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Richard Desturned GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation 338	Posted - 2012.05.15 02:45:00 - [61] - Quote ModeratedToSilence wrote: Chokichi Ozuwara wrote: JitaPriceChecker2 wrote: Not everyone has CCP on their side that refuses to tech nerf which "happens"to be a bottleneck and "happens" to be in only few regions that "happens" to be controlled by goons. Goons without tech would be more interesting. They would have to play the game the way the rest of us do. Giving goons credit is embarrassing, for the last 24 months however, they have been advocating a Tech nerf. yes we have the point is to get pubbies to be against a tech nerf because it's the ~goon agenda~ oops eh
Acac Sunflyier Burning Star L.L.C. Dark Phoenix Rising. 153	Posted - 2012.05.15 02:56:00 - [62] - Quote tbh, i'm probably just going to make my isk in dust and send it to my eve character. Sometimes, the best thing to do is have a random moment of compassion.
Copine Callmeknau Kangaroos With Frickin Lazerbeams Ninja Unicorns with Huge Horns 144	Posted - 2012.05.15 03:50:00 - [63] - Quote I'm rich so I don't care There should be a rather awesome pic here
Herzog Wolfhammer Sigma Special Tactics Group 1484	Posted - 2012.05.15 04:44:00 - [64] - Quote Katarina Reid wrote: EVE is getting expensive. Datacores going up making T2 cost more. Minerals making t1 go up. Tech cartel making T2 go up. CCP's new mods being bpc drops making sure they cost alot more. Its funney they are making a war expansion but no one can afford to lose a ship. Should i continue to wait out the high prices or just play with ships i have to grind longer for? It's called "the end of stupid ship loss". Fly smarter not harder.
Alavaria Fera GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation 733	Posted - 2012.05.15 06:52:00 - [65] - Quote JitaPriceChecker2 wrote: Lipbite wrote: I didn't login for 7 months and upon returning found some ship prices inflated by 60% (obelisk: 680m => 1100m). Game becomes less suitable for casual hi-sec players whos income isn't based on interactions with other players - i.e. missioners. Oh yeah as if you need trillions isk for your expenses if you just intend to casually log in in hi sec. Hardcore freightering action ~ Those who cannot adapt become victims of Evolugalbugaslugakjlwsdhvbzxd
Alavaria Fera GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation 733	Posted - 2012.05.15 06:53:00 - [66] - Quote Richard Desturned wrote: ModeratedToSilence wrote: Chokichi Ozuwara wrote: JitaPriceChecker2 wrote: Not everyone has CCP on their side that refuses to tech nerf which "happens"to be a bottleneck and "happens" to be in only few regions that "happens" to be controlled by goons. Goons without tech would be more interesting. They would have to play the game the way the rest of us do. Giving goons credit is embarrassing, for the last 24 months however, they have been advocating a Tech nerf. yes we have the point is to get pubbies to be against a tech nerf because it's the ~goon agenda~oops PL, NC., Ev0ke and the rest might be interested in talking with you about them being goons ... Those who cannot adapt become victims of Evolugalbugaslugakjlwsdhvbzxd
Rico Minali Sons Of 0din Fatal Ascension 632	Posted - 2012.05.15 06:55:00 - [67] - Quote Making Isk is easier than ever, go make some isk. Trust me, I almost know what I'm doing.
Richard Desturned GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation 343	Posted - 2012.05.15 06:57:00 - [68] - Quote Alavaria Fera wrote: PL, NC., Ev0ke and the rest might be interested in talking with you about them being goons ... you haven't seen the rampant conspiracy theories around our support of a tech nerf have you eh
Simi Kusoni HelloKittyFanclub 990	Posted - 2012.05.15 07:19:00 - [69] - Quote Richard Desturned wrote: Alavaria Fera wrote: PL, NC., Ev0ke and the rest might be interested in talking with you about them being goons ... you haven't seen the rampant conspiracy theories around our support of a tech nerf have you Ahh, I love the goon conspiracy theories you get popping up on these forums. I swear if high sec miners put half the creativity they put into coming up with goon conspiracy theories, into actually going through with conspiracies of their own, then they'd be the most powerful force in Eve. "I don't troll, I just give overly blunt responses that annoy people who are wrong but don't want to admit it. It's not my fault that people have sensitive feelings"-á-á-MXZF
Marlona Sky Massive PVPness Psychotic Tendencies. 954	Posted - 2012.05.15 07:27:00 - [70] - Quote Quote: Ship loss should have meaning! Quote: Ships are too expensive! sigh Remove local, structure mails and revamp the directional scanner!
