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Frank Monkey
Gallente Stevie Sparkle and the SuperSonic Love Commandoes
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Posted - 2009.05.09 10:28:00 -
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A duel is by definition: A prearranged, formal combat between two persons, usually fought to settle a point of honor.
Taken from Minmatar Militia intelligence channel...
[ 2009.05.08 00:39:22 ] Ferocious FeAr > So Frank [ 2009.05.08 00:39:28 ] Ferocious FeAr > I heard you are the best pilot [ 2009.05.08 00:39:39 ] Ferocious FeAr > feel like backing that up with a 1v1? and seven seconds later... [ 2009.05.08 00:39:46 ] Frank Monkey > sure
[ 2009.05.08 00:42:51 ] Frank Monkey > *wager?
[ 2009.05.08 00:43:02 ] Ferocious FeAr > your reputation as the best pilot in eve [ 2009.05.08 00:43:03 ] Frank Monkey > has to be something in it for me? [ 2009.05.08 00:43:46 ] Frank Monkey > How about you win, I leave militia, you lose, you leave? [ 2009.05.08 00:49:09 ] Ferocious FeAr > im more than happy to duel you frank [ 2009.05.08 00:49:14 ] Ferocious FeAr > I just know it will be you leaving [ 2009.05.08 00:49:17 ] Ferocious FeAr > but if it makes you happy [ 2009.05.08 00:49:31 ] Ferocious FeAr > If I lose I will leave faction war, but only if you dont cheat [ 2009.05.08 00:49:34 ] Ferocious FeAr > a true 1v1 [ 2009.05.08 00:49:42 ] Frank Monkey > rgr that [ 2009.05.08 00:49:46 ] Ferocious FeAr > you lose and you leave faction war for minmatar [ 2009.05.08 00:49:46 ] Captain Vaguy > needs to be honourable guys [ 2009.05.08 00:49:52 ] Frank Monkey > tomorrow then [ 2009.05.08 00:49:53 ] Ferocious FeAr > It will be honorable [ 2009.05.08 00:49:59 ] Frank Monkey > I agree to the deal [ 2009.05.08 00:50:00 ] Ferocious FeAr > I have never dishonored a 1v1 yet [ 2009.05.08 00:50:03 ] Captain Vaguy > both sides fair fight [ 2009.05.08 00:50:05 ] Half****edJack > what time? [ 2009.05.08 00:50:05 ] Ferocious FeAr > see you tomorrow then [ 2009.05.08 00:50:09 ] Frank Monkey > rgr that [ 2009.05.08 00:50:38 ] Frank Monkey > should be on about 2100hrs [ 2009.05.08 00:50:38 ] Captain Vaguy > done
Combat took place in Ossogur, at 21:35, outside the Urban Management Information Station.
Ship Types were FranK Monkey [Rupture] -v- Ferocious FeAr [Moa]
A straight forward cruiser engagement.
[ 2009.05.08 21:35:08 ] Frank Monkey > bye buddy [ 2009.05.08 21:35:11 ] Ferocious FeAr > gf [ 2009.05.08 21:35:18 ] xyeLz > gf? [ 2009.05.08 21:35:23 ] xyeLz > u R*ped him Fear? [ 2009.05.08 21:35:36 ] Ferocious FeAr > he won
The result of this combat was a resounding victory for Frank Monkey. Who was left with half armor and structure completely intact.
Frank Monkey being responsible for 100% of the damage on the FINAL STAND pilots ship.
No remote repping or other assistance was in operation. A straight forward, fair, 1-v-1.
The essence of a duel.
Post the duel, THE FINAL STAND and Ferocious FeAr have reneged on the wager and refuse to honour the agreement as recognised by everyone in Minmatar Militia.
It was not and is not my intent to deny Militia of valuable bodies in the fight against the Amarr Militia.
As is clear from the communications channel records.
I WAS CALLED OUT TO FIGHT.
I had little choice than to accept.
I fought and fought on my own, with no assistance and won.
My courage, strength and honour are reinforced by my conduct.
It is clear I am alone in this however.
Ferocious FeAr did not even have the courage to tell me in person that they were NOT going to honour the wager established prior to the fight.
He sent a minion to contact me by internal militia mail that "We will not be leaving." Indignant Assault [THE FINAL STAND].
They quoted some invented Concord intervention. Pathetic.
Ferocious FeAr pretends to be a 1-v-1 specialist, priding himself on his prowess.
You have been weighed, measured, matched and beaten.
Don't 1-v-1 these guys, they clearly are without honour and not worth shooting.
