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Karn Sadi	Posted - 2004.09.02 19:21:00 - [1] I've heard vauge stories how some people have traveled to jove, but never belived in it. But seriously, is it posible? just do fly all the way there instead of using a jump gate? How long would it take? and what can i expect if i make it there?
Karn Sadi	Posted - 2004.09.02 19:21:00 - [2] I've heard vauge stories how some people have traveled to jove, but never belived in it. But seriously, is it posible? just do fly all the way there instead of using a jump gate? How long would it take? and what can i expect if i make it there?
pshepherd	Posted - 2004.09.02 19:26:00 - [3] not possible without a jumpgate
pshepherd	Posted - 2004.09.02 19:26:00 - [4] not possible without a jumpgate
Golgrath	Posted - 2004.09.02 19:28:00 - [5] Ppl traveled there by setting their clone to a system in jove space and self destructing. Alternative way was sending a stuck petition and saying in your petition that you were in jove space (GM's didnt bother to check where the system actually was). And jove space is empty. Gallente stations if i remember right, nothing on market, crap roids.
Golgrath	Posted - 2004.09.02 19:28:00 - [6] Ppl traveled there by setting their clone to a system in jove space and self destructing. Alternative way was sending a stuck petition and saying in your petition that you were in jove space (GM's didnt bother to check where the system actually was). And jove space is empty. Gallente stations if i remember right, nothing on market, crap roids.
Danton Marcellus	Posted - 2004.09.02 19:29:00 - [7] Now for the hijack, I've heard that only the volounteers will have the option to morph their main characters to become jove. Convert Stations
Danton Marcellus	Posted - 2004.09.02 19:29:00 - [8] Now for the hijack, I've heard that only the volounteers will have the option to morph their main characters to become jove. Convert Stations
Molly Razor	Posted - 2004.09.02 19:34:00 - [9] I went out to the middle of nowhere to try to get to Jove space. Couldn't find a jumpgate (suprise). I've heard there are hidden jumpgates, just not to Jove space. Is it possible with sensor boosters and similar hardware to get a scan resolution high enough to detect secret objects? If there are hidden jumpgates or (more likely) hidden belts in a system, are they detectable with boosting?
Molly Razor	Posted - 2004.09.02 19:34:00 - [10] I went out to the middle of nowhere to try to get to Jove space. Couldn't find a jumpgate (suprise). I've heard there are hidden jumpgates, just not to Jove space. Is it possible with sensor boosters and similar hardware to get a scan resolution high enough to detect secret objects? If there are hidden jumpgates or (more likely) hidden belts in a system, are they detectable with boosting?
Karn Sadi	Posted - 2004.09.02 19:40:00 - [11] Originally by: Golgrath Ppl traveled there by setting their clone to a system in jove space and self destructing. Alternative way was sending a stuck petition and saying in your petition that you were in jove space (GM's didnt bother to check where the system actually was). And jove space is empty. Gallente stations if i remember right, nothing on market, crap roids. Can you set a clone in jove o.O? empty? :( would love to go there, just for the experience and travel around speaking to jovians.
Karn Sadi	Posted - 2004.09.02 19:40:00 - [12] Originally by: Golgrath Ppl traveled there by setting their clone to a system in jove space and self destructing. Alternative way was sending a stuck petition and saying in your petition that you were in jove space (GM's didnt bother to check where the system actually was). And jove space is empty. Gallente stations if i remember right, nothing on market, crap roids. Can you set a clone in jove o.O? empty? :( would love to go there, just for the experience and travel around speaking to jovians.
Golgrath	Posted - 2004.09.02 19:46:00 - [13] Originally by: Karn Sadi Originally by: Golgrath Ppl traveled there by setting their clone to a system in jove space and self destructing. Alternative way was sending a stuck petition and saying in your petition that you were in jove space (GM's didnt bother to check where the system actually was). And jove space is empty. Gallente stations if i remember right, nothing on market, crap roids. Can you set a clone in jove o.O? empty? :( would love to go there, just for the experience and travel around speaking to jovians. no you cant do that anymore, it was a bug and was fixed ages ago.
