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![Dressy Dressy](https://images.evetech.net/characters/1729676575/portrait?size=64)
Dressy
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Posted - 2009.05.06 11:57:00 -
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Edited by: Dressy on 06/05/2009 11:58:16 Just a request to any present or future member of the council. Could someone please press the issue of downtime during Australian prime time gaming hours please?
Every day, every night, without fail, we have to put up with almost one hour of downtime. And before the EU and US people all start saying getting over it, just put yourself in our shoes and imagine if the game you love playing got shut down during the few hours you got to play each night.
You can't tell me that rotating the downtime isn't possible. Make it earlier, make it later, just come to a compromise please. I have many mates very interested in the game but are turned off by this downtime every night. By the time us Aussies have dinner, spend time with the family, and then get on the PC we have very little time before the game shuts down.
Edit: Some1 got in before me, but i will leave this up.
Does CCP even care about us Aussies (I'm sure there are other nationalities affected too) or is it just egg on our faces?
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![FarosWarrior FarosWarrior](https://images.evetech.net/characters/193384577/portrait?size=64)
FarosWarrior
Amarr Sonnema
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Posted - 2009.05.06 12:09:00 -
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rotating DT will just move this problem to another TZ, and no offense but I think there are more europeans/americans/UK people playing then australians cheers, Faros
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![Kaivos Kaivos](https://images.evetech.net/characters/664621569/portrait?size=64)
Kaivos
Pyydys
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Posted - 2009.05.06 12:17:00 -
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**** you, this has been explained to death. use the search.
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![Grez Grez](https://images.evetech.net/characters/992264960/portrait?size=64)
Grez
Minmatar Core Contingency
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Posted - 2009.05.06 12:20:00 -
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No-one at CCP works during the hours you want DT moved to. --- Grez: I shot the sheriff Kalazar: But I could not lock the Deputy BECAUSE OF FALCON |
![BBQ BBQ](https://images.evetech.net/characters/630384716/portrait?size=64)
BBQ
Gallente Federal Defence Union
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Posted - 2009.05.06 12:28:00 -
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Originally by: Dressy Edited by: Dressy on 06/05/2009 11:58:16 Just a request to any present or future member of the council. Could someone please press the issue of downtime during Australian prime time gaming hours please?
Every day, every night, without fail, we have to put up with almost one hour of downtime. And before the EU and US people all start saying getting over it, just put yourself in our shoes and imagine if the game you love playing got shut down during the few hours you got to play each night.
You can't tell me that rotating the downtime isn't possible. Make it earlier, make it later, just come to a compromise please. I have many mates very interested in the game but are turned off by this downtime every night. By the time us Aussies have dinner, spend time with the family, and then get on the PC we have very little time before the game shuts down.
Edit: Some1 got in before me, but i will leave this up.
Does CCP even care about us Aussies (I'm sure there are other nationalities affected too) or is it just egg on our faces?
Eve servers in London
Are you volunteering to pay the 4x pay for the server techs, CCP techs and everyone else to work unsociable hours that has to be around when the DT happens rather than just on call or doing their normal jobs.
Also, shifting DT will affect others and their playing and when the subscription was take out by myself I knew DT was 11-12 GMT so work around it (gives me chance to have lunch etc etc).
Its been done to death, DT will not move and has been the same since eve started (one or two have been missed before but only for a trial) ----
God gave us a brain, he also gave us a voice.
Shame some people have yet to connect them.
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![Weight Watchers Weight Watchers](https://images.evetech.net/characters/2042324248/portrait?size=64)
Weight Watchers
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Posted - 2009.05.06 13:09:00 -
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Originally by: Grez No-one at CCP works during the hours you want DT moved to.
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![Doctor Penguin Doctor Penguin](https://images.evetech.net/characters/1122801833/portrait?size=64)
Doctor Penguin
Amarr Celestial Ascension Tenth Legion
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Posted - 2009.05.06 13:21:00 -
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I forgot that Shanghai is near Bristol. Stupid Geography skills. ________________________________________________
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![Sniper Wolf18 Sniper Wolf18](https://images.evetech.net/characters/1299912371/portrait?size=64)
Sniper Wolf18
Gallente A Pretty Pony Princess General Tso's Alliance
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Posted - 2009.05.06 13:24:00 -
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Edited by: Sniper Wolf18 on 06/05/2009 13:26:19 Maybe this will give you some insight as to why you dont get your own personilised DT.
Edit: Fix'd link And to finish, thank you for reading my sig -------------------------------------------------- If you are still reading i would probably hav posted by now |
![Dressy Dressy](https://images.evetech.net/characters/1729676575/portrait?size=64)
Dressy
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Posted - 2009.05.06 13:27:00 -
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I of course realize that we have a lot of selfish trolls around the place so it was expected to see them come out. I wonder if any of them would be so tough in real life? Nah, who am I'm kidding.
