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Andrey Wartooth
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Posted - 2012.05.09 21:17:00 -
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Olleybear wrote:Antisocial Malkavian wrote:However. Issler, stil pretty crazy lol
(had to keep it a bit on topic so they didnt lock it lol) This thread started with nothing more than character assassination of Issler. I may not agree with what Issler proposes for Eve, but that doesnt blind me or others in this thread that someone is trying to discredit the person instead of the policies Issler endorses. Watch any political add campaign in real life and you can see the similarities to what is going on with this thread. Saying that sociopaths dont play eve is ridiculous. Sociopaths exist in real life and obviously some are going to be in Eve. Claiming anything else is irrational. Does playing a pirate in game mean everyone who shoots little pixels is a sociopath? Of course not. That would be just as irrational. What this all is beginning to look like is that Issler wouldnt stay quiet like a good little CSM and it aggravated someone(s). They are now trying to discredit Issler the way a politician discredits people.
it's really a whole lot less than a "character assassination" and more of a "stupid idea assassination".
Quote:Saying that sociopaths dont play eve is ridiculous. Sociopaths exist in real life and obviously some are going to be in Eve. Claiming anything else is irrational. Does playing a pirate in game mean everyone who shoots little pixels is a sociopath? Of course not. That would be just as irrational.
Nobody is saying that sociopaths don't play eve, but there are quote a few people insinuating exactly what you say here, that everyone who shoots another player is a sociopath. |

Andrey Wartooth
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2012.05.09 21:38:00 -
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Olleybear wrote:Andrey Wartooth wrote: Nobody is saying that sociopaths don't play eve, but there are quote a few people insinuating exactly what you say here, that everyone who shoots another player is a sociopath.
Thats good we can agree on this. Now just one little step further. Does anonymity and zero consequences allow people to become who they really are? Others in this thread and myself believe this. Does this mean that all people become sociopaths because that is who they really are? No, of course not. Just like all people who shoot pixels are not sociopaths. Its the way of people and what I beleive Issler was trying to point out.
The whole concept of a video game is to allow a person to be something they are not.
Quote:...ladies and gentlemen of this supposed jury, I have one final thing I want you to consider. Ladies and gentlemen, this is Chewbacca. Chewbacca is a Wookiee from the planet Kashyyyk. But Chewbacca lives on the planet Endor. Now think about it; that does not make sense!
Why would a Wookiee, an 8-foot-tall Wookiee, want to live on Endor, with a bunch of 2-foot-tall Ewoks? That does not make sense! But more important, you have to ask yourself: What does this have to do with this case? Nothing. Ladies and gentlemen, it has nothing to do with this case! It does not make sense! Look at me. I'm a lawyer defending a major record company, and I'm talkin' about Chewbacca! Does that make sense? Ladies and gentlemen, I am not making any sense! None of this makes sense! And so you have to remember, when you're in that jury room deliberatin' and conjugatin' the Emancipation Proclamation, does it make sense? No! Ladies and gentlemen of this supposed jury, it does not make sense! If Chewbacca lives on Endor, you must acquit! The defense rests. |

Andrey Wartooth
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2012.05.09 21:39:00 -
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ITT nublets throw around the s-word with no evidence because they are buttmad. |

Andrey Wartooth
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2012.05.10 01:11:00 -
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Olleybear wrote:Andrey Wartooth wrote: Nobody is saying that sociopaths don't play eve, but there are quite a few people insinuating exactly what you say here, that everyone who shoots another player is a sociopath.
Thats good we can agree on this. Now just one little step further.
Wait a Goon agrees that anyone that shoots anyone is a sociopath?[/quote]
No, I said that
Quote:there are quite a few people insinuating exactly what you say here, that everyone who shoots another player is a sociopath.
This part i just quoted is a fact. I'm willing to bet that there are only a handful of people who are RL sociopaths in EVE.
Like was mentioned earlier in the thread, would it be okay to insist that those people who cosplay as Stormtroopers and other Imperial officers are real life fascists? |

Andrey Wartooth
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2012.05.10 01:12:00 -
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Olleybear wrote:Shian Yang wrote: It would be foolish to say a capsuleer acts like a sociopath in New Eden and therefore they are a sociopath outside of it.
Which is exactly what I said previously. Glad we agree.
If this is what you were saying all along, then you might want to take some lessons on how to better get your point across through text. |

Andrey Wartooth
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2012.05.10 01:32:00 -
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Olleybear wrote:Andrey Wartooth wrote: If this is what you were saying all along, then you might want to take some lessons on how to better get your point across through text.
olleybear wrote:Does this mean that everyone who pirates in game waits at the exit of a grocery store to beat up old ladies and take their groceries? Of course not. That is from my very first post in this thread which was even copied by another pilot and reposted again in its entirety. Perhaps its not the text I am typing but your reading comprehension.
Quote:Take away consequences for a persons actions and they will become who they really are.
You also said this though, which to me at least, means that while a person may not actually kill people in real life, if they do it in game, they must at least *want* to do it IRL. |
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