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Carlani Hudson
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Posted - 2009.05.04 19:45:00 -
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As I write these words, Intaki is currently blockaded by hostile Caldari forces, and we are seeing the beginnings of shortages and industrial breakdowns. How long till the entire infrastructure fails and a whole population suffers even more terrible hardships ?
To avoid this humanitarian disaster, I have a started a fund to supply the planet with vital goods. Electronic and mechanical parts, synthetic oil, antibiotics, manufacturing tools. All the items needed to keep the Intaki homeworld alive and prevent a slide into anarchy.
Purchase orders have been set up covering the entire Intaki system. Bring any of the good there to sell them - significantly above market averages - so that they can go to help the people on Intaki Prime. Make money, and know you are helping a good cause !
You can of course donate goods directly to Intaki, and the Intaki Relief Effort is accepting monetary donations to maintain the incentive program. Your donations will help citizens of Intaki in desperate need !
Should you have any questions, feel free to share them here. The current buy orders are public, and guaranteed by the Secure Commerce Commission in the Placid region.
Keep Intaki alive !
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Damar Rocarion
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Posted - 2009.05.04 21:00:00 -
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Not to deter you from your good intentions but as broadcasted before, Caldari militia has already started shipment of aid to Intaki.
I have also personally set up several million ISK worth of buy orders to Intaki as well. Unfortunately, some unknown computer problem in local markets forced me to stop and not all got processed yet. I am sure people of Intaki will appreciate your help though.
Yours in solidarity.
Damar Rocarion Brigadier General
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Ze'ev Sinraali
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Posted - 2009.05.04 21:23:00 -
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True enough, General, but Ms. Hudson and the IRE's efforts provide an admirably apolitical outlet for those who would rather not risk their donations being channeled through or put to use by those with...ulterior motives. Not that I mean to disparage the charity of either the ILF or the State Protectorate... -------------------------- Celebrate the real heroes; buy your crew dinner. |
Saxon Hawke
Intaki Liberation Front
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Posted - 2009.05.04 21:42:00 -
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I value any and all efforts to benefit the people of the Intaki System.
Contrary to some public opinion, I do not require the "ILF label" on everything that happens in the home system.
Welcome to the struggle, Madame Hudson. Intaki needs you.
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Carlani Hudson
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Posted - 2009.05.05 05:47:00 -
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I do note with no small amount of amusement, that this "relief effort" I've sponsored, has been going on for 4 days now, being advertised from word in mouth in a few channels, before I made it public.
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Damar Rocarion
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Posted - 2009.05.05 06:54:00 -
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That is indeed most excellent then. Perhaps to show my sincerity in these efforts I shall contract all relief supplies received from Caldari militia (excluding those given straight to Mr. Hawke) to you then and you are then free to either give them to Mr. Hawke or to take them down to planet on your own.
Your choice. I would however appreciate if we can publish combined total of relief supplies delivered.
Damar Rocarion Brigadier General
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Carlanii Hudson
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Posted - 2009.05.05 10:00:00 -
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Originally by: Damar Rocarion That is indeed most excellent then. Perhaps to show my sincerity in these efforts I shall contract all relief supplies received from Caldari militia (excluding those given straight to Mr. Hawke) to you then and you are then free to either give them to Mr. Hawke or to take them down to planet on your own.
I will gladly accept any supplies and donation on behalf of the Intaki people. However, I can't help but notice that, if it weren't for the efforts of the Caldari militia, and their ILF allies, there would be no blockade and shortages in the first place.
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Mr Reeth
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Posted - 2009.05.05 11:44:00 -
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Originally by: Carlanii Hudson
I will gladly accept any supplies and donation on behalf of the Intaki people. However, I can't help but notice that, if it weren't for the efforts of the Caldari militia, and their ILF allies, there would be no blockade and shortages in the first place.
That's one way to look at it.
Are you aware of any of the others?
