A good one since it lets you travel through those systems rather than show you nothing and/or just dump you to the login screen.

It has absolutely nothing to do with creating "fine-grained lag", the purpose of TiDi is graceful degradation.

No. It does not create lag. It create graceful degradation of node performance in high-lag situation by altering the speed of the local world simulation to reduce the number of server calls to manageable levels.

You can only have GÇ£node planningGÇ¥ if you know what the nodes will be used for. In a dynamic environment, that's pretty much impossible, so GÇ£avoidingGÇ¥ it is just as impossible as planning it is to begin with.

It does not GÇ£create artifical lagGÇ¥ (fine-grained or otherwise). It ensures that the lag that already exists doesn't make server calls get lost in the processing queue by slowing down how quickly they can enter that queue.

No, it's an actual improvement, and not a warning system. It ensures that high lag doesn't immediately cause people to get lost in the server processing.

GǪwhich isn't the same thing as lag. Quite the opposite. Lag means it takes longer for things to repond, or maybe ...

There's also no way to tell if one supposedly low-load system will suddenly go into high-gear because someone chooses to do something particularly spectacular there.

The lag is not GÇ¥movedGÇ¥ GÇö the clients are not lagging more just because there's TiDi. They are actually most of the time responding much more quickly than before ...

GǪlike I said, an improvement, not a warning system.

Compared to how long it would take without TiDi?

For one, how do you know they aren't? For another, how will they use that information?

GǪwhich isn't lag. It's slow-motion.

I call it a time-keeping device. It doesn't warn anyone of anything since there is nothing in it that indicates that there's any kind of problem.

GǪin other words, compared to how long it would take without TiDi. Yes, with TiDi, the client responds more quickly.

And I answered: it makes no difference in a dynamic environment.

Slow-motion isn't lag.

Ok. Now what? There is still nothing about the TiDi meter that shows that something is going wrong.

I can and I did: it makes no difference in a dynamic environment. Your false dichotomy doesn't stop being false just because you repeat it.

Do you have any idea what "lag" actually is?

They will say that slow-motion isn't lag.

What warning is that? All TiDi does in terms of showing stuff is say how slowly time is running.

Good thing that I don't have to worry about that, then.

Nope. That's not lag. Lag is a delay in response from you press a button till it does something.

So why do you keep saying that it's the same thing as TiDi's slow-motion effect?

So you agree, then, since ...

Anyone who's ever been in a big fleet fight. It's very very nice.

GǪand your false dichotomy ...

Compared to the previous alternative merely "slowed down" is incredibly much better.

Not that you care because you're just amusing yourself with your usual contrarian bullshit.

You sir... are an idiot and let me help explain to you why you're an idiot.

+Æf course it's a workaround. ...

Ignorance is bliss... right?

Which is reducing or eliminating the lag you're experiencing.

You're saying "tidi causes lag", we're saying you're wrong.

It not only GÇ£can be seen as suchGÇ¥ GÇö it's what it actually does. What it doesn't do is act as a warning system, since it only kick in after something has happened.

It just slows the client (and server) simulations down.

GǪaside from TiDi letting you do things at close to normal responsiveness, whereas blackscreens let you do absolutely nothing at zero responsiveness, meaning TiDi lets you play the game, which is different in every way from a black screen.

How is it creating an artificial lag on the client side? Are you pressing any buttons and it isn't reacting?

GǪand TiDi doesn't do that. Also, if the warning comes afterwards, it's not early.

An artificially created lag.

The difference this makes in terms of success and achievement within the game is hardly different.

But keep posting... it's good!

Hey Whitehound! Why aren't you posting as Whitehound? Did you get muzzled due to your compulsive and incessant trolling again?

I almost forgot, on the "early warning system" nonsense...

It is not (and was never intended to be) a way to convince players to stop doing what they are doing because they are causing lag.

TiDi enables play to continue despite high lag conditions.

Quite a different thing.

Incorrect.

No. There is no GÇ£stillGÇ¥ about it.

It slows down the simulation running on the node, yes.

It has pretty much none of the effects of lag

No. It slows down the server's simulation and syncs up the client's simulation so it does the same. It doesn't warn anyone since, on the client side, it's just a real-to-simulated-time-ratio meter. Again, it's still real lag. TiDi just removes the nasty effects of it by ensuring that the server doesn't get completely lost in that high-lag environment.

No not really.

No, no it really isn't a different view, and it really isn't a warning.

Wait, what? My client has to wait for a response because of TiDi? Since when?

That has nothing to do with lag. Slowing down the server-side simulation reduces lag.

Its not a warning, its a response.

So what you're saying is, a warp taking longer is "lag"?

So tidi is bad because it reduces lag.

So the gates to a system with TiDi enabled tells me that I'm about to jump into a system which is on the same node as a system where there's a big fight going on?