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Darknesss
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Posted - 2012.05.10 18:25:00 -
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Win a Nyx Supercarrier! Please join my mailing list - Dark Market MailingBONUS PRIZE FOR PEOPLE BUMPING THREAD OF 250M ISK!In order to win this bonus prize you need to post in this thread. Posts are restricted to once every 24 hours as per CCP rules. When the lottery ends a dice roll will be linked with numbers 1-[however many posts] and the post number that matches the draw will win 250m. If the dice reveals me as the winner I will do another draw until someone else wins. please note you must be a ticket holder to win - if a non-ticket holder is drawn I will draw again. The same also applies to people bumping more than once every 24 hours - they too will be disqualified from the draw.There will be 2,500 tickets available at 10m each. You can monitor tickets at my website: WWW.DARKNESSS.NETHow will the lottery be drawn?This lottery will be drawn via Chribba's Dice. The Dice Link can be found here. Who are you?For information on who I am you can visit my [url=https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=7226&find=unread][/url] and see past trades and references from parties involved. What happens if i win and cant fly the ship?There are 3 options: 1) I can buy it back off you in a price we privately agree 2) I can fire sale it on a 24 hour no reserve auction and you keep the full proceeds 3) I can hold onto it (very short term) while you train the relevant skills. INSTRUCTIONS HOW TO TAKE PART - READ CAREFULLY!!!!!!Money is to be sent to Darknesss as shown below - REMEMBER MY NAME HAS THREE S's NOT TWO For one ticket you send 10,000,000 isk with reason DARK152For ten tickets you send 100,000,000 isk with reason DARK152For one hundred tickets you send 1,000,000,000 isk with reason DARK152ANY MONEY SENT NOT INCLUDING THIS REASON WILL BE TAKEN AS A DONATION UNLESS I FEEL A GENUINE MISTAKE HAS BEEN MADE. Any isk sent will be rounded down - so for one ticket you must send the full 10m. If 19m is sent that will only purchase you one ticket. The lottery will not be drawn until all tickets are sold. Good luck! |

donk man
Paragon Fury Tactical Narcotics Team
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Posted - 2012.05.10 18:27:00 -
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Major JSilva
Total Mayhem. Northern Coalition.
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de4deye
Politically Incorrect Brushie Brushie Brushie
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vordoa
Potomir Shipyards
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Naari Sukarala
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Posted - 2012.05.10 18:27:00 -
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FawKa
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Posted - 2012.05.10 18:28:00 -
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cut to the chase.. Faceless Joe, wins
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Faceless Joe
FinFleet Raiden.
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Posted - 2012.05.10 18:28:00 -
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BUMP |

spottington
StarFleet Enterprises Red Alliance
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Aero Aishai
Gamma Solutions The Cake is a Lie.
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Lavzeg
Hellfire Cult Suddenly Spaceships.
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xxLATVIANxx
Russian Thunder Squad Against ALL Authorities
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Tracie Holden
LightningStrikesTwice Elemental Tide
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Darknesss
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Posted - 2012.05.10 18:34:00 -
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Lottery now closed!
posts after this do not count towards bonus prize.
Best of luck to all!
Dark |

Lord Roix
Adrasaut
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Posted - 2012.05.10 18:44:00 -
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Ops! Fast :) Nvm then. |

Darknesss
V0LTA Verge of Collapse
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Posted - 2012.05.10 19:02:00 -
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Congratulations to...
Faceless Joe
You have just won a Nyx Supercarrier!
Congratulations also go to Naari Sukarala who won the bonus bumping prize of 250m.
Thanks to everyone who took part, and I hope to see you again soon! |

2ippy
TURN LEFT Fall From Heaven
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Posted - 2012.05.10 19:03:00 -
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you've gotta be fking kidding me |

Tracie Holden
LightningStrikesTwice Elemental Tide
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Posted - 2012.05.10 19:06:00 -
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3 in a row lolzzzzzzzzzz |

Kyt Thrace
Lightspeed Enterprises Tactical Narcotics Team
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Posted - 2012.05.10 19:06:00 -
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Wow,
Three in a row and in one day for Faceless Joe. I don't want to make a big fuss, but would this not make for a good argument that there should be a cap on tickets bought?
I love entering your lotteries Darkness, but this makes me not want too anymore. |

Faceless Joe
FinFleet Raiden.
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Posted - 2012.05.10 19:07:00 -
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LOL third one.
Thank you Darknesss for yet another great lottery. |

Doc Banshee
Baby Seal Bashing Club Ninja Unicorns with Huge Horns
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Posted - 2012.05.10 19:16:00 -
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This discussion has been up several times.
Malet erhhhh faceless joe buys 50% of the tickets. Either he loses 12,5bn, or wins 10bn (or how much Darknesss buys the nyx back for)
I can't see how it puts him at an unfair advantage. The guy with 1 ticket have won several times in the history.
\Doc |

