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Bad Harlequin
Minmatar
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Posted - 2009.06.04 00:23:00 -
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Edited by: Bad Harlequin on 04/06/2009 00:23:40
Originally by: Yukinagoto
SOU DESU. そうです。
Not when i learned it 20 years ago, actually . Transliterations of the syllabary have changed. Nowadays, watashi no Nihongo wa totemo warui desu yo.
Seeing "atashi" repeatedly really confused me for a while.
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Eventy One
Magellan Exploration and Survey
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Posted - 2009.06.04 00:25:00 -
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Edited by: Eventy One on 04/06/2009 00:27:10 No one's shared with the OP how to pronounce "F.U."?
Its "Eff You".
(j/k)
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Jackson Brown
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Posted - 2009.06.04 00:31:00 -
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Originally by: Stormwind Bloodfeather Edited by: Stormwind Bloodfeather on 02/06/2009 03:21:55 Edited by: Stormwind Bloodfeather on 02/06/2009 03:15:55
Originally by: Edd Duck
Originally by: Malvaceae Veri Edited by: Malvaceae Veri on 13/05/2009 14:00:51
Originally by: Ralara Rhea - Rear
Oneiros - the closest I can type it as, is it sounds similar to "buena" but without the B.
Where did you get these from? Because they are, quite frankly, wrong. Unless we are talking about a pronunciation of "rear" like "rea".
Af for oneiros, IIRC greek had a hard S, so no idea where you got your "uena" from.
Hint: these names are supposed to be spoken in latin/greek.
And add this to the fact that english has by and large lost all its original (18th was the last time this was fix'd, I recall) laws of pronunciation, at least, de facto.
Think they came out of the dictionary which tells you the correct pronunciation of words. You should read it sometime. Unless you are American in which case your dictionary is full of the most awful errors in spelling and pronunciation. American dictionaries, dumbed down spelling for dummies.
British English dictionaries, full of 1/2 learned words learned by their 1/2 educated people that only 1/2 conquered a world because they were so sure of their superiority that they couldn't be 1/2 assed to learn how to pronounce anything correctly in the countries they were in. Thus leaving a bunch of 1/2 assed pronunciation failures in their language that they now assume is the only 'proper' way to pronounce anything.
~SB
edit: That is not a slam on the British peoples of today, tbh it's a slam on the ones that formed the short lived British Empire, subjugated and in effect enslaved many countries, and because they couldn't be assed to learn the words properly for things in those countries from the ones who lived there, bastardized the words to suit themselves and created a massive failure within both the American and the British dictionaries. For EITHER side of the pond to assume our way is the only 'proper' way is the utmost in arrogance.
USA USA USA!
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Marine HK4861
Caldari K.D. SCIENTIFIC INDUSTRIES
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Posted - 2009.06.04 00:52:00 -
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Originally by: Bad Harlequin Edited by: Bad Harlequin on 04/06/2009 00:23:40
Originally by: Yukinagoto
SOU DESU. そうです。
Not when i learned it 20 years ago, actually . Transliterations of the syllabary have changed. Nowadays, watashi no Nihongo wa totemo warui desu yo.
Seeing "atashi" repeatedly really confused me for a while.
I thought 'atashi' is an alternate version of 'watashi' used almost exclusively by women?
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Pusha Man
Minmatar Du'uma Fiisi Integrated Astrometrics
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Posted - 2009.06.04 03:07:00 -
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Originally by: Lazarann
Originally by: Ralara
Jaguar - jag you ah (not jag waar)
Both are correct. Linkage I've never heard anyone in the US pronounce it "jag yoo ah". Pretty sure that's a UK or Euro way.
This. And apply it to everything in the OP, not just the Jag.
Nobody cares about Euros or how they pronounce things; especially arrogant Brits whose English is even worse than the most uneducated American hood rat.
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Shinjin Malvek
Amarr Viziam
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Posted - 2009.06.04 03:14:00 -
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Edited by: Shinjin Malvek on 04/06/2009 03:15:47 Ok I didn't bother reading all 7 pages but the only two that bother me is Abaddon and Harbinger... I looked them up and even got an audible of how to say them and they were pronounced like I would say them.
