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Queen Ba'Ku
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Posted - 2009.05.24 21:14:00 -
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Serious topic..if you gonna troll please dont...
Question : Is it time CCP created a new instance of eve universe (like Wow etc)
Reason : Eve has now become saturated pretty much, 0.0 is now totally controlled by the major powerblocs, massive napfests etc, resources drained etc. Its now increasingly difficult for corps/alliances to recruit just by the sheer number of new corps/alliances, almost impossible for new alliances, or smaller alliances to gain sov space without being crushed by the major napfests/powerblocs. Is it time to now give all the up and coming newer players/alliances etc the same chance 4/5/6 year old players had? To be able to build a new universe from scratch, the pave new horizons, alliances etc without out the constraints of the current situation? Me i think so...be interesting to know what people think...of course keep the current instance also lol, i dont mean remove the current one, just create a new separate one.
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Posted - 2009.05.24 21:20:00 -
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Originally by: Abrazzar No, they should double the hardware for the current server instead.
With respect that doesnt solve the problem mate :)
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Posted - 2009.05.24 21:28:00 -
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Originally by: Camaria Wiser people than me pointed out why the OPs suggestion would not do any good
What would happen, would be that the current powerblocks, due to numbers, organisation, and skill at playing eve, would almost instantly gain even tighter control over the new instance, than they currently have over this instance of eve
Nope...they SHOULD NOT be able transfer over, new instance new accounts/chars
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Posted - 2009.05.24 21:30:00 -
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Originally by: Irida Mershkov
Originally by: Queen Ba'Ku
Originally by: Abrazzar No, they should double the hardware for the current server instead.
With respect that doesnt solve the problem mate :)
Your solution would only delay the problem repeating itself though.
Yes after about 5 more years, and then you would have to create a new instance..I mean how many does wow have? tons of em..tis is so that servers dont become over populated/laggy etc and ppl get to experience all parts of the game..
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Posted - 2009.05.24 21:32:00 -
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Originally by: Armoured C
Originally by: Queen Ba'Ku Serious topic..if you gonna troll please dont...
(like Wow etc)
you cant add those together in this forum and expect to walk out of here alive ?
no we should bloody instance the server
eve is eve it is that and nothing else
stop trying to adpot it with other game instruments.
please go pod yourself
so whats your reason behind that rather childish commment?
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Posted - 2009.05.24 21:46:00 -
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No ..you wouldnt lose it mate..you misunderstood...you would create a NEW SEPARATE instance and keep the others...I dont think your getting my point... There are too many major powerblocs that control eve, making it bigger will just make these powerblocs bigger becuase they will just take the new regions that get created..people should have a fair chance to succeed in eve and they havent.. Ive played this game for years and seen how its been shaped so it isnt talking from a noob perspective...
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Posted - 2009.05.24 22:18:00 -
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Originally by: Fujiko MaXjolt
Originally by: Queen Ba'Ku
No ..you wouldnt lose it mate..you misunderstood...you would create a NEW SEPARATE instance and keep the others...I dont think your getting my point... There are too many major powerblocs that control eve, making it bigger will just make these powerblocs bigger becuase they will just take the new regions that get created..people should have a fair chance to succeed in eve and they havent.. Ive played this game for years and seen how its been shaped so it isnt talking from a noob perspective...
I think that it is you that just aren't getting the point of what seems to be every other eve player... Eve is eve because it's ONE SERVER as much as because it's the cut-throat world that it is. Sharding eve would kill the game, pure and simple. And it's never too late to upset the balance and topple an empire - someone already mentioned the fall of BoB, there are plenty of other examples. Personally, I'm looking
forward to seeing what's happening next in that arena
We are entitled to our opinions, this is the reason for the post.. I think there is a major misbalance in eve at the mo...the reason why bob happened to lose space becuase of a rogue director thats all..But if oyu happy being pets then hey fair enough..personally i think its killing eve buts that my opinion.
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Posted - 2009.05.24 22:27:00 -
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Originally by: Haakelen Is it this time of the week already?
No.
That was useful...thanks for contributing..shall i post in russian so you understand?
