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Darwin Duck
Ihatalo Navy
Ihatalo Cartel Navy
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Posted - 2009.06.04 12:45:00 -
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Me and a IRL friend, (childhood friend) have 2 accounts each, but were thinking of making a shared account to use for research. Is this allowed or against the Eula (I'm not reading through that bible)
There will be no issue with theft or anything like that since we are very good friends and have been for 20 years.
Could CCP have a problem with us sharing an account? Since we both allready have 2 accounts each to keep under control we figured it would be best to share the Research account.
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Shadow Devourer
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Posted - 2009.06.04 12:48:00 -
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The short answer "account sharing is against the EULA".
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K'Daai
Imperial Academy
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Posted - 2009.06.04 12:49:00 -
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 Originally by: Shadow Devourer
The short answer "account sharing is against the EULA".
The even shorter answer: No.
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Winterblink
Body Count Inc.
Against ALL Authorities
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Posted - 2009.06.04 12:49:00 -
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Technically, no.
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Mish'Kala
Minmatar
FarSight Location and Recovery Services
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Posted - 2009.06.04 12:49:00 -
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the letter of the EULA is no account sharing.
Who ever creates the account is the account owner and fully responsible for any shinnanigans that account is attached to.
After that, its down to you.
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Wai Ng'Tse
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Posted - 2009.06.04 12:53:00 -
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Edited by: Wai Ng''Tse on 04/06/2009 12:53:21
While even the Devs and GMs have been known to share accounts, or log onto another account for a skill change. Unfortunately, it's technically not allowed and getting caught could result in the account being banned.
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Grez
Core Contingency
Laconian Syndicate
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Posted - 2009.06.04 12:55:00 -
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I think the general thought by CCP is - logging in to do more than change skills on someone else's account is a no-no, and even then, it's inadvisable.
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Darwin Duck
Ihatalo Navy
Ihatalo Cartel Navy
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Posted - 2009.06.04 12:59:00 -
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Thanks for the answers!
Bummer...
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Haks'he Lirky
Durgarnir
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Posted - 2009.06.04 13:01:00 -
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What CCP do not know about will not matter.
But if something happens where the ownership of the account becomes an issue you risk the account being banned.
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Anubis Xian
Reavers
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Posted - 2009.06.04 14:17:00 -
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You can only share an account with your clone.
Originally by: CCP Oveur
The client handles no logic, it is simply a dumb terminal.
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Gunnanmon
Gallente
UNITED STAR SYNDICATE
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Posted - 2009.06.04 14:28:00 -
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I'd hazard a guess that those with Titans regularly share account info.
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Ankhesentapemkah
Gallente
State Protectorate
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Posted - 2009.06.04 14:34:00 -
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Like others have said, it's technically not allowed, but as long as you don't cause any trouble with it and CCP doesn't have a reason to investigate your account, you should get away with it. If you ever want to apply for ISD or anything with CCP which requires a pristine account, them finding out that you have shared your account in the past (and yes they'll look for those things) will likely WTFBBQ any chances of getting in.
In the end it's up to you.
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Gnulpie
Minmatar
Miner Tech
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Posted - 2009.06.04 14:38:00 -
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Account sharing is not allowed.
All involved parties can get perma-banned for that.
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Haks'he Lirky
Durgarnir
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Posted - 2009.06.04 14:45:00 -
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Originally by: Gnulpie
Account sharing is not allowed.
All involved parties can get perma-banned for that.
Key word being "can get".
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Lithyia Theia
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Posted - 2009.06.04 14:46:00 -
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Originally by: Gnulpie
Account sharing is not allowed.
All involved parties can get perma-banned for that.
they havnt banned bob yet.
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Ghoest
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Posted - 2009.06.04 17:09:00 -
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Its not allowed but if your friend logs on an account you own nothing will happen.
However if your friend scams you its all on you CCP wont help because what you did was technically not allowed.
Wherever you went - Here you are.
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Sebea
Bottomfeeders Science and Research
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Posted - 2009.06.04 17:15:00 -
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Originally by: Ghoest
Its not allowed but if your friend logs on an account you own nothing will happen.
However if your friend scams you its all on you CCP wont help because what you did was technically not allowed.
Pretty much this.
If you share accounts, nothing will happen to you, as long as both parties are willing in the sharing.
However, if you come up talking about "oh we shared accounts and he took this from me", you will simply get told by CCP that "Welp, nothing we can do for you then, you stuck yourself out there"
Also:
Originally by: Gnulpie
Account sharing is not allowed.
All involved parties can get perma-banned for that.
Your an idiot and should probably read over things before just spouting out crap.
If I was so inclined, I would pour through the endless pages of forums and find the CCP dev post that pretty much says "do it at your own risk, and don't call us if you get screwed by your eve friends".
Unfortunately, I don't feel like digging for it.
