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EVIL SYNNs Wrath of Fenris	Posted - 2009.05.13 07:44:00 - [31] Originally by: Plan Neun Edited by: Plan Neun on 13/05/2009 07:31:28 Originally by: EVIL SYNNs yeah come on.. HURRY UP WITH ALL THE SYSTEMS ALREADY! Do you see the thread title, does it say troll away? Don't think so. This just shows the thoughts of the Squids. "Were taking systems", "Were winning the war!" "OMG don't go into tama unless you have 40 people! But don't worry were winning". As for wolfy, yes I know were winning the isk war. If you honestly don't think wolfy are that important then you need to get your head around a war. But lets not go through this AGAIN. This was about a fair fight and the Caldari never engaged. Like last night when Andraz brought in 40+ again, and how did that go.. oh yeah WOLFY killed 10 (we don't even have 40 people signed up in CORP! and lost zero. He came back much later much smaller and faster and caught a raiper and their was much rejoycing \0/. Been in Tama a lot of times alone, didnt see you there though - crackin around! And FYI I smell good. More important, post with your FW char, so we can say hi.
Plan Neun Caldari KRAFTWERK	Posted - 2009.05.13 07:50:00 - [32] Originally by: EVIL SYNNs Originally by: Plan Neun Edited by: Plan Neun on 13/05/2009 07:31:28 Originally by: EVIL SYNNs yeah come on.. HURRY UP WITH ALL THE SYSTEMS ALREADY! Do you see the thread title, does it say troll away? Don't think so. This just shows the thoughts of the Squids. "Were taking systems", "Were winning the war!" "OMG don't go into tama unless you have 40 people! But don't worry were winning". As for wolfy, yes I know were winning the isk war. If you honestly don't think wolfy are that important then you need to get your head around a war. But lets not go through this AGAIN. This was about a fair fight and the Caldari never engaged. Like last night when Andraz brought in 40+ again, and how did that go.. oh yeah WOLFY killed 10 (we don't even have 40 people signed up in CORP! and lost zero. He came back much later much smaller and faster and caught a raiper and their was much rejoycing \0/. Been in Tama a lot of times alone, didnt see you there though - crackin around! And FYI I smell good. More important, post with your FW char, so we can say hi. I only post with my main dear, . "I cut your head off and put it in my TV-Set"
Ziriko Keplit	Posted - 2009.05.13 08:31:00 - [33] Originally by: Mitch Taylor The problem with the caldari is their fc's fail to realise that bydi etc are there to shoot 'everyone' they console their fear by telling their gangs that the gals have hired, worked with, in bed with everyone else. Actually there is nothing wrong with caldari FC, because that is confirmed and well know fact that Gallente militia IS wroking with pirates. Sniggs for example. You joined with them yesterday. Also previouslly gallente militia joined with pirats. So choice not to engage when there was multiple pirate gangs around with you was absolutelly right. Even when you are shooting pirates it is not 100% that that is not some trap. So stop working with pirates and came back later maybe we will work something out. Till then... that's your own fault that you did not got that fight. We are very much ok. Regarding rest - it is clear and obvious reason why there are not many gang fights between caldari and gallente militia. I think everybody by now has figred it out, but just like to smacktalk and put up other reasons. To get such fight you need to get 1. AVAILABLE ONLINE AND NOT BUSY FC from BOTH sides who is trusted enough so that people who will not know him will join anyway. 2. AVAILABLE ONLINE AND NOT BUSY ENOUGH people from BOTH sides AND (APPROX equal numbers OR fleet somehow should mislead other side about their numbers) *otherwise they will not engage Considering fact that: 1. militia hassomehow low numbers of active pilots comparing to 0.0 alliances and 2. people in militia has their own time schedules and plans and 3. fleets and other OPs is NOT mandatory. It is next to impossible to arrange meeting of two blobs of militia in single point of space. So IMO things will stay so while CCP will not do something to return people to FW in enough amounts so that pirates could be overblobed and booted out of FW systems. And amount of pilots and FCs will be enough to form fleets nearly 24/7.
