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Garibaldi Sinatra
Hedion University Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2012.05.10 12:32:00 -
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No!
Besides the USD is far to unstable; and that country doesnt even have a AAA credit rating.
Conquering Eve Online One Pint at a time.-á(Excuse my bad spelling and or grammar ive never really valued such things especially when everyone knows what im saying regardless) |
Rockius
Templar Corps
28
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Posted - 2012.05.10 12:36:00 -
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Garibaldi Sinatra wrote:No!
Besides the USD is far to unstable; and that country doesnt even have a AAA credit rating.
That is why CCP would use a 3rd party like pay pal that can convert the virtual currency to whatever type of currency you want to redeem. |
Jerick Ludhowe
Wraiths of Abaddon
70
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Posted - 2012.05.10 14:11:00 -
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LuminousAxle wrote:If CCP supported RMT ,
then this post would not exist as eve would be dead.
ccp does support rmt, just only their own rmt. Player run rmt is bad for their business as the dollar value per isk is far less than the isk you get from buying a plex.
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Rockius
Templar Corps
28
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Posted - 2012.05.10 14:14:00 -
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Jerick Ludhowe wrote:LuminousAxle wrote:If CCP supported RMT ,
then this post would not exist as eve would be dead. ccp does support rmt, just only their own rmt. Player run rmt is bad for their business as the dollar value per isk is far less than the isk you get from buying a plex.
That is why if ccp replaced Plex with Aur and gave you the option of buying items, paying for accounts, and redeeming for cash with AUR it could work. |
Morganta
Peripheral Madness The Midget Mafia
1096
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Posted - 2012.05.10 14:16:00 -
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CCP already has a RMT house
you give CCP or their affiliates cash and they give you GTC GTC can be converted into PLEX, plex can then be sold for market value and the seller gets ISK in return
this program is open to all players
why put it in the hands of players so they can undercut everyone else and tank the GTC market because they bot 24/7 and have no concept of the value of isk?
really a stupid and utterly redundant idea The American public's reaction to the change was poor and the new cola was a major marketing failure. The subsequent reintroduction of Coke's original formula, re-branded as "Coca-Cola Classic", resulted in a significant gain in sales, leading to speculation that the introduction of the New Coke formula was just a marketing ploy |
Rockius
Templar Corps
28
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Posted - 2012.05.10 14:25:00 -
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Morganta wrote:CCP already has a RMT house
you give CCP or their affiliates cash and they give you GTC GTC can be converted into PLEX, plex can then be sold for market value and the seller gets ISK in return
this program is open to all players
why put it in the hands of players so they can undercut everyone else and tank the GTC market because they bot 24/7 and have no concept of the value of isk?
really a stupid and utterly redundant idea
A simple fix would be to limit the amount redeemable per paypal account 100$ a month sounds fair. |
Jerick Ludhowe
Wraiths of Abaddon
70
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Posted - 2012.05.10 14:36:00 -
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Rockius wrote:Jerick Ludhowe wrote:LuminousAxle wrote:If CCP supported RMT ,
then this post would not exist as eve would be dead. ccp does support rmt, just only their own rmt. Player run rmt is bad for their business as the dollar value per isk is far less than the isk you get from buying a plex. That is why if ccp replaced Plex with Aur and gave you the option of buying items, paying for accounts, and redeeming for cash with AUR it could work.
pay to win =/= sandbox.
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Rockius
Templar Corps
28
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Posted - 2012.05.10 14:40:00 -
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Jerick Ludhowe wrote:Rockius wrote:Jerick Ludhowe wrote:LuminousAxle wrote:If CCP supported RMT ,
then this post would not exist as eve would be dead. ccp does support rmt, just only their own rmt. Player run rmt is bad for their business as the dollar value per isk is far less than the isk you get from buying a plex. That is why if ccp replaced Plex with Aur and gave you the option of buying items, paying for accounts, and redeeming for cash with AUR it could work. pay to win =/= sandbox.
Indeed your current choices to make money in eve are these.
1 play the game and grind the isk through eves many careers.
2 buy and sell plex and take the fast track then play the game the way you want. |
Soulpirate
Bedrock Industrial
137
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Posted - 2012.05.10 15:27:00 -
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They should remove PLEX and just stick with AUR.
GTC gets converted to Aurum, that Aurum then can be used to purchase anything you want at the NeX including game time blocks of various sizes. 1 week, 1 month, 3 months, etc etc.
Allow players to make Aurum tokens with any excess they have so they can trade it on the market as they already do.
Aurum tokens are the new PLEX. |
Lara Dantreb
New Horizons
5
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Posted - 2012.05.10 15:30:00 -
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Crosi Wesdo wrote:If ccp had an RMT operation it would work something like this.
1. Buy plex from market. 2. Convert plex into nvidia graphics card. 3. Sell graphics card on ebay.
I totally agree with this idea, lets do it! ----á-á Buying T2 ship bpos since 2005-á --- --- -á-á-á-á-á-á WTB Occator Bpo, 110+ Bil-á-á-á-á-á --- |
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Rockius
Templar Corps
28
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Posted - 2012.05.10 15:33:00 -
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Soulpirate wrote:They should remove PLEX and just stick with AUR.
