EVE Search - Seeking opinion on slightly weird Legion fit

All Channels

Ships and Modules

Seeking opinion on slightly weird Legion fit

» Click here to find additional results for this topic using Google

Monitor this thread via RSS [?]

Pages: [1] :: one page
Author	Thread Statistics \| Show CCP posts - 0 post(s)
Istvaan Shogaatsu Caldari Guiding Hand Social Club	Posted - 2009.05.15 02:16:00 - [1] Edited by: Istvaan Shogaatsu on 15/05/2009 02:23:33 I've been screwing around with my Legions (yes, plural, I'm rich) and I came up with a bit of a moonbat setup - chiefly designed to squeeze the most possible DPS out of a reasonably well-tanked ship. Tell me if this is retarded - most of my talent lies in stealing things, not so much PVPing, so I'm not sure. Also, I've been on break and just started PVPing again, so I'm probably totally rusty. HIGH: 6x HPL II, 1x HAM Launcher II MID: Corelum A-Type 10MN AB, True Sansha ruptor, Medium Electrochem Cap Booster I LOW: 2x Corpum A-Type Medium Repairer, Corpum A-Type EANM, DCU II, 2x True Sansha Heat Sink SUBS: Nanobot Injector, Emergent Locus Analyzer, Power Core Multiplier, Fuel Catalyst, Liquid Crystal Magnifiers RIGS: Nanobot Accelerator II, Nanobot Accelerator I, Auxilliary Nano Pump II It repairs 1684 armor every 6.12 sec, and puts out around 680 DPS (before overheat.) I lose the cool bonuses of the Dissolution Sequencer/Tactical Targeting Network, but I gain a heavy assault launcher on top of my six HPLs by using the scanprobe subsystem just to give me the extra highslot, giving me a bit of certain damage against small targets. I have the reppers spread out to maximize the benefit of overheating, and I have the guns split into a 3/3 slot group, divided by the launcher which I hope will serve as a bit of a heat sink for further overheating goodness. Is the extra DPS worth using an electronics subsystem with no combat bonuses? edit: 780ish DPS overheated, 1830 armor / 5.3 sec overheated. 37.750 EHP.
Eva Simonson	Posted - 2009.05.15 02:17:00 - [2] I either fully agree or demand this change/whatever be implemented immediately.
MicroWarpdrive II Disorder. Shock Alliance	Posted - 2009.05.15 02:24:00 - [3] get a tengu, i can offer you one for a low low price of 2b with all subsystems and a full fit and rigs. this message brought to you by a generous donation from WO2 Tiger.
Istvaan Shogaatsu Caldari Guiding Hand Social Club	Posted - 2009.05.15 02:24:00 - [4] Nah, I don't like Caldari ships that much. I prefer being a race traitor. Though, grats on the haul ;p
Luigi Thirty Caldari The Minmatarded	Posted - 2009.05.15 02:34:00 - [5] Incredibly. ---- DOMINIX IS ~~INVINCIBLE~~BLUE:((((
Davinel Lulinvega	Posted - 2009.05.15 03:44:00 - [6] 40 dps doesn't seem worth it. Also you'll probably get better results with 2 aux nanos and 1 accelerator.
Anubis Xian Reavers	Posted - 2009.05.15 04:07:00 - [7] Well, considering who you are, I came up with a special fit: [Legion, Istvaan's Armored Limousine] Damage Control II Corelum A-Type Energized Adaptive Nano Membrane Corelum A-Type Energized Adaptive Nano Membrane Corelum A-Type Energized Adaptive Nano Membrane 1600mm Reinforced Rolled Tungsten Plates I 1600mm Reinforced Rolled Tungsten Plates I Gistum A-Type 10MN Afterburner Domination Stasis Webifier Republic Fleet Warp Disruptor ECCM - Radar II Focused Medium Pulse Laser II, Amarr Navy Multifrequency M Focused Medium Pulse Laser II, Amarr Navy Multifrequency M Focused Medium Pulse Laser II, Amarr Navy Multifrequency M Focused Medium Pulse Laser II, Amarr Navy Multifrequency M Focused Medium Pulse Laser II, Amarr Navy Multifrequency M Focused Medium Pulse Laser II, Amarr Navy Multifrequency M Trimark Armor Pump II Trimark Armor Pump II Trimark Armor Pump II Legion Offensive - Liquid Crystal Magnifiers Legion Propulsion - Fuel Catalyst Legion Engineering - Power Core Multiplier Legion Electronics - Dissolution Sequencer Legion Defensive - Augmented Plating What do you think? It can chain tank 6 Doomsdays and the entire Caldari Milita. Be sure to have a support force with you tho. Originally by: CCP Oveur The client handles no logic, it is simply a dumb terminal.
Telinturco	Posted - 2009.05.15 04:14:00 - [8] Istvaan, you have inspired me. Excuse me while I almost exactly copy your setup.