Corewin NoD Imperium	Posted - 2009.05.13 10:15:00 - [34] Evil, seriously, wise up. Its a sad day when a fight doesn't happen on that scale, but we both know the node wouldnt be able to handle it. Its readily obvious you have a nap with the majority of the pirates who operate out of TAMA. When I see pirates actively engaging one of your corp mates instead of just chillaxin on the station with them, I may be inclinded to change my opinion. Your corp definately rocks the "Vulture" aspects of this game better than any other ever could, but thats what makes your post so bias. LAG, Desyncs, and any number of times people log out to regain connections lost, makes them extremely vulnerable to 3-5 man groups ganking them. Works wonders to be sitting in a belt when such an unlucky target lands there, lagged out, and easy to pick off. FCs smart enough, would see through the obvious fail such an engagement would create. Killing 10 ships a night to losing 1 or 2 ships is better than killing 10 ships and losing 20. Minimize loss and your fleets remain active, isk stays in wallets, and ship sizes remain constant. Get your fleet into a lagged out situation, with members losing ships left and right, and you are bound to lose alot more respect and people willing to fly under you than if you play it safe and get some reasonable kills under much better conditions. Either way the Gallente Militia is number cascading, while the Caldari Militia thrives. Deal with it, complain accordingly.
EVIL SYNNs Wrath of Fenris	Posted - 2009.05.13 11:14:00 - [35] Corewin, your quite right. I have amble respect for a lot of Caldari and their FC's, none more than Andraz, yourself and Gavin. As well as people like Ladel and CAIN. I just want, and the reason for all the smack, is for you, and I do mean the vast majority of Caldari TO STOP BLOBBING. The reason swigg and wolfy were blue was cause neither of us could get the numbers to fight the 40+ fleets we were seeing every night. However you can also see from our killboard swigg didn't just say "hello gallente want to be friends", we were killing them and them killing us but we both wanted to kill the blobs. So we did for a while. FW goes in cycles, (look at other posts by me), the peak of the caldari blobs is starting to drop down, Gallente will start to blob very soon, mark my words. All the while WOLFY will do small gang engangements, nabbing your guys 1 at a time from the blob. Grabbing a raven who never warped after the fleet etc. Last night you brought another 40, we ended up killing 10, losing none. You handed swigg their backsides but we didn't know what was going on, so its not like were holding hands with them. But LAG in low sec is BADDDDDD and we just want to see less blobs. Thats all. We want to see 15 man gangs (like andraz took out last night and killed one of our guys, us killing none, it was too late for us). The smack is to show you that blobbing is a waste of time, go out in corp ops not militia blobs. Thats what I want to see. What ABP do in OMS, what CAIN do.. even 22nd IF YOU HAVE TOO!. so this OP was about 2 blobs looking at each other and saying.. nahhhhhhh. WHAT A WASTE OF TIME, thats whats killing FW for the noobs. imho
Raimo Gallente Wrath of Fenris	Posted - 2009.05.13 11:58:00 - [36] Originally by: Corewin Its readily obvious you have a nap with the majority of the pirates who operate out of TAMA. When I see pirates actively engaging one of your corp mates instead of just chillaxin on the station with them, I may be inclinded to change my opinion. Just to add, no other naps than swigg which is(was) common knowledge and confirmed by now... We pop and get popped by all the other blinkies around, I'm sure the killboards will confirm this if you care to look. And we have indeed fought swigg a ton in the past... But I gotta agree on the blobs. Just scale down a bit, you will have much more fun that way. ---
Xianbei	Posted - 2009.05.13 17:20:00 - [37] Originally by: Draco Rosso I hope you guys had fun playing grab ass in tama, because it seems to be all the rage with wolfy. did you just try to make fun of wolfy for being pvp oriented while patting yourself for pve prowess ?
inVictu5 Caldari Black Rise Insurgents	Posted - 2009.05.13 18:39:00 - [38] HOW TO TELL IF YOUR COMPLETELY USELESS 1- you spend 95% of playing time monitoring tama/nourv gate 2- your alts/clones are docked at tama/nourv 3- you use T1 frigs 4- you post on the forums about internet spaceship laser duels 5- you have a POS and/or cap in tama 6- you use killboards
Raimo Gallente Wrath of Fenris	Posted - 2009.05.13 19:50:00 - [39] Originally by: inVictu5 HOW TO TELL IF YOUR COMPLETELY USELESS 1- you spend 95% of playing time monitoring tama/nourv gate 2- your alts/clones are docked at tama/nourv 3- you use T1 frigs 4- you post on the forums about internet spaceship laser duels 5- you have a POS and/or cap in tama 6- you use killboards Yeah, that sums it up quite nicely. ---
Tom Zanner	Posted - 2009.05.14 02:20:00 - [40] thanks I was considering FW but this convinces me not to bother
Shun Makoto Caldari 22nd Black Rise Defensive Unit	Posted - 2009.05.14 04:59:00 - [41] Originally by: inVictu5 HOW TO TELL IF YOUR COMPLETELY USELESS 1- you spend 95% of playing time monitoring tama/nourv gate 2- your alts/clones are docked at tama/nourv 3- you use T1 frigs 4- you post on the forums about internet spaceship laser duels 5- you have a POS and/or cap in tama 6- you use killboards Invictu5 wins at the forums.
