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DrefsabZN
Caldari
Butterfly Effect Corp.
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Posted - 2009.05.26 10:59:00 -
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Hi CCP, at it stands at the moment if you try load Eve via RDP you get an error saying "this game cannot run in a remote session". This was perfectly understandable when the RDP clients did not support directx.
However since as of Windows 7 this is no longer the case, if I load eve manually then RDP into the PC it works, however I still can not launch the client remotely because of restriction.
I know that its possible to use VNC (that's currently what I use when I need something remote) however I've found the RDP client runs eve remotely at higher FPS.
As such I ask that you please consider removing/changing this restriction to allow those running windows 7 to load the client remotely.
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Kaylan Jahlar
Minmatar
Minmatar Industrial Limited
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Posted - 2009.05.26 18:18:00 -
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I believe this restriction is in place so that people can't share accounts without CCP being able to track them. For example, one could setup a server with EVE installed on it, and have multiple users connect to it via RDP and play the same characters using the same IP (the IP of the server).
I don't believe CCP is about to allow this due to this reason.
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darius mclever
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Posted - 2009.05.26 18:45:00 -
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and as he just told you that plan is not really work. (if it ever was their plan.)
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Thrymren
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Posted - 2009.05.26 21:43:00 -
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 Originally by: DrefsabZN
Hi CCP, at it stands at the moment if you try load Eve via RDP you get an error saying "this game cannot run in a remote session". This was perfectly understandable when the RDP clients did not support directx.
However since as of Windows 7 this is no longer the case, if I load eve manually then RDP into the PC it works, however I still can not launch the client remotely because of restriction.
I know that its possible to use VNC (that's currently what I use when I need something remote) however I've found the RDP client runs eve remotely at higher FPS.
As such I ask that you please consider removing/changing this restriction to allow those running windows 7 to load the client remotely.
tried teamviewer yet?
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DrefsabZN
Caldari
Butterfly Effect Corp.
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Posted - 2009.05.27 09:09:00 -
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I've used team viewer before and it was ok but its not an option in work as the systems are locked down so you cant install software on them.
Windows 7 is installed on some of the machines so that's fine and they do allow RDP out, I could also use java based VNC but that's quite poor performance in comparison.
Im not sure the argument about people sharing accounts is that valid as there are already ways of controlling your account remotely, to block just one method out of them for this reason would be quite daft. Its much more likely it was blocked due to the until now technical inability for the client to work over RDP. Plus id hate to see any terminal services server that is capable of running large amounts of remote eve session (the hardware cost/load on that alone would be staggering).
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Dragon Greg
Amarr
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Posted - 2009.05.27 09:33:00 -
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There is also a standalone version of teamviewer which runs from a stick, so you don't have to install stuff.
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DrefsabZN
Caldari
Butterfly Effect Corp.
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Posted - 2009.05.27 10:25:00 -
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Sadly that wont work ether basically if an exicutable (or other such files) is not on a pre-approved list or even being run from a different location than expected the group policy wont allow it to be run. The joys of working for a tech company where half your staff are geeks :)
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Dmitryilyin
Gallente
Risky eXplosion
Death or Glory
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Posted - 2009.05.27 10:50:00 -
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You cannot run 3D applications using Windows Remote Desktop because there is no 3D acceleration.
You need remote desktop which uses real display such as VNC or Radmin.
And if you are going to use it through Internet it will be very slow response, so you will be able to manage skills/market/jobs or mine but not any kind of fighting.
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DrefsabZN
Caldari
Butterfly Effect Corp.
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Posted - 2009.05.27 11:14:00 -
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Originally by: Dmitryilyin
You cannot run 3D applications using Windows Remote Desktop because there is no 3D acceleration.
You need remote desktop which uses real display such as VNC or Radmin.
And if you are going to use it through Internet it will be very slow response, so you will be able to manage skills/market/jobs or mine but not any kind of fighting.
