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Flapkonijn
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Posted - 2009.05.18 11:25:00 -
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Hi Everyone
This might be already proposed in a diffrent form before but here goes:
I'd like to see a history on a ship E.G Age, Damage Recieved, PVP Battles Survived, How Many owners ect.
I think it would add sentimental value and more character to ships people fly. 
Most of the data which is needed is on the server anyway.
Please give me your views and input.
Don't just flame me like a noob or something.
Thanks
Flap
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Leana Darkrider
Creatio -ex- nihilo
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Posted - 2009.05.18 12:37:00 -
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I like the idea very much,
But I think the server isn't that happy about it.
ps, geinige naam heb je daar 
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Soulspatch
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Posted - 2009.05.18 12:51:00 -
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Signed. I think it is a good idea. Don't know how CCP would implement it though. I name my ships but having that sort of info on a ship would add in a sentimental way. Even if they only added the construction date, and amount of Sheild, Armour and hull damage taken. It's the little things like this that adds depth to the game. I can just see PvPer's using something like this to boast to friends and enemies alike.
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Flapkonijn
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Posted - 2009.05.19 11:26:00 -
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Edited by: Flapkonijn on 19/05/2009 11:33:56
Edited by: Flapkonijn on 19/05/2009 11:33:00
That's what i thought.
Giving the game a bit more feeling.
like owning a second hand car with all the memories attached 
Even if it only has a Date Commisioned and DPS received and chucked out would go a long way.
ANyway that's me trying to make the game a bit more feely feely 
Flap
(P.S Dank je Leana :-P heb ik al bijna 9 jaar nu waarvan 5 in eve )
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ShadowDraqon
The Quantum Company
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Posted - 2009.05.19 11:34:00 -
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 Originally by: Soulspatch
Signed. I think it is a good idea. Don't know how CCP would implement it though. I name my ships but having that sort of info on a ship would add in a sentimental way. Even if they only added the construction date, and amount of Sheild, Armour and hull damage taken. It's the little things like this that adds depth to the game. I can just see PvPer's using something like this to boast to friends and enemies alike.
I can imagine someone using a tanking alt to get the damage dealt/taken stats up for 2 ships wouldn't be the first pointless activity to take place...
~ MED-SEC ~
AND
The Blatantly Obvious |
Flapkonijn
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Posted - 2009.05.19 11:39:00 -
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Originally by: ShadowDraqon
Originally by: Soulspatch
Signed. I think it is a good idea. Don't know how CCP would implement it though. I name my ships but having that sort of info on a ship would add in a sentimental way. Even if they only added the construction date, and amount of Sheild, Armour and hull damage taken. It's the little things like this that adds depth to the game. I can just see PvPer's using something like this to boast to friends and enemies alike.
I can imagine someone using a tanking alt to get the damage dealt/taken stats up for 2 ships wouldn't be the first pointless activity to take place...
I see what you mean Shadow... but it's not the main point of boasting.
It's to have a like a kind of bond with your ship.
***million DPS done by people bored enough to actually use that would not give them the sattisfaction of actually getting that in combat does it?
But yes i do see that their would be sad people that would actually spend 2 days straight taking DPS and disshing it out.
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ShadowDraqon
The Quantum Company
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Posted - 2009.05.19 11:50:00 -
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Originally by: Flapkonijn
Originally by: ShadowDraqon
Originally by: Soulspatch
Signed. I think it is a good idea. Don't know how CCP would implement it though. I name my ships but having that sort of info on a ship would add in a sentimental way. Even if they only added the construction date, and amount of Sheild, Armour and hull damage taken. It's the little things like this that adds depth to the game. I can just see PvPer's using something like this to boast to friends and enemies alike.
I can imagine someone using a tanking alt to get the damage dealt/taken stats up for 2 ships wouldn't be the first pointless activity to take place...
I see what you mean Shadow... but it's not the main point of boasting.
It's to have a like a kind of bond with your ship.
***million DPS done by people bored enough to actually use that would not give them the sattisfaction of actually getting that in combat does it?
But yes i do see that their would be sad people that would actually spend 2 days straight taking DPS and disshing it out.
I know, I would love to have this on my Abby, I love it already.