For those that cant pronounce Amarr ship names... Ạbaḍdon Pronunciation: (u-bad'n), [key] no ON on the end just N
harbinger Definition har+bin+ger (hSr′bin jər) G at the end is spoken as a J.
In the U.S. any way :)
That is all thank you.
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Sirius Snape
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Posted - 2009.06.04 08:56:00 -
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Edited by: Sirius Snape on 04/06/2009 08:57:44 Jaguar - Jag
Harbinger - Harbs
Myrmidon - Donald
Abaddon - A-ba
Rokh - Rock
Bhaalgorn - Baalbag
Machariel - Macdaddy
Maelstrom - Stromboli
Archon - Akon (street, gansta, word)
Chimera - Kim
Nidhoggur - Hogger
Huginn - Kissin
Astarte - Ass starter
Sleipnir - Sleep here
Ashimmu - Shamu the Killer Whale
Cynabal - Cymbal
Gila - Gilet
Exequror - Exchecker
Scythe - Sith
Naglfar - Naggle
Kitsune - Kit-kat
Arazu - LA Zoo
Charon - Shazza
Fenrir - Fine rear
Succubus - F*ck you, bus!
Zealot - Sell out
Cerberus - Cerb [RUS]
Deimos - Demo's
Muninn - Ammuninition
Iteron - Sh*teron
Rhea - Little sexy bird
Oneiros - Canyonaro
Scimitar - Simon the skimming skimitard.
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Andre Marconius
Gallente DIE WITH HONOUR
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Posted - 2009.06.04 09:56:00 -
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Thought this was going to be about system names and gangs...
"Set destination to yva roooor" "You wot?" "Yva eroooor" "Eh?" "Sod it -> Yvaeroure" "Ohhh"
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Etheri Grim
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Posted - 2009.06.04 10:49:00 -
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Originally by: Destro Its not Brian - its Bri ON
He's a very naughty boy!
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Ratchman
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Posted - 2009.06.04 12:41:00 -
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Originally by: Farrellus Cameron I hate to break it to you, but the British Empire is dead. You don't get to tell the rest of the world how to talk anymore.
So you can go back to drinking yourselves into oblivion on that cold rock you call home, and enjoying the company of semi-attractive women with bad teeth.
We'll let you know if your country becomes relevant again.
Some good, old-fashioned racism here.
Could you let us know your country of residence, sir? It would allow us to make any number of racial slurs based on overwhelming generalisations and ignorant assumptions.
I'm assuming the poster is American, as it does seem to be the only place I can think of that thinks we all have horrendous teeth. If you are, I would also think twice about accusing us of Imperialism when your own has got an equally repellent history of exploiting other countries, and even their own countrymen.
You should know by now that the people are not the country. They just live there. Stereotypes exist because people lack the intellect to imagine that the whole of humanity is made up of individuals.
And if you're a troll, this is even worse. It means you take pride in your social ineptness.
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Chris Liath
Gallente Nex Exercitus Skunk-Works
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Posted - 2009.06.04 12:53:00 -
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Originally by: Ratchman
Originally by: Farrellus Cameron I hate to break it to you, but the British Empire is dead. You don't get to tell the rest of the world how to talk anymore.
So you can go back to drinking yourselves into oblivion on that cold rock you call home, and enjoying the company of semi-attractive women with bad teeth.
We'll let you know if your country becomes relevant again.
Some good, old-fashioned racism here.
Could you let us know your country of residence, sir? It would allow us to make any number of racial slurs based on overwhelming generalisations and ignorant assumptions.
I'm assuming the poster is American, as it does seem to be the only place I can think of that thinks we all have horrendous teeth. If you are, I would also think twice about accusing us of Imperialism when your own has got an equally repellent history of exploiting other countries, and even their own countrymen.
You should know by now that the people are not the country. They just live there. Stereotypes exist because people lack the intellect to imagine that the whole of humanity is made up of individuals.
And if you're a troll, this is even worse. It means you take pride in your social ineptness.
Pwnt.
