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Esharan Caldari	Posted - 2009.05.12 20:05:00 - [1] Hey so I jut got an email in game from a bad website I know - but it also says they sell 60 day plex (2x30 days) for $21 dollars.... Is it ok to buy that from them? It's the cheapest price I have seen for 60 day plex.. Thanks. I would post the link to show ya what i mean but I think thats against the rules... Can I ask a mod if its ok to post just so you guys can check and make sure its legal for me? Thanks.
LaVista Vista Conservative Shenanigans Party	Posted - 2009.05.12 20:07:00 - [2] I got the exact same evemail. And no, you shouldn't buy from them. Chances are that they are going to cheat you, or even steal your credit card information.
Niccolado Starwalker Shadow Templars	Posted - 2009.05.12 20:13:00 - [3] Edited by: Niccolado Starwalker on 12/05/2009 20:15:26 Originally by: Esharan Hey so I jut got an email in game from a bad website I know - but it also says they sell 60 day plex (2x30 days) for $21 dollars.... Is it ok to buy that from them? It's the cheapest price I have seen for 60 day plex.. Thanks. I would post the link to show ya what i mean but I think thats against the rules... Can I ask a mod if its ok to post just so you guys can check and make sure its legal for me? Thanks. I dont know if its legal or not buying plexes from them, but if I where you I would not shop there anyway. Like some reasons: 1. They are as you say bad guys. Do you want to support someone who also deals in ISK trade? 2. You risk keyloggers and hacking. Those sites aint exacly safe from what I understand... 3. You also risk being banned by CCP for doing business with them. Because for CCP you trade with bad guys.. 4. Being scammed If I where you, buy EVE game time code from the forums and do the trade the secure way through your account setting. This way no part can scam each other, and if someone does, CCP bans their arse fast! Originally by: Dianabolic Your tears are absolutely divine, like a fine fine wine, rolling down your cheeks until they flow down the river of LOL
5pinDizzy	Posted - 2009.05.12 20:24:00 - [4] Edited by: 5pinDizzy on 12/05/2009 20:27:06 $21??? WHERE? :D I been looking all over the net for cheaper plexes, but they all seem to be $34.99. Which is of course ú23. I not been buying them cause they are too expensive, waiting till starcraft 2 comes out and buying that for ú30 instead. CUDDLES FOR YOU! <3 <3 <3
Mr Reeth	Posted - 2009.05.12 20:26:00 - [5] Send me your full name, address, SS number, mothers maiden name, all your credit card numbers and a picture of yourself naked and I'll let you know if it's safe.
Akita T Caldari Navy Volunteer Task Force	Posted - 2009.05.12 20:32:00 - [6] Originally by: Esharan [...]a bad website I know[...]Is it ok to buy that from them? Would you buy ANYTHING ELSE from them ? Yeah, thought so. EVE issues\|Mining revamp\|Build stuff\|Make ISK
Esharan Caldari	Posted - 2009.05.12 21:05:00 - [7] Thanks dudes. I was just not sure cause its plex so I assume buying it would be O.K. but it does seem rather sketchy.
Malthros Zenobia	Posted - 2009.05.12 21:13:00 - [8] PLEX are in game items, you're breaking the EULA if you buy them any way other than the website's creation method. The reason that RMT WEBSITE is selling them is to try and launder ISK using players looking to save a few bucks. And you'll get the added bonus of identity theft, or do people still think RMT sites are clean businesses? Originally by: kieron The Carrier was never intended to be a solo OMGWTF mission-farming PWNmobile.