Guess i will just have to put up with the internet cowboys from Brokeback mountian.
Here's hoping CCP will one day take action though.
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![Sniper Wolf18 Sniper Wolf18](https://images.evetech.net/characters/1299912371/portrait?size=64)
Sniper Wolf18
Gallente A Pretty Pony Princess General Tso's Alliance
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Posted - 2009.05.06 13:37:00 -
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Originally by: Dressy I of course realize that we have a lot of selfish trolls around the place so it was expected to see them come out. I wonder if any of them would be so tough in real life? Nah, who am I'm kidding.
Guess i will just have to put up with the internet cowboys from Brokeback mountian.
Here's hoping CCP will one day take action though.
The resemblance is shocking! And to finish, thank you for reading my sig -------------------------------------------------- If you are still reading i would probably hav posted by now |
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![Joe Joe](https://images.evetech.net/characters/286218604/portrait?size=64)
Joe
Umbra Legion Shadow Empire.
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Posted - 2009.05.06 13:45:00 -
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How about it gos down every hour, for 2 minutes, or better yet, at a random time, drawn each day by the old tech II lottery calculator![Very Happy](/images/icon_biggrin.gif)
you can post your request in the Assembly Hall, to see if any Reps are foolish enough to Alienate themselves from the majority of the playerbase, Just for us Aussies tho![Wink](/images/icon_wink.gif)
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![FarosWarrior FarosWarrior](https://images.evetech.net/characters/193384577/portrait?size=64)
FarosWarrior
Amarr Sonnema
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Posted - 2009.05.06 13:56:00 -
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Originally by: Dressy I of course realize that we have a lot of selfish trolls around the place so it was expected to see them come out. I wonder if any of them would be so tough in real life? Nah, who am I'm kidding.
Guess i will just have to put up with the internet cowboys from Brokeback mountian.
Here's hoping CCP will one day take action though.
bolded the most important part
you say EVERYONE ELSE in EVE, except YOU are selfish for voting against moving of a DT, because you miss playtime in the evenings, you want CCP to move it for the sake of the aussies playing the game, and then shifting the problem to a TZ which is more represented? I think you are the one here who thinks of nobody but himself cheers, Faros
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![Dressy Dressy](https://images.evetech.net/characters/1729676575/portrait?size=64)
Dressy
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Posted - 2009.05.06 14:21:00 -
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Originally by: FarosWarrior
Originally by: Dressy I of course realize that we have a lot of selfish trolls around the place so it was expected to see them come out. I wonder if any of them would be so tough in real life? Nah, who am I'm kidding.
Guess i will just have to put up with the internet cowboys from Brokeback mountian.
Here's hoping CCP will one day take action though.
bolded the most important part
you say EVERYONE ELSE in EVE, except YOU are selfish for voting against moving of a DT, because you miss playtime in the evenings, you want CCP to move it for the sake of the aussies playing the game, and then shifting the problem to a TZ which is more represented? I think you are the one here who thinks of nobody but himself
You and the others of course are so right. Your arguments are spot on, well constructed, and very thought out. There is of course no way possible to find any chance of a compromise. I also failed to see how unselfish you were actually being by suggesting that us Aussies lump it or leave it because everyone else was happy with the arrangement.I also sincerely apologize to CCP for even thinking that at 9am, a very unreasonable working hour, or even say 4pm ,its beer o'clock one really can't work then, that they have their maintenance techs maintain the super-dooper, can't change the shutdown timer, computer. I must admit it didn't occur to me that European's only worked a few hours a day and anything over four hours was rated as overtime.
Bye bye.
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![Nova Fox Nova Fox](https://images.evetech.net/characters/656055035/portrait?size=64)
Nova Fox
Gallente Novafox Shipyards
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Posted - 2009.05.06 14:29:00 -
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ccp also works in iceland thier window to tweak stuff is pertty limited by another hour, they preplan thier tweaks in the morning, get the work request done and all setup, then they let DT do its thing for 15 minutes then the devs get about 30 minutes to play around and then put everything back to where it was and finish the startup all over again, then they have to have the after dt meeting to get farmed numbers and tweak results, and lately the devs have been playing quite alot with tweaks its propably in preperation for ambulation and other improved networking abilities like that explained in the second log.
I get irked by it as well too, I work a shift where it does effect me, but hey Im getting more sleep than usually and getting more artwork done. If you want lessen your dt woes dont start playing before DT starts play after its over, it wont be as bad.
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![Haks'he Lirky Haks'he Lirky](https://images.evetech.net/characters/173149494/portrait?size=64)
Haks'he Lirky
Burning Bright Inc.