Golgrath	Posted - 2004.09.02 19:46:00 - [14] Originally by: Karn Sadi Originally by: Golgrath Ppl traveled there by setting their clone to a system in jove space and self destructing. Alternative way was sending a stuck petition and saying in your petition that you were in jove space (GM's didnt bother to check where the system actually was). And jove space is empty. Gallente stations if i remember right, nothing on market, crap roids. Can you set a clone in jove o.O? empty? :( would love to go there, just for the experience and travel around speaking to jovians. no you cant do that anymore, it was a bug and was fixed ages ago.
kieron	Posted - 2004.09.02 20:04:00 - [15] There have been players that made it to Jove space, but they have been mysteriously teleported back to "known" space. The routes this was possible with in the past have been sealed off. There's not much in Jove space currently. You won't find any NPCs flying around in there. The resources are there, but that's about it. When we are closer to opening up Jove space, it will become inhabited. As for Danton's comment, there are very few volunteers that have access to Jovian characters, and they are storyline related. There haven't been any plans to make the Jovian race vol/ISD only. kieron Community Manager, EVE Online
kieron	Posted - 2004.09.02 20:04:00 - [16] There have been players that made it to Jove space, but they have been mysteriously teleported back to "known" space. The routes this was possible with in the past have been sealed off. There's not much in Jove space currently. You won't find any NPCs flying around in there. The resources are there, but that's about it. When we are closer to opening up Jove space, it will become inhabited. As for Danton's comment, there are very few volunteers that have access to Jovian characters, and they are storyline related. There haven't been any plans to make the Jovian race vol/ISD only. kieron Community Manager, EVE Online
Karn Sadi	Posted - 2004.09.02 20:52:00 - [17] Originally by: kieron There have been players that made it to Jove space, but they have been mysteriously teleported back to "known" space. The routes this was possible with in the past have been sealed off. There's not much in Jove space currently. You won't find any NPCs flying around in there. The resources are there, but that's about it. When we are closer to opening up Jove space, it will become inhabited. As for Danton's comment, there are very few volunteers that have access to Jovian characters, and they are storyline related. There haven't been any plans to make the Jovian race vol/ISD only. Roger, thx Kieron
Karn Sadi	Posted - 2004.09.02 20:52:00 - [18] Originally by: kieron There have been players that made it to Jove space, but they have been mysteriously teleported back to "known" space. The routes this was possible with in the past have been sealed off. There's not much in Jove space currently. You won't find any NPCs flying around in there. The resources are there, but that's about it. When we are closer to opening up Jove space, it will become inhabited. As for Danton's comment, there are very few volunteers that have access to Jovian characters, and they are storyline related. There haven't been any plans to make the Jovian race vol/ISD only. Roger, thx Kieron
Danton Marcellus	Posted - 2004.09.02 21:57:00 - [19] Edited by: Danton Marcellus on 02/09/2004 22:00:04 Bah, rumour control, the sky hadn't even begun falling, not even a bricklet. Just wanted to add that I'd think it an excellent idea if jove characters were restricted to the people that put in hours of their time to make playing more enjoyable for others & no I'm not one of them, well in that sense anyways. Convert Stations
Danton Marcellus	Posted - 2004.09.02 21:57:00 - [20] Edited by: Danton Marcellus on 02/09/2004 22:00:04 Bah, rumour control, the sky hadn't even begun falling, not even a bricklet. Just wanted to add that I'd think it an excellent idea if jove characters were restricted to the people that put in hours of their time to make playing more enjoyable for others & no I'm not one of them, well in that sense anyways. Convert Stations
Manchurian Candidate	Posted - 2004.09.02 21:58:00 - [21] Originally by: kieron As for Danton's comment, there are very few volunteers that have access to Jovian characters, and they are storyline related. There haven't been any plans to make the Jovian race vol/ISD only. Wait, so normal people will be able to be Jovian too?
Manchurian Candidate	Posted - 2004.09.02 21:58:00 - [22] Originally by: kieron As for Danton's comment, there are very few volunteers that have access to Jovian characters, and they are storyline related. There haven't been any plans to make the Jovian race vol/ISD only. Wait, so normal people will be able to be Jovian too?
