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Aaron Francis
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Posted - 2004.09.04 03:08:00 -
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It's hardly theft. There isn't really a force strong enough to take TPAR from FA permanently, afaik. CA could do it if they dedicated a lot of manpower to it, but that's not even worth it to them.
But my point is that CA is making TPAR a war zone, not to liberate anybody, but just out of spite for FA, and it's really just causing a lot of undue trouble for miners.
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Aaron Francis
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Posted - 2004.09.04 03:08:00 -
[32]
It's hardly theft. There isn't really a force strong enough to take TPAR from FA permanently, afaik. CA could do it if they dedicated a lot of manpower to it, but that's not even worth it to them.
But my point is that CA is making TPAR a war zone, not to liberate anybody, but just out of spite for FA, and it's really just causing a lot of undue trouble for miners.
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Band Zior
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Posted - 2004.09.04 04:35:00 -
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Originally by: Aaron Francis
People like you and your corp are damaging the friendly place that was Period Basis.
OK, that's the slave mentality I was talking about earlier. Are there drugs for that? At least take therapy sessions. ---------- Richard Simmons in Space |

Band Zior
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Posted - 2004.09.04 04:35:00 -
[34]
Originally by: Aaron Francis
People like you and your corp are damaging the friendly place that was Period Basis.
OK, that's the slave mentality I was talking about earlier. Are there drugs for that? At least take therapy sessions. ---------- Richard Simmons in Space |

Asmodia
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Posted - 2004.09.04 04:44:00 -
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Originally by: Aaron Francis It's hardly theft. There isn't really a force strong enough to take TPAR from FA permanently, afaik. CA could do it if they dedicated a lot of manpower to it, but that's not even worth it to them.
But my point is that CA is making TPAR a war zone, not to liberate anybody, but just out of spite for FA, and it's really just causing a lot of undue trouble for miners.
CA was never in Fountain area active against the FA, but FA came to Curse. We looked this for weeks and started our own campain in Fountain and their taxing zones aka Delve , Period etc.
You pay the FA tax , so you pay their war. Your pay tax to make your home a warzone, so we make your home to a warzone. We made offers to give CFS/DSMA etc the posibility to stay out of this war and can live their way they want. But CFS (now know as 'cheap fountain slaves') rejected this offer.
If we live in a warzone with your taxes, you will live in a warzone. simple ? eh ?
------------------------------------------------ CEO of Spectre Syndicate - Curse Alliance ------------------------------------------------ |

Asmodia
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Posted - 2004.09.04 04:44:00 -
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Originally by: Aaron Francis It's hardly theft. There isn't really a force strong enough to take TPAR from FA permanently, afaik. CA could do it if they dedicated a lot of manpower to it, but that's not even worth it to them.
But my point is that CA is making TPAR a war zone, not to liberate anybody, but just out of spite for FA, and it's really just causing a lot of undue trouble for miners.
CA was never in Fountain area active against the FA, but FA came to Curse. We looked this for weeks and started our own campain in Fountain and their taxing zones aka Delve , Period etc.
You pay the FA tax , so you pay their war. Your pay tax to make your home a warzone, so we make your home to a warzone. We made offers to give CFS/DSMA etc the posibility to stay out of this war and can live their way they want. But CFS (now know as 'cheap fountain slaves') rejected this offer.
If we live in a warzone with your taxes, you will live in a warzone. simple ? eh ?
------------------------------------------------ CEO of Spectre Syndicate - Curse Alliance ------------------------------------------------ |

AvanCade
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Posted - 2004.09.04 04:52:00 -
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Originally by: Band Zior I understand your sentiments but I think my operation is misunderstood.
It is simply a PR stunt, nothing else. I need publicity, I don't want to make it secret!
All I am saying is for locals to
1) refrain from refining till the tax gets taken off 2) not be mean to ppl who are going to do that
That's all..
Your deeds should speak for you, not a stupid forum post.
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AvanCade
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Posted - 2004.09.04 04:52:00 -
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Originally by: Band Zior I understand your sentiments but I think my operation is misunderstood.
It is simply a PR stunt, nothing else. I need publicity, I don't want to make it secret!
All I am saying is for locals to
1) refrain from refining till the tax gets taken off 2) not be mean to ppl who are going to do that
That's all..
Your deeds should speak for you, not a stupid forum post.
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Aaron Francis
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Posted - 2004.09.04 09:15:00 -
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Originally by: Asmodia CA was never in Fountain area active against the FA, but FA came to Curse. We looked this for weeks and started our own campain in Fountain and their taxing zones aka Delve , Period etc.
Actually, it's my understanding that CA instigated this conflict.
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Aaron Francis
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Posted - 2004.09.04 09:15:00 -
[40]
Originally by: Asmodia CA was never in Fountain area active against the FA, but FA came to Curse. We looked this for weeks and started our own campain in Fountain and their taxing zones aka Delve , Period etc.
Actually, it's my understanding that CA instigated this conflict.
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Lustralis
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Posted - 2004.09.04 09:16:00 -
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Hmmmm. I've noticed A2 has been camped by CA for around a week or so now. Haven't seen FA coming to clear the pipe for us. If we are paying FA a tax (which we are) they should do so.
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Lustralis
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Posted - 2004.09.04 09:16:00 -
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Hmmmm. I've noticed A2 has been camped by CA for around a week or so now. Haven't seen FA coming to clear the pipe for us. If we are paying FA a tax (which we are) they should do so.
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Band Zior
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Posted - 2004.09.04 09:23:00 -
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Under my PR pressure FA has rescided tax for this weekend.
Rejoice and please refine all your ores now!!!  ---------- Richard Simmons in Space |