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Posted - 2009.05.06 14:37:00 -
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I guess the only way CCP would be able to solve this would be to remove the Daily Downtime. This would require a complete overhaul of how they do things currently and I think CCP is not going to do that.
So while I think they do care about you Aussies I am convinced that their hands are tied when it comes to this subject.
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![Nova Fox Nova Fox](https://images.evetech.net/characters/656055035/portrait?size=64)
Nova Fox
Gallente Novafox Shipyards
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Posted - 2009.05.06 14:39:00 -
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Originally by: Haks'he Lirky I guess the only way CCP would be able to solve this would be to remove the Daily Downtime. This would require a complete overhaul of how they do things currently and I think CCP is not going to do that.
So while I think they do care about you Aussies I am convinced that their hands are tied when it comes to this subject.
Removing DT not out of the question, its possible in theory they are not prepared to do that yet and spend the massive revenue they dont have in order to acheive this at the current time.
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![Jer Bu Jer Bu](https://images.evetech.net/characters/169785930/portrait?size=64)
Jer Bu
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Posted - 2009.05.06 15:11:00 -
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The OP's request was certainly not unreasonable. A lot of the di** answers were however.
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![Sniper Wolf18 Sniper Wolf18](https://images.evetech.net/characters/1299912371/portrait?size=64)
Sniper Wolf18
Gallente A Pretty Pony Princess General Tso's Alliance
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Posted - 2009.05.06 15:21:00 -
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If they move the DT to 9am the devs have to get in much earlier to prep for the DT. If they move the DT to 4pm and somthing goes wrong, the devs will be in work fixing the problem and the DT will run into the primetime for the MAJORITY OF THE EVE PLAYERS.
If you do not like the current downtime where you live, i would suggest changing to a country closer to GMT. And to finish, thank you for reading my sig -------------------------------------------------- If you are still reading i would probably hav posted by now |
![Drake Draconis Drake Draconis](https://images.evetech.net/characters/588365301/portrait?size=64)
Drake Draconis
Minmatar Shadow Cadre People for Organised Peace
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Posted - 2009.05.06 15:35:00 -
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Whine Thread is Successful Whine.
Would you like cheese with that?
Learn to use the search feature moron. And try reading before responding.... hypocritical troll. ========================= CEO of Shadow Cadre http://www.shadowcadre.com ========================= Dependable, Honorable, Intelligent, No-nonsense Vote Herschel Yamamoto for CSM! |
![Micheal Dietrich Micheal Dietrich](https://images.evetech.net/characters/1475880492/portrait?size=64)
Micheal Dietrich
Caldari
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Posted - 2009.05.06 15:44:00 -
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Originally by: Dressy I of course realize that we have a lot of selfish trolls around the place so it was expected to see them come out. I wonder if any of them would be so tough in real life? Nah, who am I'm kidding.
Guess i will just have to put up with the internet cowboys from Brokeback mountian.
Here's hoping CCP will one day take action though.
I believe that is known as a real life threat. Ban his ass CCP!
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![Herschel Yamamoto Herschel Yamamoto](https://images.evetech.net/characters/306181937/portrait?size=64)
Herschel Yamamoto
Bloodmoney Incorporated
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Posted - 2009.05.06 16:10:00 -
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Yeah, I get that it's irritating. Thing is, DT will always have to be right in someone's way. Downsides of living on a round planet, really. Australia is a fairly small market, and your prime play hours are CCP's prime work hours. Looks like you get to bite the bullet. It's not fair - really, it sucks - but there's not really much possible in the way of a comprimise that moves it out of your TZ that doesn't shaft some other big group of players and/or CCP's internal schedules.
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![Shadow Devourer Shadow Devourer](https://images.evetech.net/characters/1991227738/portrait?size=64)
Shadow Devourer
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Posted - 2009.05.06 16:20:00 -
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The good of the many > the good of the few.
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![Daedalus II Daedalus II](https://images.evetech.net/characters/1077867158/portrait?size=64)
Daedalus II
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Posted - 2009.05.06 17:00:00 -
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Originally by: Sniper Wolf18 If they move the DT to 9am the devs have to get in much earlier to prep for the DT. If they move the DT to 4pm and somthing goes wrong, the devs will be in work fixing the problem and the DT will run into the primetime for the MAJORITY OF THE EVE PLAYERS.
I assume you are speaking of GMT times?
What exactly is wrong with 9am? If they use normal work time they would have had 2 hours to prep, how much more do you need to prep for something that happens once a day? I'd say they have the process pretty streamlined after 5 years.
Moving it in the other direction is not very good as you say; that would affect a lot of players.