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Soren LiHalan
Gallente
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Posted - 2009.05.05 12:27:00 -
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Out of curiosity, how many other planets in the warzone are the beneficiaries of similar organized efforts? |
Carlani Hudson
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Posted - 2009.05.05 12:44:00 -
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As far as I know, only Intaki has officially reported shortages. That's not saying it's the only planet to suffer shortages, but it's the only planet we know about.
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Ze'ev Sinraali
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Posted - 2009.05.05 12:51:00 -
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Originally by: Saxon Hawke Contrary to some public opinion, I do not require the "ILF label" on everything that happens in the home system.
Well that's no way to wage a successful revolution. How do you expect to gain legitimacy if you don't co-opt any good PR you can? -------------------------- Celebrate the real heroes; buy your crew dinner. |
Damar Rocarion
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Posted - 2009.05.05 14:49:00 -
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I must actually withdraw my earlier offer. I will hand all my relief supplies to Mr. Hawke as per original plan. My fellows in Caldari militia would not like involving another party in this.
Damar Rocarion Brigadier General
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Aria Jenneth
Caldari Ghost Festival
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Posted - 2009.05.05 17:33:00 -
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I'd call that a wise move, General, considering that Ms. Hudson's aim appears to be propaganda.
"Blockade." Gods and spirits, you'd think there were Caldari Navy ships ringing the planet with warp interdiction bubbles.
A "blockade" is what was in place during the Gallente bombardment of Caldari Prime at the dawn of the first Caldari-Gallente war. A full-on military campaign was necessary to get the Caldari civilian population moved out.
The Caldari have space superiority; that is all. The ISD makes no suggestion of Caldari ships in orbit, much less intercepting incoming shipments (though I admit we can hardly blame the Gallente for not sending regular Federal shipments through Caldari lines).
There are Gallentean troops on the ground; there are Caldari forces in space. There's no blockade, Ms. Hudson. None is necessary. The shortages are the normal consequences of battle lines and the hardships of war.
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Saxon Hawke
Intaki Liberation Front
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Posted - 2009.05.05 20:59:00 -
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Originally by: Aria Jenneth I'd call that a wise move, General, considering that Ms. Hudson's aim appears to be propaganda.
"Blockade." Gods and spirits, you'd think there were Caldari Navy ships ringing the planet with warp interdiction bubbles.
A "blockade" is what was in place during the Gallente bombardment of Caldari Prime at the dawn of the first Caldari-Gallente war. A full-on military campaign was necessary to get the Caldari civilian population moved out.
The Caldari have space superiority; that is all. The ISD makes no suggestion of Caldari ships in orbit, much less intercepting incoming shipments (though I admit we can hardly blame the Gallente for not sending regular Federal shipments through Caldari lines).
There are Gallentean troops on the ground; there are Caldari forces in space. There's no blockade, Ms. Hudson. None is necessary. The shortages are the normal consequences of battle lines and the hardships of war.
I am in agreement with Madame Jenneth that there is no Caldari blockade. That isn't to say the route to Intaki is a pleasure cruise. Countless pirates prowl the Intaki Corridor and anyone considering the trip should take that into account.
As I have long maintained, it is the presence of this criminal element that is the greatest threat to the prosperity of the Intaki people who choose to live in the home system. Any entity (be they Gallente or Caldari) interested in truly winning the hearts of the Intaki should take great pains to combat the pirate threat.
For all its many blessings, it is in this area that the Federation has ultimately failed the people who inhabit the Intaki System.
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Carlani Hudson
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Posted - 2009.05.05 21:35:00 -
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I will not dignify such a shameless propaganda with an answer.
It's easy blaming the failure of the GallentT forces in the area Mr Hawke, when the ILF has done its best to support the Caldari invasion.
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Saxon Hawke
Intaki Liberation Front
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Posted - 2009.05.05 21:51:00 -
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Originally by: Carlani Hudson I will not dignify such a shameless propaganda with an answer.