kieron	Posted - 2004.09.02 22:16:00 - [23] Originally by: Manchurian Candidate Originally by: kieron As for Danton's comment, there are very few volunteers that have access to Jovian characters, and they are storyline related. There haven't been any plans to make the Jovian race vol/ISD only. Wait, so normal people will be able to be Jovian too? Yup, that's the plan, but there's nothing even remotely set regarding a time that is going to occur. Shiva has to roll out, as does Kali. It will occur at some point in time in the future. (So no use of "SoonÖ" here.) kieron Community Manager, EVE Online
kieron	Posted - 2004.09.02 22:16:00 - [24] Originally by: Manchurian Candidate Originally by: kieron As for Danton's comment, there are very few volunteers that have access to Jovian characters, and they are storyline related. There haven't been any plans to make the Jovian race vol/ISD only. Wait, so normal people will be able to be Jovian too? Yup, that's the plan, but there's nothing even remotely set regarding a time that is going to occur. Shiva has to roll out, as does Kali. It will occur at some point in time in the future. (So no use of "SoonÖ" here.) kieron Community Manager, EVE Online
digitalwanderer	Posted - 2004.09.02 22:21:00 - [25] Originally by: kieron Originally by: Manchurian Candidate Originally by: kieron As for Danton's comment, there are very few volunteers that have access to Jovian characters, and they are storyline related. There haven't been any plans to make the Jovian race vol/ISD only. Wait, so normal people will be able to be Jovian too? Yup, that's the plan, but there's nothing even remotely set regarding a time that is going to occur. Shiva has to roll out, as does Kali. It is set for a long time in the future. (So no use of "SoonÖ" here.) Now that we're on the Kali subject,what are the chances that we're going to see player owned dreadnoughts and Titans by then?...
digitalwanderer	Posted - 2004.09.02 22:21:00 - [26] Originally by: kieron Originally by: Manchurian Candidate Originally by: kieron As for Danton's comment, there are very few volunteers that have access to Jovian characters, and they are storyline related. There haven't been any plans to make the Jovian race vol/ISD only. Wait, so normal people will be able to be Jovian too? Yup, that's the plan, but there's nothing even remotely set regarding a time that is going to occur. Shiva has to roll out, as does Kali. It is set for a long time in the future. (So no use of "SoonÖ" here.) Now that we're on the Kali subject,what are the chances that we're going to see player owned dreadnoughts and Titans by then?...
Shevar	Posted - 2004.09.02 23:10:00 - [27] Originally by: digitalwanderer Originally by: kieron Originally by: Manchurian Candidate Originally by: kieron As for Danton's comment, there are very few volunteers that have access to Jovian characters, and they are storyline related. There haven't been any plans to make the Jovian race vol/ISD only. Wait, so normal people will be able to be Jovian too? Yup, that's the plan, but there's nothing even remotely set regarding a time that is going to occur. Shiva has to roll out, as does Kali. It is set for a long time in the future. (So no use of "SoonÖ" here.) Now that we're on the Kali subject,what are the chances that we're going to see player owned dreadnoughts and Titans by then?... dreadnaughts sound feasable (its "just" a t2 bs), titans I doubt it. -------- -The only real drug problem is scoring real good drugs
Shevar	Posted - 2004.09.02 23:10:00 - [28] Originally by: digitalwanderer Originally by: kieron Originally by: Manchurian Candidate Originally by: kieron As for Danton's comment, there are very few volunteers that have access to Jovian characters, and they are storyline related. There haven't been any plans to make the Jovian race vol/ISD only. Wait, so normal people will be able to be Jovian too? Yup, that's the plan, but there's nothing even remotely set regarding a time that is going to occur. Shiva has to roll out, as does Kali. It is set for a long time in the future. (So no use of "SoonÖ" here.) Now that we're on the Kali subject,what are the chances that we're going to see player owned dreadnoughts and Titans by then?... dreadnaughts sound feasable (its "just" a t2 bs), titans I doubt it. -------- -The only real drug problem is scoring real good drugs
Tharrn	Posted - 2004.09.02 23:17:00 - [29] When I first saw EVE screenshots like ages ago and before beta started I immediately wanted to play Jove - because I am a science ***** and loved the organic look of their ships. That would really be tooo sweet and would absolutely make my day. Would be a nice change from playing an 'ebul' slaver RP-wise, too :)
Tharrn	Posted - 2004.09.02 23:17:00 - [30] When I first saw EVE screenshots like ages ago and before beta started I immediately wanted to play Jove - because I am a science ***** and loved the organic look of their ships. That would really be tooo sweet and would absolutely make my day. Would be a nice change from playing an 'ebul' slaver RP-wise, too :)
digitalwanderer	Posted - 2004.09.04 02:33:00 - [31] Originally by: Shevar Originally by: digitalwanderer Originally by: kieron Originally by: Manchurian Candidate Originally by: kieron As for Danton's comment, there are very few volunteers that have access to Jovian characters, and they are storyline related. There haven't been any plans to make the Jovian race vol/ISD only. Wait, so normal people will be able to be Jovian too? Yup, that's the plan, but there's nothing even remotely set regarding a time that is going to occur. Shiva has to roll out, as does Kali. It is set for a long time in the future. (So no use of "SoonÖ" here.) Now that we're on the Kali subject,what are the chances that we're going to see player owned dreadnoughts and Titans by then?... dreadnaughts sound feasable (its "just" a t2 bs), titans I doubt it. Last i heard,dreadnoughts aren't just tech 2 BS's,but a larger class of combat ship that will fit in between current BS's(and their tech 2 variants) and Titans...
