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Death Becoming
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Posted - 2009.06.02 11:31:00 -
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Recently finished a WARDEC and arguement with the WTs insued. Who won?
Should the determining factor be number of kills?
Should it be ISK destroyed?
And whose kill board is more correct?
These are questions that I cant answer with any certainty, but both sides feel they won. I personally call it a draw there were massive casualties on both sides with the final isk destroyed being only a 100M in our favor.
Just wondering how others determine the winner in their WARDECs?
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Ghostfire
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Posted - 2009.06.02 11:35:00 -
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This is just an opinion but it sounds like a draw.
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EVIL SYNNs
Wrath of Fenris
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Posted - 2009.06.02 11:53:00 -
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if they disband or emo rage quit.. VICTORY
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ThrashPower
Gallente
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Posted - 2009.06.02 12:22:00 -
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Whoever ends the war is the loser.
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Smokin Gunn
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Posted - 2009.06.02 12:41:00 -
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 Originally by: ThrashPower
Whoever ends the war is the loser.
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jhon whang
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Posted - 2009.06.02 13:17:00 -
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Originally by: Death Becoming
Recently finished a WARDEC and arguement with the WTs insued. Who won?
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Whoever cried the most lost, of course.
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Sun Clausewitz
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Posted - 2009.06.02 13:26:00 -
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Who intiated the war? For what reason and goals?
Were those goals accomplished? If yes, they won, if no, they lost.
Pick Three:
Caldari/PVP/Solo/Success |
Jokus Balim
Minmatar
Rising Sun Inc.
EDGE Alliance
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Posted - 2009.06.02 15:37:00 -
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I think you should wardec them and continue, till you have an unambiguous result 
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Deathhawk
Hammersmith Hardmen
Exquisite Malevolence
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Posted - 2009.06.02 16:57:00 -
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if im not on your side you lose
Chuck Norris wears Deathhawk pyjamas |
Cupdeez
Out of Order
Tenth Legion
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Posted - 2009.06.02 16:59:00 -
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Hmmm.. Well normally the person who won the war owns the other person space or still owns their space.
Since this sounds more like an empire war? If this is an empire war and the other group made the war mutual then who ever retracts the war is the loser. Low sec and NPC 0.0 wars would then result in who controls the best and isk lost.
The one who did the most damage to the other group. This is always very difficult to prove but if one lost 4 Teir 3 BS and killed 4 HAC's in return who is the real winner?
I would personal say the BS group because well they have insurance on the ships vs T2 ships who's insurance is null.
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Lee Weiseng
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Posted - 2009.06.02 18:04:00 -
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why don't you just challange them to one last battle. whomever is left standing (no matter how many are left) .. wins |
Kahega Amielden
Minmatar
Suddenly Ninjas
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Posted - 2009.06.02 18:22:00 -
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Originally by: Sun Clausewitz
Who intiated the war? For what reason and goals?
Were those goals accomplished? If yes, they won, if no, they lost.
This.
Any other measurement is stupid.
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Mister Poopypants
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Posted - 2009.06.02 22:42:00 -
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Originally by: Kahega Amielden
Originally by: Sun Clausewitz
Who intiated the war? For what reason and goals?
Were those goals accomplished? If yes, they won, if no, they lost.
This.
Any other measurement is stupid.
Well, you could always just break out the tape measure and do an e-peen check.
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Alt Tabbed
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Posted - 2009.06.03 00:16:00 -
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Originally by: Mister ****ypants
Well, you could always just break out the tape measure and do an e-peen check.
TBH: that should have been out before the wardec went live.
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Death Becoming
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Posted - 2009.06.06 10:08:00 -
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Update:
The War has been continued an additional week. Apparently our CEO has slept with thier CEO's girlfriend and got her pregnant and wont call her or something along those lines because thier CEO is ****ed. lol
I guess it will come down to a final throw down after all.
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Kato Akorahil
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Posted - 2009.06.06 11:06:00 -
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Edited by: Kato Akorahil on 06/06/2009 11:06:43
The winner of a war is not determined by who ends it. Ending a War on the agressors side can be either a sign of compassion, or a stretigical advantage of keeping the enemy not toaly destroyed and beeing able to ransom, or set any demands the victorious sees suited and press them empty to the blood.
Owever, a war on one side is lost if the participating side cannot hold up the necessary supply for war efforts, Lost too much money to be able to continue for long, If the enemy is way overpowering you without chance of successful resistance or if your corporation /alliance breaks up because of it and thus is no longer able to keep up fighting.
Should no clear vitory be achieved ( stalemate ) the war doesnt end, it ends when one side cannot continue at all.