On that you are wrong if you read my original post you will see that I am talking about RDP 7 that is in windows 7 and server 2008 R2, I already know there are other way to remote in and I am using them. What I am asking for is the now defunct start-up check that the eve client does to check to see if its in an RDP session be removed/updated to account for the fact that RDP 7 now works with the game.
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Sandor Krejaa
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Posted - 2009.05.28 19:37:00 -
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Originally by: DrefsabZN
Originally by: Dmitryilyin
You cannot run 3D applications using Windows Remote Desktop because there is no 3D acceleration.
You need remote desktop which uses real display such as VNC or Radmin.
And if you are going to use it through Internet it will be very slow response, so you will be able to manage skills/market/jobs or mine but not any kind of fighting.
On that you are wrong if you read my original post you will see that I am talking about RDP 7 that is in windows 7 and server 2008 R2, I already know there are other way to remote in and I am using them. What I am asking for is the now defunct start-up check that the eve client does to check to see if its in an RDP session be removed/updated to account for the fact that RDP 7 now works with the game.
He is quite right about that support in Windows 7 and Windows SErver 2008 R2. In fact, Windows Server 2008 has opened the door for running applications in a 'virtualized' mode (almost but not quite like running remote X Windows apps in UNIX)
RDP, virtualization, and remote app has evolved quite a bit in a short while, and has opened up some very interesting options.
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GeekWarrior
Gallente
Isotope Incorporated
Exiled Collective
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Posted - 2009.05.28 23:20:00 -
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It does work if you start the game and leave it running BEFORE you RDP in.
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searess
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Posted - 2009.05.31 20:56:00 -
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Originally by: GeekWarrior
It does work if you start the game and leave it running BEFORE you RDP in.
So what happens after DT when he wants to remote in and hes been booted off ? Oh and the other one he gets a disco and has to reconnect !
Yes their are work arounds but they are a little long winded.
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LifeHatesMe
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Posted - 2009.05.31 21:01:00 -
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Originally by: DrefsabZN
Hi CCP, at it stands at the moment if you try load Eve via RDP you get an error saying "this game cannot run in a remote session". This was perfectly understandable when the RDP clients did not support directx.
However since as of Windows 7 this is no longer the case, if I load eve manually then RDP into the PC it works, however I still can not launch the client remotely because of restriction.
I know that its possible to use VNC (that's currently what I use when I need something remote) however I've found the RDP client runs eve remotely at higher FPS.
As such I ask that you please consider removing/changing this restriction to allow those running windows 7 to load the client remotely.
/signed! :)
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DrefsabZN
Caldari
Butterfly Effect Mk.2
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Posted - 2009.06.02 10:15:00 -
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Im glad to see the idea has some support, true is not an issue that can be worked around but its a little tedious and more people will be calling for this change as soon as more people start using the newer versions of RDP and realise there is no longer a technical reason for it to not work.
:)
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tatsudoshi I
Gallente
House Industries
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Posted - 2009.06.03 10:48:00 -
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Originally by: Kaylan Jahlar
I believe this restriction is in place so that people can't share accounts without CCP being able to track them. For example, one could setup a server with EVE installed on it, and have multiple users connect to it via RDP and play the same characters using the same IP (the IP of the server).
I don't believe CCP is about to allow this due to this reason.
Am I missing something or is it possible to have multiple characters from the same account active at the same time?
If not I fail to see the need for the remote restriction.
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Raijuu
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Posted - 2009.08.19 16:35:00 -
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I played with this some today and I can confirm it works via RDP on windows 7 RC. After I accidentally closed the window I tried to find ways to start it again. It seems if you run exefile in the bin subfolder inside the EVE install:
D:\Program Files\CCP\EVE\bin\ExeFile.exe
It will start without the check.
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Rilwar
BlackStar Industrial
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Posted - 2009.08.19 20:34:00 -
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Just create a batch file to start the EVE Client, then EVE doesn't see a VNC program starting it, it sees explorer.exe like it wants to.
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