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Alexander Kisiko
Caldari
Invisible Hand Legal Services
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Posted - 2009.05.09 12:59:00 -
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Hi There.
Are there any articles floating around on The state of the economy in lowsec specifically? Google and EVE-Search don't seem to be yeilding much.
If there are no articles, can I perhaps get some information from here?
It seems to me that the lowsec market is very spread out, with few trade hubs, and comparativly high prices. This could be just me, as I haven't had a chance to check areas outside of my current region at present.
Help would be appreciated.
Regards
Alexander Kisiko.
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Tres Farmer
Gallente Federation Intelligence Service
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Posted - 2009.05.09 13:21:00 -
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Besides the fact that low secs population is slim, there isn't much talk about markets there..
There was a post about creating market hubs in a system, where none was before and some BG-info how this can be done and what this sol sys needs to have.. maybe you should search into that direction.
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Akita T
Caldari Navy Volunteer Task Force
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Posted - 2009.05.09 14:35:00 -
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Lowsec mining and exploration is overall worse than highsec (barely the same mining income, only higher if you combine with exploration, drastically increased risk, nastier logistics), mission rewards aren't radically better than highsec (since the LP shops caused LP value to plummet), even the scarce BS spawns in belts aren't all that great... so none of the even remotely "carebearish" individuals have any desires to reside in lowsec, which causes the "economy" there to be pretty pathetic.
That's all that can be said about it.
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Anson Hoffmanta
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Posted - 2009.05.09 14:59:00 -
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It took me a few tries to get 2 haulers into low sec and get some isotope there, the margin wasn't spectacular either.
Low sec is just choc-a-bloc full of aggressive trigger happy pew pew folk, who "protect" their 0.0 gates from any trader trying to ship their stations any commodity.
There is no "real" economy because red flashing pirates won't think twice on shooting you and looting you. Though taking a convoy through low sec can be fun, any true flow of goods can't occur due to aforementioned dangers.
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Ms Delerium
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Posted - 2009.05.09 16:36:00 -
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as a experiment I hauled some common stuff to a lowsec system (border with high-sec) and add sell orders for 60% the average prices in region.
this was 2 weeks ago and theres still a lot of stuff to be sold.
The main problem is lack of balls to enter lowsec. I mean , even if there were bigger rewards (like there are in this case), 90% of population would keep living in highsec.
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Clair Bear
Perkone
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Posted - 2009.05.09 17:22:00 -
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Lowsec is fight club. You go there for cheap, goal-less fighting.
All pirates have their own hauler and industrial alts out of necessity. Markets in most of lowsec are incredibly low volume, which means high prices.
The only viable markets are the hubs in empire.
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Bad Bobby
Ugly Toys
Zzz
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Posted - 2009.05.09 17:40:00 -
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 Originally by: Clair Bear
Lowsec is fight club. You go there for cheap, goal-less fighting.
All pirates have their own hauler and industrial alts out of necessity. Markets in most of lowsec are incredibly low volume, which means high prices.
The only viable markets are the hubs in empire.
Pretty much this. I've now taken to running my pirate activities out of a wormhole which I use as a mobile base going to fresh hunting grounds with each new day, it wasn't much of a change to the logistics of living in low-sec. Fortunately most people in low-sec are on the move, so with a few SB hictors you've got easy kills wherever you go.
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PublicRelations Kwint
Lothian Quay Industries
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Posted - 2009.05.09 17:49:00 -
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The only market's worth noting in low sec revolve around capital ships. The denizens of few in number and largely self reliant. Their low numbers mean low volumes which mean large markups, these large markups and generally poor availability combine to encourage locals to be self reliant and that simply reinforces the poor market.
The only people that spend real money in low sec are capital pilots. Large numbers of capitals are built in low sec and it's always nice to be able to pickup your mods, fuel and ammo with the ship. More importantly, the NPC stations offer safety for 0.0 capital pilots both to rearm and establish staging grounds from which to launch there assaults. These pilots are generally wealthy and willing to pay a decent markup for the convenience of having what they need available in station.
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glas mir
Reaction Scientific
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Posted - 2009.05.10 04:31:00 -
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I don't know of any "hubs" in the true sense of the word, although many small hubs develop on the edges of low sec.
Therefore low sec markets cater to the immediate need and the mark up associated with that. I've read some posts explaining how if you know were a group lives you can build a market tailored for them at a modest profit and do well. I'm surprised eve-search showed absolutely nothing, you might want to expand your search terms.
