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Kaidem
Minmatar Black Rebellion
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Posted - 2009.04.28 15:16:00 -
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Surpised there isn't already a thread here about this tbh. So AirForce One, the US Presidents jumbo jet is flying over NYC for a photo shoot along with a fighter jet flying in formation. Problem is that the majority of people in the city didn't know it was planned thus causing mass panic as many people seemed to think it was going to be a repeat of 9/11. Obama wasn't on the plane and it's said that he didn't know anything about the photo shoot, Mayor of New York also said he didn't know about it either.
The only people who were informed prior to the flight was the police "although I think it was probably just a message passed onto them so most officers probably didn't know it was going to happen" and the folks who control the aerospace also were informed. I just don't understand why the hell they wouldn't have the flight mentioned on the local news channels, radio and papers that day. All they have achieved it seems is mass panic, buildings evacuated, people running in the street and high blood pressure for a lot of people .
Sad thing is, if they had done it properly then the publicity would have been a damn good message to the extremists who supported 9/11, like saying "you hurt us but we are still standing stronger than ever" type thing. Instead we got news footage and youtube vids of people being terrified, the extremists will be having a good laugh right now. .
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Onus Mian
Amarr Kingfisher Industries
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Posted - 2009.04.28 15:18:00 -
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Haha ----
Isn't it enough to see that a garden is beautiful without having to believe that there are fairies at the bottom of it too? - Douglas Adams
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Reven Cordelle
Caldari Yamainu-Mirai Heavy Industries
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Posted - 2009.04.28 15:24:00 -
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Probably not the best idea, eh.
Kinda just shows you that the governments couldn't give a flying fedo about how the citizens percieve things.
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Kaidem
Minmatar Black Rebellion
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Posted - 2009.04.28 15:27:00 -
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Originally by: Reven Cordelle Probably not the best idea, eh.
Kinda just shows you that the governments couldn't give a flying fedo about how the citizens percieve things.
Well when it was mentioned on the news Obama was described as being "furious" and I think he will be kicking some butt over what happened, feel quite sorry for him tbh as he must be embarrased aswell as angry over it. .
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Karrade Krise
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Posted - 2009.04.28 15:34:00 -
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Edited by: Karrade Krise on 28/04/2009 15:34:38 Good thing there was an F-16 on it's tail for you know..."just in case"
:P
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Jacob Mei
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Posted - 2009.04.28 15:57:00 -
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I hope whoever planned this gets a kick in the nuts as hes thrown out the door. NYC is still reeling from 9/11 that many people thought the plane that entered the river several months back on an emergancy landing was a 9/11 repeat. Seriously, you have to be stone stupid to not go "hmm, maybe the NYC residents might have an issue with this?" -------------------------------- To borrow a phrase:
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Jacque Custeau
Knights of the Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2009.04.28 15:57:00 -
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Originally by: Karrade Krise Edited by: Karrade Krise on 28/04/2009 15:34:38 Good thing there was an F-16 on it's tail for you know..."just in case"
:P
The fighter was taking pictures of the plane. Panic aside, I can't understand why they would waste time and fuel just to take some new pictures of the jet for the the white house gift store. No one told these guys about photoshop? -------------------
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Micheal Dietrich
Caldari
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Posted - 2009.04.28 16:08:00 -
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The president better remember to take lots of chapstick with him when he goes to NY to apologize because he's gonna have a lot of puckering to do.
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Xen Gin
Solar Excavations Ultd. Black Sun Alliance
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Posted - 2009.04.28 16:14:00 -
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Edited by: Xen Gin on 28/04/2009 16:13:58 I very much doubt that some one in the NY Majors office or the local government didn't know about this. I'd imagine that after the previous events, a lot of safeguards are in place.
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Onus Mian
Amarr Kingfisher Industries
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Posted - 2009.04.28 16:15:00 -
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Originally by: Jacque Custeau
Originally by: Karrade Krise Edited by: Karrade Krise on 28/04/2009 15:34:38 Good thing there was an F-16 on it's tail for you know..."just in case"
:P
The fighter was taking pictures of the plane. Panic aside, I can't understand why they would waste time and fuel just to take some new pictures of the jet for the the white house gift store. No one told these guys about photoshop?
It also makes it look like the fighter is preparing the shoot the plane down which probably reinforced the belief that muslims where going to fly into a building again. ----
Isn't it enough to see that a garden is beautiful without having to believe that there are fairies at the bottom of it too? - Douglas Adams
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Xen Gin
Solar Excavations Ultd. Black Sun Alliance
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Posted - 2009.04.28 16:18:00 -
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Originally by: Onus Mian
Originally by: Jacque Custeau
Originally by: Karrade Krise Edited by: Karrade Krise on 28/04/2009 15:34:38 Good thing there was an F-16 on it's tail for you know..."just in case"
:P
The fighter was taking pictures of the plane. Panic aside, I can't understand why they would waste time and fuel just to take some new pictures of the jet for the the white house gift store. No one told these guys about photoshop?
