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Ms Delerium
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Posted - 2009.04.27 11:15:00 -
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23/7 traders, macros, farmers, and other obsessive people obviously not.
But now I mean real players:
- What if we would be given ships and items from experience points. Such as combat points, or as a result of a whatever other relation with other player.
- What if we could fight 3x times a day with a random guy, even in high sec.
- and others
I think we would enjoy a lot without the big effort that grinding suppose. Lets face it: mining, missioning and others are extreme boredom for the average player.
"But the economic system is nice!" k I totally agree. What about 1day a week of isk freedom??? In other words, remove isk!! 
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Reven Cordelle
Caldari
Yamainu-Mirai Heavy Industries
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Posted - 2009.04.27 11:20:00 -
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Odd.
Well, no ISK means a good HALF of the game rendered completely irrelevant.
Leaving only PVP really.
And you should know by even being on the forums for a week that there are a lot of people who don't give a flying foie gras about PVP.
So yes. Remove ISK, Kill Game.
Good idea.
EVE is dying etcetc.
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mechtech
Entropy Industries
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Posted - 2009.04.27 11:20:00 -
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For me the answer is no.
I primarily play the game to make isk, that's my chosen pursuit in eve. Simply put, if you take isk out of the game, eve dies for me, and many others.
Do you think that everyone who doesn't solely PvP isn't a "real player"? There's more ways to make isk than grinding (mining, missioning, ect). Trading is a huge part of eve, and... Wait, I really shouldn't be spending time on this question...
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Hinata Hyuga
The Society of Innovation
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Posted - 2009.04.27 11:23:00 -
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This has to be the dumbest thing I have ever read on the forum o.O
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Kaidem
Minmatar
Black Rebellion
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Posted - 2009.04.27 11:23:00 -
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 Originally by: Reven Cordelle
Odd.
So yes. Remove ISK, Kill Game.
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Franga
NQX Innovations
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Posted - 2009.04.27 11:25:00 -
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Originally by: Hinata Hyuga
This has to be the dumbest thing I have ever read on the forum o.O
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Chribba
Otherworld Enterprises
Otherworld Empire
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Posted - 2009.04.27 11:28:00 -
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Or just drop the whole MMO aspect and make it a pure solo-offline universe, that should kill all the evil bots and macroers.
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Malcanis
Vanishing Point.
The Initiative.
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Posted - 2009.04.27 11:31:00 -
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Originally by: mechtech
For me the answer is no.
I primarily play the game to make isk, that's my chosen pursuit in eve. Simply put, if you take isk out of the game, eve dies for me, and many others.
Do you think that everyone who doesn't solely PvP isn't a "real player"? There's more ways to make isk than grinding (mining, missioning, ect). Trading is a huge part of eve, and... Wait, I really shouldn't be spending time on this question...
You do PvP. Just not with guns.
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Tippia
Raddick Explorations
BlackWater.
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Posted - 2009.04.27 11:32:00 -
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Seeing as how the economy is what ultimately drives the entire game… no.
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you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.”
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Rodj Blake
Amarr
PIE Inc.
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Posted - 2009.04.27 11:32:00 -
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Removing ISK would be as fundamental a change as removing the spaceships.
Dulce et decorum est pro imperium mori.
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5pinDizzy
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Posted - 2009.04.27 11:33:00 -
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I actually think it's a good idea in some respects, but it fails because it isn't going to stop anything.
Take away the currency and the items in the barter trade become the currency.
Macroers will amass items instead of isk.
Traders will just sell the items for real money.
If you removed the market you'll still get item exchange spams in local.
Nothing really changes that much I think, unless you can put another twist on it.
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Akita T
Caldari Navy Volunteer Task Force
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Posted - 2009.04.27 11:34:00 -
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What if you would join a player corp/alliance that replaces your PVP losses in ops on behalf of the corp/alliance ?
You get pretty much the same end-effect.
EVE issues|Mining revamp|Build stuff|Make ISK |
Joe
Umbra Legion
Shadow Empire.
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Posted - 2009.04.27 11:36:00 -
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Originally by: Rodj Blake
Removing ISK would be as fundamental a change as removing the spaceships.
oh do you mean if we were all walking around in stations instead?
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The Riddik
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Posted - 2009.04.27 11:41:00 -
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where are all these crazy people coming from?
there should be some sort of one time challenge question to weed all the idiots ouf of eve, cauze omwtfgawd, gen discussion is full of gumps nowdays.
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Reven Cordelle
Caldari
Yamainu-Mirai Heavy Industries
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Posted - 2009.04.27 12:03:00 -
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Originally by: Joe
Originally by: Rodj Blake
Removing ISK would be as fundamental a change as removing the spaceships.
oh do you mean if we were all walking around in stations instead?
You've overlooked the business opportunities that stations will bring.
Gambling, for instance. Now theres a lucrative business entirely based on the transit of ISK.
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Mish'Kala
Minmatar
FarSight Location and Recovery Services
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Posted - 2009.04.27 12:08:00 -
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If you removed ISK and made a different mechanism to purchase 'stuffs' the different mechanism becomes equated to isk. So you make a big hooharr, and actually end up back at the beginning.
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Asael
Caldari
Caldari Independent Navy Reserve
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Posted - 2009.04.27 13:03:00 -
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Somehow, that concept sounds familiar Miss Delerium.
I know of a online game that allows you just that. Been playing some mybrute, have you? 
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Rakshasa Taisab
Caldari
Sane Industries Inc.