Band Zior
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Posted - 2004.09.04 09:23:00 -
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Under my PR pressure FA has rescided tax for this weekend.
Rejoice and please refine all your ores now!!!  ---------- Richard Simmons in Space |

benwallace
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Posted - 2004.09.04 11:13:00 -
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Originally by: Aaron Francis It's hardly theft. There isn't really a force strong enough to take TPAR from FA permanently, afaik. CA could do it if they dedicated a lot of manpower to it, but that's not even worth it to them.
But my point is that CA is making TPAR a war zone, not to liberate anybody, but just out of spite for FA, and it's really just causing a lot of undue trouble for miners.
Not really people have stop fighting so really the only thing fighting is the 1 fa frigate no back up no fight its how it gonna beuntil someone gets something --------------------------
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benwallace
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Posted - 2004.09.04 11:13:00 -
[46]
Originally by: Aaron Francis It's hardly theft. There isn't really a force strong enough to take TPAR from FA permanently, afaik. CA could do it if they dedicated a lot of manpower to it, but that's not even worth it to them.
But my point is that CA is making TPAR a war zone, not to liberate anybody, but just out of spite for FA, and it's really just causing a lot of undue trouble for miners.
Not really people have stop fighting so really the only thing fighting is the 1 fa frigate no back up no fight its how it gonna beuntil someone gets something --------------------------
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Trillium Hardson
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Posted - 2004.09.04 12:02:00 -
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In 0.0 space the general rule is that might makes right. I assume this is why FA has claimed the Tpar station. In the last couple of months FA has only released a few ships to retake the station and then reset the tax. What exactly is holding the general Tpar community from keeping the station? If you don't mind paying a tax you might be better served asking another alliance to safe guard Tpar for you. I think it would be a fair statment that FA has no interrest in the well being of the inhabitants of Tpar. Tpar is just a small steady income that helps the FA empire grow.
Personally if I was in a alliance that operated in and around Tpar daily, I would own the station untill FA finally showed a big enough presence to warrant giving my hard earned money to. From what I'm reading this is the general consensus of the inhabitants of Tpar.
My point is that you guys can cry about the FA tyranny, or you guys can pull your acts together, stop acting like your afraid of anyone that says BOO, and stand up for your selves, and whats right.
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Trillium Hardson
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Posted - 2004.09.04 12:02:00 -
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In 0.0 space the general rule is that might makes right. I assume this is why FA has claimed the Tpar station. In the last couple of months FA has only released a few ships to retake the station and then reset the tax. What exactly is holding the general Tpar community from keeping the station? If you don't mind paying a tax you might be better served asking another alliance to safe guard Tpar for you. I think it would be a fair statment that FA has no interrest in the well being of the inhabitants of Tpar. Tpar is just a small steady income that helps the FA empire grow.
Personally if I was in a alliance that operated in and around Tpar daily, I would own the station untill FA finally showed a big enough presence to warrant giving my hard earned money to. From what I'm reading this is the general consensus of the inhabitants of Tpar.
My point is that you guys can cry about the FA tyranny, or you guys can pull your acts together, stop acting like your afraid of anyone that says BOO, and stand up for your selves, and whats right.
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Kariss
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Posted - 2004.09.04 12:26:00 -
[49]
Is it just me or does this thread smack of deja vu? Lo people in Querious making a half hearted attempt to whine, hi CA proaganda still trying weakly to stir the locals into rebelling and greetings to the FA alts just, well, doing whatever it is they are trying to do.
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Kariss
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Posted - 2004.09.04 12:26:00 -
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Is it just me or does this thread smack of deja vu? Lo people in Querious making a half hearted attempt to whine, hi CA proaganda still trying weakly to stir the locals into rebelling and greetings to the FA alts just, well, doing whatever it is they are trying to do.
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Katya Detia
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Posted - 2004.09.04 13:18:00 -
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Outsiders seem to think CA started all of the Period Basis problems etc.. this is not true.. it has been brewing for along time. CA gave the chance to do something about it, pushed the matter a little..
This situation might benifit CA, but it also benifits the unhappy ppl aswell. ---------------------------
CEO: Black Sea Industries
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Katya Detia
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Posted - 2004.09.04 13:18:00 -
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Outsiders seem to think CA started all of the Period Basis problems etc.. this is not true.. it has been brewing for along time. CA gave the chance to do something about it, pushed the matter a little..
This situation might benifit CA, but it also benifits the unhappy ppl aswell. ---------------------------
CEO: Black Sea Industries
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UnFriendly Fire
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Posted - 2004.09.04 15:35:00 -
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Originally by: Lustralis
Hmmmm. I've noticed A2 has been camped by CA for around a week or so now. Haven't seen FA coming to clear the pipe for us. If we are paying FA a tax (which we are) they should do so.
We (Querious inhabitants) clear the pipe all the time, however since people have ships to move around in they do come back sometimes! Then we clear it again. If you think CA has camped it for an entire week your out of your gourd, unless you think Ascendancy, Black Avatar, Imperium Technologies, Legion of Steel Warriors etc are all CA.
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UnFriendly Fire
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Posted - 2004.09.04 15:35:00 -
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Originally by: Lustralis
Hmmmm. I've noticed A2 has been camped by CA for around a week or so now. Haven't seen FA coming to clear the pipe for us. If we are paying FA a tax (which we are) they should do so.
We (Querious inhabitants) clear the pipe all the time, however since people have ships to move around in they do come back sometimes! Then we clear it again. If you think CA has camped it for an entire week your out of your gourd, unless you think Ascendancy, Black Avatar, Imperium Technologies, Legion of Steel Warriors etc are all CA.
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Band Zior
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Posted - 2004.09.04 21:50:00 -
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My attempts to lower tax were not successfull as locals proudly defended BIG ownership of the station.
Never underestimate their attachment to their true master, FA.
Will keep trying tho. ---------- Richard Simmons in Space |