digitalwanderer	Posted - 2004.09.04 02:33:00 - [32] Originally by: Shevar Originally by: digitalwanderer Originally by: kieron Originally by: Manchurian Candidate Originally by: kieron As for Danton's comment, there are very few volunteers that have access to Jovian characters, and they are storyline related. There haven't been any plans to make the Jovian race vol/ISD only. Wait, so normal people will be able to be Jovian too? Yup, that's the plan, but there's nothing even remotely set regarding a time that is going to occur. Shiva has to roll out, as does Kali. It is set for a long time in the future. (So no use of "SoonÖ" here.) Now that we're on the Kali subject,what are the chances that we're going to see player owned dreadnoughts and Titans by then?... dreadnaughts sound feasable (its "just" a t2 bs), titans I doubt it. Last i heard,dreadnoughts aren't just tech 2 BS's,but a larger class of combat ship that will fit in between current BS's(and their tech 2 variants) and Titans...
LOLZ	Posted - 2004.09.04 05:59:00 - [33] should just kill the joves from the game they have barely ever effected the game since release. waste of time them beeing in. i dont think anyone really cares for them now apart from new people who think there uber leet.
LOLZ	Posted - 2004.09.04 05:59:00 - [34] should just kill the joves from the game they have barely ever effected the game since release. waste of time them beeing in. i dont think anyone really cares for them now apart from new people who think there uber leet.
Erzengal	Posted - 2004.09.04 06:47:00 - [35] Originally by: LOLZ should just kill the joves from the game they have barely ever effected the game since release. waste of time them beeing in. i dont think anyone really cares for them now apart from new people who think there uber leet. Haven't they? Maybe thats just what they want you to believe. But seriously the jove have done alot, from cloning tech, to different interactions they have had with us. Personaly, when I was first downloading the game I wanted to be a Jovian, but after being here a while, I have been pulled into minmatar culture. :) The idea of having jove ships and tech is nice, but you loose all sense of individuality being just another clone. I only hope the DEVs have seen what happens when you release a superiour character class (see SWG), and find a balance so that it doesnt screw up the game, requiring multiple patches just for jovians.
Erzengal	Posted - 2004.09.04 06:47:00 - [36] Originally by: LOLZ should just kill the joves from the game they have barely ever effected the game since release. waste of time them beeing in. i dont think anyone really cares for them now apart from new people who think there uber leet. Haven't they? Maybe thats just what they want you to believe. But seriously the jove have done alot, from cloning tech, to different interactions they have had with us. Personaly, when I was first downloading the game I wanted to be a Jovian, but after being here a while, I have been pulled into minmatar culture. :) The idea of having jove ships and tech is nice, but you loose all sense of individuality being just another clone. I only hope the DEVs have seen what happens when you release a superiour character class (see SWG), and find a balance so that it doesnt screw up the game, requiring multiple patches just for jovians.
Nefrin Maldoes	Posted - 2004.09.04 15:53:00 - [37] I only hope the DEVs have seen what happens when you release a superiour character class (see SWG), and find a balance so that it doesnt screw up the game, requiring multiple patches just for jovians. As a SWG player, just wanted to highlight the above statement - Bunny is not currently here. He is on a SpecOps mission to kill the leader of a small third world country, the first step on the road to world domination.
