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XenoPshycoPath
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Posted - 2009.05.25 20:21:00 -
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Hi all I have seen many or some caracal fittings but havnt find any descent passive and/or active tank fitt.. I have mixtured with named modules (cant be TII due to skills) and with no skills on EFT fitt prog. But im not happy with it.. dont know how to do it :p My fitting I wonna have is 5x standard launchers due to frigs and cruisers iff it works with standard or heavys needed ? And my passive fitting EFT says best off like 8k shield hp with 70 passive tank. plz show me a fitting that might be better and any hints would be nice. Thnx in advance!
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Rip Striker
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Posted - 2009.05.25 20:35:00 -
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This subject was discussed in depth a week ago. Here's the link.
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Stuart Price
Caldari The Black Rabbits The Gurlstas Associates
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Posted - 2009.05.25 23:21:00 -
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That thread - full of arguing about a mission fit.
There are two ways to fit a Caracal. AML Anti-frig or HML Sniper. Here they are:
[Caracal - AML Anti-Frig]
HIGHS: 5 x Assault Missile Launcher
MEDS: 1 x 10mn Microwarp Drive 1 x Warp Disruptor 1 x Stasis Web 2 x Large Shield Extender
LOWS: 1 x Power Diagnostic 1 x Ballistic Control
Upgrade to named/t2 as you can afford or have the skills. With a full t1 fit or implants, you can replace the PDS with a second damage mod. Shreds frigates in seconds, can take on a surprising amount of larger targets as well as it happens.
As for HML sniping, I like something like this:
[Caracal - HML Sniper *******]
HIGHS: 5 x Heavy Missile Launcher
MEDS: 1 x 10mn Microwarp Drive 1 x Warp Disruptor (just in case) 1 x Sensor Booster (Range) 2 x Remote Sensor Dampener (Range)
LOWS: 1 x Ballistic Control 1 x Overdrive Injector
Again, upgrade where you can/want. Get out to range, damp the target and spam missiles into it. Let other do the tackling and try not to get caught since you'll go down like Paris Hilton's underwear.
I prefer the first fit for a variety of reasons, but used either way you get a ship that fills a useful role and is cheap as hell.
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Atreus Tac
Blood Covenant Pandemic Legion
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Posted - 2009.05.25 23:27:00 -
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use the AML fit, sit at a low sec belt, wait for frigs to engage thinking your easy then BAM __________________________________________________________
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XenoPshycoPath
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Posted - 2009.05.26 06:39:00 -
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Stuart Price that fitting seems nice for frigs. and yes that thread was mostly mission stuffs.. Just woundering if ur fitting would be able to take down cruisers ? Im after a fitt for both frigs and cruisers and im gonna roam in low sec alone. thnx for the help so far also. |

Gypsio III
Dirty Filthy Perverts
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Posted - 2009.05.26 07:32:00 -
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I'd say that it was impossible to take down pvp-fit cruisers in an AML Caracal, but I've done it, so it isn't. But you're reliant on being faster than the other guy and desperately trying to keep out of his optimal, while keeping him pointed. It's extremely difficult and tbh if you see meet a MWD cruiser, just run.
On the other hand, if your opponent has a lolAB... then just kill him. Watch your cap levels though. |

Rip Striker
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Posted - 2009.05.26 08:05:00 -
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Edited by: Rip Striker on 26/05/2009 08:06:14 Here are 2 medium/close range solo fits.
Originally by: Rip Striker
Anti-frig: 5x AML 2x LSE 1x AB 1x Web (swap for sensor booster w scan res script when in a larger gang) 1x Scram (swap for warp disruptor when in a larger gang) 2x BCS 2x Hobgoblins
This setup pretty much melts any kind of frigates and even some cruisers if you know how to use it. See below.
Anti-cruiser/frig: 3x HAM 2x AML 2x LSE 1x AB 1x Web (same as above) 1x Scram (same as above) 2x BCS 2x Hobgoblins
When engaging cruisers, hit the scram and web and start orbiting at 7.5-8 km while ABing --> mwd cruisers die to your 250 dps quite fast. Drone boats will be tough to kill, but it's doable.
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BhallSpawn
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Posted - 2009.05.26 10:02:00 -
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caldari pvp fitting?
no such thing
fly any other race ship and you'll be better off
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JonJames
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Posted - 2009.05.26 10:27:00 -
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Originally by: BhallSpawn caldari pvp fitting?
no such thing
fly any other race ship and you'll be better off
You have no idea what you're talking about son.
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XenoPshycoPath
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Posted - 2009.05.26 11:10:00 -
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Originally by: BhallSpawn caldari pvp fitting?
no such thing
fly any other race ship and you'll be better off
Hm the thing is my main fly Minmatar and I wonna skill out max for a caracal even iff its bad but i like the ship and gives a bigg diffrence to my minmatar shipps..