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Posted - 2009.05.24 22:29:00 -
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Originally by: Mistress Selena Queen, you obviously don't understand what eve is. It is unique because it is the only MMO that has only one shard (ignoring China but that's different). This game is not WoW, so please stop using it as reference.
CCP will not be making a new shard for Eve so stop trying to explain to us why it is a good idea, which it isn't. These threads pop up all the time and you're just like them, Eve will not be moving away from a single shard and nothing you say will change that fact.
OK STOP THE F88CKING STUPID WOW CRAP RIGHT NOW - NOTHING ****ES ME OFF MORE... Its my opinion dont like it GTFO
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Posted - 2009.05.24 22:37:00 -
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lol it would be nice to know all the mains against this..becuase i bet everyone posted here against is either sov holding major alliance or a pet or something...
seriously though dont just say no..give your reasons..its a discussion stop being so defensive
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Posted - 2009.05.24 22:38:00 -
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Edited by: Queen Ba''Ku on 24/05/2009 22:38:03
Originally by: Marcus Druallis
Originally by: Queen Ba'Ku
people should have a fair chance to succeed in eve and they havent..
I found your problem
Hey mr powerbloc/ultimate napfesters..:)
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Posted - 2009.05.24 22:41:00 -
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Originally by: Marcus Druallis
Originally by: Queen Ba'Ku
OK STOP THE F88CKING STUPID WOW CRAP RIGHT NOW - NOTHING ****ES ME OFF MORE... Its my opinion dont like it GTFO
Haha, in the OP he said he was "interested" in seeing others opinions on the matter... hahaha
Yes opinions dude..not accusations and rudeness..
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Posted - 2009.05.24 22:42:00 -
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Originally by: Propagandas First of all queen i would advice you go back to your WoW server... Secondly have you ever thought that the eve universe looks so alive cause its just one server and thirdly we shouldnt ask for another server but a solution to the sov system to allow people with small numbers be able to claim sov... And stop nerfing small ships and pushing forward the whole blob idead
Now Queen logg back in WoW and play your nice Night humanly blood elf female shamano paladin :)
Prop
damn how did u know..
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Posted - 2009.05.24 22:46:00 -
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Originally by: Marcus Druallis
Originally by: Queen Ba'Ku
Originally by: Marcus Druallis
Originally by: Queen Ba'Ku
OK STOP THE F88CKING STUPID WOW CRAP RIGHT NOW - NOTHING ****ES ME OFF MORE... Its my opinion dont like it GTFO
Haha, in the OP he said he was "interested" in seeing others opinions on the matter... hahaha
Yes opinions dude..not accusations and rudeness..
His response was actually very professional and in no way attacked you. All he said is that EVE should not be compared to a game such as WOW, as they are completely different at the core. WOW is mainly a quest driven rollercoaster, and as such does not need to maintain one server in order to focus on player to player interaction. In WOW, you play against the server. In EVE you play against other players.
Well not entirely true m8, Wow does have alot of pvp...battlegrounds, standard pvp also..the missions are just like eve missioning.. Can we stop comparing to wow..i simply said wow cos of the multiple servers, sorry i should of said lord of the rings or the countless other mmos that use multiple instances. but eve is correct every other mmo is wrong..isnt it? I was merely thinking of the setup not the game..
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Posted - 2009.05.24 22:48:00 -
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Originally by: Bestofworst We should make a whole new planet and just dump people onto it, make an instanced "Earth" and let humans reinvent everything from scratch, paving the way new horizons and such.
Translation: Bad idea.
Note: this is a game of patience as well as action, it took awhile but BoB was destroyed and space became available for capture. Maybe this again will happen sometime in the future.
bob was NOT destroyed dude..they are still alive and kicking...they lost space purely by a roque director..
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Posted - 2009.05.24 22:49:00 -
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Edited by: Queen Ba''Ku on 24/05/2009 22:50:20
Originally by: Mistress Selena Edited by: Mistress Selena on 24/05/2009 22:48:38 Well whatever, the fact still remains that eve will not be changed from a single shard mmo to a multiple, despite what you say or any of the other threads that are made every day/week/month/year
thats all you need to say...and if there are soo many threads every week etc..seems theres alot of others also concerned doesnt it?