Frank ...of Stevie Sparkle and the SuperS

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Jade Constantine
Gallente Jericho Fraction The Star Fraction
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Posted - 2009.05.09 12:14:00 -
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I have a question for you Frank Monkey. Why would you propose a loss condition on this duel that helps the Amarrian cause whichever way the result might have gone down?
I mean, why not fight for honour. For ISK, for ships. Why propose a stake that ends up with either you or your duelling partner leaving the minmatar cause and thereby strengthing the Amarrians?
I'm interested in your response to this question first and foremost.
But that said I will say that having reviewed certain witness information on this duel I'm not happy with the way it was conducted and I would certainly not encourage any Free Captains of the Star Fraction to fight under those terms against anyone.
If in the future you do feel like dueling allies with more constructive stakes I will offer my own services as a judge and arbiter and ensure the terms are reasonable and the mechanics of the duel are fair to all parties.
Until that happens I'd ask you to refrain from these silly allegations against another's honour and capabilities since they make you look petty.
The Amarrians are the enemies in the Kamela theatre. Remember that.
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Barth Evader
THE FINAL STAND
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Posted - 2009.05.09 14:21:00 -
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From what I hear, a caldari jammer was involved and Fear kept getting concord warnings until he was in low shield.
Since you're in the same militia as me, I'll give you a discount on the reality check you will receive by smashing your ego into the ground after I watch your pod warp away from your battleship wreck, should you dare to accept.
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Cressy Maximus
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Posted - 2009.05.09 17:15:00 -
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[ 2009.05.08 21:35:08 ] Frank Monkey > bye buddy [ 2009.05.08 21:35:11 ] Ferocious FeAr > gf [ 2009.05.08 21:35:18 ] xyeLz > gf? [ 2009.05.08 21:35:23 ] xyeLz > u R*ped him Fear? [ 2009.05.08 21:35:36 ] Ferocious FeAr > he won
watching the chat in militia before, during, and after, makes the story I'm hearing now hard to belive.
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Ferocious FeAr
THE FINAL STAND
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Posted - 2009.05.09 20:22:00 -
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The duel of Osoggur was Frank Monkey using a fleet exploit and he clearly cheated.
He argued to be in fleet together for 20 minutes before the fight even though he was told over and over again that you get concorded in fleet in high sec.
I dropped a can that he refused to take. He dropped a can then immediately left fleet causing a session change where he was able to shoot and I was not.
I received concord message saying it was an illegal act. By the time I got out of that fleet and could shoot I had 15% shield left.
Frank had no interest in a fair fight, his only intention was to kite.
Considering he was called out today as an Amarr spy by Battlestar Crusader who told us Frank relays intel to the Amarrians every day.
It is a little hard for any of us to take this idiot seriously. Let alone honor a bet he cheated on in the first place. __________________ Built like a Rokh |

Frank Monkey
Gallente Stevie Sparkle and the SuperSonic Love Commandoes
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Posted - 2009.05.10 12:55:00 -
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Data of the engagement taken from my flight recorder at the time of the duel.
[ 2009.05.08 21:33:29 ] (notify) A new cargo container is being moved into the jettison duct. It will be ready in 2 Seconds. [ 2009.05.08 21:34:08 ] (notify) You have started trying to warp scramble Ferocious FeAr (Moa). [ 2009.05.08 21:34:10 ] (combat) <color=0xffbbbb00>Your Piranha Fury Light Missile hits Ferocious FeAr (Moa), doing 42.5 damage. [ 2009.05.08 21:34:10 ] (combat) <color=0xffbbbb00>Your Piranha Fury Light Missile hits Ferocious FeAr (Moa), doing 42.5 damage. [ 2009.05.08 21:34:10 ] (combat) <color=0xffbbbb00>Your group of 220mm Vulcan AutoCannon II is well aimed at Ferocious FeAr (Moa), inflicting 277.6 damage. [ 2009.05.08 21:34:11 ] (combat) <color=0xffbb6600>Hobgoblin II belonging to Ferocious FeAr heavily hits you, inflicting 74.6 damage. [ 2009.05.08 21:34:11 ] (combat) <color=0xffbb6600>Hobgoblin II belonging to Ferocious FeAr heavily hits you, inflicting 65.3 damage. [ 2009.05.08 21:34:11 ] (combat) <color=0xffbb6600>Hobgoblin II belonging to Ferocious FeAr lightly hits you, doing 38.8 damage. [ 2009.05.08 21:34:12 ] (combat) <color=0xffbb6600>Ferocious FeAr (Moa) aims well at you, inflicting 143.4 damage.
As can be clearly seen, Ferocious Fail was firing within 3 seconds of being warp scrambled.