Lord Windu Amarr	Posted - 2009.05.12 21:17:00 - [9] How would an RMT website get a persons e-mail address if they hadn't previously given them the address? No I am not saying the OP has done anything bad in the past or broke any rules, far from it I am just curious. ☺ A Kirra Liu Presentation. Will give cyber for GTC ☺
Emperor D'Hoffryn EXTERMINATUS. Imperial Republic Of the North	Posted - 2009.05.12 21:21:00 - [10] Edited by: Emperor D''Hoffryn on 12/05/2009 21:21:32 Originally by: Akita T Originally by: Esharan [...]a bad website I know[...]Is it ok to buy that from them? Would you buy ANYTHING ELSE from them ? Yeah, thought so. This. All (Real)Plexes are supplied by CCP. Any re-seller gets their supply from CCP...hence why the price is the same everywhere. If this site is selling them (somehow, magically)cheaper...its a warning sign. I highly doubt you would even get a real GTC from them....they would prolly just give you the isk. If they are giving people real GTCs....then thats a laundering scheme I don't even want to think about. Originally by: CCP Whisper No it is not an official statement. Not everything surrounded by blue bars is an official statement which can be quoted as fact until the end of time. Deal with it.
Becq Starforged Minmatar Ship Construction Services Ushra'Khan	Posted - 2009.05.12 21:25:00 - [11] Originally by: Lord Windu How would an RMT website get a persons e-mail address if they hadn't previously given them the address? No I am not saying the OP has done anything bad in the past or broke any rules, far from it I am just curious. Originally by: Esharan Hey so I jut got an email in game from a bad website I know I'm fairly sure you've never given me your in-game 'email' address, but I suspect it's "Lord Windu". Am I right? -- Becq Starforged The Flame of Freedom Burns On!
Esharan Caldari	Posted - 2009.05.12 21:28:00 - [12] Originally by: Becq Starforged Originally by: Lord Windu How would an RMT website get a persons e-mail address if they hadn't previously given them the address? No I am not saying the OP has done anything bad in the past or broke any rules, far from it I am just curious. Originally by: Esharan Hey so I jut got an email in game from a bad website I know I'm fairly sure you've never given me your in-game 'email' address, but I suspect it's "Lord Windu". Am I right? Yah I meant eve-mail... not email
Delphi Grendalus Caldari State War Academy	Posted - 2009.05.12 23:30:00 - [13] There was that $10 plex guy a while ago, asking if it was a grey area because the seller was only asking for donations rather then "selling" them. Tear-stained ISK is the best kind of ISK.
DrAtomic Atomic Heroes Chain of Chaos	Posted - 2009.05.12 23:42:00 - [14] Originally by: Delphi Grendalus There was that $10 plex guy a while ago, asking if it was a grey area because the seller was only asking for donations rather then "selling" them. a fixed price for a mandatory donation is a asking price period. Also PLEX are ingame items and NOT GTC's if they were selling GTC it'd be ok, selling/buying plex out of game is not unless bought directly through CCP. - - - Originally by: CCP Prism X I can invent ways to get free candy for you where the implementation is so bad that you'd never want to see candy again in your whole life.
Washell Olivaw	Posted - 2009.05.12 23:51:00 - [15] It's really very simple: Situation A: You buy ISK from ISK seller, you use ISK to buy GTC. Sitation B: ISK Seller uses ISK to buy GTC, you buy GTC from ISK seller. The fact that the person buying the GTC has changed is irrelevant. Both situations are against the EULA. Originally by: Signature Everybody has a photographic memory, some people just don't have film.
Dire Radiant	Posted - 2009.05.12 23:58:00 - [16] Originally by: Washell Olivaw It's really very simple: Situation A: You buy ISK from ISK seller, you use ISK to buy GTC. Sitation B: ISK Seller uses ISK to buy GTC, you buy GTC from ISK seller. The fact that the person buying the GTC has changed is irrelevant. Both situations are against the EULA. Ehhhh.... How does situation B work? When you buy a GTC with Isk the time gets applied to you account when you accept the deal. You cannot re-sell it.
Delphi Grendalus Caldari State War Academy	Posted - 2009.05.13 01:02:00 - [17] Originally by: DrAtomic Originally by: Delphi Grendalus There was that $10 plex guy a while ago, asking if it was a grey area because the seller was only asking for donations rather then "selling" them. a fixed price for a mandatory donation is a asking price period. Also PLEX are ingame items and NOT GTC's if they were selling GTC it'd be ok, selling/buying plex out of game is not unless bought directly through CCP. I'd post a link so you could see for yourself but just incase it's illegal it's easy enough to find if you google "ten dollar plex". I personally am not quite sure if it's a grey area or not, I'd appreciate some CCP input here as I can't stand legal jargon and word twisting. Tear-stained ISK is the best kind of ISK.