Simi Kusoni HelloKittyFanclub 990	Posted - 2012.05.15 07:30:00 - [71] - Quote Marlona Sky wrote: Quote: Ship loss should have meaning! Quote: Ships are too expensive! sigh Wow, quoting the opinions of two different people, to show that they differ. There was much point to this post. "I don't troll, I just give overly blunt responses that annoy people who are wrong but don't want to admit it. It's not my fault that people have sensitive feelings"-á-á-MXZF
JitaPriceChecker2 State War Academy Caldari State 148	Posted - 2012.05.15 07:38:00 - [72] - Quote ModeratedToSilence wrote: Chokichi Ozuwara wrote: JitaPriceChecker2 wrote: Not everyone has CCP on their side that refuses to tech nerf which "happens"to be a bottleneck and "happens" to be in only few regions that "happens" to be controlled by goons. Goons without tech would be more interesting. They would have to play the game the way the rest of us do. Giving goons credit is embarrassing, for the last 24 months however, they have been advocating a Tech nerf. Advocating is just for show. Do you see any nerf coming this expansion ???
Richard Desturned GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation 343	Posted - 2012.05.15 07:43:00 - [73] - Quote JitaPriceChecker2 wrote: ModeratedToSilence wrote: Chokichi Ozuwara wrote: JitaPriceChecker2 wrote: Not everyone has CCP on their side that refuses to tech nerf which "happens"to be a bottleneck and "happens" to be in only few regions that "happens" to be controlled by goons. Goons without tech would be more interesting. They would have to play the game the way the rest of us do. Giving goons credit is embarrassing, for the last 24 months however, they have been advocating a Tech nerf. Advocating is just for show. Do you see any nerf coming this expansion ??? the more sensible players (i.e. those who don't hide behind NPC alts) believe that the tech nerf needs to be accomplished in a way that doesn't simply make another moon mineral the new bottleneck personally I feel that ytterbium's ship balancing thing should lead to the currently underused T2 hulls (i.e. those that are not amarr/minmatar) being viable PvP platforms, allowing for T2 production to be reworked to depend on racial moon minerals to produce components for individual racial T2 hulls, balancing the demand for racial R32 minerals basically death2bottlenecks eh
Vaju Enki Secular Wisdom 32	Posted - 2012.05.15 09:49:00 - [74] - Quote This is not a theme park mmo, fly T1 ships. If you want instant gratification, go stimulate your genitals. EvE is Hard, deal with it.
Spurty D00M. Northern Coalition. 266	Posted - 2012.05.15 10:28:00 - [75] - Quote It's a game. Games are fun when all players agree on the rules. Rules agreed on. Game on! ---- CONCORD arrested two n00bs yesterday, one was drinking battery acid, the other was eating fireworks. They charged one and let the other one off.
Didier Nardieu Mining Express 6	Posted - 2012.05.15 12:40:00 - [76] - Quote High price less gank ! its better for us.. too much players think their ships are kleenex !
Takseen University of Caille Gallente Federation 181	Posted - 2012.05.15 12:47:00 - [77] - Quote Herzog Wolfhammer wrote: Katarina Reid wrote: EVE is getting expensive. Datacores going up making T2 cost more. Minerals making t1 go up. Tech cartel making T2 go up. CCP's new mods being bpc drops making sure they cost alot more. Its funney they are making a war expansion but no one can afford to lose a ship. Should i continue to wait out the high prices or just play with ships i have to grind longer for? It's called "the end of stupid ship loss". Fly smarter not harder. You can't have meaningful wars without someone losing their ships, no matter how hard or smart they're flying. Shame they never got around to buffing T1 cruisers, now would be their time to shine.