Nefrin Maldoes	Posted - 2004.09.04 15:53:00 - [38] I only hope the DEVs have seen what happens when you release a superiour character class (see SWG), and find a balance so that it doesnt screw up the game, requiring multiple patches just for jovians. As a SWG player, just wanted to highlight the above statement - Bunny is not currently here. He is on a SpecOps mission to kill the leader of a small third world country, the first step on the road to world domination.
Serai Nephtys	Posted - 2004.09.04 16:58:00 - [39] Those Jovies get on my nerves, hanging around in stations handing out magazines and leaflets, knocking on my hangar door on a sunday afternoon when I am trying to have a lazy day! Why anyone would want to join them is beyond me, they are all nutcases!
Serai Nephtys	Posted - 2004.09.04 16:58:00 - [40] Those Jovies get on my nerves, hanging around in stations handing out magazines and leaflets, knocking on my hangar door on a sunday afternoon when I am trying to have a lazy day! Why anyone would want to join them is beyond me, they are all nutcases!
Danton Marcellus	Posted - 2004.09.04 19:37:00 - [41] Yeah, that about sums it up, people under 18 cannot possibly give off the sense of infinite wisdom with a mix of mad cow desease that is the jove vibe anyways. They're still too much into world domination 'we are the borg', save/destroy the universe type deals to be as subtle as you'd need to be to do these beings any justice. Yes give me the speech about how there's always exceptions, I still think it's a bloody good idea. Convert Stations
Danton Marcellus	Posted - 2004.09.04 19:37:00 - [42] Yeah, that about sums it up, people under 18 cannot possibly give off the sense of infinite wisdom with a mix of mad cow desease that is the jove vibe anyways. They're still too much into world domination 'we are the borg', save/destroy the universe type deals to be as subtle as you'd need to be to do these beings any justice. Yes give me the speech about how there's always exceptions, I still think it's a bloody good idea. Convert Stations
Ris Dnalor	Posted - 2004.09.05 08:51:00 - [43] Originally by: kieron There have been players that made it to Jove space, but they have been mysteriously teleported back to "known" space. The routes this was possible with in the past have been sealed off. There's not much in Jove space currently. You won't find any NPCs flying around in there. The resources are there, but that's about it. When we are closer to opening up Jove space, it will become inhabited. As for Danton's comment, there are very few volunteers that have access to Jovian characters, and they are storyline related. There haven't been any plans to make the Jovian race vol/ISD only. huge vast untouched fields of arkonor no doubt... ;) -- Jump Drive Operation / Rank 5 / SP: 1280000 of 1280000
Ris Dnalor	Posted - 2004.09.05 08:51:00 - [44] Originally by: kieron There have been players that made it to Jove space, but they have been mysteriously teleported back to "known" space. The routes this was possible with in the past have been sealed off. There's not much in Jove space currently. You won't find any NPCs flying around in there. The resources are there, but that's about it. When we are closer to opening up Jove space, it will become inhabited. As for Danton's comment, there are very few volunteers that have access to Jovian characters, and they are storyline related. There haven't been any plans to make the Jovian race vol/ISD only. huge vast untouched fields of arkonor no doubt... ;) -- Jump Drive Operation / Rank 5 / SP: 1280000 of 1280000
DREAMWORKS	Posted - 2004.09.05 10:25:00 - [45] Originally by: kieron Originally by: Manchurian Candidate Originally by: kieron As for Danton's comment, there are very few volunteers that have access to Jovian characters, and they are storyline related. There haven't been any plans to make the Jovian race vol/ISD only. Wait, so normal people will be able to be Jovian too? Yup, that's the plan, but there's nothing even remotely set regarding a time that is going to occur. Shiva has to roll out, as does Kali. It will occur at some point in time in the future. (So no use of "SoonÖ" here.) Good, cuz thats why im still playing. __________________________ http://www.nin.com/visuals/thtf_hi.html
DREAMWORKS	Posted - 2004.09.05 10:25:00 - [46] Originally by: kieron Originally by: Manchurian Candidate Originally by: kieron As for Danton's comment, there are very few volunteers that have access to Jovian characters, and they are storyline related. There haven't been any plans to make the Jovian race vol/ISD only. Wait, so normal people will be able to be Jovian too? Yup, that's the plan, but there's nothing even remotely set regarding a time that is going to occur. Shiva has to roll out, as does Kali. It will occur at some point in time in the future. (So no use of "SoonÖ" here.) Good, cuz thats why im still playing. __________________________ http://www.nin.com/visuals/thtf_hi.html
Vegeta	Posted - 2004.09.05 11:11:00 - [47] I urge you to pick up my book: 'To Jove and Teleported Back Again' -By Vegeta I'm probably the only person in-game who has a screenshot of a Jove station, its all spiky. Envy me. 2005.04.25 16:40:42 combat Your 1400mm Howitzer Artillery II perfectly strikes LawrenceNewton [WARAG], wrecking for 2706.9 damage.