~ MED-SEC ~
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The Blatantly Obvious |
Flapkonijn
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Posted - 2009.06.19 13:01:00 -
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/BUMP
Like to hear some more views if possible still hopeing CCP will look at this as well.
Flap
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Yal XianKun
Ominous Corp
Ethereal Dawn
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Posted - 2009.06.19 13:05:00 -
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Originally by: Flapkonijn
/BUMP
Like to hear some more views if possible still hopeing CCP will look at this as well.
Flap
The feeling of accomplishment if you killed a BS that has been around a year and done squillions of points of damage would be cool. Remember how many people had something to say when Hera died?
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Robert Caldera
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Posted - 2009.06.19 13:17:00 -
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I really support this idea.
Having some ship history would add more immersion to the game.
Information of the build date, shipyard location, received damage, owners etc. would be a great addition!
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PupetMaster
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Posted - 2009.06.19 14:44:00 -
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Yes, i love the ideea too. And you can choose the info to be private or public.
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Marcus Gideon
Gallente
The NightClub
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Posted - 2009.06.19 14:49:00 -
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So wait... this is like CARFAX in EVE?
The only problem with this would be... damage has no bearing on continued performance.
CARFAX is important, because we don't have nanobots who crawl around the ship and fix everything. The motor wears down, and nothing builds it back up. The body gets dings and dents, and no "reppers" mend those.
If ships were more persistant, in that damage left scars and such, then perhaps. But that's adding whole new levels to the game mechanics. And eventually you'd have to decommission (read: scrap and get another) your ships when they've seen too much use.
But that's just my 0.02 ISK |
Sigras
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Posted - 2009.06.19 16:13:00 -
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i dont think CARFAX is the idea . . . it would be like painting the silhouettes of ships you destroyed on your ship, it would just be freaking cool to see my dominix fly by and you see rokh rokh raven raven raven apoc  |
Ortos
Federal Defence Union
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Posted - 2009.06.19 16:19:00 -
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actually sounds like a really cool feature
Yarrrr |
Santiago Fahahrri
Galactic Geographic
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Posted - 2009.06.19 16:24:00 -
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I like the concept.
~ Santiago Fahahrri
Galactic Geographic |
Grarr Dexx
Amarr
Corp 1 Allstars
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Posted - 2009.06.19 17:12:00 -
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Impossible... Server would have to spawn a database entry per historic vessel unlike one entry for all ships of a single type. |
Gwydion Telcontar
Gallente
Ixion Defence Systems
Sc0rched Earth
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Posted - 2009.06.19 18:35:00 -
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At the least a commission date would be nice!
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Flapkonijn
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Posted - 2009.06.22 11:26:00 -
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Edited by: Flapkonijn on 22/06/2009 11:28:45
Originally by: Gwydion Telcontar
At the least a commission date would be nice!
/This
I think people would have more of a bond with their ship if they havn't lost it for over a year.
And i'd be more carefull with pirates flying a ship which was launched 2 years ago then someone who just had a week.
I know the specs would be hard to do like DPS and Damage received but amount of kills with current ship should be easy.
The whole idea is just to give EvE more character because i feel at times EvE is a bit to much like numbers vs numbers instead of actaully feeling anything for the ship your flying.
Originally by: Grarr Dexx
Impossible... Server would have to spawn a database entry per historic vessel unlike one entry for all ships of a single type.
Doesnt the DB spawn a killmail for every kill in game with all the specs in it? Doesn't it get saved for every char in your details?
SO why not link it to a ship? less details though like said above. Date Kills...
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King Rothgar
Death of Virtue
MeatSausage EXPRESS
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Posted - 2009.06.22 11:43:00 -
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Edited by: King Rothgar on 22/06/2009 11:44:51
Good idea, I already try to keep track of kills scored with my ships but it's a real pain. I don't see why the DB couldn't keep track of kills with a given hull. Owner's list, battles survived and construction date would be good additions too. My longest run was with an abaddon, scored around 90 solo/small gang kills with a single hull. I haven't come anywhere near that since. Really wish it were possible to show that kind of achievement off somehow. Of course, we would also need to have it have an option to show what ships where killed. Other wise you'd have idiots blowing up thousands of shuttles just to make it look good. |
Flapkonijn
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Posted - 2009.06.22 11:48:00 -
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kinda like:
Current Hull Kills:
BS's: 2
Elite Cruisers: 1
BC's: 5
Frigates: 9
Ect ect |
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Guy Fitzgerald
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Posted - 2009.06.22 14:27:00 -
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Sounds nice, while i wouldnt care that much for the Damage dealt/received (which doesnt mean its a bad idea, its just me who wouldnt give too much about this stats, still nice to have them thought), the previous Owner list and a Built by/Built on (date)
would be cool.