Unfamed II Space Perverts and Forum Warriors United	Posted - 2009.05.14 12:59:00 - [42] Originally by: inVictu5 HOW TO TELL IF YOUR COMPLETELY USELESS 1- you spend 95% of playing time monitoring tama/nourv gate 2- your alts/clones are docked at tama/nourv 3- you use T1 frigs 4- you post on the forums about internet spaceship laser duels 5- you have a POS and/or cap in tama 6- you use killboards You're Originally by:* Sandslinger of CA So this wasn't a straightoff logoffski from our point of view, rather a tactical manoeuvre
K'racker Minmatar Brutor tribe	Posted - 2009.05.15 08:46:00 - [43] Originally by: EVIL SYNNs Edited by: EVIL SYNNs on 12/05/2009 07:50:22 ...(Don't argue with me, I was in both fleets ). ...Yes cudos to you, you didn't lose many ships, you killed a few pirates, including a CNR? But really, was it fun? ld have been the same on both sides. you spy on both sides how fun is that? you got movement and comms for both fleets yet they elude you and get kills.. you suck
EVIL SYNNs Wrath of Fenris	Posted - 2009.05.15 08:56:00 - [44] Originally by: K'racker Originally by: EVIL SYNNs Edited by: EVIL SYNNs on 12/05/2009 07:50:22 ...(Don't argue with me, I was in both fleets ). ...Yes cudos to you, you didn't lose many ships, you killed a few pirates, including a CNR? But really, was it fun? ld have been the same on both sides. you spy on both sides how fun is that? you got movement and comms for both fleets yet they elude you and get kills.. you suck Have I killed you? Have I? was you that stabbed itty V? were you? You upset with life, are you? Feeling all alone? Do you? Are you lonely? Come on the internet to get friends? The best thing about spying, is you don't know if its true or not! I heard (not through spying) a blob disbanded because they thought they had spys. That to me is worth much more than smack. Fly in smaller gangs, make spying harder. You'll enjoy it more.
Ratchman	Posted - 2009.05.15 10:50:00 - [45] I was part of that Gallente fleet that got slaughtered by the joint pirate fleet. Coincidentally, there were a number of Swigg pilots in their fleet, and I don't remember them saying "don't fire, they paid us good money". In fact, I think every one of the main pirate factions in Black Rise was represented in that fleet, which perhaps says something in itself, as I would expect pirate corps to be fighting each other over the territory and to establish dominance. Perhaps we should concentrate a little less on 'who has hired who' and realise that nobody has hired any pirate faction. Their loyalty is to themselves and no-one else. Even if you fought with them one day, they will shoot you in the back on the next. That's the nature of piracy. I lost a Armageddon in that little battle, but I don't mind losing it, because I had fun doing it. I would have preferred it to have survived, but it's all part of the game. And that's what this is. A game. Lighten up and enjoy it. Get some pewpew in. And in regards to the perennial plexing argument, can you just let it rest? Yes, you win at plexing. But what are you going to do when you capture everything and have nothing more to do? Sit on the forums posting constantly stating how brilliant you all are? How long before you get bored of the repetition? Yes, you win at plexing. It's not such a great accomplishment given a 5:3 numerical superiority, but you win at it. Case closed. Can we just PvP now?
Droog 1	Posted - 2009.05.15 12:21:00 - [46] Edited by: Droog 1 on 15/05/2009 12:21:14 Originally by: inVictu5 HOW TO TELL IF YOUR COMPLETELY USELESS 1- you spend 95% of playing time monitoring tama/nourv gate 2- your alts/clones are docked at tama/nourv 3- you use T1 frigs 4- you post on the forums about internet spaceship laser duels 5- you have a POS and/or cap in tama 6- you use killboards HOW TO TELL IF YOU'RE COMPLETELY USELESS 1-You spend 95 % of your time trading in hisec. 2-Your Corp has no kills 3-Go afk and blame it on drugs 4-Receive bought Isk from a 'friend' and make racist comments towards CCP employees. 5-Contribute NOTHING to your Militia.