Darknesss
V0LTA Verge of Collapse
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Posted - 2012.05.10 19:21:00 -
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Kyt Thrace wrote:Wow,
Three in a row and in one day for Faceless Joe. I don't want to make a big fuss, but would this not make for a good argument that there should be a cap on tickets bought?
I love entering your lotteries Darknesss, but this makes me not want too anymore.
Sorry that you feel that way matey.
I have thought long and hard about limiting tickets, however it makes literally no sense to do so from any perspective.
It does not increase anyone elses odds of winning and it has the potential to drag lotteries out for very long periods of time, some peoples supercarrier lotteries have taken weeks to sell out in the past, the fact is, there are not enough lottery players to limit ticket sales.
Apologies for this but I cannot please everyone and this is the most logical way to run them.
Kind regards, Dark
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de4deye
Politically Incorrect Brushie Brushie Brushie
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Posted - 2012.05.10 19:23:00 -
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Lol joe you are the man xD Also for the person whining a couple posts above, Joe spent a lot of isk on all 3 of those and risked getting nothing in return. If you don't like randomness then quit playing, stop taking probability personally. |

Kyt Thrace
Lightspeed Enterprises Tactical Narcotics Team
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Posted - 2012.05.10 19:37:00 -
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I am not whining, just bringing up a point, I know a lot of the others are thinking that can not put in 12.5 bil for a lottery.
I usually put in 100 mil for 10 tickets in all of Darknesss' lotteries I can. I put in 200 mil this morning before work in the first one DARK150.
I am at work, so miss the other two, DARK151 & DARK152. So technically, I could have lost 300 mil today for three lotteries.
When I get home today, I am going to send Faceless Joe, 100 mil just on principal, because that is what I would have lost.
I will probably keep playing, because I am addicted & need to go to EVE-Online Gamblers Anonymous.
Just wishing I have 12.5 bil isk to toss around out of the hundreds of billions Faceless or Malet already has. |

de4deye
Politically Incorrect Brushie Brushie Brushie
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Posted - 2012.05.10 19:45:00 -
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Maybe you should just stop doing lotteries for a while and then you will have isk saved up to do more lotteries later, and have a higher chance of winning by putting in more isk, like Joe did Then you would have nothing to whine about  |

Hugo Adama
Palmetto Galactic
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Posted - 2012.05.11 01:51:00 -
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Darknesss wrote:Kyt Thrace wrote:Wow,
Three in a row and in one day for Faceless Joe. I don't want to make a big fuss, but would this not make for a good argument that there should be a cap on tickets bought?
I love entering your lotteries Darknesss, but this makes me not want too anymore. Sorry that you feel that way matey. I have thought long and hard about limiting tickets, however it makes literally no sense to do so from any perspective. It does not increase anyone elses odds of winning and it has the potential to drag lotteries out for very long periods of time, some peoples supercarrier lotteries have taken weeks to sell out in the past, the fact is, there are not enough lottery players to limit ticket sales. Apologies for this but I cannot please everyone and this is the most logical way to run them. Kind regards, Dark
Limiting tickets would be a bad idea, but saying, "hey, you can only win one lottery a week" would be plenty fair. It would give more people chances to win, and not severely limit anybody except for guys like Joe who are obviously using these lotteries as a way to make money. Because I do agree with the sentiment that one guy winning 3 in a row is going to scare off people from purchasing tickets. It makes it looked rigged no matter how much transparency there is. |

Hiryu Jin
noXCorp Ninja Unicorns with Huge Horns
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Posted - 2012.05.11 05:00:00 -
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Hugo Adama wrote:Darknesss wrote:Kyt Thrace wrote:Wow,
Three in a row and in one day for Faceless Joe. I don't want to make a big fuss, but would this not make for a good argument that there should be a cap on tickets bought?
I love entering your lotteries Darknesss, but this makes me not want too anymore. Sorry that you feel that way matey. I have thought long and hard about limiting tickets, however it makes literally no sense to do so from any perspective. It does not increase anyone elses odds of winning and it has the potential to drag lotteries out for very long periods of time, some peoples supercarrier lotteries have taken weeks to sell out in the past, the fact is, there are not enough lottery players to limit ticket sales. Apologies for this but I cannot please everyone and this is the most logical way to run them. Kind regards, Dark Limiting tickets would be a bad idea, but saying, "hey, you can only win one lottery a week" would be plenty fair. It would give more people chances to win, and not severely limit anybody except for guys like Joe who are obviously using these lotteries as a way to make money. Because I do agree with the sentiment that one guy winning 3 in a row is going to scare off people from purchasing tickets. It makes it looked rigged no matter how much transparency there is.
so if I use 30 dif alts to buy tickets, it's ok? This changes nothing. Whether or not someone buys 2,000 tickets or 2,000 people buy 1 ticket each, your odds are the same. The tickets are given out semi-randomly and the dice roll is random. I don't see the problem.
I've won quite a few of these types of lottos... Some of them I won with as few as 250m in tickets, some I lost with as much as 5b. It sucks to lose, but I don't think it's unfair (except when it's malet, that cheater). That's why it's called gambling.
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Hugo Adama
Palmetto Galactic
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Posted - 2012.05.11 05:05:00 -
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Hiryu Jin wrote:Hugo Adama wrote:Darknesss wrote:Kyt Thrace wrote:Wow,
Three in a row and in one day for Faceless Joe. I don't want to make a big fuss, but would this not make for a good argument that there should be a cap on tickets bought?
I love entering your lotteries Darknesss, but this makes me not want too anymore. Sorry that you feel that way matey. I have thought long and hard about limiting tickets, however it makes literally no sense to do so from any perspective. It does not increase anyone elses odds of winning and it has the potential to drag lotteries out for very long periods of time, some peoples supercarrier lotteries have taken weeks to sell out in the past, the fact is, there are not enough lottery players to limit ticket sales. Apologies for this but I cannot please everyone and this is the most logical way to run them. Kind regards, Dark Limiting tickets would be a bad idea, but saying, "hey, you can only win one lottery a week" would be plenty fair. It would give more people chances to win, and not severely limit anybody except for guys like Joe who are obviously using these lotteries as a way to make money. Because I do agree with the sentiment that one guy winning 3 in a row is going to scare off people from purchasing tickets. It makes it looked rigged no matter how much transparency there is. so if I use 30 dif alts to buy tickets, it's ok? This changes nothing. Whether or not someone buys 2,000 tickets or 2,000 people buy 1 ticket each, your odds are the same. The tickets are given out semi-randomly and the dice roll is random. I don't see the problem. I've won quite a few of these types of lottos... Some of them I won with as few as 250m in tickets, some I lost with as much as 5b. It sucks to lose, but I don't think it's unfair (except when it's malet, that cheater). That's why it's called gambling.
did you even read what I wrote? |