"Oh dear," says God, "I hadn't thought of that," and promptly vanishes in a puff of logic. |
MightyRhinox
Minmatar Rhinox Heavy Industries
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Posted - 2009.06.04 13:01:00 -
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Originally by: Marine HK4861
Originally by: Bad Harlequin Edited by: Bad Harlequin on 04/06/2009 00:23:40
Originally by: Yukinagoto
SOU DESU. そうです。
Not when i learned it 20 years ago, actually . Transliterations of the syllabary have changed. Nowadays, watashi no Nihongo wa totemo warui desu yo.
Seeing "atashi" repeatedly really confused me for a while.
I thought 'atashi' is an alternate version of 'watashi' used almost exclusively by women?
Usually, but the rise of the soushokudanshi is making it more common for some guys. I think it's used more for guys in Fukuoka-ben as well (but I'm not sure)
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Mendolus
Aurelius Federation Apotheosis of Virtue
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Posted - 2009.06.04 15:42:00 -
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Originally by: 5pinDizzy Edited by: 5pinDizzy on 13/05/2009 14:30:53 Cerberus is just - "Sir-beh-russ" isn't it?
There were no soft C sounds in Greek and Latin, only hard "Kuh" sounds.
Celtic is "Keltic" in phonetics.
As for the OP... you have obviously never studied linguistics, nor any Romance languages for that matter, esp. Latin
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Seamus Drummer
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Posted - 2009.06.04 17:16:00 -
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Edited by: Seamus Drummer on 04/06/2009 17:18:50 Edited by: Seamus Drummer on 04/06/2009 17:17:29 Don't you feel a bit stupid to tell CCP (remember, they're from Iceland) or german speaking people how to pronounce germanic/norse names?
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Grann Thefauto
Internal Anarchy
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Posted - 2009.06.04 19:47:00 -
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Edited by: Grann Thefauto on 04/06/2009 19:47:58
Originally by: Aisley Tyrion How about the Minmatar fighter "einherji"? I have no trouble pronouncing it the way I'd do it in my native language (which is Finnish) but how should it be pronounced 'the English style'?
I had a discussion with a corp mate about this some time ago and figured the easiest way would be to drop -ji from the end and pronounce it as 'ein-her'.
I'd say Eyen(like "aye" or "eye" with an N)-her-jee in my General American English accent.
On on more serious note though, I have decided to start pronouncing kitsune: "kizzoon" as that appears to be the consensus. |
Ezekiel Sulastin
Gallente Shiva Morsus Mihi
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Posted - 2009.06.04 20:04:00 -
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Originally by: Grann Thefauto
On on more serious note though, I have decided to start pronouncing kitsune: "kizzoon" as that appears to be the consensus.
Kizzoon? I can see even Kit-soon as opposed to the proper pronunciation, but Ki*ZZ*oon?
If I heard that come over TS I'd primary whomever said it :p |
Karlemgne
Tides Of War
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Posted - 2009.06.05 02:46:00 -
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Originally by: Ralara The following is how you pronounce the ships' names in Eve. If you're doing it another way, you're doing it wrong.
Jaguar - jag you ah (not jag waar)
I agree with the purpose and scope of this thread; however, where exactly are you from? I have never, in all of my life heard Jaguar pronounced like you have it listed.
-Karlemgne
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Pulsarr1
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Posted - 2009.06.05 05:20:00 -
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To confuse matters even more. I hear Jaguar pronounced Jag-wire by Californian's all the time. I don't know where the I comes from.
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Awesome Possum
Insert Obscure Latin Name
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Posted - 2009.06.05 05:34:00 -
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Edited by: Awesome Possum on 05/06/2009 05:44:39 Abaddon - Abaddon is from the Hebrew word pronounced aw-bawd-don. It means destruction, or to perish. The Greek version of the Hebrew word is Apollyon.
edit: forgot to add
Gila - HEE-la
It's a lizard, slow, poisonous, and ugly as sin.
And it's pronounced with an H. |
Governor LePetomane
Rock Ridge Brokerage Solutions
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Posted - 2009.06.05 06:33:00 -
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Originally by: Karlemgne
Originally by: Ralara The following is how you pronounce the ships' names in Eve. If you're doing it another way, you're doing it wrong.
Jaguar - jag you ah (not jag waar)
I agree with the purpose and scope of this thread; however, where exactly are you from? I have never, in all of my life heard Jaguar pronounced like you have it listed.