RedSplat Heretic Army	Posted - 2009.05.15 12:30:00 - [47] Both Gal and Cal militia have hired Piwates at one point or another. More importantly, why does anyone care? Originally by: CCP Mitnal I don't sleep. I am always here. Watching. Waiting. Originally by: CCP Mitnal it does get progressively longer.
THEDON1 Dark-Rising	Posted - 2009.05.15 13:26:00 - [48] Originally by: EVIL SYNNs Edited by: EVIL SYNNs on 12/05/2009 07:50:22 So last night tama local hit over 100. The Gallente had brough a large BS heavy blob to say hello to the daily Caldari blob. In a shock move the Caldari FC left Nourv but not through Tama they went through high sec avoiding what would have been a nice 3 way (Galls v Cals v BYDI). This was after an hour of taking X's of getting a bigger gang and more battleships (Don't argue with me, I was in both fleets ). During this time WOLFY were having to chill out as the caldari that jump into tama to check if the star is still there were being killed by the gallente fleet. (however we did ninja kill a few people who were flying about). As it turned out Galls fought BYDI, didn't win. Caldari and their uber fleet ran all the way to heydilles through the long way to grab a Domi! ONE DOMI!!!! I got to say Caldari, bad show. You complain the gallente don't bring it, so they finally bring the numbers, you out match them (only slightly, I agree, but 1 jump from getting more ships when you die). And you run away allowing the local pirates the fun. Then you come back up the pipe and fight a much smaller BYDI gang and beat them. Yes cudos to you, you didn't lose many ships, you killed a few pirates, including a CNR? But really, was it fun? Would your guys not like to have had the chance to fight the Gallente (you know the ones who you signed up to fight?). Yes LAG.. WE KNOW but it would have been the same on both sides. So I guess the Galls will just go back to ignoring your 40+ nightly blobs that get a couple of kills as your not willing to stand toe to toe. Don't complain EVER again about going to OMS and not getting a fight, the poor Galls stayed in Tama for nearly 2 hours, just alerting every pirate blob in Black Rise to head to tama. Shame on you Caldari. humm thats strange the caldari always ran off when we took a 20man gang to there 40man gang
Damar Rocarion	Posted - 2009.05.15 14:53:00 - [49] Originally by: Droog 1 HOW TO TELL IF YOUR COMPLETELY USELESS Doctor, I need help! I'm agreeing with Droog on something.... Damar Rocarion Brigadier General
Kuolematon Rakentaja Lihamestarit	Posted - 2009.05.15 17:18:00 - [50] Originally by: EVIL SYNNs Join a real corp like Pervs or CAIN then your smack is worth it. hahaha! PERVS a real pvp corp?? they are bunch of girls edit: posting under alt in fear of retaliation... _______________________________________________ My main account Unnerf amarr!!
Ziriko Keplit	Posted - 2009.05.15 17:35:00 - [51] Edited by: Ziriko Keplit on 15/05/2009 17:43:15 Edited by: Ziriko Keplit on 15/05/2009 17:36:41 Originally by: Ratchman Perhaps we should concentrate a little less on 'who has hired who' To clarify things - I did NOT acuse Gallente militia in some "immoral deals with ebil piwats", since morality (aka space e-bushido ) will not work here for obvious reasons. Edit: You coordinated with pirates sometimes and there is nothing terrible on that. That is just fact that should be taken in calculation of our own actions. I simply pointed out that decision to not engage was reasonable and right due fact that Gallente fleet might be in coordination with pirates. As it turned out you was on your own but there was no way to get any guarantee on that. So choice of FC was right in context of all known facts. That's it, nothing more. Originally by: Ratchman But what are you going to do when you capture everything and have nothing more to do? Actually I am interested in that much more than "WIN" itself. I am very very curious what exactly CCP will do if that will happen.
Unfamed II Space Perverts and Forum Warriors United	Posted - 2009.05.16 21:48:00 - [52] Originally by: Kuolematon Rakentaja Originally by: EVIL SYNNs Join a real corp like Pervs or CAIN then your smack is worth it. hahaha! PERVS a real pvp corp?? they are bunch of girls edit: posting under alt in fear of retaliation... Yeah, the retaliation, it's coming. Liek srsly. Originally by: Sandslinger of CA So this wasn't a straightoff logoffski from our point of view, rather a tactical manoeuvre
Bad Messenger Space Perverts and Forum Warriors United	Posted - 2009.05.16 22:14:00 - [53] Topics like this makes me wonder why i am reading these at all.