Should the agressor be unable ot overcome enemy defenses and has to stop the attack he is most likely to be considered the loser as his strengh was insufficient to overcome enemy resistance.
i personaly consider any other way to determine who wins a war insufficient
:)
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Irida Mershkov
Gallente
War is Bliss
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Posted - 2009.06.06 12:35:00 -
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ISK Damage IMO. Say you lose 50 rifters and they lose 20 battleships, it's pretty obvious who won there, k/d ratio aside. Yes they killed more, but ultimately you did the most damage. |
Ta'jek
Angels Of Death EVE
Free Worlds Alliance
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Posted - 2009.06.06 13:33:00 -
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Originally by: Death Becoming
Update:
The War has been continued an additional week. Apparently our CEO has slept with thier CEO's girlfriend and got her pregnant and wont call her or something along those lines because thier CEO is ****ed. lol
I guess it will come down to a final throw down after all.
that wouldn't relate to this thread would it...
Linkage
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soldieroffortune 258
Gallente
Soldier of Fortune Inc.
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Posted - 2009.06.06 14:18:00 -
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well, the loser is the one who surrenders, the winner accepts that surrender? lol |
Ta'jek
Angels Of Death EVE
Free Worlds Alliance
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Posted - 2009.06.06 14:32:00 -
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actually I am guessing the loser is whoever started an internet spaceship war over real life issues... the rest is immaterial
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Vaerk One
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Posted - 2009.06.06 16:56:00 -
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Originally by: Ta'jek
Originally by: Death Becoming
Update:
The War has been continued an additional week. Apparently our CEO has slept with thier CEO's girlfriend and got her pregnant and wont call her or something along those lines because thier CEO is ****ed. lol
I guess it will come down to a final throw down after all.
that wouldn't relate to this thread would it...
Linkage
I'm so saving that thread for future use |
Morel Nova
z3r0 Gravity
YARRR and CO
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Posted - 2009.06.06 18:39:00 -
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Originally by: Death Becoming
Update:
The War has been continued an additional week. Apparently our CEO has slept with thier CEO's girlfriend and got her pregnant and wont call her or something along those lines because thier CEO is ****ed. lol
this should make it clear who the winner is imho
Put in space whales!
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Lonzo Kincaid
Duty.
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Posted - 2009.06.06 18:53:00 -
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objectives achieved derrr
were you war deccing as part of a merc contract? what were you to do? cause them isk loss via killing them? or just disrupt their operations so they can't trade as well as the guy who hired you? |
Badmin
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Posted - 2009.06.06 19:09:00 -
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A brief description of Empire wars...
Upon entering into a "war" your corporation attempts to disrupt enemy activites by playing waiting games outside of stations.
After you sit at the station for 10 hours playing undocking games, you sit at the stargate waiting for them to come after you.
After they come after you, you retreat to your station and continue playing station games.
END WAR. |
Death Becoming
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Posted - 2009.06.07 12:54:00 -
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Originally by: Ta'jek
Originally by: Death Becoming
Update:
The War has been continued an additional week. Apparently our CEO has slept with thier CEO's girlfriend and got her pregnant and wont call her or something along those lines because thier CEO is ****ed. lol
I guess it will come down to a final throw down after all.
that wouldn't relate to this thread would it...
Linkage
No, that comment I made about the girlfriend was to emphasize how upset the opposing CEO was to losing his fleet to a much younger force, that just happened to have better FCs.
Although that thread is hiliarious..
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Red Teufel
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Posted - 2009.06.08 18:11:00 -
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Originally by: Death Becoming
Recently finished a WARDEC and arguement with the WTs insued. Who won?
Should the determining factor be number of kills?
Should it be ISK destroyed?
And whose kill board is more correct?
These are questions that I cant answer with any certainty, but both sides feel they won. I personally call it a draw there were massive casualties on both sides with the final isk destroyed being only a 100M in our favor.
Just wondering how others determine the winner in their WARDECs?
War is won by achieving your objectives. If itĘs, Kill the Ceo and bring back his corpse, force the corp to dissolve, pay ransom, own space, ect. |
Jauqs
Caldari
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Posted - 2009.06.08 19:08:00 -
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Originally by: Kahega Amielden
Originally by: Sun Clausewitz
Who intiated the war? For what reason and goals?
Were those goals accomplished? If yes, they won, if no, they lost.
This.
Any other measurement is stupid.
/signed
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Death Becoming
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Posted - 2009.06.13 05:15:00 -
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Further update:
Wow we are in our third week of war with these guys.
Not much happened last week just seemed we couldnt get our fleet together for RL reasons. We did manage to pop a couple of them off but the came back towards the end of the week and caught one of our noobs mining and another hauling during wartime lol (school of hard knocks).
Maybe this week we can get our corp together and have an all out final showdown. |
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