-Karlemgne
Here's the breakdown on that:
People who actually live in the Jaguar's natural range or on the same continent (North and South America) speak one of three languages: English, Spanish or Portuguese. The word is spelled the same in all three languages and the last part of the word is pronounced "waar" in all three (JAG-waar, hag-WAAR, zhag-WAAR).
People who say "JAG-yew-uh" live thousands of miles and at least one ocean away from Jaguar habitat and will never see one in their native country unless it's on television or in a zoo.
Damned if they're not experts though.
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Awesome Possum
Insert Obscure Latin Name
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Posted - 2009.06.05 06:38:00 -
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Originally by: Ratchman Some good, old-fashioned racism here.
The british are not a race. The english, welsh, scottish, and irish are not races.
Therefore, there was no racism in that post.
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cyonida
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Posted - 2009.06.05 07:08:00 -
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Edited by: cyonida on 05/06/2009 07:09:46 I disagree with a lot of those.....here's my list
west coast US accent...
Jaguar - jag u ar (sometimes I do say jag waar, the ua makes a 'w' sound)
Harbinger - Har bin jur
Myrmidon - meer mi don
Abaddon - uh bah dun
Rokh - roke ( as in spoke)
Bhaalgorn - Bal gorn
Machariel - muh care ee el
Maelstrom - Male strom
Archon - Arch on
Chimera - Chai meer uh
Nidhoggur - Nid huh grrrr
Huginn - Hew gin (gin, not jin)
Astarte - uh star tay
Sleipnir - Slep ner
Ashimmu - uh shim eww
Cynabal - sin uh bull
Gila - Gee la ( soft G as in geek)
Exequror - ex ek ur or
Scythe sigh th
Naglfar - nah gul far
Kitsune - Kit soon eh
Arazu - Arra zoo
Charon - char on (char as in chocolate)
Fenrir - Fen rear
Succubus - suck you bus
Zealot - Zel uh t
Cerberus - sair brrr us
Deimos - dee mos (mos as in gross)
Muninn - Mew-nin (Mew as in Jew)
Iteron - It ur-on
Rhea - Ray uh
Oneiros - oh near os (os as in gross)
Scimitar - sim it ar
Edit:
Vagur - Var grr ( I fail to see how a "ur" can make an "or" sound)
Erebus - air uh bus |
Jin Nib
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Posted - 2009.06.05 07:47:00 -
[203]
Um, no, it's all pronounced like this:
Hadukan - Ha due ken
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Kyra Felann
Gallente Noctis Fleet Technologies
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Posted - 2009.06.05 08:27:00 -
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Originally by: Katherine Rowan I'm a snooty Brit who thinks my way is the only way. Blah blah blah.
Fixed.
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Balgus Dais
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Posted - 2009.06.05 10:08:00 -
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Edited by: Balgus Dais on 05/06/2009 10:10:27 Edited by: Balgus Dais on 05/06/2009 10:08:52 Hell yeah!
Jaguar - Jag-Wire
Harbinger - Har-Binger (Bringer without the R)
Myrmidon - Mer-Mi-Don (A Mermaid with a mid-sized mastodon)
Abaddon - Ab-Uh-Don
Rokh - Rock (And roll)
Bhaalgorn - Balg-Horn (As in Balcony with a G, Just like in my name, the H is imaginary)
Machariel - Muh-Care-Ee-Ull
Maelstrom - Male strum
Archon - Arr kon
Chimera - Kai-Mare-Uh (Kai is pronounced Eye with a K in front of it)
Nidhoggur - Nig-Hog-Er
Huginn - Hew gin (hard G. Hew as in Jew)
Astarte - Uh-Start
Sleipnir - Slyp-ner (Sly with a P at the end)
Ashimmu - Ash-I-Moo (The I makes the same sound as the I in Middle)
Cynabal - Sin-I-Bull (Like Cynical, only with a B)
Gila - Gill-Uh
Exequror - Execuroar (Executor, only the Tor is a roar.)
Scythe - Sigh-th (Who doesn't know how to pronounce this?)
Naglfar - Nag-Ul-Far (Ul as in Pull)
Kitsune - Kit-Soon
Arazu - Aura-Zoo
Charon - Char-On (Char as in Character)
Fenrir - Fen-Rear
Succubus - suck you bus <- lol, but yeah, that.