Takseen University of Caille Gallente Federation 181	Posted - 2012.05.15 12:48:00 - [78] - Quote JitaPriceChecker2 wrote: Sister Rhode wrote: You mean to say your alliance/corp doesn't reimburse your pvp ships? Jeese, that must suck. Not everyone has CCP on their side that refuses to tech nerf which "happens"to be a bottleneck and "happens" to be in only few regions that "happens" to be controlled by goons. Didn't Goons lose all their moons a while back? And then took them back again later?
Sentient Blade Walk It Off Imperial Ascension 373	Posted - 2012.05.15 13:13:00 - [79] - Quote The biggest issue I see with price inflation is it creates a barrier for entry for newer entities vs older, more established ones which already have a few hundred billion (or trillion) in ships and assets. There are of course some strategies to compete; stealth bomber wings used against Tier 3 / Battleship gangs, but ultimately it's going to come down to conventional warfare where the change in situations means that one group has become embedded, where as the other has had a penalty placed upon them. The same goes for new players wanting to try new parts of the game; with even T1 cruisers costing more, and god forbid a level 3 missioning battlecruiser, I don't see how runaway inflation is positive.
Skydell Space Mermaids Somethin Awfull Forums 265	Posted - 2012.05.15 15:37:00 - [80] - Quote Selinate wrote: JitaPriceChecker2 wrote: Katarina Reid wrote: EVE is getting expensive Good. This will combat game inflation. No... it won't... it's not an isk sink... Give it up Selinate. People have been trying and failing to beat that through thick heads for 9 years.
Herzog Wolfhammer Sigma Special Tactics Group 1485	Posted - 2012.05.15 16:36:00 - [81] - Quote Takseen wrote: Herzog Wolfhammer wrote: Katarina Reid wrote: EVE is getting expensive. Datacores going up making T2 cost more. Minerals making t1 go up. Tech cartel making T2 go up. CCP's new mods being bpc drops making sure they cost alot more. Its funney they are making a war expansion but no one can afford to lose a ship. Should i continue to wait out the high prices or just play with ships i have to grind longer for? It's called "the end of stupid ship loss". Fly smarter not harder. You can't have meaningful wars without someone losing their ships, no matter how hard or smart they're flying. Shame they never got around to buffing T1 cruisers, now would be their time to shine. My point is, the "blob and get blobbed" tactics involving battle ships was and will always be dumb. Now it's getting expensive. That's good. Do you field expensive stuff unsupported by other ships in their necessary support roles and no intel? The way it was (or is for those who don't get the memo or still have a lot of ISK) is to just send in blobs of battleships and then decide if they have to run later, usually by being out-blobbed or finding out the hard way they are up against frigates that can deal lots of damage and outrun their turrets. No, don't bring some destroyers or assault frigate support. No, don't use intel and research. Just get in the BS at the "spawn point" and when you get popped, respawn and get into another battleship and repeat. Why not just play Call of Duty instead? Now instead of "we want only l33t players with at least 50M SP who can fly all T2 equipped BS", perhaps those lesser skilled destroyer, cruiser, and frig captains would be of more use? (Goons, as much as we are required to hate them, understand this). Do armies take their main battle tanks, to the tune of tens of millions of dollars each, and just send them into the field without ground and air support? Do fighter-bombers just cross into enemy airspace without intel about the available AA in the field? If main battle tanks cost only a million bucks or so, as well as fighter jets, and the crews respawned, perhaps so. This game is simply becoming more of what everybody likes to fluff their e-peens over: a "hard game so HTFU or go back to WOW!!!1!!! Marsha Marsha Marsha I hate being a middle child!!!1!!emo rant rage!!!1!" If not being able to be all twinked up bothers some people around here, we all know where WoW is, right?