It's easy blaming the failure of the GallentT forces in the area Mr Hawke, when the ILF has done its best to support the Caldari invasion.
Madame Hudson, the ILF has always and will always support one group: The Intaki. We accept the aid and assistance of those who offer to help us in our cause to improve the safety of the Intaki System and repay that aid and assistance in kind.
Because the ILF did not meet the Caldari militia with guns blazing, choosing instead to work with them in keeping the system clear of pirate interlopers, operatives within the Gallente Federation would not accept offers of mutual assistance from the ILF. Or worse yet, they became openly hostile to ILF pilots.
As I grow tired of repeating, the ILF will not engage in "blue on blue" encounters but will assist "blue" allies threatened by pilots neutral to the ILF. Therefore any assistance rendered to the Caldari against Federation militia pilots was due directly to that militia corp's refusal to enter into diplomatic relations with the ILF. The Federation militia's general "it's us or them" attitude left the ILF with little room to negotiate positive standings with them.
As for blaming anyone for the situation in Intaki, I blame everyone who wants to lay some claim to the Intaki System while doing nothing to improve the lives of the people who reside there.
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Hamish Grayson
Caldari Independent Navy Reserve
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Posted - 2009.05.06 00:35:00 -
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Edited by: Hamish Grayson on 06/05/2009 00:44:41 Mrs. Hudson and Mr. Hawke,
My associates and I may be interested in investing in this venture; however preliminary market analysis shows that there is less than one hundred thousand cubic meters in purchase request per each item you've listed. A planet with a population size of Intaki prime can consume between one and four million cubic meters per item in one day. Can you guarantee our efforts would have an impact?
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Saxon Hawke
Intaki Liberation Front
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Posted - 2009.05.06 05:14:00 -
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Originally by: Hamish Grayson Edited by: Hamish Grayson on 06/05/2009 00:44:41 Mrs. Hudson and Mr. Hawke,
My associates and I may be interested in investing in this venture; however preliminary market analysis shows that there is less than one hundred thousand cubic meters in purchase request per each item you've listed. A planet with a population size of Intaki prime can consume between one and four million cubic meters per item in one day. Can you guarantee our efforts would have an impact?
Mr. Grayson, If you came upon a starving man and had only an apple would you give it to him? Or would you tell him "This apple won't sustain so giving it to you would have no impact?"
Over simplifying a bit, I admit, but I believe the logic holds true. Just because we cannot meet the needs of all doesn't mean we shouldn't try to meet the needs of some.
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Damar Rocarion
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Posted - 2009.05.06 05:37:00 -
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Originally by: Hamish Grayson My associates and I may be interested in investing in this venture; however preliminary market analysis shows that there is less than one hundred thousand cubic meters in purchase request per each item you've listed.
This is quite true and I admit that if one looks at my personal buy orders, you notice the same thing. However, I doubt that one man would ever have enough money to sustain a planet the size of Intaki for an extended period of time. Therefore I consider my own buy orders as symbolic gesture which hopefully inspire others.
Caldari militia does it's best to destroy any pirates that harass our forces in local space. Typically we try to avoid actively hunting them down as they seem to be attracted to visit our military installations. Last time this happened to me personally, Caldari militia destroyed two heavy assault cruisers and a battleship for no losses.
Damar Rocarion Brigadier General
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Siri Blue
Gallente Arachnea Phoenix Battalion Hoodlums Associates
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Posted - 2009.05.06 15:39:00 -
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One of these days the People - Caldari and Gallente alike - will understand and see the true faces that hide behind the Caldari State... And eventually the criminals and terrorists that call themselves ILF will be taken into custody and be judged. I will be there to witness these events.
