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Akita T
Caldari Navy Volunteer Task Force
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Posted - 2009.05.24 16:50:00 -
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Originally by: Tavak
Originally by: Akita T Yeah, "Clear Skies" might be just about average from a "semi-professional" standpoint, but considering it's all amateur and volunteer work for no profit... well, it's pretty damned good, considering the circumstances. The "thumbs up for effort" are more than well-deserved. As for why such an "average" piece of work is so "overhyped" by the ones that liked it ? Well, because, just like EVE itself, there's nothing better of this particular kind out there... yet. Which makes it "the best".
Alright then :) Thanks, yours has been the best reply so far imo. Answers everything I wanted and not a flame in sight. Check out the usual fanboys though elsewhere in the thread, seemingly ready to die for this series. I worry for them.
Well, if you were hungry as hell and I gave you a choice between stale cereal and luke-warm milk on one hand, or absolutely nothing on the other hand (ok, ok, maybe some pocket lint and some empty cardboard boxes), wouldn't you just love the cereal ?
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Blane Xero
Amarr The Firestorm Cartel
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Posted - 2009.05.24 16:50:00 -
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Originally by: Tavak Edited by: Tavak on 24/05/2009 16:48:41
Originally by: Blane Xero If you are just voicing your opinion why not use the official thread for Clear Skies?.
Why create your own thread?.
see above. also, stop trolling, its a bit obvious.
My questions were as valid as yours. ___________________________________________ Haruhiist since December 2008
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Mag's
the united Negative Ten.
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Posted - 2009.05.24 16:51:00 -
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Originally by: Blane Xero
Originally by: Tavak
see above. also, stop trolling, its a bit obvious.
My questions were as valid as yours.
I have to agree.
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Tavak
Minmatar Red Hawks
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Posted - 2009.05.24 16:55:00 -
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Originally by: Blane Xero
Originally by: Tavak Edited by: Tavak on 24/05/2009 16:48:41
Originally by: Blane Xero If you are just voicing your opinion why not use the official thread for Clear Skies?.
Why create your own thread?.
see above. also, stop trolling, its a bit obvious.
My questions were as valid as yours.
But already answered. |
Ralara
Caldari D00M. Triumvirate.
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Posted - 2009.05.24 17:00:00 -
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Originally by: Tavak
Originally by: Blane Xero
Originally by: Tavak Edited by: Tavak on 24/05/2009 16:48:41
Originally by: Blane Xero If you are just voicing your opinion why not use the official thread for Clear Skies?.
Why create your own thread?.
see above. also, stop trolling, its a bit obvious.
My questions were as valid as yours.
But already answered.
Attention *****. --
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Tavak
Minmatar Red Hawks
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Posted - 2009.05.24 17:03:00 -
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Originally by: Ralara
Attention *****.
If I were, then you're more than giving it. |
Ralara
Caldari D00M. Triumvirate.
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Posted - 2009.05.24 17:05:00 -
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Originally by: Tavak
Originally by: Ralara
Attention *****.
If I were, then you're more than giving it.
Look, if you wanted to create a thread to ***** about why Clear Skies 2 isn't to your satisfaction, you've succeeded. If you wanted an open debate on it, you've failed because there's already a very large thread on the first page in which your opinion is openly discussed.
Since you've actually said you didn't read the original thread and you wanted your own thread to discuss it, that leaves me (and others) with the opinion that you're an attention *****.
What was the purpose of the new thread? The purpose, as you've admitted, was because you didn't want to just make a post in the existing thread, you wanted a new thread so that people would read your post and reply to it. Attention *****.
There's nothing to debate here. You wanted people to pay attention to you, to reply to you, to listen to you. You wanted people to pay attention to you.