Mazare Mircea Gallente	Posted - 2009.05.15 04:36:00 - [9] Originally by: Istvaan Shogaatsu Edited by: Istvaan Shogaatsu on 15/05/2009 02:35:18 I've been screwing around with my Legions (yes, plural, I'm rich) and I came up with a bit of a moonbat setup - chiefly designed to squeeze the most possible DPS out of a reasonably well-tanked ship. Tell me if this is retarded - most of my talent lies in stealing things, not so much PVPing, so I'm not sure. Also, I've been on break and just started PVPing again, so I'm probably totally rusty. HIGH: 6x HPL II, 1x HAM Launcher II MID: Corelum A-Type 10MN AB, True Sansha ruptor, Medium Electrochem Cap Booster I LOW: 2x Corpum A-Type Medium Repairer, Corpum A-Type EANM, DCU II, 2x True Sansha Heat Sink SUBS: Nanobot Injector, Emergent Locus Analyzer, Power Core Multiplier, Fuel Catalyst, Liquid Crystal Magnifiers RIGS: Nanobot Accelerator II, Nanobot Accelerator I, Auxilliary Nano Pump II It repairs 1684 armor every 6.12 sec, and puts out around 680 DPS (before overheat.) I lose the cool bonuses of the Dissolution Sequencer/Tactical Targeting Network, but I gain a heavy assault launcher on top of my six HPLs by using the scanprobe subsystem just to give me the extra highslot, giving me a bit of certain damage against small targets. I have the reppers spread out to maximize the benefit of overheating, and I have the guns split into a 3/3 slot group, divided by the launcher which I hope will serve as a bit of a heat sink for further overheating goodness. Is the extra DPS worth using an electronics subsystem with no combat bonuses? edit: 780ish DPS overheated, 1830 armor / 5.3 sec overheated. 37,750 EHP. Looks like a Legion fit active-abso like. :) ----- Do androids dream of electric sheep ?
Istvaan Shogaatsu Caldari Guiding Hand Social Club	Posted - 2009.05.15 05:00:00 - [10] Yeah, that's actually very similar to my current Abso active setup. That's the stupid thing. If I fit an Absolution with roughly the same modules I put on my Legion (swap AB for MWD, add extra TS heatsink) I get a ship that's not only faster than the Legion, but it also deals WAY more DPS, and tanks just about as well. I think the devs might have made design mistakes with this t3 ship. Many other t1/t2 ships previously available, simply out-class it.
burek Mercenary Forces	Posted - 2009.05.15 05:13:00 - [11] I looked at a similar fit on my legion and thought, meh, just fly an absolution. To me Legion seems to be at its best with heavy tank, drones, some neuts + some turrets. It would actually kill the absolution mentioned above, quiet easily.
Diomidis Amarr Mythos Corp RAZOR Alliance	Posted - 2009.05.15 08:21:00 - [12] Originally by: Istvaan Shogaatsu I think the devs might have made design mistakes with this t3 ship. Many other t1/t2 ships previously available, simply out-class it. Ehm, AFAIK T3 shouldn't straightforwardly out-class previous / cheaper ships, especially if those are NOT CRUISERS! T3 gives you room to play/fool around, building around ewar / speed / tank / gank at the same time. If you choose to spec in just 2/4 options, u can do it more efficiently with T2 hulls for slight (if any) loss in real performance Join the Biggest Greek Corp! www.Mythos-eve.com - Join Mythos Channel in game!
Zaerlorth Maelkor The Maverick Navy Atlas Alliance	Posted - 2009.05.15 11:23:00 - [13] Originally by: Istvaan Shogaatsu Yeah, that's actually very similar to my current Abso active setup. That's the stupid thing. If I fit an Absolution with roughly the same modules I put on my Legion (swap AB for MWD, add extra TS heatsink) I get a ship that's not only faster than the Legion, but it also deals WAY more DPS, and tanks just about as well. I think the devs might have made design mistakes with this t3 ship. Many other t1/t2 ships previously available, simply out-class it. Hint. Absolution is a battlecruiser class ship. ================================================== I should really get a sig.
