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Lebaneur Minmatar Tribal Core	Posted - 2009.05.29 16:14:00 - [1] Battle report from Tribal Front. Last night the Amarr Empire launched a full scale assault on Minmatar Republic Installations and Compounds in the constellation of Hed in Heimatar Region. Determined to stop the attack on its first steps the united Minmatar Militia fleet staged the battle of line into Dal -- an important route hub between Heimatar, Metropolis, Bleak Lands and Devoid regions. The Republic fleet won its first victory while only forming up. The Amarr slaver force abandoned the major compound without resistance, but only to muster a more formidable force and return to Dal for retribution. A fierce battle ensued and while the Minmatar fleet was about to crumble under the fire of Heavy Assault Cruisers, a communication was received for heavy backup on its way. Recently returned to the Tribal front, The Wings of Maak was on its way with a gang of unbeatable 'Vagabond' class HACs. The united forces turned the tide of the battle. As a final act of desperation the dwindling Empire forces called for support. A visual of a cynosural field was confirmed. Soon the Republic fleet was facing a formidable 'Chimeira' class carrier but a tactical error had already been made. The Empire carrier was hotdropped into a loosing fight and it was therefore without any support. Its fighters tried to keep away the assailants as it tried to hold on long enough for a new wave of support that the Empire pilots were trying to scramble up, to arrive for its aid. By this time the desperate calls for more support in Minmatar Militia communications channels and brought literally every available ship to Dal and into the fight. The carrier and its late arriving support had no more chance than a sinner in Hell. The Tribal Front Correspondent salutes the Militia for a quick and effective manouver and show of unity. Did they think the Matari was too involved in internal squabbles to be able to put up a fight against the Empire? Well, they were wrong.
AbdullahAhmed Caldari Valklear Guard Ushra'Khan	Posted - 2009.05.29 16:21:00 - [2] Originally by: Lebaneur Battle report from Tribal Front. Last night the Amarr Empire launched a full scale assault on Minmatar Republic Installations and Compounds in the constellation of Hed in Heimatar Region. Determined to stop the attack on its first steps the united Minmatar Militia fleet staged the battle of line into Dal -- an important route hub between Heimatar, Metropolis, Bleak Lands and Devoid regions. The Republic fleet won its first victory while only forming up. The Amarr slaver force abandoned the major compound without resistance, but only to muster a more formidable force and return to Dal for retribution. A fierce battle ensued and while the Minmatar fleet was about to crumble under the fire of Heavy Assault Cruisers, a communication was received for heavy backup on its way. Recently returned to the Tribal front, The Wings of Maak was on its way with a gang of unbeatable 'Vagabond' class HACs. The united forces turned the tide of the battle. As a final act of desperation the dwindling Empire forces called for support. A visual of a cynosural field was confirmed. Soon the Republic fleet was facing a formidable 'Chimeira' class carrier but a tactical error had already been made. The Empire carrier was hotdropped into a loosing fight and it was therefore without any support. Its fighters tried to keep away the assailants as it tried to hold on long enough for a new wave of support that the Empire pilots were trying to scramble up, to arrive for its aid. By this time the desperate calls for more support in Minmatar Militia communications channels and brought literally every available ship to Dal and into the fight. The carrier and its late arriving support had no more chance than a sinner in Hell. The Tribal Front Correspondent salutes the Militia for a quick and effective manouver and show of unity. Did they think the Matari was too involved in internal squabbles to be able to put up a fight against the Empire? Well, they were wrong. May I get a link to the galnet ship loss record of this battle? I would very much like to check the reality of that battle. Not that I doubt you, but experience telle me to check twice, for an error once is profit lost forever. A loss of a carrier on the Amarrian front is fantastic news for the Ushra'Khan cause. Another 2,000,000,000 ISK of damage done and ship that can no longer be used to oppose us. I wish you many more kills like this, that you might weaken the Empire for us to succeed in our goals. Fly safe, Matari.
Nur AlHuda Amarr Callide Vulpis	Posted - 2009.05.29 19:11:00 - [3] Altough a carrier kill was a probably big event for you. You should get your post straight. If you consider a battle against 10 people vs 66 a great im shocked but well minmatars may have different standards. And about the coordination. I saw no cordination from minmatar side as minmatars have problem to field 20-30 people to gang. Those 66 where there only as vultures for the cheap carrier kill. Most of the people on the killmail dont even attend regular minmatar operations as with that force we would be heavily outnumbered each time we would left amarr space. And how do i know? I was there, i warped out joined survivors and warped back to battle fray and died. end of story.
