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Duries Kain
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Posted - 2009.06.05 19:19:00 -
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Sorry in advance if this is in the wrong section.
What is faction warfare like these days? I have been thinking about getting into it.
After an intense battleship battle with over 50 battleships on the Singularity testing faction warfare it seemed very interesting, but what is it like on Tranquility?
Any advice would be much appreciated, thanks.
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Sun Clausewitz
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Posted - 2009.06.05 19:52:00 -
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Currently it is over... Caldari won.
Normally it is a Caldari fleet of T1 Frigs and Dessies dodging T2 and BS gate camps by the galls trying to find small ships to fight. Gall's refusing to fight so the Caldari ended up running plexes hoping it would force the Frogs into small ships to come fight them. Alas, the Frogs refuse to fight at plexes and insist on gate camps and uber blobs, so the Caldari took all the systems and have won FW.
We are all currently awaiting CCP to finish scratchin their heads and decide wtf they are going to do now!
Pick Three: Caldari/PVP/Solo/Success |
Mutnin
Mutineers
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Posted - 2009.06.05 20:07:00 -
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Originally by: Sun Clausewitz Currently it is over... Caldari won.
now!
Umm there is much more to FW than just Caldari plexing.. There is also the Amarr vs Minmatar fronts. If you think FW is about plexing you should go back to running missions or something. |
Duries Kain
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Posted - 2009.06.05 20:14:00 -
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The fight that I had was at a 'plex' I think, a control bunker you have to capture is that right?
Are there loads of falcons involved? What size are the gangs roughly? Are they small **** or battleships?
I'd love oldschool fights at a bunker where there is no docking / jumping through. That would be epic. |
Val Erian
Gallente Azure Horizon Federate Militia
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Posted - 2009.06.05 20:18:00 -
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http://www.eveonline.com/devblog.asp?a=blog&bid=563
Should read that about basic FW mechanics.
As for Sun C. I am trying to decide whether he is a troll or just an ill informed idiot.
FW fights are ongoing in the Gallente/Caldari front and also on the Minnie/Ammar one. |
Duries Kain
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Posted - 2009.06.05 20:26:00 -
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Originally by: Val Erian http://www.eveonline.com/devblog.asp?a=blog&bid=563
Should read that about basic FW mechanics.
As for Sun C. I am trying to decide whether he is a troll or just an ill informed idiot.
FW fights are ongoing in the Gallente/Caldari front and also on the Minnie/Ammar one.
Thankyou that link was very useful.
Would you say it is still worth joining Faction Warfare if I want some nice battleship fights? |
Invelious
Amarr Deus Imperiosus Acies
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Posted - 2009.06.05 21:16:00 -
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Sadly, if people realised how profitable it is to cap minmatar plex's to convert it to mods from a Amarr LP store, then we would see alot more people in the Amarr Militia capping these minnie plexs, and pvping and killing the minnies coming into the plexs. theres risk but the rewards are huge, problem is too many people are lazy.
More isk for me I guess
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David Caldera
Gallente Strix Armaments and Defence
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Posted - 2009.06.05 21:28:00 -
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Originally by: Val Erian http://www.eveonline.com/devblog.asp?a=blog&bid=563
Should read that about basic FW mechanics.
As for Sun C. I am trying to decide whether he is a troll or just an ill informed idiot.
FW fights are ongoing in the Gallente/Caldari front and also on the Minnie/Ammar one.
I read that, and noticed something very funny.
Quote: For now, this produces no effects outside of the warfare mechanics, but once the system settles down and we get a good handle on the way things play out in the real world, we have the opportunity to give it more significant impact without risking seriously unbalancing other areas of the game.
So does that mean the Caldari just shot themselves in the foot by making sure they cannot be rewarded? This is not meant as a troll, nor as a way to try to ridicule the Caldari successes lately, but still...
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Duries Kain
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Posted - 2009.06.05 23:28:00 -
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General consensus is that FW is a lot of fun, and the fights are great so I am looking forward to trying it.