Ferroto Baggins Wildly Inappropriate Goonswarm Federation 0	Posted - 2012.05.15 16:38:00 - [82] - Quote What were seeing here is inflation caused by increasing the ISK supply. the ISK supply gets increased whenever you do missions, rat, do incursions you know anything isk generation methods that doesn't involve buying\selling on the markets items that were created by players. Each time the value of ISK gets cut in half it takes only half the time for it to happen again. eventually we will start to see hyperinflation in eve online. Mineral prices are only up due to this inflation people should be buying minerals\trade goods etc... to protect themselves from this inflation.
Ferroto Baggins Wildly Inappropriate Goonswarm Federation 0	Posted - 2012.05.15 16:39:00 - [83] - Quote double post
Takseen University of Caille Gallente Federation 181	Posted - 2012.05.15 17:02:00 - [84] - Quote Ferroto Baggins wrote: What were seeing here is inflation caused by increasing the ISK supply. the ISK supply gets increased whenever you do missions, rat, do incursions you know anything isk generation methods that doesn't involve buying\selling on the markets items that were created by players. Each time the value of ISK gets cut in half it takes only half the time for it to happen again. eventually we will start to see hyperinflation in eve online. Mineral prices are only up due to this inflation people should be buying minerals\trade goods etc... to protect themselves from this inflation. Yep, its the money supply. Definitely nothing to do with drone region nerf, Meta 0 drop nerf, and the recent Hulkageddon.
Takseen University of Caille Gallente Federation 181	Posted - 2012.05.15 17:14:00 - [85] - Quote @Herzog Yes, more ship hulls being used would be nice. But you gotta admit T1 cruisers are pretty lousy atm. If people blob with only one type of ship, its because it works.
Hakaru Ishiwara Republic Military School Minmatar Republic 118	Posted - 2012.05.15 17:26:00 - [86] - Quote JitaPriceChecker2 wrote: Katarina Reid wrote: EVE is getting expensive Good. This will combat game inflation. Not everyone suppose to fly top tier ships. Dont fly what you cant afford to lose. CCP is going to rebalance smaller ships to make them usefull ( i suggest them to read this thread - https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=105499&find=unread ) That is a quaint notion. Thousands upon thousands of players have been training to fly those nifty, top-tier ships over the years. They have high-ISK clones and maybe sets of bling implants. The ever-present "next thing" is one of the main reasons for sticking with the game and either paying for a sub or buying PLEX's off of some other scrub. You are proposing that people currently flying skill-intensive battleships, tech 3 cruisers, command ships, etc. move back down the food chain into frigates and destroyers because CCP can't design its way out of the gutter? 284 Characters 284 Characters 284 Characters 284 Characters 284 Characters 284 Characters 284 Characters 284 Characters 284 Characters 284 Characters 284 Characters 284 Characters 284 Characters 284 Characters 284 Characters 284 Characters 284 Characters 284 Characters ~~284~~286
bongsmoke School of Applied Knowledge Caldari State 2	Posted - 2012.05.15 17:28:00 - [87] - Quote Katarina Reid wrote: EVE is getting expensive. Datacores going up making T2 cost more. Minerals making t1 go up. Tech cartel making T2 go up. CCP's new mods being bpc drops making sure they cost alot more. Its funney they are making a war expansion but no one can afford to lose a ship. Should i continue to wait out the high prices or just play with ships i have to grind longer for? Your missing the point, CCP wants your to purchases plexes, that is all.