AbdullahAhmed Caldari Valklear Guard Ushra'Khan	Posted - 2009.05.29 19:54:00 - [4] Originally by: Nur AlHuda Altough a carrier kill was a probably big event for you. You should get your post straight. If you consider a battle against 10 people vs 66 a great im shocked but well minmatars may have different standards. And about the coordination. I saw no cordination from minmatar side as minmatars have problem to field 20-30 people to gang. Those 66 where there only as vultures for the cheap carrier kill. Most of the people on the killmail dont even attend regular minmatar operations as with that force we would be heavily outnumbered each time we would left amarr space. And how do i know? I was there, i warped out joined survivors and warped back to battle fray and died. end of story. Regardless of numbers, maintainign a large fleet still requires the ability to command, and the Amar were stupid to engage such vastly higher numbers. God won't save you from guided missiles and high-explosive shells.
Alica Wildfire Minmatar Federal Investigations Agency	Posted - 2009.05.29 20:33:00 - [5] May I quote one of the most famous Brutor philosophers? +God hates the stupid, the fainthearted and the slow. To say it short: God hates the Amarr.½ Pity that there is no god. -- FREEDOM, PUNK & AUTOCANNONS
Becq Starforged Minmatar Ship Construction Services Ushra'Khan	Posted - 2009.05.29 22:19:00 - [6] No doubt the Amarrian militia is dancing with sheer joy at the news that so many of their fellow zealots have been given the gift of meeting with their 'god'. I have only one complaint: it seems that three of the roughly two dozen hostile ships recorded as participating managed to survive, and I fear that there may have been others that didn't make it into the records. Ah, well, better luck next time... Becq Starforged's serious expression falters, and he grins Good work, militia! -- Becq Starforged The Flame of Freedom Burns On!
Invelious Amarr Deus Imperiosus Acies	Posted - 2009.05.29 22:28:00 - [7] Edited by: Invelious on 29/05/2009 22:28:39 Congrats guys, you killed a carrier, hardly makes up for the fleet issue tempests/stabbers and other ships we killed from Wings of Maak that other day that dealt over 6 billion isk in damage in a single engagement.
Mutnin Mutineers	Posted - 2009.05.29 22:59:00 - [8] Originally by: AbdullahAhmed May I get a link to the galnet ship loss record of this battle? I would very much like to check the reality of that battle. Not that I doubt you, but experience telle me to check twice, for an error once is profit lost forever. A loss of a carrier on the Amarrian front is fantastic news for the Ushra'Khan cause. Another 2,000,000,000 ISK of damage done and ship that can no longer be used to oppose us. I wish you many more kills like this, that you might weaken the Empire for us to succeed in our goals. Fly safe, Matari. You can find the link here.. minmatar-militia.org/kb/?a=kill_related&kll_id=37871 While the numbers are a bit misleading. We had a slightly lager fleet at the start of the fight and killed off the carrier's support and many of them ran. The Amarr brought back another fail fleet to try and rescue their carrier but it died as ran away well. I think some of the of the losses on the Minatar side came from other engagements in that same time line as I only remember seeing 3 white wrecks on the battlefield. It was pretty much a very one sided engagement as we slaughtered them and they did have a station camp just before that fight in the plex. For myself it shows two losses in that fight, but the dessie loss came from earlier on before the carrier fight. I tried to go in and stop the Minor capture solo and lost the first ship.
Mutnin Mutineers	Posted - 2009.05.29 23:02:00 - [9] Edited by: Mutnin on 29/05/2009 23:06:08 Originally by: Nur AlHuda Altough a carrier kill was a probably big event for you. You should get your post straight. If you consider a battle against 10 people vs 66 a great im shocked but well minmatars may have different standards. And about the coordination. I saw no cordination from minmatar side as minmatars have problem to field 20-30 people to gang. Those 66 where there only as vultures for the cheap carrier kill. Most of the people on the killmail dont even attend regular minmatar operations as with that force we would be heavily outnumbered each time we would left amarr space. And how do i know? I was there, i warped out joined survivors and warped back to battle fray and died. end of story. Kill boards never show the true engagement numbers. Most of those guys piled in at the end. Look at the numbers for the other kills.. It was roughly 28 to 30 at the start of that fight. The rest didn't pile on the KM until the call went out to help kill the carrier. What was sad is you guys failed to muster up much of anything to come save your carrier. That shows the difference between your forces and ours as we saved our carrier in the gate fight on Dal/Lantorn the week before. besides that, it's pretty much a fail waiting to happen if you pull a carrier off station with only 10 support ships as you claim.