Does anyone have more tips on FW? Am I making a mistake going into it? |
Steve Hawkings
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Posted - 2009.06.06 02:45:00 -
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Edited by: Steve Hawkings on 06/06/2009 02:47:00
Originally by: Sun Clausewitz Currently it is over... Caldari won.
you have to fight to win, and its not over anyway lol |
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Parmenides Elea
Gallente Wrath of Fenris
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Posted - 2009.06.06 08:54:00 -
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Faction war is great fun. So much more targets available than anywhere else in the game. You can log in and get a fight normally within minutes. If you plan to join the gallente faction please don't bother reading the forums though, the rubbish that certain caldari spew forth on here is soul destroying.
For the benefit of sun c. and others, YOU CANNOT WIN FW! We can always take back the systems you have occupied. If once captured there was no way to take them back you would have won sure, but we CAN take them back and so FW has been designed to never end.
Next falsehood is about plexes the best place to find pvp. 22nd, who I think we can all agree are amongst the best plexers in the game, have an alltime kills of 2826. Compare that with WOLFY's all time kills of 7035. Now if plexing was indeed the best place to find pvp those stats would be reversed wouldn't they?
Now if we could just get on with the fun of playing internet spaceships with each other instead of all of this "I won!", "Play the game my way or STFU!" nonesense life would be grand. |
Sun Clausewitz
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Posted - 2009.06.07 16:02:00 -
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Originally by: Parmenides Elea
Next falsehood is about plexes the best place to find pvp. 22nd, who I think we can all agree are amongst the best plexers in the game, have an alltime kills of 2826. Compare that with WOLFY's all time kills of 7035. Now if plexing was indeed the best place to find pvp those stats would be reversed wouldn't they?
Blobbing gates does not a great PVP corp make |
Atraxerxes
Caldari 22nd Black Rise Defensive Unit
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Posted - 2009.06.07 22:23:00 -
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FW is good fun for a temporary change to your daily EVE life.
Be advised that; You will go broke. And it will ruin your standings with the opposing faction and greatly boost your standing with the faction you are fighting for, if you play it to it's full extent. Meaning you run FW complexes.
Other than that it's a good way to get very regular fleet ops and war targets to shoot at.
However due to lag issues in low sec large battles can be less than enjoyable and small gang warfare has become harder, but not impossible to find.
Your hardest job will be finding a group of pilots or corp to ship out with regularly, as quite a few of the better FW corps tend to stick together.
AX
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Hadrielloress
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Posted - 2009.06.08 00:05:00 -
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Edited by: Hadrielloress on 08/06/2009 00:06:12
Originally by: Sun Clausewitz Currently it is over... Caldari won.
Normally it is a Caldari fleet of T1 Frigs and Dessies dodging T2 and BS gate camps by the galls trying to find small ships to fight. Gall's refusing to fight so the Caldari ended up running plexes hoping it would force the Frogs into small ships to come fight them. Alas, the Frogs refuse to fight at plexes and insist on gate camps and uber blobs, so the Caldari took all the systems and have won FW.
We are all currently awaiting CCP to finish scratchin their heads and decide wtf they are going to do now!
So they were more then willing to engage in fight? And by your own admission Caldari did not want to. And you wanted them to use cheap ships? Why didnt you grow a pair and bring your own T2 ships, seems to me they were not afraid to actually RISK their ships. Wow this is sad.
This has to be the lamest logic ever. Caldari should have manned up and Tried to break the gate camps or put up some kind of real fight. All it highlights is how ineffective at PVP Caldari is. Good job showing everyone that Caldari pilots can only PvE. |
Blacksquirrel
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Posted - 2009.06.08 03:52:00 -
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So this character hasn't joined any militia yet do I have to join my own races...or can I join any factions as long as I have an ok standing with them?
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Opera Noir
Amarr State Protectorate
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Posted - 2009.06.08 05:29:00 -
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Originally by: Blacksquirrel So this character hasn't joined any militia yet do I have to join my own races...or can I join any factions as long as I have an ok standing with them?
Standing of .5 or higher is all you need. YOu could even join the Minmatar if you felt so inclined to treason.
