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Malcanis
Vanishing Point.
The Initiative.
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Posted - 2012.05.15 04:41:00 -
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TravisWB wrote:
There is a single alliance that on its own has probably somewhere between 100 and 1000 times the economic power of ALL OTHER PLAYERS and player groups combined.
Malcanis' Law: Any proposal justified on the basis that "it will benefit new players" is invariably to the greater advantage of older, richer players.
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Sang-in Tiers
Hedion University
Amarr Empire
15
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Posted - 2012.05.15 05:18:00 -
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I'm playing casually, running missions and trading stuff... what is OP talking about? |
Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
733
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Posted - 2012.05.15 06:47:00 -
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Sang-in Tiers wrote:I'm playing casually, running missions and trading stuff... what is OP talking about?
You're supposed to be bitter about gankers ... and market manipulators?
Those who cannot adapt become victims of Evolugalbugaslugakjlwsdhvbzxd |
Doctor Ungabungas
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
213
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Posted - 2012.05.15 06:52:00 -
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TravisWB wrote:Never before has any Hulkageddon had this affect, but this is not a normal hulkageddon.
There are no 'noobs' in hulks. How many months of train is it to get into one?
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Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
733
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Posted - 2012.05.15 06:55:00 -
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Doctor Ungabungas wrote:TravisWB wrote:Never before has any Hulkageddon had this affect, but this is not a normal hulkageddon. There are no 'noobs' in hulks. How many months of train is it to get into one?
More than a month I think. If they have T2 strips on it might have been another month about (highsec ones don't have to train for ABC ore crystals - maybe not even the lowsec ores either.
Those who cannot adapt become victims of Evolugalbugaslugakjlwsdhvbzxd |
Pak Narhoo
Knights of Kador
466
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Posted - 2012.05.15 06:57:00 -
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Doctor Ungabungas wrote:TravisWB wrote:Never before has any Hulkageddon had this affect, but this is not a normal hulkageddon. There are no 'noobs' in hulks. How many months of train is it to get into one?
Less then 40 day's to sit in a hulk with strip miner 1's.
Who needs television when you have EVE?
EVE drama, best drama. |
Anya Ohaya
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
117
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Posted - 2012.05.15 08:15:00 -
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Surfin's PlunderBunny wrote:Helicity is no goon stooge! 
Yeah, but to Joe Sixpack they're all the same.  |
Francisco Bizzaro
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Posted - 2012.05.15 08:44:00 -
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Pak Narhoo wrote:Doctor Ungabungas wrote:TravisWB wrote:Never before has any Hulkageddon had this affect, but this is not a normal hulkageddon. There are no 'noobs' in hulks. How many months of train is it to get into one? Less then 40 day's to sit in a hulk with strip miner 1's.
Yes, you can do this. Does that make it a good idea?
Among high-sec miners, good ideas are truly the scarcest resource. |
Rico Minali
Sons Of 0din
Fatal Ascension
632
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Posted - 2012.05.15 08:50:00 -
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TravisWB wrote:I would not have truly thought that what is happening would be possible but I suppose it is.
As a long term indy that used to run on the edges of Gallente and Minmatar empire I have noticed a HUGE depopulation of these regions.
Never before has any Hulkageddon had this affect, but this is not a normal hulkageddon.
What is currently going on is an all out war against noobs and the casual player that pays real money to idly mine and convo in empire.
Running any kind of indy ship between noob hubs, market hubs or along ANY trade route is an actual gauntlent that slaughters the noobs and the casual player that hasn't had the benefits of being trained in how to survive in LOWSEC, cause after all, he is in the "safety" of hisec.
I have now witnessed for nearly a week a hisec incursion that can barely and even rarely is able to put up an incursion fleet, so WTF is that about? Some kind of incursion killing nerf happen or what? Depopulation effects?
Hisec is now truly the most dangerous part of Eve space to be in.
Whoever it is the decided this was a good thing can only be a goon stooge.
Something really bad is happening to this game and I'll wager unsubs will tell the tale in the end.
What a gimp.
So you are saying CCP must step in and stop players from doing what they want? The day that happens its goodbye Eve Online, its the only thing that makes this game stand out. And I lolled that Hisec is teh most dangerous place, when I want to chip around the house and do other stuff while being mostly afk, what do I do? I log in my hisec alts and do stuff tehre, including mining still even though hulkaggedon is on and guess what? I havnt had any ships ganked yet, in fact I have never had a ship ganked in hisec.
And 4 of my 7 playable pilots are in hisec. So yes I do know what Im doing in hisec too.
Trust me, I almost know what I'm doing. |
Rico Minali
Sons Of 0din
Fatal Ascension
632
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Posted - 2012.05.15 08:59:00 -
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TravisWB wrote:
There is a single alliance that on its own has probably somewhere between 100 and 1000 times the economic power of ALL OTHER PLAYERS and player groups combined.
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I just read this and spat coffee all over the place, PLEASE tell me who this mighty alliance is! 1000 times the economic power of the rest of Eve COMBINED? They must be making hundreds of trillions a day in isk, Ill join them please, tehy sound awesome!
Trust me, I almost know what I'm doing. |
Darek Castigatus
Immortalis Inc.
Shadow Cartel
78
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Posted - 2012.05.15 14:33:00 -
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TravisWB wrote:Well, I have been around far long enough to know that the majority of the reponses would add negative content to these forums, which seems to be the norm..
People on this forum certainly have no problem with calling bullshit when they see it, try not talking tinfoil ridden rubbish and people wont call you on it.
TravisWB wrote:I don't have a problem surviving in EVE. I KNOW how this stuff works.
I have simply observed that large and getting larger regions of EVE are depopulating and the markets have actually spun out of control with runaway inflation.