EVIL SYNNs Wrath of Fenris	Posted - 2009.05.16 22:26:00 - [54] Originally by: Bad Messenger Topics like this makes me wonder why i am reading these at all. Man I just post afterwards to keep it going
Wizardus Wrath of Fenris	Posted - 2009.05.21 20:36:00 - [55] Originally by: Sapporo Ichiban stop generalising and reset standings with swigg if you want more fights Stop being an alt trolling biotch and realize that it was a mutual agreement. Both them and us are tired of Blobs and lag due to "Exessive Squidomatic Trauma" and "Beyond Remote Reppinitis". Something has to be done for all of us to have fun.
Sun Clausewitz	Posted - 2009.05.21 20:59:00 - [56] Originally by: Wizardus Edited by: Wizardus on 21/05/2009 20:51:20 Originally by: Sapporo Ichiban stop generalizing and reset standings with swigg if you want more fights Stop being an alt trolling biotch and realize that it was a mutual agreement. Both them and us are tired of Blobs and lag due to "Excessive Squidomatic Trauma" and "Beyond Remote Reppinitis". Something has to be done for all of us to have fun. As for me, personally I just donÆt' like the fact that just last week I had 16 people involved in my taranis kill. 16!!!! I was fighting your crow and your caracal pilot in my ranis. I won't give you the pleasure anymore that's for sure. Respects for keeping the fleets tight though. Maybe resizing your fleets to a minimum "ENGAJABLE" Size would make a change. Sure... by big blobs you mean when I go in solo in a condor and your SWIGGer friends are sittin 150k off the gate to jam me and remore rep your Gal buddies while they blast away at me Pick Three: Caldari/PVP/Solo/Success
chatgris Quantum Cats Syndicate	Posted - 2009.05.21 21:09:00 - [57] Seriously, you think that WOLFY is the only one blue to pies? How about the 22nd being blue with Beyond Good and Evil? How do I know? 1) Atraxerxes twitter blog talked about recouping a pilgrim loss due to him messing up standings, look on the killboards for a similar time. 2) Beyond Good and Evil help the 22nd fight in plexes (and actually didn't shoot at other caldari militia members in the fight where I was personally there) At least SWIGG are only allied with ONE militia corp, and openly shoot the rest of us.
Ziriko Keplit	Posted - 2009.05.21 22:03:00 - [58] Originally by: Wizardus Edited by: Wizardus on 21/05/2009 20:51:20 Originally by: Sapporo Ichiban stop generalizing and reset standings with swigg if you want more fights Stop being an alt trolling biotch and realize that it was a mutual agreement. Both them and us are tired of Blobs and lag due to "Excessive Squidomatic Trauma" and "Beyond Remote Reppinitis". Something has to be done for all of us to have fun. As for me, personally I just donÆt' like the fact that just last week I had 16 people involved in my taranis kill. 16!!!! I was fighting your crow and your caracal pilot in my ranis. I won't give you the pleasure anymore that's for sure. Respects for keeping the fleets tight though. Maybe resizing your fleets to a minimum "ENGAJABLE" Size would make a change. To Evil Synns - As you can see quoted post of Wizardus clearly shows that Gallente is happy with current situation. As far as I can tell Caldari is happy with situation too. That leads us to obvious conclusion - situation will not change (that was expected). So we have undisputed winner in this topic :) - Bad messenger with post: Originally by: Bad Messenger Topics like this makes me wonder why i am reading these at all. Whoever CCP reads this - I think you can close topic as it came to end (everybody happy regarding discussed question and we have winner )
Psyflame Overview Glitch	Posted - 2009.05.21 23:08:00 - [59] Well! Since we are on the subject of blobs I guess we would like to remind everyone of a recent Tama engagement. So a Caldari gang is roaming the pipe looking for targets. A lone drake decides he wants to go back to Tama unescorted. Okay, whatever, that side of the gate isn't usually camped anyway. Suddenly a cry for help; "Guys I'm tackled and going down! Fleet quickly turns and heads for Tama. We jump in and see roughly 12-13 gallente pilots there and Swigg coming in at range. The fight turns, and Caldari hold the field. Instead of a series of "gf" in local, it quickly fills with "noobs!" "blobbers!" "you suck!" "bring more blob!" http://killboard.caldarimilitia.org/?a=kill_related&kll_id=116841 So looking at the killboard we can conclude: 11 v 1? completely cool, that noob deserved it. 25 v 11? blobbers! L2eve!
Faranti Centro Caldari 3M Enterprises	Posted - 2009.05.21 23:19:00 - [60] Holy **** ! Psyflame is going to law school !

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