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jarporte
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Posted - 2009.05.13 22:45:00 -
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ok so there are towers all over the place in WH space. they are powered off due to someone just leaving them and they run out of fuel.
sooooo why can't you go up to one and fill it up and use it? there is no sov. in WH and there are no cops to say you stole it. and from setting up my own tower i know there is nothing that requires a password or other forms of ID.
so i think CCP should allow towers in WH with no fuel left be up for free game. we could clean up WH space so the sleepers wont be so made at us for being bad campers in there space .
sooooo when will this happen?
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Mealtrom
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Posted - 2009.05.13 22:46:00 -
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Edited by: Mealtrom on 13/05/2009 22:48:23
 Originally by: jarporte
ok so there are towers all over the place in WH space. they are powered off due to someone just leaving them and they run out of fuel.
Because it would be a terrible game mechanic?
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jarporte
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Posted - 2009.05.13 22:50:00 -
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why would it be terrible. there is NO law in WH space so why should the tower be protected from someone just taking it.
please explain why that would be so bad
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lo breeze
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Posted - 2009.05.13 23:15:00 -
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Can't you un-anchor then re-anchor? I've never personally dealt with someone else's offline POS so I can't say for sure.
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Asarah
Celestial Flux Inc
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Posted - 2009.05.14 02:43:00 -
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Edited by: Asarah on 14/05/2009 02:43:49
The only way to unanchor someone elses POS, offline or not, is with very large guns.
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why would it be terrible. there is NO law in WH space so why should the tower be protected from someone just taking
Because the first time you go on vacation and let your fuel lapse for a day and you came back to someone else in your house, you'll know why they don't let you take them.
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Baka Lakadaka
Gallente
Agony Unleashed
Agony Empire
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Posted - 2009.05.14 03:25:00 -
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When you anchor something in space it has some protection from being stolen. Be it a can or a POS. Otherwise why would we bother with anchoring at all.
In the case of a POS, the tower controls everything. CCP have already allowed us to steal POS modules, but you have to do some work to do it. You need to kill the tower and the modules become unanchorable. i.e. you can, right now, kill the tower, then unanchor and make off with the modules.
This, IMO, is balanced. You can't just waltz in and steal stuff, but if you're prepared to do a little work, then there's a nice reward. It also provides an ISK sink, where some ISK flows out of the player base and back into CCP, because you need to go buy a tower if you want to take over the moon.
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Letrange
Minmatar
Chaosstorm Corporation
Apoapsis Multiversal Consortium
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Posted - 2009.05.14 17:56:00 -
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just get enough battleships together and go at it. Once the tower is down you can un-anchor and scoop all the off-lined modules. AMC has done an opposed tower assault so a non-opposed tower should present little problem except time (no POS gunners to deal with, no need to kill the existing guns first etc...)
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jarporte
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Posted - 2009.05.14 18:07:00 -
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i guess i was not clear. I don't want to kill someones POS or steal the modules or anything like that.
what i want to do is clean up the space junk. if someone puts up a tower in WH, i am only talking about WH not empire not 0.0. and leaves the tower for what ever reason with no fuel. why should i not be able to take the tower. the fact is there is very little chance that any one corp will end up back in the same WH so they will NOT use the same tower that they left behind.
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Gavin DeVries
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Posted - 2009.05.14 18:48:00 -
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Because I suspect they are unable or unwilling to program an exception that makes the mechanics of towers different in W-space than they are in normal space. Right now the rules are: if you blow up the tower, you can take all the surrounding modules, and anchor your own tower in its place. There are plenty of offline towers in Empire space too, left behind by players who've quit the game or corporations that folded without someone removing the tower. In Empire, if it's owned by a corporation marked "Closed" I believe you can petition and GMs will remove it, but otherwise you have to blow it up if you want the spot.
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Poena Loveless
Minmatar
Dawn of a new Empire
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Posted - 2009.05.14 19:52:00 -
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2 words: Pulse Harbinger
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Wardo21
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Posted - 2009.05.14 20:31:00 -
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Out of curiosity, has the WH systems you've been visiting been spammed with towers or something? I have seen only one or two towers in any of the handful of WH systems I've visited.
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Dsan
Smegnet Incorporated
Paxton Federation
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Posted - 2009.05.14 20:37:00 -
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I think this is a great Idea. Wormhole space is law less, and even beyond sov.
so if the shields are down and fuels are out. you should be able to just fly up to it and claim it. maybe hack it or something. but seriously. it's peoples own fault if thay can't keep a tower online, it should be one of the riks with setting up a tower in WH space...
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Asarah
Celestial Flux Inc
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Posted - 2009.05.14 20:50:00 -
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Out of curiosity, has the WH systems you've been visiting been spammed with towers or something? I have seen only one or two towers in any of the handful of WH systems I've visited.
I'm currently living in W-Space full time and out of the 22 WH systems I've visted I've seen 6 towers, so it doesn't appear to be that big of a deal. The higher the class of W-Space it seems the more likely it is to have residents. I haven't seen a single offline tower.
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Cygwin Gaad
Caldari
The Element Syndicate
Black Mesa Project
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Posted - 2009.05.14 22:39:00 -
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IIRC there is an ongoing thread about hacking towers in the ideas and suggestions forum. the current suggestion that CCP is interested in is Hacking and Faction encryption mechanisms will be used to hack a tower which will take possibly a few days, the tower will eve mail its owner that it is under attack.
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