Attention *****. --
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THE L0CK
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Posted - 2009.05.24 17:11:00 -
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Edited by: THE L0CK on 24/05/2009 17:13:29 While I too liked it for what it was I also had gripes about it. Like the lack of pod pilots. Where were the pods? Sure certain scenes were great like in the beginning because you can call it WIS or something, but don't take out the main backstory item of the game itself. And it was to my understanding that eve ships were supposed to be large. The tempest itself is several times the size of the Eiffel tower but when you zoom in on the bridge in the movie it is actually quite small, although big enough to hold a Caldari shuttle unpackaged in its hold apparently. The voices did seem really bad in the beginning of the movie but it seemed like they cleaned up a bit as the show went on, just at first they sounded muffled or like they were trying to talk through a wall. Other than than I liked most of the fight scenes and the ongoing docking jokes was really funny. And now I sit back and watch the fanboi's tell me to make something better like the hypocrites they are, all acting like they never judged a movie or critiqued a restaurant in their life.
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Tavak
Minmatar Red Hawks
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Posted - 2009.05.24 17:12:00 -
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Originally by: Ralara
Originally by: Tavak
Originally by: Ralara
Attention *****.
If I were, then you're more than giving it.
Look, if you wanted to create a thread to ***** about why Clear Skies 2 isn't to your satisfaction, you've succeeded. If you wanted an open debate on it, you've failed because there's already a very large thread on the first page in which your opinion is openly discussed.
Since you've actually said you didn't read the original thread and you wanted your own thread to discuss it, that leaves me (and others) with the opinion that you're an attention *****.
What was the purpose of the new thread? The purpose, as you've admitted, was because you didn't want to just make a post in the existing thread, you wanted a new thread so that people would read your post and reply to it. Attention *****.
There's nothing to debate here. You wanted people to pay attention to you, to reply to you, to listen to you. You wanted people to pay attention to you.
Attention *****.
What I wanted was a thread where people could point out to me what I may be missing. I got that in page 1. Successful. No debate necessary. So not surprised that part failed, wasnt an intended outcome. As for leaving people with opinions, actually it's just you. Blane Xero is just a GD troll. He trolls on lots of threads. Have a look if you want. He seldom contributes anything of value to a thread. So it's just you, and maybe that other guy who posts after Blane Xero. He doesnt say much, and what he does say tends to be right after Blane Xero. I suppose that guy is an alt of someone else here.
Either way, it doesnt matter. I got the answers I wanted on page 1. No-one else had a problem with the thread. And given your only problem seems to be a deliberate misunderstanding of my intent, I cant understand why you're fuelling it so much given page 2 is entirely devoted to responses to you and the other troll. |
Tavak
Minmatar Red Hawks
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Posted - 2009.05.24 17:14:00 -
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Originally by: THE L0CK While I too liked it for what it was I also had gripes about it. Like the lack of pod pilots. Where were the pods? Sure certain scenes were great like in the beginning because you can call it WIS or something, but don't take out the main backstory item of the game itself. And it was to my understanding that eve ships were supposed to be large. The tempest itself is several times the size of the Eiffel tower but when you zoom in on the bridge in the movie it is actually quite small, although big enough to hold a Caldari shuttle unpackaged in its hold apparently. The voices did seem really bad in the beginning of the movie but it seemed like they cleaned up a bit as the show went on, just at first they sounded muffled or like they were trying to talk through a wall. Other than than I liked most of the fight scenes and thought the ongoing docking jokes was really funny. And now I sit back and watch the fanboi's tell me to make something better like the hypocrites they are, all acting like they never judged a movie or critiqued a restaurant in their life.
Couldnt agree more mate. There is a fanboy in this thread btw, expect your post to be quoted soon lol. |
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Bestofworst
Gallente Double Eagle Enterprises
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Posted - 2009.05.24 17:35:00 -
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Well really, what makes all these other hollywood movies any better? Where they spend all their money getting the most famous guy to say the most famous line so they can line their pockets with cash and say they are the "Hit blockbuster of the summer" and "#1 movie in america" bla bla bla like every other movie.