Istvaan Shogaatsu Caldari Guiding Hand Social Club	Posted - 2009.05.15 12:04:00 - [14] Originally by: Diomidis Originally by: Istvaan Shogaatsu I think the devs might have made design mistakes with this t3 ship. Many other t1/t2 ships previously available, simply out-class it. Ehm, AFAIK T3 shouldn't straightforwardly out-class previous / cheaper ships, especially if those are NOT CRUISERS! T3 gives you room to play/fool around, building around ewar / speed / tank / gank at the same time. If you choose to spec in just 2/4 options, u can do it more efficiently with T2 hulls for slight (if any) loss in real performance Yeah, you're probably right. I'm just miffed that I couldn't build a super-Zealot to my satisfaction ;p
Istvaan Shogaatsu Caldari Guiding Hand Social Club	Posted - 2009.05.15 22:59:00 - [15] Originally by: Anubis Xian Well, considering who you are, I came up with a special fit: [Legion, Istvaan's Armored Limousine] Damage Control II Corelum A-Type Energized Adaptive Nano Membrane Corelum A-Type Energized Adaptive Nano Membrane Corelum A-Type Energized Adaptive Nano Membrane 1600mm Reinforced Rolled Tungsten Plates I 1600mm Reinforced Rolled Tungsten Plates I Gistum A-Type 10MN Afterburner Domination Stasis Webifier Republic Fleet Warp Disruptor ECCM - Radar II Focused Medium Pulse Laser II, Amarr Navy Multifrequency M Focused Medium Pulse Laser II, Amarr Navy Multifrequency M Focused Medium Pulse Laser II, Amarr Navy Multifrequency M Focused Medium Pulse Laser II, Amarr Navy Multifrequency M Focused Medium Pulse Laser II, Amarr Navy Multifrequency M Focused Medium Pulse Laser II, Amarr Navy Multifrequency M Trimark Armor Pump II Trimark Armor Pump II Trimark Armor Pump II Legion Offensive - Liquid Crystal Magnifiers Legion Propulsion - Fuel Catalyst Legion Engineering - Power Core Multiplier Legion Electronics - Dissolution Sequencer Legion Defensive - Augmented Plating What do you think? It can chain tank 6 Doomsdays and the entire Caldari Milita. Be sure to have a support force with you tho. Mmm, I dislike resorting to FMPL IIs, and I don't get doomsdayed that often. Rather prefer to take advantage of the active tank bonuses. Also, I only have the one complex EANM, and don't really wanna buy two more for a ship that will probably be dead in the next week or so :p
abrasive soap Balls Deep Inc.	Posted - 2009.05.15 23:20:00 - [16] Originally by: Istvaan Shogaatsu Originally by: Diomidis Originally by: Istvaan Shogaatsu I think the devs might have made design mistakes with this t3 ship. Many other t1/t2 ships previously available, simply out-class it. Ehm, AFAIK T3 shouldn't straightforwardly out-class previous / cheaper ships, especially if those are NOT CRUISERS! T3 gives you room to play/fool around, building around ewar / speed / tank / gank at the same time. If you choose to spec in just 2/4 options, u can do it more efficiently with T2 hulls for slight (if any) loss in real performance Yeah, you're probably right. I'm just miffed that I couldn't build a super-Zealot to my satisfaction ;p t3 outclasses a lot of tech 2 ships its just the legion is probably the worst of tech 3 the command ship sub system hasn't been spoken about very much but 5% is ridiculous considering you can use command processors and get as many links as the tech 2 command ships, if not more, with a stronger bonus.
Escobar Noreaga Amarr F.R.E.E. Explorer Wildly Inappropriate.	Posted - 2009.05.15 23:45:00 - [17] Edited by: Escobar Noreaga on 15/05/2009 23:46:15 legions outclass everything just from sheer awesomeness. blinded by awesome ________
abrasive soap Balls Deep Inc.	Posted - 2009.05.15 23:51:00 - [18] Originally by: Escobar Noreaga Edited by: Escobar Noreaga on 15/05/2009 23:46:15 legions outclass everything just from sheer awesomeness. blinded by awesome i see curses' character in the chat box
Escobar Noreaga Amarr F.R.E.E. Explorer Wildly Inappropriate.	Posted - 2009.05.15 23:54:00 - [19] indeed you do. ________
Anubis Xian Reavers	Posted - 2009.05.16 00:31:00 - [20] Originally by: Istvaan Shogaatsu Mmm, I dislike resorting to FMPL IIs, and I don't get doomsdayed that often. Rather prefer to take advantage of the active tank bonuses. Also, I only have the one complex EANM, and don't really wanna buy two more for a ship that will probably be dead in the next week or so :p Pssh, welterweight. In all honesty, I think the Loki is superior in every important way to the Legion. Originally by: CCP Oveur The client handles no logic, it is simply a dumb terminal.