It also makes it look like the fighter is preparing the shoot the plane down which probably reinforced the belief that muslims where going to fly into a building again.
Waited way too long to shoot it down then didn't they. I think NYers have just seemed to let terrorism get the better of them.
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Kaidem
Minmatar Black Rebellion
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Posted - 2009.04.28 16:21:00 -
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Originally by: Xen Gin Edited by: Xen Gin on 28/04/2009 16:13:58 I very much doubt that some one in the NY Majors office or the local government didn't know about this. I'd imagine that after the previous events, a lot of safeguards are in place.
Well sofar from what has been said the Mayor didn't know untill it happened. The people behind this screwup had allegedly informed the police and the folks who control the aerospace, so basically getting through the safety measures. .
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Onus Mian
Amarr Kingfisher Industries
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Posted - 2009.04.28 16:21:00 -
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Originally by: Xen Gin
Originally by: Onus Mian
Originally by: Jacque Custeau
Originally by: Karrade Krise Edited by: Karrade Krise on 28/04/2009 15:34:38 Good thing there was an F-16 on it's tail for you know..."just in case"
:P
The fighter was taking pictures of the plane. Panic aside, I can't understand why they would waste time and fuel just to take some new pictures of the jet for the the white house gift store. No one told these guys about photoshop?
It also makes it look like the fighter is preparing the shoot the plane down which probably reinforced the belief that muslims where going to fly into a building again.
Waited way too long to shoot it down then didn't they. I think NYers have just seemed to let terrorism get the better of them.
Well they usually have to try and talk the plane down (Onto an airport rather than into a building) and get the presidents authority of something before shooting it down. You can't really blame people from NY for being a bit edgy when they see a plane flying over the city when it shouldn't have been. ----
Isn't it enough to see that a garden is beautiful without having to believe that there are fairies at the bottom of it too? - Douglas Adams
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Xen Gin
Solar Excavations Ultd. Black Sun Alliance
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Posted - 2009.04.28 16:22:00 -
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Originally by: Kaidem
Originally by: Xen Gin Edited by: Xen Gin on 28/04/2009 16:13:58 I very much doubt that some one in the NY Majors office or the local government didn't know about this. I'd imagine that after the previous events, a lot of safeguards are in place.
Well sofar from what has been said the Mayor didn't know untill it happened. The people behind this screwup had allegedly informed the police and the folks who control the aerospace, so basically getting through the safety measures.
Of course he didn't, but I bet you some one in the office did.
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Kaidem
Minmatar Black Rebellion
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Posted - 2009.04.28 16:25:00 -
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Edited by: Kaidem on 28/04/2009 16:25:36
Originally by: Xen Gin
Waited way too long to shoot it down then didn't they. I think NYers have just seemed to let terrorism get the better of them.
Can't really blame them after what happened, I live in the UK and if I had been there I would have **** myself. Big plane + fighter jet + previous terrorist attack using planes = new underware. Also, the sound of the planes on some videos are enough to to frighten most people I think in that situation.
Originally by: Xen Gin
Of course he didn't, but I bet you some one in the office did.
Yeah, just a breakdown in communication, think some jobs will be available soon. .
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Xen Gin
Solar Excavations Ultd. Black Sun Alliance
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Posted - 2009.04.28 16:29:00 -
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Originally by: Kaidem Edited by: Kaidem on 28/04/2009 16:25:36
Originally by: Xen Gin
Waited way too long to shoot it down then didn't they. I think NYers have just seemed to let terrorism get the better of them.
Can't really blame them after what happened, I live in the UK and if I had been there I would have **** myself. Big plane + fighter jet + previous terrorist attack using planes = new underware. Also, the sound of the planes on some videos are enough to to frighten most people I think in that situation.
Originally by: Xen Gin
Of course he didn't, but I bet you some one in the office did.
Yeah, just a breakdown in communication, think some jobs will be available soon.
I'm sure some one will get the sack or a reprimand for it. But I still think it's being over dramatic, since the procedures that are put in place means that unauthorised aircraft are intercepted way before they can get anywhere near Manhattan Island.
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Akita T
Caldari Navy Volunteer Task Force
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Posted - 2009.04.28 17:35:00 -
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Originally by: Jacob Mei Seriously, you have to be stone stupid to not go "hmm, maybe the NYC residents might have an issue with this?"
I think the hiring practice of government officials all across the globe has "stone stupid" as one of the prerequisites 
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Micheal Dietrich
Caldari
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Posted - 2009.04.28 17:39:00 -
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Originally by: Akita T
Originally by: Jacob Mei Seriously, you have to be stone stupid to not go "hmm, maybe the NYC residents might have an issue with this?"
I think the hiring practice of government officials all across the globe has "stone stupid" as one of the prerequisites 
That's actually my break down of management in general but when you include state or federal into the listing you actually require a special breed of stupid.