People for Stuff Raffle - No ISK needed |
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Carlani Hudson
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Posted - 2009.05.06 16:53:00 -
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Edited by: Carlani Hudson on 06/05/2009 16:53:32 What a heart-warming picture you are painting, Mr Hawke ! I'm afraid it's quite far from the truth, however. The ILF has deliberately sided with the Caldaris, and is still working to prevent GallentTes counter attacks in Intaki. I've watched first hand such engagements, where the ILF would ignore pirates, to focus on protecting Caldari grounds.
The Caldaris might be our enemies in this war, but at least they're honest people.
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Svetlana Scarlet
Caldari Caldari Independent Navy Reserve
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Posted - 2009.05.06 17:27:00 -
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Originally by: Carlani Hudson What a heart-warming picture you are painting, Mr Hawke ! I'm afraid it's quite far from the truth, however. The ILF has deliberately sided with the Caldaris, and is still working to prevent GallentTes counter attacks in Intaki. I've watched first hand such engagements, where the ILF would ignore pirates, to focus on protecting Caldari grounds.
The Caldaris might be our enemies in this war, but at least they're honest people.
Perhaps they simply realize that the Gallente do not have the best interests of the Intaki in mind, and if nothing else the Caldari are willing to let them stand or fall on their own merits. -- CAPT Svetlana Scarlet CAIN Chief of Diplomatic Staff
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Mort Eveson
Gallente Intaki Liberation Front
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Posted - 2009.05.06 21:40:00 -
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Originally by: Carlani Hudson
From the beginning of this futile war the ILF decided to stay neutral and continue our policy of offering blue standings to all non-pirates who were willing to help Intaki. Since much of the federation militia were unwilling to exchange blue standings then members of the corp can make their own choices and for some of them this has meant helping the Caldari when standings allow it. We each walk the Ida alone. I personally tried to talk to several federation pilots during the early months of the war but was largely either ignored, insulted and told that if I wasn't fighting the Caldari then I was a coward or treated as an enemy.
Could you give me an example of an engagement and what the forces involved were? I'm genuinely interested. Ours and the Caldari's interests have coincided when pirates attack a complex they are in.
We in the ILF have been honest from the start; we will support those who support us and fight back against those who attack us. I personally prefer the Gallente system of government but it has been the Caldari who have shown us respect and have helped us when we have asked for it.
However this is all off topic:- we are here to organise aid for the Intaki people. Currently the supply situation is not as desperate as other parts New Eden, Intaki is fairly self dependent. It is hi-tech goods that have to be manufactured off world that are in demand mostly, although a reserve supply of food couldn't be a bad thing. I have moved supplies of my own to Intaki V 5 ready for further co-operation with planet side authorities and I hope others will do the same.
I do totally agree with Rhin Husel's statement, the current CONCORD occupation rules leave a lot of ambiguity and much to be desired. Until the average citizen, on any occupied planet, Gallente or Caldari, knows that the skys are not about to burst into flame from orbital bombardment or troops are not about to burst through their door then CONCORD is not doing its job.
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Saxon Hawke
Intaki Liberation Front
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Posted - 2009.05.07 19:36:00 -
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Originally by: Siri Blue One of these days the People - Caldari and Gallente alike - will understand and see the true faces that hide behind the Caldari State... And eventually the criminals and terrorists that call themselves ILF will be taken into custody and be judged. I will be there to witness these events.
Criminals? Terrorists? Those are serious accusations, Madame Blue, and libelous, too.
I would counter that not only am I not a criminal or a terrorist, but also the powers that be have granted me a reasonably high security rating and that I am held in exceptionally high regard by agents of both the Federation Navy and the Federation Senate.
I suppose you could argue that I am vocal in my belief that these organizations do far too little to aid the people of the Intaki System. But that is not a crime. I also promote the idea that the people of Intaki (all people everywhere, actually) have a primary right to self-determination. This is also not a criminal act.
Now, I have advocated the peaceful secession of the Intaki System. Under the most draconian of interpretations, this could be considered sedition. That would really be a stretch, however, as I have long maintained that negotiation for a mutually beneficial separation is the preferable route to the creation of a free Intaki State.