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Killiashandra Ree
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Posted - 2009.06.08 16:35:00 -
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Originally by: Atraxerxes
And it will ruin your standings with the opposing faction and greatly boost your standing with the faction you are fighting for, if you play it to it's full extent. Meaning you run FW complexes.
Which looks like a great idea if you need to go to Jita to replace/refit a lost ship and you're not in the Caldari militia. Seems CCP didn't really think this one through. |
Pamela Kamela
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Posted - 2009.06.08 17:08:00 -
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well... fw get's boring on amarr/minmatards side. it's a onesided thing. we amarrians are bashing minnis asses hard and their fleets start forming slower and slower. it's getting anoying that they are that bad :( most of 'em are carebearing to compensate the losses.
well...
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Admiral Perimeter
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Posted - 2009.06.08 17:50:00 -
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Originally by: Killiashandra Ree
Which looks like a great idea if you need to go to Jita to replace/refit a lost ship and you're not in the Caldari militia. Seems CCP didn't really think this one through.
Because Jita is the only market hub in the entire game amirite?
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Deryk Blacke
Minmatar VirDan Industries
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Posted - 2009.06.08 18:07:00 -
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Originally by: Pamela Kamela well... fw get's boring on amarr/minmatards side. it's a onesided thing. we amarrians are bashing minnis asses hard and their fleets start forming slower and slower. it's getting anoying that they are that bad :( most of 'em are carebearing to compensate the losses.
well...
The Amarr have the least number of pilots. The Amarr have the least number of kills. They have 40k more VP than the Minmatar, but earned 4k less VP last week than the Minmatar. The Amarr have the third least number of systems, and if the Gallente had not given up on them - the Amarr would have had the least there as well.
Face it, while the Amarr sit in their stations knitting tea cozies and trading T2 recipes for baked apple pie - the Minmatar have been forced to hunt down pirates, go kill Caldari, and make trips into 0.0 to avoid the boredom offered by the Amarr. |
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Killiashandra Ree
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Posted - 2009.06.08 18:12:00 -
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Originally by: Admiral Perimeter
Originally by: Killiashandra Ree
Which looks like a great idea if you need to go to Jita to replace/refit a lost ship and you're not in the Caldari militia. Seems CCP didn't really think this one through.
Because Jita is the only market hub in the entire game amirite?
You are quite correct.
OFC you could get your stuffs in Dodi/Rens etc, but then why should Caldari Militia get an implicit 10-30%* discount for replacing their losses?
*(approx profit I make from moving certain popular goods from Jita to Dodi f.ex) |
Pamela Kamela
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Posted - 2009.06.08 18:14:00 -
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Edited by: Pamela Kamela on 08/06/2009 18:14:55
Originally by: Deryk Blacke
Originally by: Pamela Kamela well... fw get's boring on amarr/minmatards side. it's a onesided thing. we amarrians are bashing minnis asses hard and their fleets start forming slower and slower. it's getting anoying that they are that bad :( most of 'em are carebearing to compensate the losses.
well...
The Amarr have the least number of pilots. The Amarr have the least number of kills. They have 40k more VP than the Minmatar, but earned 4k less VP last week than the Minmatar. The Amarr have the third least number of systems, and if the Gallente had not given up on them - the Amarr would have had the least there as well.
Face it, while the Amarr sit in their stations knitting tea cozies and trading T2 recipes for baked apple pie - the Minmatar have been forced to hunt down pirates, go kill Caldari, and make trips into 0.0 to avoid the boredom offered by the Amarr.
ROFL! so maybe you think you can form your nice little dreams about pwning amarr with a couple of statistics, wich are obsolete. BUT as we speak the minmatards are pulling back their fleet wich had more and bigger ships in it. whatta a pity that you can hide in osoggur all the time and we have to farm the poor noobs, wich make 99% of your poor slavemilita, in amamake :( |
Hadrielloress
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Posted - 2009.06.08 19:48:00 -
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Originally by: Pamela Kamela well... fw get's boring on amarr/minmatards side. it's a onesided thing. we amarrians are bashing minnis asses hard and their fleets start forming slower and slower. it's getting anoying that they are that bad :( most of 'em are carebearing to compensate the losses.
well...