AbdullahAhmed Caldari Valklear Guard Ushra'Khan	Posted - 2009.05.29 23:13:00 - [10] Originally by: Mutnin Originally by: AbdullahAhmed May I get a link to the galnet ship loss record of this battle? I would very much like to check the reality of that battle. Not that I doubt you, but experience telle me to check twice, for an error once is profit lost forever. A loss of a carrier on the Amarrian front is fantastic news for the Ushra'Khan cause. Another 2,000,000,000 ISK of damage done and ship that can no longer be used to oppose us. I wish you many more kills like this, that you might weaken the Empire for us to succeed in our goals. Fly safe, Matari. You can find the link here.. minmatar-militia.org/kb/?a=kill_related&kll_id=37871 While the numbers are a bit misleading. We had a slightly lager fleet at the start of the fight and killed off the carrier's support and many of them ran. The Amarr brought back another fail fleet to try and rescue their carrier but it died as ran away well. I think some of the of the losses on the Minatar side came from other engagements in that same time line as I only remember seeing 3 white wrecks on the battlefield. It was pretty much a very one sided engagement as we slaughtered them and they did have a station camp just before that fight in the plex. For myself it shows two losses in that fight, but the dessie loss came from earlier on before the carrier fight. I tried to go in and stop the Minor capture solo and lost the first ship. Excellent show of force, and in military terms, incredibly efficient. I look forward to hearing more battle reviews telling of Amarr Empire losses.

BattleStar Crusader Amarr Absinthe Brothers Consortium	Posted - 2009.05.30 14:53:00 - [11] If you would take care to notice, that the gang you fuaght was comprised of mainley absinthe ships. Our Expeditionary Heavy assualt force was out to destrupt the minmatar in any way possible. Unfortunatley I stepped down as Fleet commander to persue another activity. The carrier was Hotdrop was not a decision made lightley, and im sure the pilots of the carrier would agree it was maybe time you got a kill of that magnetude. Be aware the carrier was replaced instantley as well as the entire arsenal of absinthe ships. With some what ease i might add. But on that note i will say congratulations to the minmitar, we have killed many of your capital ships, you did well to catch it and gather your forces in time to kill it. I hope that this grants you the confidense you require.
AbdullahAhmed Caldari Valklear Guard Ushra'Khan	Posted - 2009.05.30 14:58:00 - [12] Originally by: BattleStar Crusader If you would take care to notice, that the gang you fuaght was comprised of mainley absinthe ships. Our Expeditionary Heavy assualt force was out to destrupt the minmatar in any way possible. Unfortunatley I stepped down as Fleet commander to persue another activity. The carrier was Hotdrop was not a decision made lightley, and im sure the pilots of the carrier would agree it was maybe time you got a kill of that magnetude. Be aware the carrier was replaced instantley as well as the entire arsenal of absinthe ships. With some what ease i might add. But on that note i will say congratulations to the minmitar, we have killed many of your capital ships, you did well to catch it and gather your forces in time to kill it. I hope that this grants you the confidense you require. Remember, Amarr, no ship is free. Not even when you mine the resources yourself. Don't belittle them and raise a false front. You lost a capital ship, and it's a setback, to deny it is to invite failure.
BattleStar Crusader Amarr Absinthe Brothers Consortium	Posted - 2009.05.30 15:01:00 - [13] How was it a set back to me and my men, the carrier was not of absinthe and the pilot had another within the hour. the insurance is more than enough to warrent using it and loosing it. My men where neither set back nor hindered by the loss of ships. They withdrew and reshiped. As i said all ships lost were replaced in within the hour and with minimal loss of isk.