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AncientGuardian
Gallente Intaki Liberation Front
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Posted - 2009.05.08 07:17:00 -
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Originally by: Siri Blue One of these days the People - Caldari and Gallente alike - will understand and see the true faces that hide behind the Caldari State... And eventually the criminals and terrorists that call themselves ILF will be taken into custody and be judged. I will be there to witness these events.
ILF are Criminals and terrorists? news to me.
when the ILF offered the Federation with Peace; we were met gun fire. However, and strangely, when we offered the same with many Caldari, we were offered more respect then our own nation could offer.
So excuse me extremist, if the Federation (your overloards) failed to protect their own, and meet them with the guns of terrorism.
ILF are no Criminals and Terrorists, we are Victims of a Federation acted crime.
When the Intaki people rise and take your person to the Guillotine, i will be there to witness that event.
Quote:
'Last night I played a blank tape at full blast. The mime next door went nuts'
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If I ever saw an amputee getting hanged, I would start yelling out letters.
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Yuri Intaki
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Posted - 2009.05.08 09:23:00 -
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Originally by: AncientGuardian ILF are Criminals and terrorists? news to me.
Let us be honest here. ILF is painted with the same brush as me. I dont deny i've shot FDU pilots, like i've shot pirates in Intaki area, to assist Caldari militia. My reputation has gone so far that FDU pilot who I came to assists as he was being attacked by pirate, switched his fire to me. No other ILF member has, to my knowledge, initiated combat against FDU.
All this I have done to bring the situation of Intaki to spotlight. I broke many laws in the process but I feel it was necessary because political solution was not forthcoming while federation continued to ignore Intaki cause.
Again, I did it because somebody had to. Perhaps history later passes judgment on me.
Yuri Intaki ILF
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Hamish Grayson
Caldari Independent Navy Reserve
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Posted - 2009.05.09 09:34:00 -
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Originally by: Saxon Hawke Mr. Grayson, If you came upon a starving man and had only an apple would you give it to him? Or would you tell him "This apple won't sustain so giving it to you would have no impact?"
Over simplifying a bit, I admit, but I believe the logic holds true. Just because we cannot meet the needs of all doesn't mean we shouldn't try to meet the needs of some.
Mr. Hawke,
Offering a crumb and a pat on the head to a starving family would be a more accurate analogy. Providing token assistance is the Gallente way of doing things. Good intentions and a half thought out plan of action are useless. A proper business plan with a complete understanding of the economics of the situation is what's needed. ============================================
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Mort Eveson
Gallente Intaki Liberation Front
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Posted - 2009.05.09 19:05:00 -
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Originally by: Hamish Grayson
Originally by: Saxon Hawke
Perhaps, but it might be that crumb that maintains them while the plan is being thought up and organised.
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Carlani Hudson
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Posted - 2009.05.09 21:41:00 -
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Despite what some deluded extremists might pretend, the Intakis are willingly, and proudly, Federation citizens. There is however a significant gap between disagreeing, or even opposing, official Federation policies, and actively supporting the other side during a war. The former is called "Democracy", the later "high treason".
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Aria Jenneth
Caldari Ghost Festival
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Posted - 2009.05.10 02:24:00 -
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Edited by: Aria Jenneth on 10/05/2009 02:27:12
Originally by: Carlani Hudson There is however a significant gap between disagreeing, or even opposing, official Federation policies, and actively supporting the other side during a war. The former is called "Democracy", the later "high treason".
Hm. Well, there's only so much that tut-tutting politely will get you in pursuit of a political cause, Ms. Hudson, and considering how the Federation's handled at least one treason case I'd be tempted to say that traitors earn themselves high distinction for courage.
The Caldari State rewarded the last batch of Intaki "traitors" rather well as I recall, difficulties with certain hotheaded ultranationalists aside.
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