You are a liar Ferocious FeAr and were blown to shrapnel.
As one of your own pilots admitted in militia yesterday.
[ 2009.05.09 10:47:51 ] xyeLz > Frank won [ 2009.05.09 10:48:03 ] xyeLz > Frakn won....end of subject [ 2009.05.09 10:49:17 ] xyeLz > no frank won fair and square in cruiser fight
I think thats pretty crystal clear and damning.
The accusation of being an Amarr spy is priceless but perfectly in keeping with a corp that are clearly a bunch of spinless toads.
I will have nothing more to do with this sorry lot.
They are simply unworthy of my attentions.
Frank [combat pilot] ...of Stevie Sparkle and the SuperSonic Love Commandoes...

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crockett EXE
Minmatar Mutineers
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Posted - 2009.05.10 18:19:00 -
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I wasn't around to see the fight and I don't have issues with either of these guys, but I've had the same issue and lost fights because of the concord warnings after popping a can. On the flip side I've won a fight or two because of the same thing.
Maybe ideally for something like this both players should agree to warp jam each other before firing a shot.
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Frank Monkey
Gallente Stevie Sparkle and the SuperSonic Love Commandoes
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Posted - 2009.05.11 09:11:00 -
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Originally by: Barth Evader From what I hear, a caldari jammer was involved and Fear kept getting concord warnings until he was in low shield.
Since you're in the same militia as me, I'll give you a discount on the reality check you will receive by smashing your ego into the ground after I watch your pod warp away from your battleship wreck, should you dare to accept.
An examination of the Minmatar Military database of ship destructions of the the Moa piloted by Ferocious Fail, clearly shows that he had the technicians reconfigure his ship on an active shield tank basis. The ship did not have any buffer armor or shield whatsoever.
Unfortunately this means that being brought to "low shield" was possible with two volleys from my rupture which was entirely damage [gank] set. In a rupture with autocannon weapon technology, we all know this takes a matter of seconds to do.
In such circumstances this fight was over before it started, since the Moa [without command ship!!!/ fleet bonuses!!!] would only have been able to regenerate about a quarter of the shield necessary to survive such a massive onslaught of damage.
The caldari jammer accusation is another red herring, designed by fools to muddy the water.
I did carry ECCM, but had no jamming technology on board for the fight.
Frank [combat pilot] ...of Stevie Sparkle and the SuperSonic Love Commandoes...

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Alica Wildfire
Minmatar Federal Investigations Agency
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Posted - 2009.05.11 09:51:00 -
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While I don't see any chance of a Moa to survive a fight like this against a Rupture by two experienced pilots of equal skill and the outcome was no question from the beginning, I question the result of this wager.
There is no use for the side of Minmatar to withdraw firepower from the front, even if both pilots have differences between them.
The contest was folly from the beginning. But now both have to deal with it. There is even no use in dishonoring anyone, so I suggest that Frank, who was the winner of this contest should reformulate the price that has to be paid, so that the loser can accept to pay it and keep his honor while we are not missing a gun on the front.
Next time a duel like this should be done through number of solo kills on the enemy with a certain ship or something like that. This serves the ego as well as the goal of this war.
And even if someone has to leave the Militia it should be limited in time and linked with an ordeal. Like "declaring one major Amarr militia corporation the war and destroy 500 millions worth of ships" or something.
A honorable warrior never humiliates the inferior, he gives him a chance to save his face. Especially when they are fighting for the same cause. Or am I wrong?
Ego, strong feelings of honor, aggression and ambition are no bad things to have. But they can be bad if they are not used in a constructive way, I say. Focus your real enemy, warriors. -- FREEDOM, PUNK & AUTOCANNONS
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Frank Monkey
Gallente Stevie Sparkle and the SuperSonic Love Commandoes
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Posted - 2009.05.11 10:05:00 -
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Originally by: Alica Wildfire While I don't see any chance of a Moa to survive a fight like this against a Rupture by two experienced pilots of equal skill and the outcome was no question from the beginning, I question the result of this wager.
There is no use for the side of Minmatar to withdraw firepower from the front, even if both pilots have differences between them.
The contest was folly from the beginning. But now both have to deal with it. There is even no use in dishonoring anyone, so I suggest that Frank, who was the winner of this contest should reformulate the price that has to be paid, so that the loser can accept to pay it and keep his honor while we are not missing a gun on the front.
Next time a duel like this should be done through number of solo kills on the enemy with a certain ship or something like that. This serves the ego as well as the goal of this war.
And even if someone has to leave the Militia it should be limited in time and linked with an ordeal. Like "declaring one major Amarr militia corporation the war and destroy 500 millions worth of ships" or something.