United Freemen Alliance
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Posted - 2009.04.27 13:04:00 -
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So... Uhmm.... You're saying we'll be using Veldspar as the common currency?
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Dark Soldat
Caldari
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Posted - 2009.04.27 13:05:00 -
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Originally by: Asael
Somehow, that concept sounds familiar Miss Delerium.
I know of a online game that allows you just that. Been playing some mybrute, have you?
Your signature is too large. Please resize it to a maximum of 400 x 120 with the file size not exceeding 24000 bytes.-Applebabe
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Scott Ryder
Amarr
Ministry of War
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Posted - 2009.04.27 13:13:00 -
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Originally by: Ms Delerium
23/7 traders, macros, farmers, and other obsessive people obviously not.
But now I mean real players:
- What if we would be given ships and items from experience points. Such as combat points, or as a result of a whatever other relation with other player.
- What if we could fight 3x times a day with a random guy, even in high sec.
- and others
I think we would enjoy a lot without the big effort that grinding suppose. Lets face it: mining, missioning and others are extreme boredom for the average player.
"But the economic system is nice!" k I totally agree. What about 1day a week of isk freedom??? In other words, remove isk!!
Why do you keep starting theese threads?
Eve is fine as it is.
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Martin Mckenna
D00M.
Triumvirate.
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Posted - 2009.04.27 13:18:00 -
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Edited by: Martin Mckenna on 27/04/2009 13:19:19
Unlike other MMOs the entire game revolves around Isk. It consumes every aspect of the game and even though im 90% of the time under 100million its what keep EVE, EVE.
If you want to try EVE without Isk think of the test server. Is that realy what you want?
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Matrix Skye
Caldari
State War Academy
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Posted - 2009.04.27 13:59:00 -
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Edited by: Matrix Skye on 27/04/2009 14:02:32
Originally by: Malcanis
Originally by: mechtech
For me the answer is no.
I primarily play the game to make isk, that's my chosen pursuit in eve. Simply put, if you take isk out of the game, eve dies for me, and many others.
Do you think that everyone who doesn't solely PvP isn't a "real player"? There's more ways to make isk than grinding (mining, missioning, ect). Trading is a huge part of eve, and... Wait, I really shouldn't be spending time on this question...
You do PvP. Just not with guns.
This is true. And I think mechtech knows this (correct me if I'm wrong). I think everyone pretty much understands this to be true. But the OP is referring to combat PVP. When stupid ideas like these spring up it can only be assumed its a hardcore "if-you-dont-combat-PVP-you're-doing-it-wrong!1!" player. You know, a "REAL" player like the OP  .
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Spurty
Caldari
Amok.
Minor Threat.
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Posted - 2009.04.27 13:59:00 -
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This is EVE we're talking about, not Star Fleet!
The risk in the game comes from the effort of making the isk (ok, for 10% of eve, its no effort at all, but we don't ever care about the rich, in games or out) so remove the isk from risk and all you have is 'RRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR' which is actually, the sound of people leaving the game.
Originally by: Infinity Ziona
Thus I AM BETTER THAN YOU.
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Grek Forto
Malevolent Intentions
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Posted - 2009.04.27 14:04:00 -
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Originally by: Stitcher
It's "Caldari", not "Caldarians". One Caldari, three Caldari, all the Caldari are doing Caldari things using Caldari tools in a Caldari way.
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Dzil
Caldari
Tritanium Science and Research
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Posted - 2009.04.27 14:11:00 -
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Originally by: Ms Delerium
23/7 traders, macros, farmers, and other obsessive people obviously not.
But now I mean real players:
- What if we would be given ships and items from experience points. Such as combat points, or as a result of a whatever other relation with other player.
- What if we could fight 3x times a day with a random guy, even in high sec.
- and others
I think we would enjoy a lot without the big effort that grinding suppose. Lets face it: mining, missioning and others are extreme boredom for the average player.
"But the economic system is nice!" k I totally agree. What about 1day a week of isk freedom??? In other words, remove isk!!
EVE without an economy is basically describing the singularity server, if I'm not mistaken. Everything costs 1 isk.
It's great if you want inconsiquential PVP using the EVE mechanics.
It also completely defeats the purpose of having a persistent world, if everything in it is meaningless.
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SpaceSquirrels
Caldari
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Posted - 2009.04.27 14:22:00 -
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Hippy Talk!!
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Slapchop Gonnalovemynuts
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Posted - 2009.04.27 14:58:00 -
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Originally by: Ms Delerium
...silly words...
So what you are saying is...
That you want TF2/CSS in spaces?
EVE is not a 'jump in a shoot everything' game like those. EVE is a living breathing world. Without an economy this game would disappear faster than a snowball in the Sahara.
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wickedpheonix
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Posted - 2009.04.27 15:31:00 -
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Originally by: Hinata Hyuga
This has to be the dumbest thing I have ever read on the forum o.O
+1
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Battleclash
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Posted - 2009.04.27 15:45:00 -
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This is an experiment that needs vital testing. Send me all your isk and tell us how you feel in the following week.
Originally by: Vladimir Ilych
Stupidity is universal.
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Illwill Bill
Svea Rike
Southern Cross Alliance
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Posted - 2009.04.27 15:52:00 -
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Originally by: Chribba
Or just drop the whole MMO aspect and make it a pure solo-offline universe, that should kill all the evil bots and macroers.
They already did that.
Originally by: CCP Zulupark
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