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nayel khalor	Posted - 2009.05.16 14:26:00 - [1] Edited by: nayel khalor on 16/05/2009 14:35:41 what is the best cruiser and method(massive power gird issues)to get artillery cannons on since I cant stand auto cannons (range monkey here)I can get them on my stabber if I have 3 rcu and no tank. any help would be nice. thank you in advance.
Malarkie	Posted - 2009.05.16 14:33:00 - [2] Rupture Also...right click and select "fit to active ship"...seems to work well for me.
Roemy Schneider BINFORD	Posted - 2009.05.16 15:17:00 - [3] scimitar - it doesnt have a (med) weapon bonus, so you wont feel so bad if you only use 280mm's - putting the gist back into logistics
me bored	Posted - 2009.05.16 17:24:00 - [4] ruppy should manage a full rack of 720s with only 1 rcu. train advanced weapon upgrades.
Nefrin Maldoes Minmatar Outer Rim Survey and Salvage	Posted - 2009.05.16 17:27:00 - [5] Train for RCU II's Powergrid Rigs (forgot the exact name of them) As mentioned, Advanced Weapons Upgrade lowers powergrid need for turrets Also, take a look at the other modules you are using on the ship, are there some powergrid hungry ones that you could live without? ------------------------------------------------ SAN DIMAS HIGH SCHOOL FOOTBALL RULES!
abrasive soap Balls Deep Inc.	Posted - 2009.05.16 17:56:00 - [6] hurricane [Hurricane, New Setup 4] Damage Control II Gyrostabilizer II Gyrostabilizer II Gyrostabilizer II Reactor Control Unit II Reactor Control Unit II 10MN MicroWarpdrive I Large Shield Extender II Large Shield Extender II Warp Disruptor II 720mm Howitzer Artillery II, Tremor M 720mm Howitzer Artillery II, Tremor M 720mm Howitzer Artillery II, Tremor M 720mm Howitzer Artillery II, Tremor M 720mm Howitzer Artillery II, Tremor M 720mm Howitzer Artillery II, Tremor M Small Energy Neutralizer II Small Energy Neutralizer II Core Defence Field Extender I Core Defence Field Extender I Core Defence Field Extender I Warrior II x5 Warrior II x1
Kaileen Starsong Amarr Veto. Veto Corp	Posted - 2009.05.16 18:06:00 - [7] 720s are hardly worth fitting on non-specialized arty platforms(read:Muninn) imo. Higher range/alpha, but hard to fit and DPS is about the same if not lower than 650s(reloads+tracking). Ruppie with something like: 4x650s MWD, LSE, point 3xgyro, 1-2xTE, 1-0xDC Is probably best you could do with T1 cruiser and arties. That said, AC fitted it's far better...
Lilith Velkor Minmatar OVERLOAD. Dead Terrorists	Posted - 2009.05.16 19:41:00 - [8] Arties are pretty much broken if you ask me, not worth considering imo. The Muninn with its tracking bonus though makes a half-decent midrange sniper though, but I wouldnt try to use arties on ships without the tracking bonus. Needs AWU 4, didnt even bother with 720s. [Muninn, midrange] Gyrostabilizer II Gyrostabilizer II Gyrostabilizer II Nanofiber Internal Structure II Damage Control II 10MN MicroWarpdrive II Large Shield Extender II Large Shield Extender II 650mm Artillery Cannon II, Republic Fleet Nuclear M 650mm Artillery Cannon II, Republic Fleet Nuclear M 650mm Artillery Cannon II, Republic Fleet Nuclear M 650mm Artillery Cannon II, Republic Fleet Nuclear M 650mm Artillery Cannon II, Republic Fleet Nuclear M Standard Missile Launcher II, Caldari Navy Sabretooth Light Missile Standard Missile Launcher II, Caldari Navy Sabretooth Light Missile Anti-Kinetic Screen Reinforcer I Anti-Explosive Screen Reinforcer I Warrior II x5
