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CriticalHurt
Viziam Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2012.05.11 12:47:00 -
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it looks like there is a shortage of scimitars builders why is that ? |

De Guillaume
Black And Yellow Investments
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Posted - 2012.05.11 12:52:00 -
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part of my grand plan  :} |

Cedo Nulli
Royal Amarr Institute Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2012.05.11 19:34:00 -
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Time to unload my stockpile of 5000 units ! |

Mars Theran
EVE Rogues EVE Rogues Alliance
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Posted - 2012.05.12 02:35:00 -
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..you mean Skimatar? 
Nope, not me. Can't see a good reason to either. Shield repper, paper-thin, everyone armor tanks in PvP, logi's are not much use in Wormholes or PvP. Now if it was a Guardian... Alliance Auction - EVE Rogues: https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=1215438#post1215438 |

Boomhaur
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Posted - 2012.05.12 04:37:00 -
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I haven't seen a scimatar since I've flown one when I was a noob and didn't know any better. Mabey noobs are smarter than I was when I first started playing and I doubt these things sell that well. |

Terajima Kazumi
Enlightened Industries Test Alliance Please Ignore
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Posted - 2012.05.12 07:13:00 -
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You guys are kind of clueless (the two posters above me). Trade volume for Scimitars in Jita is roughly equal to trade volume for the other three logistics hulls combined and scimitars remain competitive elsewhere (predictably, racial hulls become more competitive in their respective racial hubs, though volume is poor outside of Jita).
I stick to nullsec so I don't know what the lowsec guys like to use these days, but in nullsec, shield fleets are rather popular and Scimitars are preferred over Basilisks; there's certainly plenty of demand for Scimitars, which is consistent with observed trade volume. |

Mars Theran
EVE Rogues EVE Rogues Alliance
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Posted - 2012.05.12 18:14:00 -
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I always just assumed Null built their own Logis and the like. Why would they have any impact on Jita trade volume except for toys and resources?
Not that I've ever looked at the trade volume of Scimitars, but I haven't ever seen one outside of an Alliance video. Basilisks tend to be favored for wormholes where shields matter, but only for PvP or lower class WH sleepers. Never seen a Scimitar used for Logi in Highsec or Lowsec that I can recall; not even for station games, but I don't get out much these days.
Guardians are, or were, used fairly often for Incursions as I recall, with a lot of the successful Incursion runners using armor. From other thread, I gather they still do. Most small gang warfare I've seen in Lowsec, (Pirates et al), are using Amarr or Gallente Armor, or they are using Minmatar which are often armor tanked.
The exceptions being Drakes and Falcons for the most part. That is just what I've seen though and it's hard to make a statement that nobody uses anything else anywhere.
Null of course has massive Drake fleets, Mael Fleets, etc.. but those are Null and I don't expect to see Alliance shopping at the local Wal-Mart. Alliance Auction - EVE Rogues: https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=1215438#post1215438 |

Javajunky
Eternity INC. Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2012.05.12 18:29:00 -
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Mars Theran wrote:I always just assumed Null built their own Logis and the like. Why would they have any impact on Jita trade volume except for toys and resources?
Not that I've ever looked at the trade volume of Scimitars, but I haven't ever seen one outside of an Alliance video. Basilisks tend to be favored for wormholes where shields matter, but only for PvP or lower class WH sleepers. Never seen a Scimitar used for Logi in Highsec or Lowsec that I can recall; not even for station games, but I don't get out much these days.
Guardians are, or were, used fairly often for Incursions as I recall, with a lot of the successful Incursion runners using armor. From other thread, I gather they still do. Most small gang warfare I've seen in Lowsec, (Pirates et al), are using Amarr or Gallente Armor, or they are using Minmatar which are often armor tanked.
The exceptions being Drakes and Falcons for the most part. That is just what I've seen though and it's hard to make a statement that nobody uses anything else anywhere.
Null of course has massive Drake fleets, Mael Fleets, etc.. but those are Null and I don't expect to see Alliance shopping at the local Wal-Mart.
You are quite mistaken, you dont see them because they are on empire alts so they don't get targeted but null sec is not building as much as you'd like to think especailly T2, there's very little T2 production in null sec just due to needing an array of moon goo products and weighing opportuntiy costs. |

SmugLord
Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2012.05.13 11:54:00 -
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Confirming must null alliances buy all the ships in jita  |

Caleb Ayrania
TarNec
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Posted - 2012.05.14 23:15:00 -
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Javajunky wrote:Mars Theran wrote:I always just assumed Null built their own Logis and the like. Why would they have any impact on Jita trade volume except for toys and resources?
Not that I've ever looked at the trade volume of Scimitars, but I haven't ever seen one outside of an Alliance video. Basilisks tend to be favored for wormholes where shields matter, but only for PvP or lower class WH sleepers. Never seen a Scimitar used for Logi in Highsec or Lowsec that I can recall; not even for station games, but I don't get out much these days.
Guardians are, or were, used fairly often for Incursions as I recall, with a lot of the successful Incursion runners using armor. From other thread, I gather they still do. Most small gang warfare I've seen in Lowsec, (Pirates et al), are using Amarr or Gallente Armor, or they are using Minmatar which are often armor tanked.
The exceptions being Drakes and Falcons for the most part. That is just what I've seen though and it's hard to make a statement that nobody uses anything else anywhere.
Null of course has massive Drake fleets, Mael Fleets, etc.. but those are Null and I don't expect to see Alliance shopping at the local Wal-Mart. You are quite mistaken, you dont see them because they are on empire alts so they don't get targeted but null sec is not building as much as you'd like to think especailly T2, there's very little T2 production in null sec just due to needing an array of moon goo products and weighing opportuntiy costs.
I think you mean manpower, otherwise that makes little sense. Outsourcing makes sense on manpower mainly. Since building should be fundamentaly easier and cheaper in null, with less barriers of entry.
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Steve Ronuken
Fuzzwork Enterprises
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Posted - 2012.05.14 23:42:00 -
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Anyone and their mother can build in highsec.
No roles required, no pos modules, no outpost upgrades, plenty of free slots.
And 70% of the character population (Not saying accounts. Only people who can give an accurate breakdown of that are CCP)
Oh, and Jita. Might be a little pricier than out in Null, but you can get /everything/ you need.
Low to no barrier to entry. Null requires more thought. FuzzWork Enterprises http://www.fuzzwork.co.uk/ Blueprint calculator, invention chance calculator, isk/m3 Ore chart-á and other 'useful' utilities. |

ModeratedToSilence
Republic Military School Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2012.05.15 00:48:00 -
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Caleb Ayrania wrote:
I think you mean manpower, otherwise that makes little sense. Outsourcing makes sense on manpower mainly. Since building should be fundamentaly easier and cheaper in null, with less barriers of entry.
T2 Building is not easier in 0.0. Those of you who have done medium scale invention will know the difficulty in gaining slots. Those of you who have done production will know you end up importing such a high proportion of the materials that you might as well have dropped corp with the production alt and done it in empire. |
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