Akita T Caldari Navy Volunteer Task Force	Posted - 2009.05.13 01:34:00 - [18] The EULA is pretty clear for this, and you don't need "CCP feedback". You are NOT allowed to buy nor sell IN-GAME items for real-life cash. A PLEX is an in-game item. So you're not allowed to buy it for cash, you're not allowed to sell it for cash. You can only buy/sell it for ISK, in-game. You are also ALLOWED to scam PLEXes. Nobody will do anything to you if you scam some. The only thing you are allowed to sell for real-life cash is GTCs. You are not allowed to buy GTCs with ISK unless you use the secure trade system, which automatically applies the GTC to the buyer's account. You can't send a GTCode's text in an EVE-Mail nor e-mail in exchange for ISK. Sending ISK like that will cause you to be considered an ISK SELLER and you risk getting banned. You are NOT ALLOWED to scam on GTC secure trades. You will be banned if you try it. People who offer to give you a PLEX in-game in exchange for money directly, be is for a sales price or as a so-called "donation" are trying to circumvent the rules. They will eventually get found AND BANNED, and everybody who ever received PLEXes from them will be also known, since CCP keep logs. The "I thought it was ok" line does not fly - just like in real-life, not knowing the rules does not absolve you from you breaking them (at best, there would be mitigating circumstances, but you have some punishment coming either way). You buying PLEXes from them could just as well result in your PLEXes being confiscated if you still have them, or get time removed from your subscription if you applied them, or even get your wallet into negative ISK if you sold them for ISK. Are we crystal clear ? EVE issues\|Mining revamp\|Build stuff\|Make ISK
Armoured C Gallente Federation of Freedom Fighters Aggression.	Posted - 2009.05.13 01:46:00 - [19] Originally by: Mr Reeth Send me your full name, address, SS number, mothers maiden name, all your credit card numbers and a picture of yourself naked and I'll let you know if it's safe. pic and details sent in mail XD if you buy eve in a box from my game store i will give you isk (GAME , parkgate rotherham)
Delphi Grendalus Caldari State War Academy	Posted - 2009.05.13 01:50:00 - [20] How is it selling if you are recieving a gift in return for a donation? Thats the way it was made out from what I've been told and seen on the forums. Thats like saying you are selling birthday presents cause last month your mother gave you $20 and this month you gave her a GTC. All I am saying is that all the word twisting is giving me a headache Tear-stained ISK is the best kind of ISK.
Armoured C Gallente Federation of Freedom Fighters Aggression.	Posted - 2009.05.13 01:57:00 - [21] just realised that it says plex not GTC so that means you buying ingame items for real money which is you know against the EULA if you buy eve in a box from my game store i will give you isk (GAME , parkgate rotherham)
Akita T Caldari Navy Volunteer Task Force	Posted - 2009.05.13 02:02:00 - [22] Originally by: Delphi Grendalus How is it selling if you are recieving a gift in return for a donation? You tell that to any revenue/fiscal service and see how fast you are going to start begging to be able to JUST pay some fines instead of going to jail. If the donation is mandatory in order to receive a gift, and you already know what the gift is, that's not a donation+gift combo, that's a bona fide SALE. If you donate the cash and receive some RANDOM gift or no gift at all, it's called a LOTTERY. If you DON'T donate anything but you still receive a gift, now, THAT is just ok. EVE issues\|Mining revamp\|Build stuff\|Make ISK
Armoured C Gallente Federation of Freedom Fighters Aggression.	Posted - 2009.05.13 02:03:00 - [23] Originally by: Akita T Originally by: Delphi Grendalus How is it selling if you are recieving a gift in return for a donation? You tell that to any revenue/fiscal service and see how fast you are going to start begging to be able to JUST pay some fines instead of going to jail. If the donation is mandatory in order to receive a gift, and you already know what the gift is, that's not a donation+gift combo, that's a bona fide SALE. If you donate the cash and receive some RANDOM gift or no gift at all, it's called a LOTTERY. If you DON'T donate anything but you still receive a gift, now, THAT is just ok. law school here we come ... been in trouble with the erm financial institutes of you fine country have we if you buy eve in a box from my game store i will give you isk (GAME , parkgate rotherham)