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Sidus Isaacs
Gallente
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Posted - 2009.05.26 12:32:00 -
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Originally by: BhallSpawn caldari pvp fitting?
no such thing
fly any other race ship and you'll be better off
I bet you think you are funny. But you are very very wrong.
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Essence Praetor
Retribution. Inc.
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Posted - 2009.05.26 13:11:00 -
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Edited by: Essence Praetor on 26/05/2009 13:12:31
ooo I love Caldari PVP fit threads \0/
Especially when they explain the in's and out's of Caracal Pwnage 
Caracal is good for insta-popping unsuspecting interceptors (light missiles + TP). It is also good for say... sniping off drones in a battle, which I find very useful from time to time (again light missiles + TP). Beyond that it is a very cheap way to deal supplementary damage at range for the rest of your tech I frigate/cruiser gang.
You can also fit it for an amusing little bait ship and invite a frigate to a duel in highsec. I am not going to share this fit on an open forum, but you would win VS even assault frigs 99% of the time if they don't just simply fly away But even still, it is still funny to watch. "WTF that Caracal just killed my Gisti shield boosted Jag!! EMO Rage Quit!!!" Take that same fit up against anything besides a frigate class hull . . . and your in a pod very very fast.
Beyond these concepts, your going to die. You are Minmatar and you look really scary behind your mask = Rifter, Jaguar, Wolf, Rupture, Hurricane, Vagabond and why oh why a Caracal   (BTW Jaguar and Vagabond Shield tank if cross training tanks is your issue)
In my personal opinion and experience if you need to fly tech I Caldari support your better off sporting a blackbird.
Let the raging begin 
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Sidus Isaacs
Gallente
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Posted - 2009.05.26 14:10:00 -
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Originally by: Essence Praetor Edited by: Essence Praetor on 26/05/2009 13:12:31
ooo I love Caldari PVP fit threads \0/
Especially when they explain the in's and out's of Caracal Pwnage 
Caracal is good for insta-popping unsuspecting interceptors (light missiles + TP). It is also good for say... sniping off drones in a battle, which I find very useful from time to time (again light missiles + TP). Beyond that it is a very cheap way to deal supplementary damage at range for the rest of your tech I frigate/cruiser gang.
You can also fit it for an amusing little bait ship and invite a frigate to a duel in highsec. I am not going to share this fit on an open forum, but you would win VS even assault frigs 99% of the time if they don't just simply fly away But even still, it is still funny to watch. "WTF that Caracal just killed my Gisti shield boosted Jag!! EMO Rage Quit!!!" Take that same fit up against anything besides a frigate class hull . . . and your in a pod very very fast.
Beyond these concepts, your going to die. You are Minmatar and you look really scary behind your mask = Rifter, Jaguar, Wolf, Rupture, Hurricane, Vagabond and why oh why a Caracal   (BTW Jaguar and Vagabond Shield tank if cross training tanks is your issue)
In my personal opinion and experience if you need to fly tech I Caldari support your better off sporting a blackbird.
Let the raging begin 
No need to rage, BB is the best caldari T1 cruiser.
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XenoPshycoPath
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Posted - 2009.05.26 15:01:00 -
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Thnx for the nice answear from u m8. But yeah I know my ruppie or broadsword or vaga is better but i need or want a pvp ship thatisnt like them and i simply like the caracal and i got 2 accounts so i wont cros train for this either.. Hm so in short i want a maxed out cruiser thats cheap to make and with no autocannons or lasers. But if the caracal isnt duable at all then there is no cruiser with low skill req with missiles to use i guess...
Originally by: Essence Praetor Edited by: Essence Praetor on 26/05/2009 13:12:31
ooo I love Caldari PVP fit threads \0/
Especially when they explain the in's and out's of Caracal Pwnage 
Caracal is good for insta-popping unsuspecting interceptors (light missiles + TP). It is also good for say... sniping off drones in a battle, which I find very useful from time to time (again light missiles + TP). Beyond that it is a very cheap way to deal supplementary damage at range for the rest of your tech I frigate/cruiser gang.
You can also fit it for an amusing little bait ship and invite a frigate to a duel in highsec. I am not going to share this fit on an open forum, but you would win VS even assault frigs 99% of the time if they don't just simply fly away But even still, it is still funny to watch. "WTF that Caracal just killed my Gisti shield boosted Jag!! EMO Rage Quit!!!" Take that same fit up against anything besides a frigate class hull . . . and your in a pod very very fast.
Beyond these concepts, your going to die. You are Minmatar and you look really scary behind your mask = Rifter, Jaguar, Wolf, Rupture, Hurricane, Vagabond and why oh why a Caracal   (BTW Jaguar and Vagabond Shield tank if cross training tanks is your issue)
In my personal opinion and experience if you need to fly tech I Caldari support your better off sporting a blackbird.