Band Zior
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Posted - 2004.09.04 21:50:00 -
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My attempts to lower tax were not successfull as locals proudly defended BIG ownership of the station.
Never underestimate their attachment to their true master, FA.
Will keep trying tho. ---------- Richard Simmons in Space |

Lustralis
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Posted - 2004.09.04 22:03:00 -
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Originally by: UnFriendly Fire
Originally by: Lustralis
Hmmmm. I've noticed A2 has been camped by CA for around a week or so now. Haven't seen FA coming to clear the pipe for us. If we are paying FA a tax (which we are) they should do so.
We (Querious inhabitants) clear the pipe all the time, however since people have ships to move around in they do come back sometimes! Then we clear it again. If you think CA has camped it for an entire week your out of your gourd, unless you think Ascendancy, Black Avatar, Imperium Technologies, Legion of Steel Warriors etc are all CA.
I'm not 100% sure. Maybe the last 3 days or so (I haven't been on all the time :) I've been at the gate once with my alt and some other DSMA members and have participated in the clearance you speak of on more than one occassion. Usually its clearish, but recently there were 10-15 CA in A2.
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Lustralis
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Posted - 2004.09.04 22:03:00 -
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Originally by: UnFriendly Fire
Originally by: Lustralis
Hmmmm. I've noticed A2 has been camped by CA for around a week or so now. Haven't seen FA coming to clear the pipe for us. If we are paying FA a tax (which we are) they should do so.
We (Querious inhabitants) clear the pipe all the time, however since people have ships to move around in they do come back sometimes! Then we clear it again. If you think CA has camped it for an entire week your out of your gourd, unless you think Ascendancy, Black Avatar, Imperium Technologies, Legion of Steel Warriors etc are all CA.
I'm not 100% sure. Maybe the last 3 days or so (I haven't been on all the time :) I've been at the gate once with my alt and some other DSMA members and have participated in the clearance you speak of on more than one occassion. Usually its clearish, but recently there were 10-15 CA in A2.
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Aaron Francis
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Posted - 2004.09.05 01:09:00 -
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Whatever. The misguided CA can do as they please.
CA obviously didn't understand the situation in PB before they came in - but it's just a game and it's going to stay that way.
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Aaron Francis
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Posted - 2004.09.05 01:09:00 -
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Whatever. The misguided CA can do as they please.
CA obviously didn't understand the situation in PB before they came in - but it's just a game and it's going to stay that way.
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