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Jaabaa Prime
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Posted - 2004.09.05 01:27:00 -
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I just went through the CMS kill reports, and I am sadly disappointed to report that tacklers are not considered to be "Involved parties" in Concord's kill mails.
You can get wasted by Concord in empire for this act of aggression, but don't get a mention in a battleship kill because you had it scrambled and made sure it couldn't get away ?
CCP, what ever you're planning, please give credit where credit is due, the tacklers were very much involved in the kills, maybe more than some of the battleships.
No tackle = no kill.
Please add ALL types of aggression to the kill mail and make it clear who was involved, and I mean all of the "Involved parties".
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Involved parties:
Name: I was there Security Status: 1.3 Corporation: Who ever Ship Type: What ever Weapon Type: Faint Warp Prohibitor I
Get the idea ? -- Intergalactic Teeth Pullers "Only two things are infinite, the universe and human stupidity, and I'm not sure about the former." Albert Einstein |

Jaabaa Prime
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Posted - 2004.09.05 01:27:00 -
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I just went through the CMS kill reports, and I am sadly disappointed to report that tacklers are not considered to be "Involved parties" in Concord's kill mails.
You can get wasted by Concord in empire for this act of aggression, but don't get a mention in a battleship kill because you had it scrambled and made sure it couldn't get away ?
CCP, what ever you're planning, please give credit where credit is due, the tacklers were very much involved in the kills, maybe more than some of the battleships.
No tackle = no kill.
Please add ALL types of aggression to the kill mail and make it clear who was involved, and I mean all of the "Involved parties".
Quote:
Involved parties:
Name: I was there Security Status: 1.3 Corporation: Who ever Ship Type: What ever Weapon Type: Faint Warp Prohibitor I
Get the idea ? -- Intergalactic Teeth Pullers "Only two things are infinite, the universe and human stupidity, and I'm not sure about the former." Albert Einstein |

BobGhengisKhan
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Posted - 2004.09.05 01:32:00 -
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What does it matter, really. The guy still died and someone in your gang gets confirmation of it
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BobGhengisKhan
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Posted - 2004.09.05 01:32:00 -
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What does it matter, really. The guy still died and someone in your gang gets confirmation of it
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Jaabaa Prime
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Posted - 2004.09.05 01:40:00 -
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CMS Kill System is very detailed, that's why we noticed it.
Yes, we kill 4 BS in 5 Mins, but a few of the tacklers never got a mention.
Totally wrong regarding the "Involved parties", and that is just wrong. -- Intergalactic Teeth Pullers "Only two things are infinite, the universe and human stupidity, and I'm not sure about the former." Albert Einstein |

Jaabaa Prime
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Posted - 2004.09.05 01:40:00 -
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CMS Kill System is very detailed, that's why we noticed it.
Yes, we kill 4 BS in 5 Mins, but a few of the tacklers never got a mention.
Totally wrong regarding the "Involved parties", and that is just wrong. -- Intergalactic Teeth Pullers "Only two things are infinite, the universe and human stupidity, and I'm not sure about the former." Albert Einstein |