GTC gets converted to Aurum, that Aurum then can be used to purchase anything you want at the NeX including game time blocks of various sizes. 1 week, 1 month, 3 months, etc etc.
Allow players to make Aurum tokens with any excess they have so they can trade it on the market as they already do.
Aurum tokens are the new PLEX.
Agreed take out the middle man and allow Aurum to be used as an option to buy market items. An example would be to buy a raven for 200mill or 20 Aurum. |
AureoBroker
Natural Inventions
39
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Posted - 2012.05.10 15:39:00 -
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Rockius wrote:Soulpirate wrote:They should remove PLEX and just stick with AUR.
GTC gets converted to Aurum, that Aurum then can be used to purchase anything you want at the NeX including game time blocks of various sizes. 1 week, 1 month, 3 months, etc etc.
Allow players to make Aurum tokens with any excess they have so they can trade it on the market as they already do.
Aurum tokens are the new PLEX. Agreed take out the middle man and allow Aurum to be used as an option to buy market items. An example would be to buy a raven for 200mill or 20 Aurum. No, it's ********. Having a double market is bad. Free floating exchange on ISK:AURUM would work better.
The reality is that as soon as "I CAN GAIN REAL MONEY FROM IT" becomes real and easy, large-scale organized operations can be conducted. That includes botting. PLEX price would get skyhigh, to 2b and over, which would sink PLEX consumption and hardly waver PLEX creation. Meanwhile, the differential in those two gets sold back to CCP. That's BEFORE the problems it would create with the histeric playerbase.
So no, not going to happen. |
Messoroz
AQUILA INC Verge of Collapse
204
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Posted - 2012.05.10 15:55:00 -
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Many legal issues with officially doing RMT. One of which is money laundering. |
Rockius
Templar Corps
28
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Posted - 2012.05.10 16:03:00 -
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Messoroz wrote:Many legal issues with officially doing RMT. One of which is money laundering.
Thats why you use a 3rd party to moniter and mantain security and prevent things like this from happening. CCP lets them handle the legal responsibility for a nominal fee which would be attached to your account if you accepted the terms and conditions set forth by CCP and the 3rd party. |
Rhealee
An Eye For An Eye AN EYE F0R AN EYE
15
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Posted - 2012.05.10 16:27:00 -
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I too would love to cash out thousands of USD worth of assets but im affraid if you let loose that flood gate it would destroy the economy. There is a lot of players that make way more isk than we know what to do with, thats why we do stupid **** like officer fit paladins worth 30 billion or sit on lowsec gates smartbombing people in our erebus.
I think a RMT system would have to be crafted very carefully. I would also think you would see a lot more botting and in general isk farming which would cause a lot of inflation. Im sure it would balance out, the question is only where.
My 2 cents. |
Nefilus Drey
The Illuminatii Mildly Intoxicated
1
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Posted - 2012.05.15 06:42:00 -
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I would support any system that works so that I can cash in the many hours spent playing Eve into real money, as it is currently players poor money or time into the game (whatever they have more of) and all we get back is pixels that remain in the game.
I would play Eve a hell of a lot more if i could make real money out of it.
RMT will encourage more botting no doubt, but this will also make the botting more obvious and therefore more botting accounts will be banned in the process.
I personally dont see what all the fuss is about RMT from a players point of view, making money from something you enjoy doing sounds good to me. The current system already allows players with money to buy any item they want in the game via plex, you can even buy a high SP character so you dont have to spend months or years training up, so this argument is null.
Some thought will need to go into how the market works and how this will work with RMT so that the current economy continues to function properly.
The main reason we havent seen RMT (for players) is becasue CCP wants all the real money for themselves. Share a little CCP
RMT could work with the right system in place. |
Rockius
Templar Corps Rouge Trader Alliance
30
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Posted - 2012.05.15 08:44:00 -
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Nefilus Drey wrote:I would support any system that works so that I can cash in the many hours spent playing Eve into real money, as it is currently players poor money or time into the game (whatever they have more of) and all we get back is pixels that remain in the game. I would play Eve a hell of a lot more if i could make real money out of it. RMT will encourage more botting no doubt, but this will also make the botting more obvious and therefore more botting accounts will be banned in the process. I personally dont see what all the fuss is about RMT from a players point of view, making money from something you enjoy doing sounds good to me. The current system already allows players with money to buy any item they want in the game via plex, you can even buy a high SP character so you dont have to spend months or years training up, so this argument is null. Some thought will need to go into how the market works and how this will work with RMT so that the current economy continues to function properly. The main reason we havent seen RMT (for players) is becasue CCP wants all the real money for themselves. Share a little CCP RMT could work with the right system in place.
Agreed I am in your Jita filling your buy orders. |
Caliph Muhammed
Short Bus Friends
124
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Posted - 2012.05.15 08:48:00 -
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Had to hit Ebay up for my collectors edition the other day. I waited so long for d3 to come out I stopped keeping up with it and missed the reserve. Oh well I gotz my angel wings and dyes. |
Cloned S0ul
Blood Fanatics
41
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Posted - 2012.05.15 09:08:00 -
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Blizzard suck and wrote pact with devil, because they greedy company, they got expirence witht WOW, they realize they cant win vs RMT in large mass scale because is hard to control milions of own players, so they decide to allow-support RMT and they got some profit form this. |
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