Where do you think the hundreds if not thousands of NEW ALTS that make up the suicide ganker FLEETS that are now the scourge of hisec came from? Noobs, HAH, and yes, that is spittle I just laughed in your face..
Actually the markets are simply responding to ingame circumstances, you know as a free market tends to do what with it being free and all. Lower mineral supplys = higher price to build ships = ships cost more, its simple economics. Oh and before you start whining about how we have no idea what effect we're having with the campaigns against miners most of us are well aware that what we're doing has contributed to the increase in prices, we just dont care.
TravisWB wrote:I understand that thinking is hard and may actually cause many of you pain but I'd like you to consider this:
There is a single alliance that on its own has probably somewhere between 100 and 1000 times the economic power of ALL OTHER PLAYERS and player groups combined.
Over the past several years this alliance has suggested this nerf and that nerf and CCP complies.
Eve is broken.
More to the point, EVE IS DEAD.
We exist in the dictat of the Goons.
Welcome to GOONSVERSE. Worship the Mittani or just GTFO.
Oh the tinfoil, the precious precious tinfoil. You do realise that
A) Goons have been pushing for a technitium nerf ever since it was first made into the bottleneck for t2 production
B) even unnerfed as far as I know they dont own a majority of the tech moons in eve (although I cant find very up to date info, if anyone can confirm this I would be grateful)so your economic power statement is total bullshit
C) Goons bitched and whined about just as many of the null changes that went ahead as the ones that got blocked or altered.
For those who have been around for a while.
Theres a simple test I'd like you to try, take the rant above, replace every instance of the word Goons with the word BOB and Mittani with Sir Molle then imagine the year is 2005. Look familiar? |
Ispia Jaydrath
Reib Autonomous Industries
65
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Posted - 2012.05.16 02:27:00 -
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Darek Castigatus wrote:B) even unnerfed as far as I know they dont own a majority of the tech moons in eve (although I cant find very up to date info, if anyone can confirm this I would be grateful)so your economic power statement is total bullshit
According to their balance sheet, goons own 76 tech moons. Estimates of the total number of moons are between 350 and 450. |
Darek Castigatus
Immortalis Inc.
Shadow Cartel
79
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Posted - 2012.05.16 11:40:00 -
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Ispia Jaydrath wrote:Darek Castigatus wrote:B) even unnerfed as far as I know they dont own a majority of the tech moons in eve (although I cant find very up to date info, if anyone can confirm this I would be grateful)so your economic power statement is total bullshit According to their balance sheet, goons own 76 tech moons. Estimates of the total number of moons are between 350 and 450.
thanks, was wondering about the actual numbers :) |
Beckie DeLey
Garoun Investment Bank
Gallente Federation
57
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Posted - 2012.05.16 12:03:00 -
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Alavaria Fera wrote:Sang-in Tiers wrote:I'm playing casually, running missions and trading stuff... what is OP talking about? You're supposed to be bitter about gankers ... and market manipulators?
And T2 BPOs. Never forget the T2 BPOs.
Edit: Also Moon Goo. That's a good one to angst about as well.
It's The Legendary Extraordinary Me |
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CCP Phantom
C C P
C C P Alliance
1299
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Posted - 2012.05.16 16:16:00 -
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Off topic posts removed. Please stay on topic and polite, thank you.
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Ana Vyr
Vyral Technologies
262
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Posted - 2012.05.16 16:47:00 -
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The high sec belts are full of big fat rocks, mineral prices are up...it's hard to complain from where I'm sitting...which at the moment is in a platinum insured Covetor, that nobody has deemed worthy of killing yet.
I have certainly noticed the population decrease though, even in Caldari space. |
Duvida
The Scope
Gallente Federation
77
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Posted - 2012.05.16 16:50:00 -
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Ana Vyr wrote:The high sec belts are full of big fat rocks, mineral prices are up...it's hard to complain from where I'm sitting...which at the moment is in a platinum insured Covetor, that nobody has deemed worthy of killing yet.
I have certainly noticed the population decrease though, even in Caldari space.
So it isn't only me wondering where people have gone? |
Ana Vyr
Vyral Technologies
262
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Posted - 2012.05.16 16:52:00 -
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The systems I operate in have about half the normal population right now, and have been declining for weeks. |
hedge betts Shiyurida
State War Academy
Caldari State
7
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Posted - 2012.05.16 17:17:00 -
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Tinnin Sylph wrote:Confirming that Goons have won at EVE.
Heh.
confirming You're a downer.
Goons have won nothing, but the animosity of anyone not in goonfleet.
Cup the balls, and work the shaft |
Arcelian
Neau Tax
0
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Posted - 2012.05.16 17:31:00 -
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The goons must really be reveling in all this attention.
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ivar R'dhak
STK Scientific
46
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Posted - 2012.05.16 17:40:00 -
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Arcelian wrote:The goons must really be reveling in all this attention. Probably.
Then shortly they will have to start mining .. HA! 
LMAO .. I kill myself 
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Gealbhan
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
140
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Posted - 2012.05.16 17:40:00 -
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What's all this then? Oh, another one of these threads...  |
terrly bronks
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
4
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Posted - 2012.05.16 17:55:00 -
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Ana Vyr wrote:The high sec belts are full of big fat rocks, mineral prices are up...it's hard to complain from where I'm sitting...which at the moment is in a platinum insured Covetor, that nobody has deemed worthy of killing yet.
I have certainly noticed the population decrease though, even in Caldari space.
yep my ice system is just me and me :) was about 60 -80 macks but hey they be back after goon month :)
me eh well I may come back too after :)
just set long skill train and be done lol
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