Zealot - Zee-Loy
Cerberus - Sir-Ber-Us
Deimos - Daymos (Most without the T)
Muninn - Mew-nin
Iteron - It-er-on
Rhea - Re-uh
Oneiros - O-Knee-Rose (Rose like Roast without the T)
Scimitar - I'm a Skimitard.
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Ratchman
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Posted - 2009.06.05 10:39:00 -
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Originally by: Awesome Possum
Originally by: Ratchman Some good, old-fashioned racism here.
The british are not a race. The english, welsh, scottish, and irish are not races.
Therefore, there was no racism in that post.
Splitting hairs, aren't we?
Racism is only really used because nationalism means something else entirely.
Guess the only way for you to find out is to spout hatred about a specific country in your place of work and see what they fire you for.
In all seriousness, does anyone actually know what the term is for being bigoted against people from a certain country is? |
Jin Nib
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Posted - 2009.06.05 10:48:00 -
[207]
Originally by: Ratchman
Originally by: Awesome Possum
Originally by: Ratchman Some good, old-fashioned racism here.
The british are not a race. The english, welsh, scottish, and irish are not races.
Therefore, there was no racism in that post.
Splitting hairs, aren't we?
Racism is only really used because nationalism means something else entirely.
Guess the only way for you to find out is to spout hatred about a specific country in your place of work and see what they fire you for.
In all seriousness, does anyone actually know what the term is for being bigoted against people from a certain country is?
You can use many, I'm partial to a few good ones, unfortunately none are suitable for polite conversation.
(Eww, I just did a searh for it, man people whine alot about other people not likeing them. Get over it. Also I couldn't find it.) |
Typhado3
Minmatar Ashen Lion Mining and Production Consortium Aeternus.
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Posted - 2009.06.05 14:49:00 -
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..... someone who doesn't understand that there is more than 1 way to pronounce a word.... so much for eve players being smarter. |
Adjasarcanter
Amarr Ministry of War
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Posted - 2009.06.05 16:18:00 -
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Edited by: Adjasarcanter on 05/06/2009 16:22:35 Edited by: Adjasarcanter on 05/06/2009 16:19:51 Edited by: Adjasarcanter on 05/06/2009 16:19:15 All words should be spoken using the pronunciation of the language that the word originates from. I don't care if you're English, American or whatever, if you're pronouncing a German word, you should use their pronunciation. If everyone did this, there would be no cross-language issues with understanding.
As for changing language over time based on commonalities of speech between people (who usually have regional dialects that prevent them pronouncing their own language properly anyway), don't make me laugh. This is how horrific mispellings and grammar get into the dictionary and end up bastardising the language. This isn't the evolution of language, it's the de-evolution and corruption of it. The English language is a fantastically flexible means of communication and, regardless of any Anglo-American rivalry, Queen's English is the basis for the American language. It's exactly these kinds of changes creeping in over the last few centuries (and the assimilation and mis-pronunciation of words from other languages) that have caused the differences between the two.
Edits for spelling. |
Jin Nib
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Posted - 2009.06.05 16:31:00 -
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Originally by: Adjasarcanter Edited by: Adjasarcanter on 05/06/2009 16:22:35 Edited by: Adjasarcanter on 05/06/2009 16:19:51 Edited by: Adjasarcanter on 05/06/2009 16:19:15 All words should be spoken using the pronunciation of the language that the word originates from. I don't care if you're English, American or whatever, if you're pronouncing a German word, you should use their pronunciation. If everyone did this, there would be no cross-language issues with understanding.
As for changing language over time based on commonalities of speech between people (who usually have regional dialects that prevent them pronouncing their own language properly anyway), don't make me laugh. This is how horrific mispellings and grammar get into the dictionary and end up bastardising the language. This isn't the evolution of language, it's the de-evolution and corruption of it. The English language is a fantastically flexible means of communication and, regardless of any Anglo-American rivalry, Queen's English is the basis for the American language. It's exactly these kinds of changes creeping in over the last few centuries (and the assimilation and mis-pronunciation of words from other languages) that have caused the differences between the two.
Edits for spelling.
^This.
Is total nonsense. |
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