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Akirei Scytale
Test Alliance Please Ignore
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Posted - 2012.05.10 21:36:00 -
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Ana Vyr wrote:The alliance concept itself killed nullsec. Go back to corps only. No more supergroups.
It literally won't make a difference whether or not the organization present in large coalitions is mostly or only partially solidified in the game mechanics.
TEST Alliance BEST Alliance |
Just Alter
Enlightened Industries
Test Alliance Please Ignore
102
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Posted - 2012.05.10 21:41:00 -
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Zyress wrote:Large SOV holding alliances killed nullsec, they hold it, they guard it, so we say, screw it they can have it. Which of course pisses them off no end and makes me laugh as they try to find ways to make us go out there and play with them.
It pisses them off?
I dont get this post.
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NickyYo
StarHug
69
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Posted - 2012.05.10 21:59:00 -
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Just Alter wrote:Zyress wrote:Large SOV holding alliances killed nullsec, they hold it, they guard it, so we say, screw it they can have it. Which of course pisses them off no end and makes me laugh as they try to find ways to make us go out there and play with them. I dont get this post.
You are a goon pet after all..
The null sec power blocks are nothing when no one wants to play in null sec anymore. |
Zyress
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
72
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Posted - 2012.05.10 22:03:00 -
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Just Alter wrote:Zyress wrote:Large SOV holding alliances killed nullsec, they hold it, they guard it, so we say, screw it they can have it. Which of course pisses them off no end and makes me laugh as they try to find ways to make us go out there and play with them. It pisses them off? I dont get this post.
Its pathetic really, they stamp their feet they whine they scream "CCP! Those meanies in high-sec won't play with me!" So they look for ways to nerf game play in high -sec to try and convince high-sec dwellers to go play with their little babies. |
Weaselior
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
3090
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Posted - 2012.05.10 22:08:00 -
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NickyYo wrote:Just Alter wrote:Zyress wrote:Large SOV holding alliances killed nullsec, they hold it, they guard it, so we say, screw it they can have it. Which of course pisses them off no end and makes me laugh as they try to find ways to make us go out there and play with them. I dont get this post. You are a goon pet after all.. The null sec power blocks are nothing when no one wants to play in null sec anymore.
we're organized rich as balls highsec griefing powerblocs at that point
though granted we're already that and null ain't dead at all |
Khanh'rhh
Sudden Buggery
1151
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Posted - 2012.05.10 23:51:00 -
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Patient 2428190 wrote:The PvP being better really makes no sense.
Unless maybe you always thought camping a high sec exit hole, always ready to jump into safety in a moment's notice, with the petition saved in the notepad in case you get killed on the other side is thrilling game play?
Sure other things may happen, but pretty sure that's the major one.
Very little PVP ever happens on a highsec WH.
What does happen is you get day trippers sitting on the inside of a highsec WH thinking they can kill something, eventually getting bored and leaving.
The vast majority of WH pvp happens off a highsec WH.
People say it is "better PVP" as the size of the gang you can bring is heavily limited and there's no magical free intel channel called "local" which can ruin most plans before they're formed.
Of course, if you want fleet fights and not small gang fights then you'll not see it as "better."
I know, I know, you just like to troll, but at least try and bring a coherent and meaningful point along with it.
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Doctor Ungabungas
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
159
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Posted - 2012.05.10 23:59:00 -
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Bootleg Jack wrote:Calfis wrote:If nullsec is dead why do the blobs seem to be getting bigger? Because most "PvPers" are afraid to go out alone? Blob PvP is low risk.
It's dangerous to go alone.
Take this! |
Gogela
Freeport Exploration
Loosely Affiliated Pirates Alliance
738
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Posted - 2012.05.10 23:59:00 -
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To be clear.. I don't think WHs had anything to do with the decline of Null. Null was sliding before WHs came out. The fix for null will have little to do with WHs in my humble opinion.
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Just Lilly
14
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Posted - 2012.05.11 00:05:00 -
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Wspace generates more adrenaline then null does imo.