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![Isaac Starstriker Isaac Starstriker](https://images.evetech.net/characters/1700415845/portrait?size=64)
Isaac Starstriker
Amarr Solaris Operations
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Posted - 2009.05.06 17:40:00 -
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Well, to be honest, that DT is most convient for CCP. Its always going to tick someone off and apparently your one of them.
To be honest: LIVE WITH IT. Go eat lunch, ride a bike read a book do something other than Eve Online for an hour. You won't die.
--Isaac Isaac's Haul*Mart - Closed
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![Korerin Mayul Korerin Mayul](https://images.evetech.net/characters/1145126835/portrait?size=64)
Korerin Mayul
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Posted - 2009.05.06 18:42:00 -
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give it another few hours and it will be half way across the pacific. That could work, not meny Easter Islanders on here, is there? STFU Hawai, go sunbathe or surf or somthing.
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![Drake Draconis Drake Draconis](https://images.evetech.net/characters/588365301/portrait?size=64)
Drake Draconis
Minmatar Shadow Cadre People for Organised Peace
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Posted - 2009.05.06 18:49:00 -
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Originally by: Korerin Mayul give it another few hours and it will be half way across the pacific. That could work, not meny Easter Islanders on here, is there? STFU Hawai, go sunbathe or surf or somthing.
And just what time would that be smartass? ========================= CEO of Shadow Cadre http://www.shadowcadre.com ========================= Dependable, Honorable, Intelligent, No-nonsense Vote Herschel Yamamoto for CSM! |
![Micheal Dietrich Micheal Dietrich](https://images.evetech.net/characters/1475880492/portrait?size=64)
Micheal Dietrich
Caldari
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Posted - 2009.05.06 19:54:00 -
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Originally by: Drake Draconis
Originally by: Korerin Mayul give it another few hours and it will be half way across the pacific. That could work, not meny Easter Islanders on here, is there? STFU Hawai, go sunbathe or surf or somthing.
And just what time would that be smartass?
Well that would be GMT -10 according to this super dooper timezone map. That would make it roughly about 4 hours sooner than what the current DT is.
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![Drake Draconis Drake Draconis](https://images.evetech.net/characters/588365301/portrait?size=64)
Drake Draconis
Minmatar Shadow Cadre People for Organised Peace
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Posted - 2009.05.06 20:27:00 -
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So what time would that be in the 4 time zones of the USA?
How many players are on at the time? What time would that be in Iceland and the UK?
If you would use your bloody freaking brain youd realize someone somewhere is going to be ****ed off and it don't matter what time it is in Hawaii or in the easter islands...
They picked the time they did because THEY SAID SO.
end of discussion.
And for the 100000000000000th time this has been raised... the answer will forever be no. ========================= CEO of Shadow Cadre http://www.shadowcadre.com ========================= Dependable, Honorable, Intelligent, No-nonsense Vote Herschel Yamamoto for CSM! |
![Herschel Yamamoto Herschel Yamamoto](https://images.evetech.net/characters/306181937/portrait?size=64)
Herschel Yamamoto
Bloodmoney Incorporated
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Posted - 2009.05.06 20:35:00 -
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Originally by: Micheal Dietrich
Originally by: Drake Draconis
Originally by: Korerin Mayul give it another few hours and it will be half way across the pacific. That could work, not meny Easter Islanders on here, is there? STFU Hawai, go sunbathe or surf or somthing.
And just what time would that be smartass?
Well that would be GMT -10 according to this super dooper timezone map. That would make it roughly about 4 hours sooner than what the current DT is.
So 11 PM Pacific time. I'm sure the West Coast students will appreciate that. It'd probably make me go to bed sooner some nights, giving me a hard end time of 2 AM, but that's not always desirable. Also, 7 AM British time is not exactly when you want to do some of these things if you've got anything other than the exact standard downtime happening.
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![Micheal Dietrich Micheal Dietrich](https://images.evetech.net/characters/1475880492/portrait?size=64)
Micheal Dietrich
Caldari
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Posted - 2009.05.06 21:32:00 -
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Originally by: Drake Draconis So what time would that be in the 4 time zones of the USA?
How many players are on at the time? What time would that be in Iceland and the UK?
If you would use your bloody freaking brain youd realize someone somewhere is going to be ****ed off and it don't matter what time it is in Hawaii or in the easter islands...
They picked the time they did because THEY SAID SO.
end of discussion.
And for the 100000000000000th time this has been raised... the answer will forever be no.
Well that would make it about 1 am my time, 3 am Eastern, and Midnight west coast. I'm not sure about the UK or Iceland because I generally do not look at the clock when I play.
And I'm not sure why your barking at me, I personally like my current 5 am downtime while I sleep, I just pointed you to a timezone map.
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