FawKa
x13
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Posted - 2012.05.11 05:23:00 -
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Kyt Thrace wrote:I am not whining, just bringing up a point, I know a lot of the others are thinking that can not put in 12.5 bil for a lottery.
I usually put in 100 mil for 10 tickets in all of Darknesss' lotteries I can. I put in 200 mil this morning before work in the first one DARK150.
I am at work, so miss the other two, DARK151 & DARK152. So technically, I could have lost 300 mil today for three lotteries.
When I get home today, I am going to send Faceless Joe, 100 mil just on principal, because that is what I would have lost.
I will probably keep playing, because I am addicted & need to go to EVE-Online Gamblers Anonymous.
Just wishing I have 12.5 bil isk to toss around out of the hundreds of billions Faceless or Malet already has.
You do realise that you have the same %-odds of winning right? Even if you bought 10 shares and faceless bought every other ticket aval. Your odds are the exact same as if 200 eve players bought the rest of the tickets. You would still sit with the same amount and therfor the same %-chance of winning. It's a game of pure luck. Some times some random guy buying 5 tickets wins over those that bought 1000 tickets. |

Hiryu Jin
noXCorp Ninja Unicorns with Huge Horns
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Posted - 2012.05.11 05:25:00 -
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Hugo Adama wrote:Hiryu Jin wrote:Hugo Adama wrote:Darknesss wrote:Kyt Thrace wrote:Wow,
Three in a row and in one day for Faceless Joe. I don't want to make a big fuss, but would this not make for a good argument that there should be a cap on tickets bought?
I love entering your lotteries Darknesss, but this makes me not want too anymore. Sorry that you feel that way matey. I have thought long and hard about limiting tickets, however it makes literally no sense to do so from any perspective. It does not increase anyone elses odds of winning and it has the potential to drag lotteries out for very long periods of time, some peoples supercarrier lotteries have taken weeks to sell out in the past, the fact is, there are not enough lottery players to limit ticket sales. Apologies for this but I cannot please everyone and this is the most logical way to run them. Kind regards, Dark Limiting tickets would be a bad idea, but saying, "hey, you can only win one lottery a week" would be plenty fair. It would give more people chances to win, and not severely limit anybody except for guys like Joe who are obviously using these lotteries as a way to make money. Because I do agree with the sentiment that one guy winning 3 in a row is going to scare off people from purchasing tickets. It makes it looked rigged no matter how much transparency there is. so if I use 30 dif alts to buy tickets, it's ok? This changes nothing. Whether or not someone buys 2,000 tickets or 2,000 people buy 1 ticket each, your odds are the same. The tickets are given out semi-randomly and the dice roll is random. I don't see the problem. I've won quite a few of these types of lottos... Some of them I won with as few as 250m in tickets, some I lost with as much as 5b. It sucks to lose, but I don't think it's unfair (except when it's malet, that cheater). That's why it's called gambling. did you even read what I wrote?
Actually, I didn't. :p Quoted wrong post.. |

Vera Algaert
Republic University Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2012.05.11 08:58:00 -
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E[aX] = a*E[X]
some people in this thread seem to have a hard time understanding this...
Buying more than one ticket in a lottery doesn't give you any advantage - the expected value of each ticket is always the same (and always negative). Buy one ticket in each of a hundred (identical) lotteries or a hundred tickets in one lottery, only the variance changes but not your expected loss. |
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