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Posted - 2009.05.24 22:55:00 -
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Edited by: Queen Ba''Ku on 24/05/2009 22:56:28
Originally by: Marcus Druallis
Originally by: Queen Ba'Ku
Originally by: Bestofworst We should make a whole new planet and just dump people onto it, make an instanced "Earth" and let humans reinvent everything from scratch, paving the way new horizons and such.
Translation: Bad idea.
Note: this is a game of patience as well as action, it took awhile but BoB was destroyed and space became available for capture. Maybe this again will happen sometime in the future.
bob was NOT destroyed dude..they are still alive and kicking...they lost space purely by a roque director..
Wat about the time that they only held one system. No director interference there. And surely you will explain that they came back and took everything back. Well then isn't that an example of how an alliance can begin to accumulate sov for themselves.
Yes but that was right at the start m8 thats what im saying there were no powerblocs etc, i remember when there was like 8000 max online at once..even less sometimes..i mean bob owned 3/4 of eve then..there was like bob and ascn that was it...
tell me honestly is it possible for a new alliance to gain space now? without being a NC pet or Goon Pet etc or renter? seriously? Its not m8.
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Posted - 2009.05.24 22:59:00 -
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Yeah eve has grown and grown with more players...competition had to come..however all im saying i think weve come now to a stalemate point a saturation point..if you feel we havent then fine. i jus tthink we have...
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Posted - 2009.05.24 23:00:00 -
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Originally by: Marcus Druallis
Originally by: Queen Ba'Ku
Yes but that was right at the start m8 thats what im saying there were no powerblocs etc, i remember when there was like 8000 max online at once..even less sometimes..i mean bob owned 3/4 of eve then..there was like bob and ascn that was it...
tell me honestly is it possible for a new alliance to gain space now? without being a NC pet or Goon Pet etc or renter? seriously? Its not m8.
That's not true at all. It was like a year ago. And yes, there were powerblocs.
A year ago when bob only had one system?
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Posted - 2009.05.24 23:01:00 -
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Originally by: Bestofworst
Originally by: Queen Ba'Ku
Yeah eve has grown and grown with more players...competition had to come..however all im saying i think weve come now to a stalemate point a saturation point..if you feel we havent then fine. i jus tthink we have...
Please, if you are gonna try to argue a point, back it up.
read the first post dude :)
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Posted - 2009.05.24 23:02:00 -
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Edited by: Queen Ba''Ku on 24/05/2009 23:03:12
Originally by: Marcus Druallis
Originally by: Queen Ba'Ku
Originally by: Marcus Druallis
Originally by: Queen Ba'Ku
Yes but that was right at the start m8 thats what im saying there were no powerblocs etc, i remember when there was like 8000 max online at once..even less sometimes..i mean bob owned 3/4 of eve then..there was like bob and ascn that was it...
tell me honestly is it possible for a new alliance to gain space now? without being a NC pet or Goon Pet etc or renter? seriously? Its not m8.
That's not true at all. It was like a year ago. And yes, there were powerblocs.
A year ago when bob only had one system?
Yup.
Yeah but they already had a massive playerbase, massive fleets, tons of ISK, titans etc..and a massive napfest..not really a fair thing to say..hardly started form scratch
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Posted - 2009.05.25 13:57:00 -
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Originally by: Xtreem best thing about eve is the single shard, things would have to get VERY VERY bad for me to ever think a second shard is needed
Well done the first person to admit it, the main reason ppl dont wont multiple is personal issues...I was waiting for that...
Ok lets leave it as is then, however Eve will never expand. With all the advertising, etc etc the max online count hasnt gone up much..about 10000 in the last couple of years its been stagnant..and CCP have advertised enormously more....so CCP definately want it to expand..
And again is not about Wow the game its the infrastructure..and too see Eve will die is crazy, ok lets look at the Wow game then..its a massive...5million+ players...eve 300,000 ermmm see the maths? So stop calling Wow fail..its the most successful, most used MMO in history and continues to be..Stop being so snobbish etc, those 5 million people prob laughing at you and saying they just dont learn do they...