Vegeta	Posted - 2004.09.05 11:11:00 - [48] I urge you to pick up my book: 'To Jove and Teleported Back Again' -By Vegeta I'm probably the only person in-game who has a screenshot of a Jove station, its all spiky. Envy me. 2005.04.25 16:40:42 combat Your 1400mm Howitzer Artillery II perfectly strikes LawrenceNewton [WARAG], wrecking for 2706.9 damage.
Nostradamu5	Posted - 2004.09.08 19:11:00 - [49] Quote: Member of the Orestes Fanclub Vegeta what how exactly does one become of member of the Orestes Fanclub? Do I have to supply semi privillaged communications? Stop griping about server instability and go buy an EVE mug! Additionally with the purchase of each mug you will receive two(2) invisible Elves.
Nostradamu5	Posted - 2004.09.08 19:11:00 - [50] Quote: Member of the Orestes Fanclub Vegeta what how exactly does one become of member of the Orestes Fanclub? Do I have to supply semi privillaged communications? Stop griping about server instability and go buy an EVE mug! Additionally with the purchase of each mug you will receive two(2) invisible Elves.
Paw Sandberg	Posted - 2004.09.08 23:01:00 - [51] the best idear IMHO to intreduce the Jove as a playeble race would be by them having double and tripple training time Jove BS skill lvl 24 that way you can train the darn things but expect using 1-3 months getting lvl 2 that would mean that a "pure" Jovean Charector would take forever to train (as their ships etc are better then ours) Thank You Paw Sandberg for all your BPC needs see http://oldforums.eveonline.com/?a=topic&threadID=55706&page=1
Paw Sandberg	Posted - 2004.09.08 23:01:00 - [52] the best idear IMHO to intreduce the Jove as a playeble race would be by them having double and tripple training time Jove BS skill lvl 24 that way you can train the darn things but expect using 1-3 months getting lvl 2 that would mean that a "pure" Jovean Charector would take forever to train (as their ships etc are better then ours) Thank You Paw Sandberg for all your BPC needs see http://oldforums.eveonline.com/?a=topic&threadID=55706&page=1
Vegeta	Posted - 2004.09.09 14:58:00 - [53] Originally by: Nostradamu5 Quote: Member of the Orestes Fanclub Vegeta what how exactly does one become of member of the Orestes Fanclub? Do I have to supply semi privillaged communications? You have to send me an in-game mail about wanting to join, then I, the chairman and currently the only member will evaluate your application. 2005.04.25 16:40:42 combat Your 1400mm Howitzer Artillery II perfectly strikes LawrenceNewton [WARAG], wrecking for 2706.9 damage.
Vegeta	Posted - 2004.09.09 14:58:00 - [54] Originally by: Nostradamu5 Quote: Member of the Orestes Fanclub Vegeta what how exactly does one become of member of the Orestes Fanclub? Do I have to supply semi privillaged communications? You have to send me an in-game mail about wanting to join, then I, the chairman and currently the only member will evaluate your application. 2005.04.25 16:40:42 combat Your 1400mm Howitzer Artillery II perfectly strikes LawrenceNewton [WARAG], wrecking for 2706.9 damage.
Jubba theMad	Posted - 2004.09.09 16:04:00 - [55] what, no singing? ------------------------------------------------ "Ruin for Gallente, Glory for Caldari, Corpses for Jubba the Mad" [i](Last incomming signal recorded by Quafe Convoy, destroyed near Jel VI.
Jubba theMad	Posted - 2004.09.09 16:04:00 - [56] what, no singing? ------------------------------------------------ "Ruin for Gallente, Glory for Caldari, Corpses for Jubba the Mad" [i](Last incomming signal recorded by Quafe Convoy, destroyed near Jel VI.

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