abrasive soap Balls Deep Inc.	Posted - 2009.05.16 19:48:00 - [9] Originally by: Lilith Velkor Arties are pretty much broken if you ask me, not worth considering imo. The Muninn with its tracking bonus though makes a half-decent midrange sniper though, but I wouldnt try to use arties on ships without the tracking bonus. Needs AWU 4, didnt even bother with 720s. [Muninn, midrange] Gyrostabilizer II Gyrostabilizer II Gyrostabilizer II Nanofiber Internal Structure II Damage Control II 10MN MicroWarpdrive II Large Shield Extender II Large Shield Extender II 650mm Artillery Cannon II, Republic Fleet Nuclear M 650mm Artillery Cannon II, Republic Fleet Nuclear M 650mm Artillery Cannon II, Republic Fleet Nuclear M 650mm Artillery Cannon II, Republic Fleet Nuclear M 650mm Artillery Cannon II, Republic Fleet Nuclear M Standard Missile Launcher II, Caldari Navy Sabretooth Light Missile Standard Missile Launcher II, Caldari Navy Sabretooth Light Missile Anti-Kinetic Screen Reinforcer I Anti-Explosive Screen Reinforcer I Warrior II x5 Arty hurricanes do great dps and have decent range. Medium and small artillery are good its just large artillery that sucks. Your muninn fit is a wannabe hurricane that is overtanked.
Roemy Schneider BINFORD	Posted - 2009.05.16 21:28:00 - [10] do split weapons count..? use somewhere between 30-40km [Scythe Fleet Issue, New Setup 1] Beta Reactor Control: Diagnostic System I Beta Reactor Control: Diagnostic System I Damage Control II 10MN MicroWarpdrive II Large Shield Extender II Invulnerability Field II Phased Weapon Navigation Array Generation Extron 650mm Artillery Cannon II, Republic Fleet Fusion M 650mm Artillery Cannon II, Republic Fleet Fusion M 650mm Artillery Cannon II, Republic Fleet Fusion M 'Arbalest' Assault Missile Launcher, Sabretooth Light Missile 'Arbalest' Assault Missile Launcher, Sabretooth Light Missile 'Arbalest' Assault Missile Launcher, Sabretooth Light Missile Dynamic Fuel Valve I Auxiliary Thrusters I Auxiliary Thrusters I Warrior II x5 - putting the gist back into logistics
Lilith Velkor Minmatar OVERLOAD. Dead Terrorists	Posted - 2009.05.16 21:56:00 - [11] Originally by: abrasive soap Arty hurricanes do great dps and have decent range. Medium and small artillery are good its just large artillery that sucks. Your muninn fit is a wannabe hurricane that is overtanked. Arty hurricanes arent bad, but they are battlecruisers while the OP asked for cruisers. Besides the Muninn got the decent boni for arty, while the cane got the AC boni. And there is no such thing as overtanked if you are perfectly within half the hostile gangs weapons range. If your typical engagement range is around 60km, imo you are better of with extra buffer on your 100mill HAC than 10km extra range you never need.
abrasive soap Balls Deep Inc.	Posted - 2009.05.16 22:25:00 - [12] Originally by: Lilith Velkor Originally by: abrasive soap Arty hurricanes do great dps and have decent range. Medium and small artillery are good its just large artillery that sucks. Your muninn fit is a wannabe hurricane that is overtanked. Arty hurricanes arent bad, but they are battlecruisers while the OP asked for cruisers. Besides the Muninn got the decent boni for arty, while the cane got the AC boni. And there is no such thing as overtanked if you are perfectly within half the hostile gangs weapons range. If your typical engagement range is around 60km, imo you are better of with extra buffer on your 100mill HAC than 10km extra range you never need. The only reason to use a muninn over a hurricane is to get extra range but you can't lock that far without a sensor booster but instead he has an mwd and 2 lses. The hurricane doesn't have an ac or arty bonus (falloff/optimal), it has two damage bonuses. If you're typical engagement range is 60km the hurricane is better and almost as agile and quick as many cruisers.

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