Let the raging begin 
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Pippan
UK1 Zero G00DFELLAS
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Posted - 2009.05.26 15:12:00 -
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Here's my station camping / 1v1 Caracal fitting.
[Caracal, Pippan's Modified Caracal] Ballistic Control System II Damage Control II
Warp Scrambler II Stasis Webifier II Invulnerability Field II Medium Shield Extender II Medium Shield Extender II
Heavy Assault Missile Launcher II, Caldari Navy Terror Assault Missile Heavy Assault Missile Launcher II, Caldari Navy Terror Assault Missile Heavy Assault Missile Launcher II, Caldari Navy Terror Assault Missile Heavy Assault Missile Launcher II, Caldari Navy Terror Assault Missile Heavy Assault Missile Launcher II, Caldari Navy Terror Assault Missile
Anti-EM Screen Reinforcer I Anti-EM Screen Reinforcer I Anti-Thermal Screen Reinforcer I
Hobgoblin II x2
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XenoPshycoPath
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Posted - 2009.05.26 15:14:00 -
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Hi il test this fitting is it ok for both frigs and cruisers whats ur exp with it ?
Originally by: Pippan Here's my station camping / 1v1 Caracal fitting.
[Caracal, Pippan's Modified Caracal] Ballistic Control System II Damage Control II
Warp Scrambler II Stasis Webifier II Invulnerability Field II Medium Shield Extender II Medium Shield Extender II
Heavy Assault Missile Launcher II, Caldari Navy Terror Assault Missile Heavy Assault Missile Launcher II, Caldari Navy Terror Assault Missile Heavy Assault Missile Launcher II, Caldari Navy Terror Assault Missile Heavy Assault Missile Launcher II, Caldari Navy Terror Assault Missile Heavy Assault Missile Launcher II, Caldari Navy Terror Assault Missile
Anti-EM Screen Reinforcer I Anti-EM Screen Reinforcer I Anti-Thermal Screen Reinforcer I
Hobgoblin II x2
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Essence Praetor
Retribution. Inc.
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Posted - 2009.05.26 15:17:00 -
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Missiles no...
Vexor . . . yes :P
A max skilled Vexors is quiet uber. 450 DPS anyone? Yes thankyou, Ill take that!! perhaps you would also like a extra flight of warrior II's in your drone bay as well? Ok . . . vexor can do that to \0/
Sweet, sweet bonused drones and blasters . . . what more can you ask for in a cheap insurable pwnage mobile of death and dismemberment.
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Essence Praetor
Retribution. Inc.
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Posted - 2009.05.26 15:22:00 -
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Edited by: Essence Praetor on 26/05/2009 15:26:16
Originally by: Pippan Here's my station camping / 1v1 Caracal fitting.
[Caracal, Pippan's Modified Caracal] Ballistic Control System II Damage Control II
Warp Scrambler II Stasis Webifier II Invulnerability Field II Medium Shield Extender II Medium Shield Extender II
Heavy Assault Missile Launcher II, Caldari Navy Terror Assault Missile Heavy Assault Missile Launcher II, Caldari Navy Terror Assault Missile Heavy Assault Missile Launcher II, Caldari Navy Terror Assault Missile Heavy Assault Missile Launcher II, Caldari Navy Terror Assault Missile Heavy Assault Missile Launcher II, Caldari Navy Terror Assault Missile
Anti-EM Screen Reinforcer I Anti-EM Screen Reinforcer I Anti-Thermal Screen Reinforcer I
Hobgoblin II x2
That is actually a rather excellent fit 
But I reiterate, at 209 m/s max speed, it is again a support ship.
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JonJames
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Posted - 2009.05.27 09:30:00 -
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Originally by: Essence Praetor Missiles no... Vexor . . . yes :P A max skilled Vexors is quiet uber. 450 DPS anyone? Yes thankyou, Ill take that!! perhaps you would also like a extra flight of warrior II's in your drone bay as well? Ok . . . vexor can do that to \0/
Sweet, sweet bonused drones and blasters . . . what more can you ask for in a cheap insurable pwnage mobile of death and dismemberment.
Incase you hadn't noticed this is a Caracel thread and has nothing to do with Vexors or how super they are. Perhaps try a thread about Vexor's or cruisers in general when commenting on the Vexor next time...
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Gypsio III
Dirty Filthy Perverts
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Posted - 2009.05.27 11:09:00 -
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I'm noticing a amusing trend of ABing cruisers in lowsec recently - which are dead meat to the standard AML Caracal.
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Max Tux
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Posted - 2009.05.27 11:39:00 -
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ran into an ecm caracal yesterday - seemed to work well till i fitted ECCM on my crow
had 3 multi's+LSE point
the mids and highs where fail - hence it died, but those mids make a nice change, esp when going against frigs that have a naturally low sensor strength
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