AbdullahAhmed Caldari Valklear Guard Ushra'Khan	Posted - 2009.05.30 15:17:00 - [14] Originally by: BattleStar Crusader How was it a set back to me and my men, the carrier was not of absinthe and the pilot had another within the hour. the insurance is more than enough to warrent using it and loosing it. My men where neither set back nor hindered by the loss of ships. They withdrew and reshiped. As i said all ships lost were replaced in within the hour and with minimal loss of isk. When will ypu spacefaring diots get a clue. ISK is not the only determining factor. I may be Caldari, but you should atleast have some clue about economics! And that of battles! Who's side was the carrier on? It may not have been yours, but It was certainly fighting for your cause. I'll let you figure out the rest. Oh and the Minmatar will always win over the Amarrian Empire. God-Fearing idiots still beleive that their divine power delivers them ships for nothing more than prayer. Hah! Let's simplify that for them, The Minmatar will prevail, because they're much more intelligent. Abdul Sneers Out.
Georgina Eldridge	Posted - 2009.05.30 16:46:00 - [15] Originally by: AbdullahAhmed Originally by: BattleStar Crusader How was it a set back to me and my men, the carrier was not of absinthe and the pilot had another within the hour. the insurance is more than enough to warrent using it and loosing it. My men where neither set back nor hindered by the loss of ships. They withdrew and reshiped. As i said all ships lost were replaced in within the hour and with minimal loss of isk. When will ypu spacefaring diots get a clue. ISK is not the only determining factor. I may be Caldari, but you should atleast have some clue about economics! And that of battles! Who's side was the carrier on? It may not have been yours, but It was certainly fighting for your cause. I'll let you figure out the rest. Oh and the Minmatar will always win over the Amarrian Empire. God-Fearing idiots still beleive that their divine power delivers them ships for nothing more than prayer. Hah! Let's simplify that for them, The Minmatar will prevail, because they're much more intelligent. Abdul Sneers Out. DIRKA DIRKA MOHAMMED JIHAD! DIRKA DIRKA DIRKA!
Zverofaust	Posted - 2009.05.30 20:50:00 - [16] Exciting. Unfortunately my, errr, computer systems have been offline due to maintenance for several days and I regret not being able to take part. That said, the Ammarians make a good point; why do 60 pilots appear only when a juicy, defenseless capital ship parks itself in the middle of Dal? Where are the forces of Minmatar at any other time? The destruction of a single ship, albeit a massive one, is nothing compared to the destruction of Amarrian oppression over its occupied systems which we in the Minmatar militia should be pursuing. Liberating Heimatar and Metropolis and ridding the Bleak Lands and Devoid of the stain of Amarr should be enough to gather just as many pilots on a daily basis. Now if only those infernal mechanics would hurry up with the repairs to my computer system....
AbdullahAhmed Caldari Valklear Guard Ushra'Khan	Posted - 2009.05.30 21:58:00 - [17] Originally by: Georgina Eldridge Originally by: AbdullahAhmed Originally by: BattleStar Crusader How was it a set back to me and my men, the carrier was not of absinthe and the pilot had another within the hour. the insurance is more than enough to warrent using it and loosing it. My men where neither set back nor hindered by the loss of ships. They withdrew and reshiped. As i said all ships lost were replaced in within the hour and with minimal loss of isk. When will ypu spacefaring diots get a clue. ISK is not the only determining factor. I may be Caldari, but you should atleast have some clue about economics! And that of battles! Who's side was the carrier on? It may not have been yours, but It was certainly fighting for your cause. I'll let you figure out the rest. Oh and the Minmatar will always win over the Amarrian Empire. God-Fearing idiots still beleive that their divine power delivers them ships for nothing more than prayer. Hah! Let's simplify that for them, The Minmatar will prevail, because they're much more intelligent. Abdul Sneers Out. DIRKA DIRKA MOHAMMED JIHAD! DIRKA DIRKA DIRKA! Check your neural socket pilot, something seems to have shrt-circuited!
Zanco Ceal Amarr Gunship Diplomacy	Posted - 2009.05.31 16:00:00 - [18] 2bil isk for a chimera!! Perhaps for the Executive model The amarr miltia presence in dal was mainly an ab-c fleet on a corp only with special friends opp, anyone else in the system just happened to be there. By the time a fleet had been assembled to jump into dal it was already over. The fleet was then disbanded as the minmatar usually choose to retire from active duty for a few hours when a bs heavy amarr fleet is active. Statistics show that Mutnin uses the word 'fail' alot. Perhaps you have some inner daemons to face there hun.


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