Shadow Devourer	Posted - 2009.05.16 00:36:00 - [21] The little bit of extra damage off the unbonused launcher could be a tracking disruptor instead and massively reduce incoming dps in 1v1. Plus the scanning subsystem has one ugly head.
Sidus Isaacs Gallente	Posted - 2009.05.16 00:42:00 - [22] Well, without a MWD I think this ship will die all too soon to competent PvPers as you simply got no way to keep up with them. And your Lack of MWD means they get out easier as well. Granted, you can tank well, and got decent dps so you might scare foo a lot of the solo guys, but if a HAC gang comes along you are dead. I am however not rich, and the Legion is still only on the design board in my EFT, so I have not tested it outside Sisi. But I am closer to the Tengu then the Legion currently. And I for one love Caldari awsomness. :) -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- http://desusig.crumplecorn.com/sigs.html
Kendon Riddick	Posted - 2009.05.16 00:47:00 - [23] Originally by: Sidus Isaacs Well, without a MWD I think this ship will die all too soon to competent PvPers. . . i'll stop you there, competent pvpers would have a warp scrambler in the gang
Merin Ryskin Peregrine Industries	Posted - 2009.05.16 00:49:00 - [24] Two comments: 1) You need a MWD. With only an AB, you're just too slow, and you're going to get run down and ganked by heavier ships. Maximize your speed advantage with the 25% speed bonus subsystem, a MWD, and a HG snake set. 2) The single HAM launcher isn't going to be doing very much dps. You're much better off fitting the neut subsystem and a neut in the 7th high, or one of the 4-mid subsystems to add a tracking disruptor. -----------
Sidus Isaacs Gallente	Posted - 2009.05.16 01:06:00 - [25] Edited by: Sidus Isaacs on 16/05/2009 01:06:50 Originally by: Kendon Rid** Originally by:** Sidus Isaacs Well, without a MWD I think this ship will die all too soon to competent PvPers. . . i'll stop you there, competent pvpers would have a warp scrambler in the gang And how do you intend to use thoose Scrams? AB over to me? :) No, MWD is needed. More so if you are solo. I not you loos the ability to dictate the fight, and you die. And of course a Gang is going to have a Scram with them. If its new to you that a gang will win over solo guys, well I don't know what to say. But to avoid this you certanly do not rely on ABs, thats for sure. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- http://desusig.crumplecorn.com/sigs.html
Muad' Dib Gallente Beyond Divinity Inc	Posted - 2009.05.16 01:41:00 - [26] Originally by: Escobar Noreaga Edited by: Escobar Noreaga on 15/05/2009 23:46:15 legions outclass everything just from sheer awesomeness. blinded by awesome So awesome that you must make sure to steer cleer of anything that can fit neuts ... not to mention that most of the times you have little cargo space for charges that your better off with ANP's instead of Nanobots for it. --- I smack just for myself. * Your signature file is to large. Please note: we do not allow signature files larger than 24000 bytes - Fallout
abrasive soap Balls Deep Inc.	Posted - 2009.05.16 02:10:00 - [27] Originally by: Kendon Rid** Originally by:** Sidus Isaacs Well, without a MWD I think this ship will die all too soon to competent PvPers. . . i'll stop you there, competent pvpers would have a warp scrambler in the gang That's why you stay out of range with the mwd.

Pages: [1] :: one page
First page \| Previous page \| Next page \| Last page

COPYRIGHT NOTICE
EVE Online, the EVE logo, EVE and all associated logos and designs are the intellectual property of CCP hf. All artwork, screenshots, characters, vehicles, storylines, world facts or other recognizable features of the intellectual property relating to these trademarks are likewise the intellectual property of CCP hf. EVE Online and the EVE logo are the registered trademarks of CCP hf. All rights are reserved worldwide. All other trademarks are the property of their respective owners. CCP hf. has granted permission to EVE-Search.com to use EVE Online and all associated logos and designs for promotional and information purposes on its website but does not endorse, and is not in any way affiliated with, EVE-Search.com. CCP is in no way responsible for the content on or functioning of this website, nor can it be liable for any damage arising from the use of this website.