Wow reality isn't an amarr strong point I see.
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Pamela Kamela
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Posted - 2009.06.08 20:34:00 -
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Edited by: Pamela Kamela on 08/06/2009 20:36:05 oh my... with a gang of 30 vs 50 in amamake and minmatards don't dare to fight us. maybe they are busy painting hello kitty pix and laughing and dancing and huggin' @the highsec station in oso.
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Pamela Kamela
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Posted - 2009.06.08 20:42:00 -
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reporting in. the minmatards were 52 we were 36. they were too few to match us so they cried to cry havoc to help 'em. poor minnis... :( |
Anddeh McNab
Cadre Assault Force
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Posted - 2009.06.08 21:03:00 -
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Originally by: Pamela Kamela reporting in. the minmatards were 52 we were 36. they were too few to match us so they cried to cry havoc to help 'em. poor minnis... :(
I play my CareMode card face down in attack mode. A little in character is ok but seriously, don't come onto the forums and smack talk.
Back on topic, FW is a little slow atm; from a minmatar point of view. This is probably due to it being summer and people losing a bit more interest in FW. It's still good fun though :)
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Pamela Kamela
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Posted - 2009.06.09 14:54:00 -
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Edited by: Pamela Kamela on 09/06/2009 14:54:47 well ok. didnt wanted to be that harsh BUT: the minnis don't dare to fight us. even if we are outgunned and outnumbered? what's the plan behind this? we tried to engage a minni fleet. we tried to engage them at a bunker, we tried to engage them at a planet. we convoed their fc so HE should decide where we meet. again: we were outnumbered and outgunned but eager to fight. what did the minnis do? they camped the amamake gate in osoggur... what's the point in all that? are the minnis such wheenies who don't dare to lose a ship?
If a fc in our fleets calls for a retreat you hear 99% of the gang members in vent: "if we run from them, i'll instant drop gang -.-".
why don't you wanna fight? we dropped fleet yesterday after 1 hours of waiting, while the minnis were carebearing in oso... do you want to kill us by boredom?
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Deryk Blacke
Minmatar VirDan Industries
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Posted - 2009.06.09 16:23:00 -
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The Amarr - http://www.amarr-empire.net/killboard/
The Minmatar - http://www.minmatar-militia.org/kb/?a=home
Look at the top killers. Look at the top points.
Face it, the Amarr are so busy hiding while knitting tea cozies; the Minmatar are off fighting pirates and Caldari.
Look at the front of the Amarr board, check out some of those green kills - battlecruisers and cruisers taking out frigates.
Face it, most of the Amarr undock at the same time when Minmatar numbers are low - fly around - then complain about not being able to find a fight.
When we undock and you guys are not about, we go find something to kill... |
Jenna Side
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Posted - 2009.06.09 17:51:00 -
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wtf!! who invited minmatar and amarr to our threads of whine and troll about faction war !!
just kidding knock yourself out |
Illuvian
Tribal Special Operations
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Posted - 2009.06.09 20:27:00 -
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Originally by: Pamela Kamela Edited by: Pamela Kamela on 09/06/2009 14:54:47 well ok. didnt wanted to be that harsh BUT: the minnis don't dare to fight us. even if we are outgunned and outnumbered? what's the plan behind this? we tried to engage a minni fleet. we tried to engage them at a bunker, we tried to engage them at a planet. we convoed their fc so HE should decide where we meet. again: we were outnumbered and outgunned but eager to fight. what did the minnis do? they camped the amamake gate in osoggur... what's the point in all that? are the minnis such wheenies who don't dare to lose a ship?
If a fc in our fleets calls for a retreat you hear 99% of the gang members in vent: "if we run from them, i'll instant drop gang -.-".
why don't you wanna fight? we dropped fleet yesterday after 1 hours of waiting, while the minnis were carebearing in oso... do you want to kill us by boredom?
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