Love it
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Skydell
Space Mermaids
Somethin Awfull Forums
264
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Posted - 2012.05.11 00:20:00 -
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You forgot, no super caps in wormhole space.
I'd still rather be in Stain but I know better than to even go that route. |
Nephilius
Knights of Athena
Star Council
413
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Posted - 2012.05.11 00:25:00 -
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Calfis wrote:If nullsec is dead why do the blobs seem to be getting bigger?
Corpses have a tendency to bloat, at least until you poke them with a stick.
"If." |
Anya Ohaya
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
111
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Posted - 2012.05.11 00:27:00 -
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Akirei Scytale wrote:Miilla wrote:Wormholes are great as personal region taxies (Wonkavaders).
You are just bitter because using Wormholes we can get into deep null past your choke point gate camps. I love it when TEST finds a wormhole that can be taken as a shortcut to get to a distant objective / fight. 9/10 times people get stuck outside the entrance or inside, lol.
This is what makes wormholes more friendly to small ops and solo players, not just the lack of local. Force projection is much harder because of mass limits and changing topography. You can move a small fleet a couple of hops, but trying to move a hundred ships through even a small chain would become much more logistically difficult. |
Verte Sinkon
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
22
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Posted - 2012.05.11 00:30:00 -
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Hell of a lot of people being passive aggressive about getting their asses kicked in/out of null sec or something because damn. |
Akirei Scytale
Test Alliance Please Ignore
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Posted - 2012.05.11 00:31:00 -
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Nullsec doesn't seem very dead from my vantage point!
TEST Alliance BEST Alliance |
Darth Tickles
Dark Sun Consortium
372
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Posted - 2012.05.11 00:51:00 -
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Akirei Scytale wrote:Nullsec doesn't seem very dead from my vantage point!
Eve has been dying for 9 years. |
Mars Theran
EVE Rogues
EVE Rogues Alliance
193
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Posted - 2012.05.11 00:56:00 -
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Patient 2428190 wrote:The PvP being better really makes no sense.
Unless maybe you always thought camping a high sec exit hole, always ready to jump into safety in a moment's notice, with the petition saved in the notepad in case you get killed on the other side is thrilling game play?
Sure other things may happen, but pretty sure that's the major one.
Those games only happen with non-wormholers for the most part as far as I know. In my experience that was generally the case anyway. Wormholers tend to have more important and/or better things to do.
PvP in wormholes can be very good. Mostly it is small gang skirmishes and sometimes solo stuff. A lot of Wormholers are PvPers either by nature, experience, or requirement; it's pretty well a given that you can expect they'll use tactics from Low to Null as well as some new stuff specific to wormhole fighting.
Specific conditions in wormholes also make things interesting, and you'll find battles can move back and forth and often the outcome is determined by knowledge of the terrain as much as by skill and determination. Even I've had fun doing it with my lack of experience.
Didn't get any kills, but that was mostly because ships blow up to fast when you actually get down and engage. I did survive one encounter I probably wouldn't have in K-Space too. The mechanics don't include aggression on Wormholes, but are timed instead, so I survived because I was tanked like a beast and managed to dodge through with 7 attackers or so.
Alliance Auction - EVE Rogues: https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=1215438#post1215438 |
Akirei Scytale
Test Alliance Please Ignore
1415
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Posted - 2012.05.11 01:07:00 -
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Darth Tickles wrote:Akirei Scytale wrote:Nullsec doesn't seem very dead from my vantage point! Eve has been dying for 9 years.
Doesn't look that way to me. It has plateaued, but sure isn't dying.
TEST Alliance BEST Alliance |
NickyYo
StarHug
70
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Posted - 2012.05.11 01:10:00 -
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Darth Tickles wrote:Akirei Scytale wrote:Nullsec doesn't seem very dead from my vantage point! Eve has been dying for 9 years.
And here we have the dweller never anything positive to say.. You must have a s-h-i-t life bro.. |
Nephilius
Knights of Athena
Star Council
413
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Posted - 2012.05.11 01:11:00 -
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Akirei Scytale wrote:Darth Tickles wrote:Akirei Scytale wrote:Nullsec doesn't seem very dead from my vantage point! Eve has been dying for 9 years. Doesn't look that way to me. It has plateaued, but sure isn't dying.