For what they've done with what they had it is quite amazing. And I have no quarrel with the voice acting, while I thought Sol had a bit dead voice in the first one, after you get used to it, it becomes part of his character and it actually got better in the second one.
I'm not saying "You should like it cause you can't make anything better" but it is actually good and deserves its accolades. ---- <Insert Wit> |
Blane Xero
Amarr The Firestorm Cartel
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Posted - 2009.05.24 17:52:00 -
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Originally by: Tavak Blane Xero is just a GD troll. He trolls on lots of threads. Have a look if you want. He seldom contributes anything of value to a thread.
Christ did i really strike a nerve or something?.
I contribute to alot of threads, just not completely ******ed, defunct, reposted or other such threads wherein the OP could have used an Already existing thread instead of posting his own and calling people with opposing view points or who challenge his own, Trolls.
Also, you posted the answer to my question 2 minutes before i posted it, You had not yet posted it when i initially loaded the page, and decided to ask my own question.
___________________________________________ Haruhiist since December 2008
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Burkus Destounikus
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Posted - 2009.05.24 17:59:00 -
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Look, if you wanted to create a thread to ***** about why Clear Skies 2 isn't to your satisfaction, you've succeeded. If you wanted an open debate on it, you've failed because there's already a very large thread on the first page in which your opinion is openly discussed.
Since you've actually said you didn't read the original thread and you wanted your own thread to discuss it, that leaves me (and others) with the opinion that you're an attention *****.
What was the purpose of the new thread? The purpose, as you've admitted, was because you didn't want to just make a post in the existing thread, you wanted a new thread so that people would read your post and reply to it. Attention *****.
There's nothing to debate here. You wanted people to pay attention to you, to reply to you, to listen to you. You wanted people to pay attention to you.
Attention *****.
You're saying he's an attention ***** for making a thread asking a question he wanted an answer to? Have you never created a thread? Have you never asked a question? He asked a question in a respectful manner, and you come in and ***** at him about it; if anything, that makes you an attention *****. You have a half dozen responses in this thread that all say the exact same thing - move on. He didn't put his question in the main thread b/c he figures it wouldn't be responded to - someone who goes thru the steps to ask a question in such a manner as to get a reasonable response isn't an attention *****.
Just b/c someone disagrees with you doesn't make them an attention *****. However, if all someone does is repeat the same stupid criticism ad nauseum and doesn't contribute their own thoughts, well then, draw your own conclusions on that (attention *****).
To the OP: I thought the voice acting was actually one of the strong parts. Maybe b/c you're English you don't find it funny b/c you hear that kind of humour all the time. I'm Canadian, and I yawn when someone makes Eskimo and back bacon jokes.
But what do I know, I'm obviously just an attention *****.
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Burkus Destounikus
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Posted - 2009.05.24 18:07:00 -
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So, what is an attention ***** anyway? Someone who says whatever they can to get a response from others and make them pay attention to them. Often if they can't get positive attention, they'll gladly accept negative attention, so long as people are paying attention to them, thus they'll try to annoy and strike other peoples nerves:
Originally by: Blane Xero
Christ did i really strike a nerve or something?.
hmmmmmmm.....
They may also put links on internet forum boards to other threads where they were talking as well, just to let everyone know that people in other threads pay attention to them as well.
hmmmmmmm.....
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Blane Xero
Amarr The Firestorm Cartel
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Posted - 2009.05.24 18:13:00 -
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Originally by: Burkus Destounikus So, what is an attention ***** anyway? Someone who says whatever they can to get a response from others and make them pay attention to them. Often if they can't get positive attention, they'll gladly accept negative attention, so long as people are paying attention to them, thus they'll try to annoy and strike other peoples nerves:
Originally by: Blane Xero
Christ did i really strike a nerve or something?.
hmmmmmmm.....
They may also put links on internet forum boards to other threads where they were talking as well, just to let everyone know that people in other threads pay attention to them as well.
hmmmmmmm.....