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Micheal Dietrich
Caldari
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Posted - 2009.04.28 17:59:00 -
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MSN video link
Look at them scatter.
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TU144 TEPPOPNCT'CMEPTHNK
Caldari State War Academy
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Posted - 2009.04.28 17:59:00 -
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Wha!!!
don't they have Vulkan mini-guns mounted on the rooftops of the highest skysc****rs yet!
A ring of them on all tall outer skysc****rs along the city perimater(like in Mega-City One) along with clusters on the highest flat-top buildings will surely give the residents some peice of mind (along with a piece of lead if anyone did fly into the no fly zone and the guns opened up)
hahaha talk about collateral damage, them guns would rip shreads out of the residential districts, that ammo goes a long way (on a balistic arc).
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Wendat Huron
Stellar Solutions
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Posted - 2009.04.28 18:02:00 -
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One thing I do admire with american capitalism is that executive heads do roll when things go to ****, unlike here where they're awarded for screwing up. Looking forward to seeing what head will roll for this.
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Wendat Huron
Stellar Solutions
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Posted - 2009.04.28 18:12:00 -
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Originally by: TU144 TEPPOPNCT'CMEPTHNK Wha!!!
don't they have Vulkan mini-guns mounted on the rooftops of the highest skysc****rs yet!
A ring of them on all tall outer skysc****rs along the city perimater(like in Mega-City One) along with clusters on the highest flat-top buildings will surely give the residents some peice of mind (along with a piece of lead if anyone did fly into the no fly zone and the guns opened up)
hahaha talk about collateral damage, them guns would rip shreads out of the residential districts, that ammo goes a long way (on a balistic arc).
Though Ack-Ack with timed detonation would be better and litter the streets with bits of hot falling metal.
That would be the one up on this scenario, some nut with the right tools for the job opening up on the plane.
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Akita T
Caldari Navy Volunteer Task Force
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Posted - 2009.04.28 18:13:00 -
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Originally by: Wendat Huron One thing I do admire with american capitalism is that executive heads do roll when things go to ****, unlike here where they're awarded for screwing up. Looking forward to seeing what head will roll for this.
I don't know, are you being sarcastic or just ill informed ? Executive heads don't "roll" when things go bad, they kind of bob a little then resurface a bit later, if they even get anything except PR flak at all. You want to see heads rolling when excrement hits the fan, you want CHINESE capitalism as a reference point. Tainted milk due to corporate greed ? DEATH PENALTY for top level execs, life in prison for many others, other punishments for many more even remotely involved.
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Wendat Huron
Stellar Solutions
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Posted - 2009.04.28 18:16:00 -
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Originally by: Akita T
Originally by: Wendat Huron One thing I do admire with american capitalism is that executive heads do roll when things go to ****, unlike here where they're awarded for screwing up. Looking forward to seeing what head will roll for this.
I don't know, are you being sarcastic or just ill informed ? Executive heads don't "roll" when things go bad, they kind of bob a little then resurface a bit later, if they even get anything except PR flak at all. You want to see heads rolling when excrement hits the fan, you want CHINESE capitalism as a reference point. Tainted milk due to corporate greed ? DEATH PENALTY for top level execs, life in prison for many others, other punishments for many more even remotely involved.
The chinese got something right at last.
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Sun Clausewitz
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Posted - 2009.04.28 18:26:00 -
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I find this amusing... government having to cut funding for education, can't fund Social Security, economy going down like Jenna Jameson, and they don't mind blowing the money to take Air Force one out for a joyride. ///my vote is for sale, he who sends the most iskies gets it\\\ |

Overseer Aliena
Caldari
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Posted - 2009.04.28 18:37:00 -
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What would Shining say?
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TimGascoigne
The Graduates Morsus Mihi
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Posted - 2009.04.28 18:38:00 -
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that was not air force one as the president was not a board. air force one is simply any aircraft which carries the president at that exact moment.
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Kaidem
Minmatar Black Rebellion
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Posted - 2009.04.28 18:44:00 -
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Originally by: TimGascoigne that was not air force one as the president was not a board. air force one is simply any aircraft which carries the president at that exact moment.
Yeah, just seen that on the MSN video linked earlier, someone should tell the BBC because they been talking about "airforce one" all day . .
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Grek Forto
Malevolent Intentions
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Posted - 2009.04.28 18:49:00 -
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They didn't want that publicity anyways...oh wai...
Originally by: Stitcher It's "Caldari", not "Caldarians". One Caldari, three Caldari, all the Caldari are doing Caldari things using Caldari tools in a Caldari way.
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Bodrul
Caldari Tadakastu-Obata Corporation The Honda Accord
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Posted - 2009.04.28 19:01:00 -
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isnt breakdown of comunicatiosn which led to 9/11 since any other time you would have F-16s hot on the tails of the planes. 9/11 = Fishy
and yes i am one of those that believes 9/11 is an inside Job
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