How beautiful...It's New Eden's heartbeat...
"If." |
Darth Tickles
Dark Sun Consortium
372
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Posted - 2012.05.11 01:18:00 -
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Sorry, let me rephrase that.
Eve has been "dying" for 9 years.
I think the first go may have been a bit too subtle. |
Akirei Scytale
Test Alliance Please Ignore
1415
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Posted - 2012.05.11 01:21:00 -
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Darth Tickles wrote:Sorry, let me rephrase that.
Eve has been "dying" for 9 years.
I think the first go may have been a bit too subtle.
The game is only getting better.
TEST Alliance BEST Alliance |
Markus Reese
Debitum Naturae
ROMANIAN-LEGION
172
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Posted - 2012.05.11 01:26:00 -
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I don't like how wormholes turned out, but they are a good thing for nullsec. Some alliances like it, but most players it can be the first taste of nullsec life. They get bored, move on, but after tasting it, they want it back and join low/null. |
Akirei Scytale
Test Alliance Please Ignore
1415
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Posted - 2012.05.11 01:30:00 -
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Markus Reese wrote:I don't like how wormholes turned out, but they are a good thing for nullsec. Some alliances like it, but most players it can be the first taste of nullsec life. They get bored, move on, but after tasting it, they want it back and join low/null.
Eh, WHs are pretty different from null. They're harsher in some ways (no local, no stations, etc), more forgiving in others (extremely easy to defend, very safe from roaming ganks, little need for coordination past a point). I wouldn't say living in one gives you a taste of 0.0 life, so much as it gives you a taste of WH life.
TEST Alliance BEST Alliance |
Apolyon I
AQUILA INC
Verge of Collapse
37
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Posted - 2012.05.11 01:48:00 -
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Markus Reese wrote:I don't like how wormholes turned out, but they are a good thing for nullsec. Some alliances like it, but most players it can be the first taste of nullsec life. They get bored, move on, but after tasting it, they want it back and join low/null.
hell no, I was in null. will ever never go back there |
Akirei Scytale
Test Alliance Please Ignore
1415
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Posted - 2012.05.11 01:49:00 -
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Apolyon I wrote:Markus Reese wrote:I don't like how wormholes turned out, but they are a good thing for nullsec. Some alliances like it, but most players it can be the first taste of nullsec life. They get bored, move on, but after tasting it, they want it back and join low/null. hell no, I was in null. will ever never go back there
I take it you lost? 
TEST Alliance BEST Alliance |
Akirei Scytale
Test Alliance Please Ignore
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Posted - 2012.05.11 01:50:00 -
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Apolyon I wrote:Markus Reese wrote:I don't like how wormholes turned out, but they are a good thing for nullsec. Some alliances like it, but most players it can be the first taste of nullsec life. They get bored, move on, but after tasting it, they want it back and join low/null. hell no, I was in null. will ever never go back there
I take it you lost?
Finfleet in corp history. Suspicions confirmed. Must be ****** to join an alliance with unreasonable expectations of its members only to lose to one having fun!
TEST Alliance BEST Alliance |
Apolyon I
AQUILA INC
Verge of Collapse
37
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Posted - 2012.05.11 01:58:00 -
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Akirei Scytale wrote:Apolyon I wrote:Markus Reese wrote:I don't like how wormholes turned out, but they are a good thing for nullsec. Some alliances like it, but most players it can be the first taste of nullsec life. They get bored, move on, but after tasting it, they want it back and join low/null. hell no, I was in null. will ever never go back there I take it you lost? Finfleet in corp history. Suspicions confirmed. Must be ****** to join an alliance with unreasonable expectations of its members only to lose to one having fun!
no, nothing alliance related, just NS sucks, blob sucks too.
EDIT: here's how NS works, enemy has 10 guys, if I fly my bhaal in and fight, it'll rise to 30 guys try to ***** on my km
for WH enemy still has 10 guys, see the difference?? |
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