Difference is I never denied being an attention ***** ___________________________________________ Haruhiist since December 2008
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Trathen
Minmatar
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Posted - 2009.05.24 18:41:00 -
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Still waiting for the (Modern) English translation on this one. I couldn't finish it. My only real gripe is that I wished the author went through some effort to modify the stock faces from Half Life 2. I see the security guard from the beginning of Half Life instead of an original character. Just a hair color change or something. _ |
UMEE
Gunship Diplomacy
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Posted - 2009.05.24 19:01:00 -
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Originally by: Ralara
Well, to put it succinctly, I think I speak for a lot of people when I say why don't you go and make your own ****ing video? No? Then **** off.
hes asking why is it getting so much hype. hes not saying it sucks. stop foaming at the mouth. i've seen better machinimas get less hype. personally, i didnt like either of the clear skies. they were so un-funny that i couldnt even get through the first third. just my opinion, and i agree with op.
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ReaperOfSly
Gallente Zetsubou Corp
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Posted - 2009.05.24 19:59:00 -
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I don't see what's so bad about the voice acting. ____________________
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Zanon Xiu
SniggWaffe
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Posted - 2009.05.24 21:21:00 -
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Originally by: Tavak Not a troll thread, honest question.
I see loads of threads giving their adoration and support for this clear skies thing. But why? What's so great about it?
Cinematics - agree they're really good. Whole thing looks good, nicely shot, can't complaing here.
General storyline - great, can't complain here either. Fairly interesting, some funny EVE related puns.
Here's where it falls down though.
Voice acting - absolutly awful! I would go as far as to say below amateur. Voices are flat, no personality. I get what's trying to be done here, at least I think I do, maybe something like Holly from Red Dwarf. But it really really fails bad.
Humour - I find it very clichT. It's that overdone "say evreything in a matter of fact manner" (Will from the Inbetweeners, Holly from Red Dwarf, Brian from Family Guy). It's not original any more, it's already been done. And what's worse is that it's not even carried out very well, let down by the voice acting.
Now I understand the internet isn't exactly a tough crowd. Forums postings, blog comments etc sure, all open to flames. But when someone makes the effort to put a show together, film it and put it out there, people are generally supportive. Hence why we have so much machinima available from so many games etc. So I can understand why people might give it a thumbs up for effort, but what I really dont understand is why it gets all the massive attention and endless posts each more holier than the last in its support for this series, for a series that on the face of it, appears to be nothing more than average at best.
Sure I'm expecting some flames here from rabid fanboys, but I'm open to missing something obvious here. I want to like it, I've tried. I just dont, so if someone can show me where I'm going wrong, it'd give me the chance maybe to view it the way everyone else seems to be able to.
The envy is big in this one. what makes it so big? simple. players like you and me did it. they were no pros ect.
I just see you crying with envy that the maker of the video got a protus for his effort for entertaining the eve players.
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THE L0CK
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Posted - 2009.05.24 21:28:00 -
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Originally by: Zanon Xiu
The envy is big in this one. what makes it so big? simple. players like you and me did it. they were no pros ect.
I just see you crying with envy that the maker of the video got a protus for his effort for entertaining the eve players.
L****ingOL. Yes if you disagree with certain aspects of something its entirely envy. Bet yo momma taught you that one in sunday school.
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5pinDizzy
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Posted - 2009.05.24 21:41:00 -
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Edited by: 5pinDizzy on 24/05/2009 21:43:54
My opinion on Clear Skies 2.
The Good
The taste in music
Very Well Written, albiet cliche but people have to draw their inspiration from somewhere. Regardless,
Very good editing and camerawork, very attentive and convincing in making transitional changes between the eve world and the half life 2 world.
The Room for Improvement
I've seen better voice acting in just about every half baked youtube video out there, letalone saying I could do better myself.
Not swapping out the stock Half life 2 models out in Clear Skies 1 in a way tied their hands to keep them in Clear skies 2.