Lets see how eve is in the next few years..id like to know also how many accounts are closed and how many are open ratio..I bet its a high amount closed...
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Posted - 2009.05.25 14:01:00 -
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Edited by: Queen Ba''Ku on 25/05/2009 14:06:17 Edited by: Queen Ba''Ku on 25/05/2009 14:00:49
Originally by: Infinity Ziona Edited by: Infinity Ziona on 25/05/2009 10:57:28 Enough with the bull**** predictions (You don't know). Enough with the EVE is EVE because its single server (Its not single server anymore). Enough with the "NO" replies (unless your a CCP employee you have no authority)
You only have an opinion like me. So how about state what it is and why you think it.
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I think EVE would benefit from another server or many servers because:
1. It could attract people who are daunted by joining a 6 year old server. 2. It could revitalise or reattract those people who are bored with the current server (myself included). 3. It could offer an opportunity for a completely new rule set to the original server. No sov, no capitals, no pos, one character per account.... 4. It would offer variety.
Theres a lot of other benefits to the IDEA of a new server and yes probably some negatives too but simply screaming NO, NOOB or posting unsubstantiated bullcrap hardly qualifies as a good reason to not think about having one.
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Also remember is NOT A COMPLETE NEW GET RID OF THE OLD...its just ANOTHER instance.. I dont think you will lose players as much as ppl thing from TQ, because you shouldn tbe able to transfer chars...Yes people have knowledge but they will start from the same position everyone else does, with a noob char, with a noob ship and no isk... I cant see why people are soo against it..its not going to affect your gaming experience at all..if you want to stay on TQ then fine...
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Posted - 2009.05.25 14:07:00 -
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Originally by: Southern Suzy WE HAVE MULTIPLE SERVERS! GO PLAY ON SISI IF YOU DONT LIKE THIS MUCH PPL
Yet another stupid thread spotted! Read some of the stuff on the site about the history of eve and the way CCP wants this game to be and u'll know there wont be multiple servers
Thats why eve will die horribly.....have fun....adapt or die...
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Posted - 2009.05.25 14:14:00 -
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Originally by: Camaria
Originally by: Queen Ba'Ku
Originally by: Camaria Wiser people than me pointed out why the OPs suggestion would not do any good
What would happen, would be that the current powerblocks, due to numbers, organisation, and skill at playing eve, would almost instantly gain even tighter control over the new instance, than they currently have over this instance of eve
Nope...they SHOULD NOT be able transfer over, new instance new accounts/chars
Where did I say they could transfer over? They'll just make new alts/accounts in the new instance
yeah but not everyone would create a new account would they lol..and everyone wouls start from complete scratch, nooob char, noob skills, no isk etc etc...so they wouldnt havea massive advantage at all..by time they train up, every other person would of gained knowledge also...so end up being pretty even...
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Posted - 2009.05.25 14:23:00 -
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Edited by: Queen Ba''Ku on 25/05/2009 14:26:20 Edited by: Queen Ba''Ku on 25/05/2009 14:26:05 Edited by: Queen Ba''Ku on 25/05/2009 14:23:35
Originally by: Washell Olivaw
Originally by: Queen Ba'Ku Ok lets leave it as is then, however Eve will never expand. With all the advertising, etc etc the max online count hasnt gone up much..about 10000 in the last couple of years its been stagnant..and CCP have advertised enormously more....so CCP definately want it to expand..
20% growth in the last 6 months is not stagnant. 100% growth in the last 30 months is not stagnant.
After the last 3 major upgrades and major advertising ccp have done, on steam, mags everywhere..there hasnt been a significant jump in the amount of actual online players at all....thats a fact.. its stayed pretty much the same..so what does that say?
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Posted - 2009.05.25 14:27:00 -
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Edited by: Queen Ba''Ku on 25/05/2009 14:27:43 just a comparison here
WOW : More than 11.5 million monthly subscribers release 2004 (so 5 years) EVE : 300,000 subscribers released around same time
ENOUGH SAID....Because Blizzard know what they are doing...and adapted.Seriously get your heads out of the sand.