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Esme Westenn
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Posted - 2009.05.10 21:24:00 -
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I have to admit I wish low sec was more economically acceptable. It may be one of the parts that Eve overlooked, or perhaps it was a deliberate decision. Risk vs. reward.
Regardless, I am new to this game, and the thought of becoming a heavy pvper and then being stripped of market privleges in high sec does concern me.
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Andres Talas
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Posted - 2009.05.10 21:29:00 -
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Originally by: Esme Westenn
I have to admit I wish low sec was more economically acceptable. It may be one of the parts that Eve overlooked, or perhaps it was a deliberate decision. Risk vs. reward.
Regardless, I am new to this game, and the thought of becoming a heavy pvper and then being stripped of market privleges in high sec does concern me.
Do what everyone else does ; create a second toon, train it enough to use a hauler big enough for your needs, leave it in a noob corp, and use that non-flashy toon to take your parts and ammo out to your lowsec base.
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Esme Westenn
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Posted - 2009.05.10 21:39:00 -
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Well... That makes sense actually. o_O I guess I'll make my alt today then.
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skeljita
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Posted - 2009.05.11 12:43:00 -
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eh, I make tons of isk in low sec manufacturing for people who dont have access to jump their stuff to low sec. New players coming into our space that cant use tech 2 stuff buy my tech 1 stuff which is marked up a ton. People get their cruisers/BS blown up every day and need replacements. Not only that but mineral prices are cheaper if i need to buy them and megacyte and zydrine are free since i can mine it.
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KittenSoft
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Posted - 2009.05.11 13:03:00 -
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Edited by: KittenSoft on 11/05/2009 13:04:14
Originally by: skeljita
eh, I make tons of isk in low sec manufacturing for people who dont have access to jump their stuff to low sec. New players coming into our space that cant use tech 2 stuff buy my tech 1 stuff which is marked up a ton. People get their cruisers/BS blown up every day and need replacements. Not only that but mineral prices are cheaper if i need to buy them and megacyte and zydrine are free since i can mine it.
*shakes head* if you set your prices with that thinking, you are underselling.
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Tres Farmer
Gallente Federation Intelligence Service
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Posted - 2009.05.11 13:30:00 -
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Originally by: KittenSoft
Originally by: skeljita
...Not only that but mineral prices are cheaper if i need to buy them and megacyte and zydrine are free since i can mine it.
*shakes head* if you set your prices with that thinking, you are underselling.
..but she sell's the stuff "marked up a ton".   
Oh well..
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Vaerah Vahrokha
Minmatar
Dark-Rising
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Posted - 2009.05.11 15:27:00 -
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Edited by: Vaerah Vahrokha on 11/05/2009 15:28:20
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as a experiment I hauled some common stuff to a lowsec system (border with high-sec) and add sell orders for 60% the average prices in region.
this was 2 weeks ago and theres still a lot of stuff to be sold.
The main problem is lack of balls to enter lowsec. I mean , even if there were bigger rewards (like there are in this case), 90% of population would keep living in highsec
As low sec dweller: people go to low sec for the pew pew, then come back to high sec and buy stuff for "cheap" to let them go back in low sec and pew pew more.
As 0.0 sec dweller: neutrals are possible scouts and / or carrying material to ninja assemble an enemy army inside your own territory => they are KOS like everyone else.
Moreover, both in low sec and 0.0, worthwhile corporations got their internal manufacturing / mining operatives, including recurring high sec <=> 0.0 Jump Freigthers and safety-controlled mining ops.
Keeping money within the same corp is also a boon, and being fully independent another.
Basically, there's an economy out there and those involved can have a steady income, but said economy won't accept outsiders.
Edit: individuals, as said above, will just use the cheapest indy and an alt for their limited needs.
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skeljita
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Posted - 2009.05.11 17:24:00 -
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Originally by: KittenSoft
Edited by: KittenSoft on 11/05/2009 13:04:14
Originally by: skeljita
eh, I make tons of isk in low sec manufacturing for people who dont have access to jump their stuff to low sec. New players coming into our space that cant use tech 2 stuff buy my tech 1 stuff which is marked up a ton. People get their cruisers/BS blown up every day and need replacements. Not only that but mineral prices are cheaper if i need to buy them and megacyte and zydrine are free since i can mine it.
*shakes head* if you set your prices with that thinking, you are underselling.
Scuse me? Did I say I mine it? No, I said I could mine it. I dont
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