Akita T Caldari Navy Volunteer Task Force	Posted - 2009.05.13 02:08:00 - [24] "No, no, officer, you got it all wrong ! See, I met this guy at the bar, we liked eachother very much, he said he wanted to give me a nice present, then we were supposed to go to his place to have some sex. But all of a sudden, he said he doesn't think he can find what he wanted at this time of night, so he asked me if he could just give me the cash and I could go get the present myself tomorrow, since he will be out of town. So you see, it's not prostitution officer, it's just a gift !" Are you buying that ? I bet the cop doesn't. And me neither EVE issues\|Mining revamp\|Build stuff\|Make ISK
Armoured C Gallente Federation of Freedom Fighters Aggression.	Posted - 2009.05.13 02:10:00 - [25] Originally by: Akita T "No, no, officer, you got it all wrong ! See, I met this guy at the bar, we liked eachother very much, he said he wanted to give me a nice present, then we were supposed to go to his place to have some sex. But all of a sudden, he said he doesn't think he can find what he wanted at this time of night, so he asked me if he could just give me the cash and I could go get the present myself tomorrow, since he will be out of town. So you see, it's not prostitution officer, it's just a gift !" Are you buying that ? I bet the cop doesn't. And me neither what all she wanted was her present... nah im kidding with you :P she defiently nicked :P if you buy eve in a box from my game store i will give you isk (GAME , parkgate rotherham)
Leon Caedo	Posted - 2009.05.13 02:32:00 - [26] Originally by: Akita T "No, no, officer, you got it all wrong ! See, I met this guy at the bar, we liked eachother very much, he said he wanted to give me a nice present, then we were supposed to go to his place to have some sex. But all of a sudden, he said he doesn't think he can find what he wanted at this time of night, so he asked me if he could just give me the cash and I could go get the present myself tomorrow, since he will be out of town. So you see, it's not prostitution officer, it's just a gift !" Are you buying that ? I bet the cop doesn't. And me neither I think that's called marriage. 石の上にも三年。
Washell Olivaw	Posted - 2009.05.13 11:37:00 - [27] Originally by: Dire Radiant Ehhhh.... How does situation B work? When you buy a GTC with Isk the time gets applied to you account when you accept the deal. You cannot re-sell it. Buy on forum, offer more money to just just mail the code instead of using the secure system. The ISK seller runs some risks here, but he'll steal it back from someone else if he gets scammed. Originally by: Signature Everybody has a photographic memory, some people just don't have film.

CCP Fallout	Posted - 2009.05.13 21:03:00 - [28] PLEX are in-game items and as such you may not sell or purchase them for real money. GTCs, however, are available for real money purchases. I suggest you submit a petition with the URL of the Web site in question so that we may pod them :) Fallout Associate Community Manager CCP Hf, EVE Online Contact us

Spurty Caldari Ore Mongers BricK sQuAD.	Posted - 2009.05.13 21:20:00 - [29] Originally by: CCP Fallout I suggest you submit a petition with the URL of the Web site in question so that we may pod them :) Oh I do hope its a squishy sound when it happens! Originally by: Infinity Ziona Thus I AM BETTER THAN YOU.
Grishius Amarr Celestial Janissaries Curatores Veritatis Alliance	Posted - 2009.05.13 21:24:00 - [30] Edited by: Grishius on 13/05/2009 21:25:29 Originally by: CCP Fallout PLEX are in-game items and as such you may not sell or purchase them for real money. GTCs, however, are available for real money purchases. I suggest you submit a petition with the URL of the Web site in question so that we may pod them :) Another alliance gets rid of r64->$$$ backbone. Runing alliances is full time job, you know? Seriously start with isk->$$$ through secure gtc transactions first. If you don't know how it's done contact me. :)

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