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Posted - 2009.05.25 14:35:00 -
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Edited by: Queen Ba''Ku on 25/05/2009 14:35:11
Originally by: Estel Arador
Originally by: Queen Ba'Ku Edited by: Queen Ba''Ku on 25/05/2009 14:27:43 just a comparison here
WOW : More than 11.5 million monthly subscribers release 2004 (so 5 years) EVE : 300,000 subscribers released around same time
ENOUGH SAID....Because Blizzard know what they are doing...and adapted.Seriously get your heads out of the sand.
You know how bad EVE is doing? Apart from WOW, it's the only MMORPG from that era which is still growing.
At snails pace...awesome.
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Posted - 2009.05.25 14:42:00 -
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Originally by: Estel Arador
Originally by: Queen Ba'Ku At snails pace...awesome.
You claimed EVE wasn't growing but were proven wrong. You claimed EVE wasn't doing too well but were proven wrong.
Is there anything else you'd like to claim or will you concede that your claims and indeed this entire thread are the product of your ignorance?
its not doing well, how is it doing well? If i spent all the time advertising etc etc and only got 250,000 users over 5 years i would be dissapointed, i never said it wasnt growing, just not very much, get your facts right before the flame...
and 11.5 million is a massive difference to 250-300,000 massive...so whos doing it wrong? who? cos its certainly not blizzard..
Its obvious that eve is just full of pompus head in sand people, who just wont adapt or listen to anything..so bookmark this page cos when eve is still nothing in 5 years ill bump the thread and say i told you so..over and out nothing more to say on this subject.
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Posted - 2009.05.25 14:44:00 -
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Originally by: nahtoh
Originally by: Queen Ba'Ku Edited by: Queen Ba''Ku on 25/05/2009 14:27:43 just a comparison here
WOW : More than 11.5 million monthly subscribers release 2004 (so 5 years) EVE : 300,000 subscribers released around same time
ENOUGH SAID....Because Blizzard know what they are doing...and adapted.Seriously get your heads out of the sand.
Its not wow, its not supposed to be wow. So sod off bsack to wow or just FOAD...
Its a Niche single server game...Don't like that part of it? don't play it. Its that fecking simple...now WoW is not my type of game...I am not on teh wow forums whinning at blizzaed to change that game to make more my taste.
hit a nerve there did? lol typical go back to wow...awww diddums...baby want to a hankie...boohoo....i dont play wow actually... and now blizzard have listen and changed the game hence 11.5million users...i think your a little outnumbered....
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Posted - 2009.05.25 14:46:00 -
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Originally by: Space Wanderer
Sorry everybody, but the OP deserves a standing ovation.
VERY VERY GOOD troll, it sucked in so many people and it was very believable until some of the last messages.
9/10.
thats an amazing post and contribution there many thanks..your parent must be proud of you...
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Posted - 2009.05.25 14:50:00 -
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Originally by: Estel Arador
Originally by: Queen Ba'Ku its not doing well, how is it doing well?
It's doing well because it's doing better than all other MMORPGs, with the exception of WOW. No MMORPG has maintained the growth as long as EVE has, in fact most have a huge spike at first and then drop slowly. EVE is unique in that regard.
Originally by: Queen Ba'Ku and 11.5 million is a massive difference to 250-300,000 massive...so whos doing it wrong? who? cos its certainly not blizzard..
Blizzard is doing fine, but they're building on an established series and have quite a good brand. Also if you do your research you might find they do a tad more in advertising and marketing than EVE
Originally by: Queen Ba'Ku Its obvious that eve is just full of pompus head in sand people, who just wont adapt or listen to anything..
It seems to me the other MMORPGs should adapt to EVEs concept, because they're losing subscriptions while EVE is gaining them
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Posted - 2009.05.25 14:51:00 -
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Originally by: Xen Mind Ohhh gawddd not this **** again
okay okay listen up CCP have stated several times that they would rather close the company than sharding it
This was exactly what killed SWG ........... and any other fail game, can anybody say War or AOC ?