Would maybe even give Collectors something new to shot for (like the owning the Oldest Raven in the game or something)
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Photus
Caldari
Roll For Initiative
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Posted - 2009.06.22 15:15:00 -
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/signed.
I like the idea as it also gives you an idea with how good a pilot is. If you show info on someone who has had the same Raven for three years, you might not want to mess with them. On the other hand, if someone undocks with a T2 that's only an hour old, it'd probably be fun to blow it up!
It just goes to show you that you shouldn't kneel down in front of the third rail, grab it with both hands, and **** on it from three feet away. |
Flapkonijn
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Posted - 2009.06.23 11:23:00 -
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/Bumpage
WOuld like to have a response from CCP as well :-P
Not saying yes or no just maybe hearing if this would actually be a possebillity.
Flap :-) |
Danton Marcellus
Nebula Rasa Holdings
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Posted - 2009.06.23 11:38:00 -
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It would have to be a notepad added to the ship where you can edit the info yourself, how accurate that will be is anyones guess. |
Hemp Invader
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Posted - 2009.06.23 13:56:00 -
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programmer's point of view:
need another variable for the damage taken
need a routine to increment that value
The numbers tend to get pretty large so a 64bit integer will be requiered(at least).
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you use 8 octets for each ship in the game:)(times 1 billion ships???...8 GB of memory)
you use computing time for the incrementation of those variables.
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memory space and computing time wasted...fail :) |
Maxsim Goratiev
Gallente
Imperial Tau Syndicate
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Posted - 2009.06.24 08:42:00 -
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Originally by: Hemp Invader
programmer's point of view:
need another variable for the damage taken
need a routine to increment that value
The numbers tend to get pretty large so a 64bit integer will be requiered(at least).
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you use 8 octets for each ship in the game:)(times 1 billion ships???...8 GB of memory)
you use computing time for the incrementation of those variables.
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memory space and computing time wasted...fail :)
i suspect that much more then 8GB of memory is waisted on useless posts on this forum of sort "RA sucks"
8GB is not much. I mean we are talking about enterprise where gigabites float around withing seconds.
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Yal XianKun
Ominous Corp
Ethereal Dawn
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Posted - 2009.06.24 11:21:00 -
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Originally by: Hemp Invader
programmer's point of view:
need another variable for the damage taken
need a routine to increment that value
The numbers tend to get pretty large so a 64bit integer will be requiered(at least).
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you use 8 octets for each ship in the game:)(times 1 billion ships???...8 GB of memory)
you use computing time for the incrementation of those variables.
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memory space and computing time wasted...fail :)
If you are not lazyloading your heavy operations (or caching them), then you fail as a programmer. That little circle spinning is a sign the server is working to retrieve operations as required. This would only be necessary if you looked at that tab which had ship history. I doubt that 50k players will look at the ship histories of one billion ships simultaneously.
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Flapkonijn
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Posted - 2009.06.24 11:29:00 -
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lol Thanks for showing me the technical side of doing this.
but i do agree not everyone will be looking at every ships at every second of the game.
Cheers
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Menzisu Uiru
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Posted - 2009.06.24 11:51:00 -
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Would like to see a record kept of kills for each ship as long as the name of the ship stays the same. So certain ships could become infamous. Black Pearl anyone? |
Flapkonijn
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Posted - 2009.06.24 12:02:00 -
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Originally by: Menzisu Uiru
Would like to see a record kept of kills for each ship as long as the name of the ship stays the same. So certain ships could become infamous. Black Pearl anyone?
^^^This what i mean with giving ships Charactar
People with 3 year old ships with 1000+ kills would be renowned and feared  |
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