A honorable warrior never humiliates the inferior, he gives him a chance to save his face. Especially when they are fighting for the same cause. Or am I wrong?
Ego, strong feelings of honor, aggression and ambition are no bad things to have. But they can be bad if they are not used in a constructive way, I say. Focus your real enemy, warriors.
I have to agree with a large part of what you have to say Alicia. I was actually going to offer to forego the wager AFTER I destroyed the FINAL STAND ship of Ferocious FeAr. I recognised that the loss of their corp to the war effort was not the best outcome. However they reneged on the deal via militia internal comms BEFORE I was given the chance to be magnanamous and generous in victory.
However I can't have people calling me out all the time, with impunity, in the understanding that the only loss to them will be a ship. Preparing for these duels brings me away from the front and costs a lot of time and trouble in preparation.
Therefore if pilots feel that they must challenge me, then the wager will continue to be the same. If they care to disgrace themselves post the fight, as we see in this case, with lies and misdeeds then that is up to them.
Frank ...of Stevie Sparkle and the SuperSonic Love Commandoes...

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arbiter reborn
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Posted - 2009.05.11 10:25:00 -
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[ 2009.05.08 21:33:29 ] (notify) you have just won eve! congratulations!.
see i have proof i really did win eve
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Frank Monkey
Gallente Stevie Sparkle and the SuperSonic Love Commandoes
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Posted - 2009.05.11 10:35:00 -
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Originally by: arbiter reborn [ 2009.05.08 21:33:29 ] (notify) you have just won eve! congratulations!.
see i have proof i really did win eve
I think in a duel, its pretty clear who won, wouldn't you say?
The proof is a nice large explosion of the other guys crate.
Frank ...of Stevie Sparkle and the SuperSonic Love Commandoes...

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Ophey Won
Heretic Army
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Posted - 2009.05.11 23:50:00 -
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lol. Good Job on the 1vs1 Frank Monkey.
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Leopold Caine
Amarr Ordo Nigrorum Susurri Ordo Magna
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Posted - 2009.05.12 00:35:00 -
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Hm, and I always respected matari people for standing up to their ideals and honour. Whichever of you two is right, or wrong... you think Shakor will be interested in your little provincial war long enough? Miss Wildfire's attempts come from a beneficial heart, but I doubt you can make much of it. So, miss Wildfire, better jump back in the Maelstrom and keep writing minmatar warpoetry instead of trying to get various factions of your militia at their own throats. ________________________________________
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JIm Hammer
Minmatar Heretic Army Heretic Nation
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Posted - 2009.05.14 21:07:00 -
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LOL this is good stuff Frank, Cheers M8 good show. Again I suggest you reconsider you flight plan. Honor is not somthing you will find in the Minnie Militia FM's and certainly will not find it with the likes of Mr Fear, I can assure you he had no intention of leaving his meat shield.
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Reptar Dragon
eStars
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Posted - 2009.05.17 17:09:00 -
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Originally by: Frank Monkey and i quote "frank saying a lot of stuff"
it's not FINAL STAND it's THE final stand, get it right. secondly, would you be talking about this if you had lost the fight? probably not. also, who gave you the reputation of being the "best pilot in eve" :S
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Ophey Won
Heretic Army
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Posted - 2009.05.17 21:59:00 -
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Originally by: Reptar Dragon
it's not FINAL STAND it's THE final stand, get it right. secondly, would you be talking about this if you had lost the fight? probably not. also, who gave you the reputation of being the "best pilot in eve" :S
Its the Failed Stand you get it right. And I think Mr fear was the one who named him the best Pilot in eve. and Frank just proved it by tacking out Mr. Qu in stead of the F. ear. :p
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Reptar Dragon
eStars
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Posted - 2009.05.18 02:24:00 -
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Originally by: Ophey Won
Originally by: Reptar Dragon
it's not FINAL STAND it's THE final stand, get it right. secondly, would you be talking about this if you had lost the fight? probably not. also, who gave you the reputation of being the "best pilot in eve" :S
Its the Failed Stand you get it right. And I think Mr fear was the one who named him the best Pilot in eve. and Frank just proved it by tacking out Mr. Qu in stead of the F. ear. :p
oooo good one, i'll just write that one down in my trusty captain's log.
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Snake O'Donell
Gallente Dark-Rising
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Posted - 2009.05.18 18:33:00 -
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Edited by: Snake O''Donell on 18/05/2009 18:34:30 In the end it was -DARK that got TFS to emo rage quit Minnie FW. No need to thank us, all we want is a cookie.
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