00 -
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No support for perfect intel. Do your own intelligence work if you wish to gauge impact on the enemy. It's bad enough that killmails give fitting info for all to see.
Intel war is part of the game, as is propaganda. Neither of these are possible with perfect information available to both sides. ___ My views may not represent those of my corporation, which is why I never get invited to those diplomatic parties... Environmental Effects
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Jeanine Brown
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Posted - 2009.04.27 11:29:00 -
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Well, the logical way to go would be to only show the survived items on the killmail (for destroyed ships) For corpses and implants, I support the idea to "harvest implants". But to follow the logic (again), you don't get a killmail for killing a corpse, you get it for destroying the pod. Thus, one should not get the implants listed on killmail.
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5pinDizzy
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Posted - 2009.04.27 11:45:00 -
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Edited by: 5pinDizzy on 27/04/2009 11:49:18
Originally by: Jeanine Brown Well, the logical way to go would be to only show the survived items on the killmail (for destroyed ships) For corpses and implants, I support the idea to "harvest implants". But to follow the logic (again), you don't get a killmail for killing a corpse, you get it for destroying the pod. Thus, one should not get the implants listed on killmail.
I shall sign your idea and philosophy instead as it sounds better to me.
Never made a great deal of sense to me why you could find out an entire ship fitting when it got fried for saying you couldn't even find out when intact unless you scanned it.
I think there's enough scoffing people do at each other on fittings on killmails don't want the kiddy killboard smack expanded to implants too.
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Whitehound
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Posted - 2009.04.27 13:55:00 -
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/signed
Let people see what damage they cause to others. -- If there is anything in your life you fear of losing, then keep your mouth shut once in a while. |
Robert Caldera
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Posted - 2009.04.27 14:03:00 -
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yes
The ships killed list all modules/cargo being destroyed/dropped, why not pods?
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Hariya
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Posted - 2009.04.27 20:01:00 -
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Originally by: Robert Caldera Edited by: Robert Caldera on 26/04/2009 20:15:22 it does not make sense exactly why?? Its a feature used by many people, a evidence it makes sense.
a) Read the previous posts before posting. b) Argumentum ad populum. Although 900 billion flies absolutely love eating ****, it probably isn't good food m'kay
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Whitehound
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Posted - 2009.04.27 21:58:00 -
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Edited by: Whitehound on 27/04/2009 21:58:26 In addition:
If courier cargo gets destroyed then it shall list the lost collateral, too.
As much as the OP may suck when he wants to see all the gory details of his kill does it put the numbers into the face of the criminals.
One day they will feel guilty about it!
... or when they get their own losses told. -- If there is anything in your life you fear of losing, then keep your mouth shut once in a while. |
waruiushiro
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Posted - 2009.04.27 22:19:00 -
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Edited by: waruiushiro on 27/04/2009 22:24:33 Edited by: waruiushiro on 27/04/2009 22:21:56
Originally by: Hariya
Originally by: Robert Caldera Edited by: Robert Caldera on 26/04/2009 20:15:22 it does not make sense exactly why?? Its a feature used by many people, a evidence it makes sense.
a) Read the previous posts before posting. b) Argumentum ad populum. Although 900 billion flies absolutely love eating ****, it probably isn't good food m'kay
You're just embarrassed by your comedy lossmails, the same reason why any worthless carebear opposes the idea of KMs. There are some valid intel reasons, but that's why you don't just fly one version of a ship and it's the penalty you get for dying.
Yes, have implants lost shown. Why? Because we want to know. I gave a recon pilot his first-ever posted pod death last night. I suspect hilarious implant loss, but suspicion is only so much fun.
At least give us the ability to see the implants on the corpse info. Posting it is not necessary, I just want to know if it's an empty head going squish or a head full of the billions.
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Mr LaboratoryRat
Confederation of DuckTape Lovers
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Posted - 2009.04.28 11:55:00 -
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up
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Ariane VoxDei
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Posted - 2009.04.28 12:36:00 -
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No.
It is bad enough that you can see what modules were destroyed. They were destroyed = makes it fairly difficult to see what was there.
At least with those that were dropped (and surviving cargo) it can be justified that the perp knows, since they were not destroyed and the perp(s) were on the scene to see what was left.
I would recommend that this is removed from the killmail as well. If you want to know, go look in the wreck.
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Hariya
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Posted - 2009.04.28 15:40:00 -
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It's bad for realism, that's the real reason. Nothing bad in game world not obeying all laws of logic, but it's baffling that you expect there to be reliably identifiable remains after you shoot a ship, or pod kill someone, using those mighty big weapons. Plus, some people genuinely act lame in-game thanks to the existence of killmails.
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Sturdy Girl
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Posted - 2009.04.28 15:44:00 -
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Originally by: Hariya Plus, some people genuinely act lame in-game thanks to the existence of killmails.
I don't think the existance of killmails makes any difference to genuine lamers. They're lame regardless, and to blame the killmail is inaccurate.
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waruiushiro
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Posted - 2009.04.28 15:57:00 -
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Unrealistic? Ever seen a corpse in space? Slightly charred, still pretty intact. The fact that the corpse has not been vaporized requires the suspension of disbelief, but that's another issue.
For seeing implants being unrealistic... we'd be able to scan a corpse and figure out which implants were there with 21st century technology. Last time I checked EVE was in the future.
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