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Kinetic Wolf
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Posted - 2009.05.10 11:31:00 -
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Im buying a new rig, for general purposes, and mostly playing EVE Online at max resolution (1920x1200)
What about this:
- AMD Phenom II x3 920BE
- Gigabyte GA-MA790XT-UD4P AM3
- 3x2GB DDR3 1333mhz
- ATI HD4890 1GB
- Western Digital Caviar SE16 640GB
- HP LP2475w screen 24" H-IPS
I will run 2 clients at same time, and I want max details and smooth framerate when in big battles 
Ive read EVE is not demanding too much graphics, and the main problem is lack of memory when running multiple clients, thats why I pick 3x2GB. But maybe, its overkill and I can go with 3x1GB. Opinions?
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Gefjon Eclipse
Amarr
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Posted - 2009.05.10 11:51:00 -
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Edited by: Gefjon Eclipse on 10/05/2009 11:50:58
You didn't mention which OS you intend to use.
Remember that if you have a 32-bit OS, it will only see 3.4Gb of RAM (approx).
If you use a 64-bit OS, then there is no problem. AFAIK, no existing machine can hold more RAM than a 64-bit OS can read. 
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Arr0wyx
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Posted - 2009.05.10 12:49:00 -
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 Originally by: Kinetic Wolf
I will run 2 clients at same time, and I want max details and smooth framerate when in big battles
Ive read EVE is not demanding too much graphics, and the main problem is lack of memory when running multiple clients, thats why I pick 3x2GB. But maybe, its overkill and I can go with 3x1GB. Opinions?
You will need at least 4GB to run 2 clients on the same computer smoothly especially if you run with the resource cache enabled. Also do you mean Phenom II x3 720 or Phenom x4 920? I'm assuming you meant the x3 720 in which case I would advise you to spend the extra money and get a Phenom II x4 instead. The quad core will offer better performance for a longer than the triple core would.
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Noosen
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Posted - 2009.05.10 20:01:00 -
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Would that be 1 x 24" display or 2 running parallel?
There is quite a difference between a task switching setup and a multi.
If you want to run x2 displays and clients I'd say the 4 core and 4gb ram with the ram at minimum.
If you want to switch then just the 3 cores and 4gb...
(memory is your friend either way as is an x64 OS, personally I always use 2gb per core as the rule)
P.s.
Don't skimp on your power supply. Sooner or later you will want to add another accelerator or more drives and getting a brown out cos your PSU is under sucks. That and get yourself a modular PSU to keep things neat.
P.P.s. That motherboard config is terrible.
Make sure the CPU fan orientation isn't blowing hot onto your memory if you are using Air.
If its venting both up and down as opposed to L/R make sure the accelerator fans are going 'out' and the hot air from the CPU downdraught has somewhere to go.
Water would be fine though.
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alambar
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Posted - 2009.05.10 20:43:00 -
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My pc hits an avg of 140fps in eve at that resolution with hdr on. You should have no problem getting a good frame rate...and your right eve is not demanding , in fact the original far cry game is more demanding...
Videocard: BFG-GTX 260 overclocked with 182.06 drivers.
Processor: Intel Core 2 Duo extreme 6800 2.8 gig.
Mainboard: Gigabyte Ultra Durable.
Memory: 4gigs of Corsair XMS2 DDR.
Soundcard: x-fi xtreme music.
PSU: PC POWER and Cooling 550 with 38 amps on the 12v rail.
vista home premium 32bit.
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Korrakas
Caldari
Legion of Ascension
Beyond Ascension
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Posted - 2009.05.10 21:05:00 -
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thats 3.5 Gigs including graphics memory and RAM so 64bit is almost essential, also possible CF 2 cheaper cards as you are dual clients
Originally by: CCP Mitnal
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Kinetic Wolf
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Posted - 2009.05.11 09:14:00 -
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hey thanks
yes I meant x3 720BE, sorry.
its just 1 lcd, I will switch the clients. if theres a wat to splash both them in screen at a time (maybe 1920x600?) well who knows maybe its more useful 
i will use Vista 64, waiting for windows seven as it seems more improved for gaming.
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piratezxp
Caldari
Gene Works
Initiative Associates
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Posted - 2009.05.11 09:23:00 -
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tbh mate i would go with the Dell 24", i have owned this monitor and the quality is just so nice.
but other than that it looks pretty good
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Posted - 2009.05.14 16:08:00 -
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Your in luck because I can give you some advice from experience as I am running three clients at 1920 1200 with "almost" all settings on full.
First thing to note is that if you want to run eve on the absolute maximum settings then despite what you have been told you will need a fairly decent GPU so dont negelect it. The HDR and bloom option along with the interval setting to instant at 1920 x 1200 will stress most of the medium range graphics cards even with one client running. I am running an 8800 GTS 512MB and it will run one client at absolute maximum settings although I usually switch interval to default as it gives only a slight improvement in quality and causes the GPU fan to spin crazily. When it comes to running two clients then I switch the HDR and bloom off as well, although it will run with them both on you will get tearing and reduced performance. With three clients if you ever decide to create a third alt its a similar situation to running two except that tearing and performance is more exagerated.
The next factor you should consider is memory. I run three clients in windowed mode at the max screen resolution 1920 1200 on windows vista 64 with 2GB of memory and most the time it runs smoothly. There is a catch though, due to the way vista handles memory it will always try and allocate 100% of the memory even if it is only to background applications. This improves performance in general although somtimes after a few hours of playing it seems to allocate to much of the memory to background aps which causes the three clients to begin to stall. This can be alleviated by setting the application priority to high and although this has worked for me so far I havnt tested it extensivly so cannot confirm whether it will work all the time. With just two clients running though you should be fine with 2GB of high quality memory although I would recommend getting 3GB to be on the safe side.
So for running multiple clients in windowed mode that about sums it up, eve doesnt seem to stress the CPU particuarly so as long as your running at least a core2 or above you should be fine. Make sure you get high quality componenents especially with the memory and dont skimp on the PSU as another poster mentioned, a cheap one will blow your motherboard and any attached components after a few years of use as I have learned from experience. Just to note this advice is only relevant if your running the clients in windowed mode on a single monitor, dual screening is much more intensive and so if you decide that you may eventually upgrade to two monitors then im sure someone else on the forum will be able to give you advice.
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