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Sniper Wolf18
Gallente
A Pretty Pony Princess
General Tso's Alliance
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Posted - 2009.06.04 17:23:00 -
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Originally by: Darwin Duck
Me and a IRL friend, (childhood friend) have 2 accounts each, but were thinking of making a shared account to use for research. Is this allowed or against the Eula (I'm not reading through that bible)
There will be no issue with theft or anything like that since we are very good friends and have been for 20 years.
Could CCP have a problem with us sharing an account? Since we both allready have 2 accounts each to keep under control we figured it would be best to share the Research account.
While sharing accounts is against the EULA the only CCP will actually do anything is if your friend steals all of your stuff or you steal his. If you both trust each other enough to not do that, you should be fine and CCP wont care.
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Kewso
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Posted - 2009.06.04 17:54:00 -
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supposedly not allowed.
but lots of people do it anyway.
I've been in a couple teamspeaks that it done openly.
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Armoured C
Gallente
Federation of Freedom Fighters
Aggression.
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Posted - 2009.06.04 17:59:00 -
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Originally by: Haks'he Lirky
Originally by: Gnulpie
Account sharing is not allowed.
All involved parties can get perma-banned for that.
Key word being "can get".
more words been done
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Lonzo Kincaid
Duty.
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Posted - 2009.06.04 18:07:00 -
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Originally by: Darwin Duck
Is account sharing allowed?
only if you don't get caught.
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Penelope Nara
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Posted - 2009.06.04 19:02:00 -
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Account sharing is ELLEGAL please do not persue this course or talk about doing so here.
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Armoured C
Gallente
Federation of Freedom Fighters
Aggression.
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Posted - 2009.06.04 19:19:00 -
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Originally by: Penelope Nara
Account sharing is ILLEGAL please do not persue this course or talk about doing so here.
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Karlemgne
Tides Of War
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Posted - 2009.06.04 19:36:00 -
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Edited by: Karlemgne on 04/06/2009 19:36:56
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Karlemgne
Tides Of War
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Posted - 2009.06.04 19:37:00 -
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It is technically against the EULA and totally inadvisable. Having said that, I do know people, as others here have pointed out, who have done this for years and have never gotten caught.
The problem is that there is much more too the issue than you "can get" perma banned. There have been a number of high profile cases (Cran comes to mind) where account sharing has been discovered and ALL of a person's accounts have been perma banned.
So its not just that you'll get a, "sorry your SOL," if you petition a dispute that arises about ownership of the account. You risk losing ALL of your accounts to a perma ban.
Additionally all it takes is ONE guy who knows you and decides he doesn't like you anymore to petition you for account sharing to sink you.
I guess, in sum, you are not allowed to account share. You could probably get away with it forever if you did, and you were relatively low profile about it; however it isn't something that I would do--ever. And if you are caught you could be booted from eve permanently.
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Sythyss
Paradigm Council
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Posted - 2009.06.04 20:14:00 -
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Edited by: Sythyss on 04/06/2009 20:15:12
Originally by: Ankhesentapemkah
Like others have said, it's technically not allowed, but as long as you don't cause any trouble with it and CCP doesn't have a reason to investigate your account, you should get away with it. If you ever want to apply for ISD or anything with CCP which requires a pristine account, them finding out that you have shared your account in the past (and yes they'll look for those things) will likely WTFBBQ any chances of getting in.
In the end it's up to you.
Look, sure, it's technically against the EULA, but it is absolutely *impossible* to prove. The MOST they can do is trace the login back to a certain ip...which proves nothing. It's the same situation as you're not allowed to sell isk for out of game stuff, like telling your friend to wash your car for isk. Sure, it's against the EULA, and again, absolutely impossible to prove. |
Jinx Barker
Caldari
GFB Scientific
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Posted - 2009.06.04 21:33:00 -
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You, and RL BFF can get married, or enter a cvil union, and then you can share accounts, cause you are "family" now.
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ZW Dewitt
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Posted - 2009.06.04 21:39:00 -
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Originally by: Sythyss
Look, sure, it's technically against the EULA, but it is absolutely *impossible* to prove. The MOST they can do is trace the login back to a certain ip...which proves nothing. It's the same situation as you're not allowed to sell isk for out of game stuff, like telling your friend to wash your car for isk. Sure, it's against the EULA, and again, absolutely impossible to prove.
Good thing CCP operates on whatever standard of proof they want. This isn't a case where it has to be proven "beyond a reasonable doubt". |
Adeline Grey
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Posted - 2009.06.04 23:43:00 -
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I'd bet 25% of Eve shares there account, but yes, it is against the rules.
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Taedrin
Gallente
Golden Mechanization Protectorate
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Posted - 2009.06.05 00:12:00 -
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To all those who say that "account sharing is only technically against the rules, and CCP won't get you in trouble unless you do something wrong"...
CCP *HAS* actively sought out and banned account sharing. I remember a few years ago that alliances used to have "cyno nets" which were shared between capital pilots. CCP banned these cyno-nets and sent a strong message that account sharing was against the EULA.
While it is true that CCP probably won't catch you if you share your account in order to change skills, CCP will ban you if they ever find out. |
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