Tristan
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Posted - 2004.09.05 01:43:00 -
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i agree, the same for people who use EW - they dont get mentioned in kill mails. Seems odd to me, lets say you got killed and wanted to know who did it etc... you wont get a full report back.
please add it CCP!
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Tristan
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Posted - 2004.09.05 01:43:00 -
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i agree, the same for people who use EW - they dont get mentioned in kill mails. Seems odd to me, lets say you got killed and wanted to know who did it etc... you wont get a full report back.
please add it CCP!
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Pudface
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Posted - 2004.09.05 03:17:00 -
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Would also Like thise to be featured in kill mails as a frigate pilot I dont get that much credit in the kills i do take part in
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Pudface
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Posted - 2004.09.05 03:17:00 -
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Would also Like thise to be featured in kill mails as a frigate pilot I dont get that much credit in the kills i do take part in
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Aitrus
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Posted - 2004.09.05 04:11:00 -
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Easy fix would be to make any agressive action count as involved, not just damage dealing.
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Aitrus
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Posted - 2004.09.05 04:11:00 -
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Easy fix would be to make any agressive action count as involved, not just damage dealing.
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Traver Sina
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Posted - 2004.09.05 09:19:00 -
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Originally by: BobGhengisKhan What does it matter, really. The guy still died and someone in your gang gets confirmation of it
Since the advent of the Kill mails and the CA-CMS Killing has started to become much more of a Sport, and more than 'just' getting the kill mail counts.
Note to tacklers, fit at least one small gun to stake your claim 
Trav,
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Traver Sina
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Posted - 2004.09.05 09:19:00 -
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Originally by: BobGhengisKhan What does it matter, really. The guy still died and someone in your gang gets confirmation of it
Since the advent of the Kill mails and the CA-CMS Killing has started to become much more of a Sport, and more than 'just' getting the kill mail counts.
Note to tacklers, fit at least one small gun to stake your claim 
Trav,
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Tristan
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Posted - 2004.09.05 11:14:00 -
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No, fitting a small gun doesent always get you credit.
if you only do 5dmg or something before he dies you probably wont get on the kill mail, if theres 10 other guys doing 1000dmg + or something.
Also what about the EW guys?
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Tristan
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Posted - 2004.09.05 11:14:00 -
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No, fitting a small gun doesent always get you credit.
if you only do 5dmg or something before he dies you probably wont get on the kill mail, if theres 10 other guys doing 1000dmg + or something.
Also what about the EW guys?
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The Clash
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Posted - 2004.09.05 11:19:00 -
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Edited by: The Clash on 05/09/2004 11:21:33 well ,
as tackler you could fire a few missiles or shoot a few rounds on teh target and you get mentioned = prob solved 
but on other hand it would be nice i guess if they could implant that as well for teh EW/tackler guys
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The Clash
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Posted - 2004.09.05 11:19:00 -
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Edited by: The Clash on 05/09/2004 11:21:33 well ,
as tackler you could fire a few missiles or shoot a few rounds on teh target and you get mentioned = prob solved 
but on other hand it would be nice i guess if they could implant that as well for teh EW/tackler guys
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Mark A
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Posted - 2004.09.05 14:17:00 -
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Originally by: Tristan No, fitting a small gun doesent always get you credit.
if you only do 5dmg or something before he dies you probably wont get on the kill mail, if theres 10 other guys doing 1000dmg + or something.
Yes you will. Everyone who damages the target gets on the killmail (note I don't think it's enough to open fire and miss, although I haven't tested this).
I'd recommend missiles even if it's just a rocket launcher on a frig as they are guaranteed to do non-zero damage.
Quote: Also what about the EW guys?
Good point. Scorps doing jamming/damping also won't get on the killmail, and unlike tacklers will be too far out to hit with any type of weapon.
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Mark A
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Posted - 2004.09.05 14:17:00 -
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Originally by: Tristan No, fitting a small gun doesent always get you credit.
if you only do 5dmg or something before he dies you probably wont get on the kill mail, if theres 10 other guys doing 1000dmg + or something.
Yes you will. Everyone who damages the target gets on the killmail (note I don't think it's enough to open fire and miss, although I haven't tested this).
I'd recommend missiles even if it's just a rocket launcher on a frig as they are guaranteed to do non-zero damage.
Quote: Also what about the EW guys?
Good point. Scorps doing jamming/damping also won't get on the killmail, and unlike tacklers will be too far out to hit with any type of weapon.
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Walking Contradiction
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Posted - 2004.09.05 14:17:00 -
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He wants to up his killcount on the CA Kill list. It's the only reason he's asking.
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Walking Contradiction
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Posted - 2004.09.05 14:17:00 -
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He wants to up his killcount on the CA Kill list. It's the only reason he's asking.
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Tristan
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Posted - 2004.09.05 15:07:00 -
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Mark you dont, ive noticed it several times over the past few days when ive flown as a tackler or in a blackbird and ive hit the enemy target, but not done a lot of damage before hes been tore to pieces... and i havent got on the kill mail.
Hence, im leaving tackling and EW alone from now on.
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Tristan
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Posted - 2004.09.05 15:07:00 -
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Mark you dont, ive noticed it several times over the past few days when ive flown as a tackler or in a blackbird and ive hit the enemy target, but not done a lot of damage before hes been tore to pieces... and i havent got on the kill mail.
Hence, im leaving tackling and EW alone from now on.
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AvanCade
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Posted - 2004.09.05 16:41:00 -
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Originally by: Walking Contradiction He wants to up his killcount on the CA Kill list. It's the only reason he's asking.
Well, involved parties should name all INVOLVED parties. Tacklers and jammers are involved too, so i wonder why they arent included in the mail at the first place..
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AvanCade
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Posted - 2004.09.05 16:41:00 -
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Originally by: Walking Contradiction He wants to up his killcount on the CA Kill list. It's the only reason he's asking.
Well, involved parties should name all INVOLVED parties. Tacklers and jammers are involved too, so i wonder why they arent included in the mail at the first place..
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Tyrrax Thorrk
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Posted - 2004.09.05 16:50:00 -
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What annoys me is when sentries take part in my kills and I don't get a killmail because of it.. Mail should go to whoever did most dmg!
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Tyrrax Thorrk
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Posted - 2004.09.05 16:50:00 -
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What annoys me is when sentries take part in my kills and I don't get a killmail because of it.. Mail should go to whoever did most dmg!
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Orestes
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Posted - 2004.09.05 16:51:00 -
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Wouldn't CONCORD do the most damage, in the case of sentries?
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Orestes
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Posted - 2004.09.05 16:51:00 -
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Wouldn't CONCORD do the most damage, in the case of sentries?
Join the IC! |
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