Hakaru Ishiwara Republic Military School Minmatar Republic 119	Posted - 2012.05.15 18:12:00 - [88] - Quote bongsmoke wrote: Katarina Reid wrote: EVE is getting expensive. Datacores going up making T2 cost more. Minerals making t1 go up. Tech cartel making T2 go up. CCP's new mods being bpc drops making sure they cost alot more. Its funney they are making a war expansion but no one can afford to lose a ship. Should i continue to wait out the high prices or just play with ships i have to grind longer for? Your missing the point, CCP wants your to purchases plexes, that is all. What this man writes is true, but what CCP is missing is that they need to ensure that the tools to create amazing content are in-place and or fancy toys are compelling enough to want to buy GTCs or PLEX. Will Inferno deliver such things? 284 Characters 284 Characters 284 Characters 284 Characters 284 Characters 284 Characters 284 Characters 284 Characters 284 Characters 284 Characters 284 Characters 284 Characters 284 Characters 284 Characters 284 Characters 284 Characters 284 Characters 284 Characters ~~284~~286
Simi Kusoni HelloKittyFanclub 990	Posted - 2012.05.15 18:21:00 - [89] - Quote Hakaru Ishiwara wrote: JitaPriceChecker2 wrote: Katarina Reid wrote: EVE is getting expensive Good. This will combat game inflation. Not everyone suppose to fly top tier ships. Dont fly what you cant afford to lose. CCP is going to rebalance smaller ships to make them usefull ( i suggest them to read this thread - https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=105499&find=unread ) That is a quaint notion. Thousands upon thousands of players have been training to fly those nifty, top-tier ships over the years. They have high-ISK clones and maybe sets of bling implants. The ever-present "next thing" is one of the main reasons for sticking with the game and either paying for a sub or buying PLEX's off of some other scrub. You are proposing that people currently flying skill-intensive battleships, tech 3 cruisers, command ships, etc. move back down the food chain into frigates and destroyers because CCP can't design its way out of the gutter? The same principles apply to mudflation as apply to buying SP, instant gratification is generally bad. Players may believe they want instantly accessible ships, but when given them they tend to get bored as they have nothing left to aim for in game. When a ship holds value, when it takes time to work for and you constantly have something to work toward... That is the "hook" that makes games like Eve addictive. Instant gratification, whether in the form of free skill points or cheap "top-tier" ships, is generally detrimental to any game world. Plenty of MMOs have fallen victim to mudflation over the years, Eve was headed in that direction. I for one am glad CCP is pulling us back from the brink. "I don't troll, I just give overly blunt responses that annoy people who are wrong but don't want to admit it. It's not my fault that people have sensitive feelings"-á-á-MXZF
Hakaru Ishiwara Republic Military School Minmatar Republic 119	Posted - 2012.05.15 18:37:00 - [90] - Quote Simi Kusoni wrote: Hakaru Ishiwara wrote: JitaPriceChecker2 wrote: Katarina Reid wrote: EVE is getting expensive Good. This will combat game inflation. Not everyone suppose to fly top tier ships. Dont fly what you cant afford to lose. CCP is going to rebalance smaller ships to make them usefull ( i suggest them to read this thread - https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=105499&find=unread ) That is a quaint notion. Thousands upon thousands of players have been training to fly those nifty, top-tier ships over the years. They have high-ISK clones and maybe sets of bling implants. The ever-present "next thing" is one of the main reasons for sticking with the game and either paying for a sub or buying PLEX's off of some other scrub. You are proposing that people currently flying skill-intensive battleships, tech 3 cruisers, command ships, etc. move back down the food chain into frigates and destroyers because CCP can't design its way out of the gutter? The same principles apply to mudflation as apply to buying SP, instant gratification is generally bad. Players may believe they want instantly accessible ships, but when given them they tend to get bored as they have nothing left to aim for in game. When a ship holds value, when it takes time to work for and you constantly have something to work toward... That is the "hook" that makes games like Eve addictive. Instant gratification, whether in the form of free skill points or cheap "top-tier" ships, is generally detrimental to any game world. Plenty of MMOs have fallen victim to mudflation over the years, Eve was headed in that direction. I for one am glad CCP is pulling us back from the brink. I can only buy into this logic up to a point. I am in agreement that goals and difficult-to-reach targets drive player involvement. Where you lose me is when we want or need these higher-tier ships for PvP activities. There is little-to-no boredom involved with having a carrier or three filled with the tools for PvP for which we have spent years training. I look at my assets and I am pleased that I can be prepared for fleet activities. It is as simple as that. 284 Characters 284 Characters 284 Characters 284 Characters 284 Characters 284 Characters 284 Characters 284 Characters 284 Characters 284 Characters 284 Characters 284 Characters 284 Characters 284 Characters 284 Characters 284 Characters 284 Characters 284 Characters ~~284~~286

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