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Originally by: Lumy
Originally by: Queen Ba'Ku
a bet they are losing just as many also...be nice to see those figures.
You fail at math. Number of active subscriptions is constantly rising. That means they have to get more subscriptions then they are losing.
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Posted - 2009.05.25 15:03:00 -
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Originally by: Lumy
Originally by: Queen Ba'Ku
Originally by: Lumy
Originally by: Queen Ba'Ku
a bet they are losing just as many also...be nice to see those figures.
You fail at math. Number of active subscriptions is constantly rising. That means they have to get more subscriptions then they are losing.
not really i bet there is a damn lot unsubbing as well..
Ya rly. I bet there are even more people unsubbing from WoW. Apparently WoW is even greater fail.
i think we have already proved its not....11.5 million users in the same time of eves 250,000 hmmmm...again enough said on that before you look really silly....
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Posted - 2009.05.25 15:09:00 -
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Originally by: Washell Olivaw
Originally by: Queen Ba'Ku eves 250,000
+50k, the 20% of the last 6 months. So 300,000. Which makes it take the 2nd place in western MMO demographics in the $10-$15 category. Everything other than WoW has less subscribers and is falling. Unlike EVE, which is growing.
i agree..but very very very very slowly.....so it 5 years time it will have maybe 500,000 subs and 70,000 people online... Guy seriously i care about this game as much as you do...ive played for a long time..i dont want to see it die either, but you have to adapt.. |
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Originally by: Malcanis Edited by: Malcanis on 25/05/2009 15:15:25
Originally by: Queen Ba'Ku
Originally by: Washell Olivaw
Originally by: Queen Ba'Ku eves 250,000
+50k, the 20% of the last 6 months. So 300,000. Which makes it take the 2nd place in western MMO demographics in the $10-$15 category. Everything other than WoW has less subscribers and is falling. Unlike EVE, which is growing.
i agree..but very very very very slowly.....so it 5 years time it will have maybe 500,000 subs and 70,000 people online... Guy seriously i care about this game as much as you do...ive played for a long time..i dont want to see it die either, but you have to adapt..
So you argument being that because EvE is more successful than every sharded game except one, it must shard or die?
Hahaha... no seriously, we're quite well aware that you're just not up to the challenge of competing on the same turf as everyone else - in your own opinion.
shard or die? not die as such perhaps just not really go anywhere, the new subs will unsub just as quick, that im sure is not ccp business plan..you get new people for them to stay, not go after their trial.. not true as been involved in many wars/space taking etc..but thats your opinion your entitled to it... |
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Posted - 2009.05.25 15:20:00 -
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Originally by: Lumy
Originally by: Queen Ba'Ku
i agree..but very very very very slowly.....so it 5 years time it will have maybe 500,000 subs and 70,000 people online... Guy seriously i care about this game as much as you do...ive played for a long time..i dont want to see it die either, but you have to adapt..
That is really nice you care. But understand this: WoW is dominating market of sharded fantasy MMOs. Every single MMO that tried to be like WoW failed (or is failing) miserably. So what you call "to adapt" majority of playerbase and devs calls "to step wrong direction".
they failed cos they werent very good games..thats why, nothing to do with the infrastructure... |
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Posted - 2009.05.25 15:24:00 -
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your welcome to your opinions guys after all this was a discussion...we shall see what happens in a few years...i guess.. |
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Posted - 2009.05.25 15:35:00 -
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Originally by: Malcanis
Originally by: Queen Ba'Ku
shard or die? not die as such perhaps just not really go anywhere, the new subs will unsub just as quick, that im sure is not ccp business plan..you get new people for them to stay, not go after their trial.. not true as been involved in many wars/space taking etc..but thats your opinion your entitled to it...
So, having seen 6 years of continuous growth, now being single-sharded will make eve stop growing?
Got any evidence at all?