Using almost exclusively stock textures and props.
Full use of lipsync but little use of face posing to add already to the wooden voice acting.
Some half life 2 maps were pretty unconvincingly bare lacking in detail, the one that sticks in my head was the half life 2 map representing planet side.
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Louis deGuerre
Gallente Azure Horizon Federate Militia
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Posted - 2009.05.24 22:57:00 -
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Blasphemy !
Make something as cool as clear skies and your opinion might be worth something. --- Sol: A microwarp drive? In a battleship? Are you insane? They arenĘt built for this! Clear Skies - The Movie |
Propagandas
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Posted - 2009.05.24 23:07:00 -
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let me guess Simpsons did it lol
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Ryhss
Caldari P'n'L Industries
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Posted - 2009.05.24 23:09:00 -
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I'm a writer/director/producer. And CS 1+2 were simply top notch. Sure, the voices could have been better, but they were not bad really. Sure they weren't pro, but they never claimed to be! If ever I got the chance, I'd grab CS up and make it a weekly program! (programme for you brits :) )
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Blane Xero
Amarr The Firestorm Cartel
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Posted - 2009.05.24 23:09:00 -
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southpark did it too. ___________________________________________ Haruhiist since December 2008
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Bestofworst
Gallente Double Eagle Enterprises
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Posted - 2009.05.24 23:13:00 -
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Originally by: Blane Xero southpark did it too.
Lol ---- <Insert Wit> |
Frug
Repo Industries
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Posted - 2009.05.24 23:21:00 -
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I kinda liked the voice acting. - - - - - - - - - Do not use dotted lines - - - - - - If you think I'm awesome say BOOO BOOO!! - Ductoris Neat look what I found - Kreul Whisper/PrismX 4 emperor |
1nsan1ty
Darkwave Technologies Doctrine.
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Posted - 2009.05.25 00:10:00 -
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I was looking forward to a nice and cool topic (i kinda liked how it started). But then you kids just messed it all up :(.
Proceed.
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MotherMoon
Huang Yinglong
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Posted - 2009.05.25 00:24:00 -
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Originally by: Nyphur Edited by: Nyphur on 24/05/2009 15:49:31
So you don't like british voices and british humour. Is that it?
bingo
Like when people don't get Monty Python because it's boring and has bad acting.
sigh.
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Zeba
Minmatar Honourable East India Trading Company
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Posted - 2009.05.25 00:52:00 -
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Originally by: Tavak Not a troll thread, honest question.
I see loads of threads giving their adoration and support for this clear skies thing. But why? What's so great about it?
Originally by: Tavak
Originally by: Ralara
Aww, I got you angry and made you type all that out
You wanted a post where people would reply to your post. Because you want attention.
Your opinion on the matter has been said a hundred times in the original thread. But you didn't want to just add your own voice to it, you wanted your own special thread, didn't you?
Attention seeker.
No, I wanted an answer to a question. This is ridiculous. As for the original thread, I haven't read it.
Well instead of making a whole new thread to garner attention for yourself why don't you ummm well.. you know.. read the original thread and see for yourself? I have read the complete original thread and tbh I think there are three negative posts in the whole thing with two of them probably being just a silly attempt at some feckless humor. So you don't like the clear skies movies and are feeling left out of the fun? Well thats what you get for being an outsider looking in.
As far as why did I enjoy it? It was entertaining.
Simple as that and no need to go all professional movie critic on us. Thinking about it thats pretty much what your doing in this thread. Taking a hardcore critics view of a beloved amature made series. You are like one of those angsty rotten tomato poasters who bash blockbuster movies everyone and his dog enjoyed cause of a slightly flubbed line or some other almost completely invisible flaw that only you see because you are not watching it to enjoy it but are watching it to dissect it.
Originally by: Fifinella As to trying to scare me with 0.0/lowsec, well,..... I've been there, and wasn't very scared at all. Only a little.
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