Oh cmon dude, eve is saturated now..powerblocs, napfests show me your blue list...i bet its huge (NC Pets are we). Be nice to see Initiative survive without it
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Posted - 2009.05.25 15:36:00 -
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Originally by: Lumy
Originally by: Queen Ba'Ku
Originally by: Lumy
That is really nice you care. But understand this: WoW is dominating market of sharded fantasy MMOs. Every single MMO that tried to be like WoW failed (or is failing) miserably. So what you call "to adapt" majority of playerbase and devs calls "to step wrong direction".
they failed cos they werent very good games..thats why, nothing to do with the infrastructure...
They failed because neither their gameplay nor infrastructure was better than WoW. Infrastructure of EVE is pretty much it's selling point and probably the only advantage in this world of generic sharded (and not so massively) MMOs. I don't think EVE could compete with WoW as 5k people shard.
Infrastructure its selling point? its terrible...what you think people have been complaining about for years...
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Queen Ba'Ku
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Posted - 2009.05.25 15:41:00 -
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Originally by: Malcanis
Originally by: Queen Ba'Ku
Originally by: Malcanis
Originally by: Queen Ba'Ku
shard or die? not die as such perhaps just not really go anywhere, the new subs will unsub just as quick, that im sure is not ccp business plan..you get new people for them to stay, not go after their trial.. not true as been involved in many wars/space taking etc..but thats your opinion your entitled to it...
So, having seen 6 years of continuous growth, now being single-sharded will make eve stop growing?
Got any evidence at all?
Oh cmon dude, eve is saturated now..powerblocs, napfests show me your blue list...i bet its huge (NC Pets are we). Be nice to see Initiative survive without it
Ooooh, well, I can see you know so much about INIT., I hardly dare speak.
Wish I could say the same about your corp, whoever they are.
I know enough...no blue list then?
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Queen Ba'Ku
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Posted - 2009.05.26 20:48:00 -
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Originally by: Wacktopia I actually hate you for posting this thread. Real, honest hate.
Goes against one of the main plus points for playing EVE. I actually cannot beleive this post has 8 pages of replies.
GTFO NOW!
you need to get help for that seriously - see a doctor - take anger management - really thats such a sad comment grow up...if you cant contribute constructively f*ck off...simple as...that goes for everyone else...its a discussion, if you read my initial post it says 'Is it time for a new eve instance?' yeah see that question mark at the end..its called a question..i stated my reasons and then the topic was open.
Waht i dont expect is a bunch of whining little children (and no adult would post half the crap that people have_ who cant hold a adult conversation.. Dont touch eve dont do this, dont do that just like your stamping your feet like teenagers (think of Kevin the teenager)...either contribute politely or dont contribute at all...
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Queen Ba'Ku
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Posted - 2009.05.26 21:19:00 -
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Edited by: Queen Ba''Ku on 26/05/2009 21:20:15 well if your happy with 1) Be pets/renters of either NC, Goons or Bob? Cos if you want to break into sov holding 0.0 you will have to be. Otherwise youll be crushed. 2) There are soooo many corps and alliances now that well recruitment is difficult, so what you gonna do? 3)Be happy that if ccp did add more space then the only people that will get it is the big powerlocs?
then fair enough - me however am not, i want to succeed in this game too...but not be having to kiss ass..to alliances that had a better chance to creating what they have... Yes it was hard work not saying that..but they had like 2000 players online lol, not 50000 like now.. so HOW do new people get on...the powerblocs are sooo established they cant..(im not new just thinking of the strategic plan of eve)
but if your happy how eve is then hey thats great, just cos im not doesnt mean im wrong either or anyone else who agrees with me...
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Queen Ba'Ku
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Posted - 2009.05.26 22:07:00 -
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Originally by: Malcanis
Originally by: Queen Ba'Ku Edited by: Queen Ba''Ku on 26/05/2009 21:20:15 well if your happy with 1) Be pets/renters of either NC, Goons or Bob? Cos if you want to break into sov holding 0.0 you will have to be. Otherwise youll be crushed.
Provably false.
Ok would Initiative be prepared to test this theory? You guys hold sov...so reset all your blues & NC and lets see what happens.. If you do this and you survive with your space then i promise I will quit eve..seriously
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