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Benco97
Gallente
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Posted - 2009.06.08 00:11:00 -
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I just had to deliver a few items around eve for a corpmate and my path took me through Cistuvaert twice, now being that I am originally from the CAS in that system and I was in quite a good mood I freely offered 50 million isk to the first relatively new player who belonged to the CAS as a small gift in order to help them along. The only people that replied to me were neither new nor from the CAS (One was actually Amarr, those sneaks..) and after a little chat I gave them the isk anyway for at least trying and off I went on my merry way (The orca having just aligned  ).
Now, on my way back I again stated that as I was in a good mood I was going to give away free isk for as long as I was in the system and again the only two people who replied were the two previously, they told me that it is likely that nobody of the 70+ in the system were actually reading local. I was astounded and left the system quite perturbed, are people so wary of being scammed that even the very newest newbies don't chat casually in local and accept cash gifts anymore? Sometimes people really are just trying to be nice.
What do you think about the situation? Genuine concern for scammers or did they just think I was shifty due to my (only slightly now) negative standing? |
Alexandra Knight
Gallente
Federal Navy Academy
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Posted - 2009.06.08 00:14:00 -
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I'll take any spare isk you have, i AM Gallente at least  |
PBBDuality
Gallente
University of Caille
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Posted - 2009.06.08 00:16:00 -
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As long as I am not giving anything in order to receive money - I consider it scam free. I am 100 million better off thanks to one kind individual :)
I did, of course, petition it to ensure that it was not purchased ISK being offloaded - but coming up to a week with no response (and no ISK disappearing from my wallet) I'm just spending it and taking it as a gift from a nice player :) |
Jin Nib
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Posted - 2009.06.08 00:16:00 -
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Neither, they're n00bs and they are afraid of interacting with people. Local is esspecaily fearsome because they probably have it tabbed rather then a second window and they figure anything anyone says on it is probably garbage/bot/spam anyways. |
Verx Interis
Amarr
Embers of Fire
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Posted - 2009.06.08 00:24:00 -
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If you're handing out free ISK I'll take some.
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Khemul Zula
Amarr
Keisen Trade League
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Posted - 2009.06.08 00:30:00 -
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Edited by: Khemul Zula on 08/06/2009 00:32:12
One of my alts is Gallente. Does that count towards free ISK? 
(Okay so it is Intaki, but that should still count...  )
As for the content, I'd say Jin Nib is probably right on that.
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Sharp Feather
Gallente
Aliastra
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Posted - 2009.06.08 00:31:00 -
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Im a noob, and Im gallente, and Im in a nub corp... so yeah, feel free to be generous to me if you ever like it again! 
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Vaal Erit
Science and Trade Institute
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Posted - 2009.06.08 02:35:00 -
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Because noob NPC corps are not full of new players, but long time mission runners that don't want anything to do with anyone else. |
Enraku Reynolt
Minmatar
Mid Knights
Wildly Inappropriate.
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Posted - 2009.06.08 03:38:00 -
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the failure in the "scamming is legal" thing is that there is nothing to limit people trying them, so you get so many they choke every market venue
and then no one belives or trusts anyone
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Jin Nib
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Posted - 2009.06.08 03:51:00 -
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 Originally by: Enraku Reynolt
the failure in the "scamming is legal" thing is that there is nothing to limit people trying them, so you get so many they choke every market venue
and then no one belives or trusts anyone
The obvious solution to that is to make spamming punishable, or simply moderate them out. There really is no need to have Jita local have 3/4 of the chat 4 bots and all spam.
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Trustworthy Joe
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Posted - 2009.06.08 06:24:00 -
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Originally by: Jin Nib
Originally by: Enraku Reynolt
the failure in the "scamming is legal" thing is that there is nothing to limit people trying them, so you get so many they choke every market venue
and then no one belives or trusts anyone
The obvious solution to that is to make spamming punishable, or simply moderate them out. There really is no need to have Jita local have 3/4 of the chat FOR bots and all spam.
fixed.
and also, while i think that spamming is a problem, i feel a better solution is just an automute feature, where if you repeat the same line 3-4 times, you get blocked
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Jin Nib
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Posted - 2009.06.08 06:31:00 -
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Originally by: Trustworthy Joe
Originally by: Jin Nib
Originally by: Enraku Reynolt
the failure in the "scamming is legal" thing is that there is nothing to limit people trying them, so you get so many they choke every market venue
and then no one belives or trusts anyone
The obvious solution to that is to make spamming punishable, or simply moderate them out. There really is no need to have Jita local have 3/4 of the chat FOR bots and all spam.
fixed.
and also, while i think that spamming is a problem, i feel a better solution is just an automute feature, where if you repeat the same line 3-4 times, you get blocked
Yeah my post was a mess, what I meant by 4 was that there are 4 characters responsible for 3/4 of the posts. What I meant by moderation was to set filters to get rid of reapeating lines and posters who are obviously no human. Seriously if it steps on any real persons toes they would just petition it, and filtering would stop alot more greif and annoyance then it causes. |
Mistress Aranata
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Posted - 2009.06.08 06:44:00 -
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When I first started, the local and corp channel were always full of isk selling spam, so I turned the blink off. Don't think I interacted with anybody for the first couple of weeks. I changed that after I realised my pod had been ransomed for 1 isk and I didn't see it.
I still turn local off when I enter Jita though. |
Zirilia
Caldari
XIII Interstellar Legion
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Posted - 2009.06.08 07:44:00 -
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Originally by: Jin Nib
Local is esspecaily fearsome because they probably have it tabbed rather then a second window and they figure anything anyone says on it is probably garbage/bot/spam anyways.
98% of the time it IS regardless of where u are.
only reason to have local in a second window is if your corp has been wardeced. |
DrefsabZN
Caldari
Butterfly Effect Mk.2
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Posted - 2009.06.08 09:05:00 -
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Only time I use local is if im in lowsec/0.0 or in a war dec, that way its intel on who's in system not to read what people are saying and thats basically how a lot of people use it now days. |
emthe
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Posted - 2009.06.08 09:42:00 -
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If someone came up to you on the street and offered free money whilst grinning, most people would be pretty wary as well  |
Jin Nib
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Posted - 2009.06.08 10:00:00 -
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Originally by: emthe
If someone came up to you on the street and offered free money whilst grinning, most people would be pretty wary as well
True, but most would take it anyways.
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gfldex
Kabelkopp
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Posted - 2009.06.08 11:41:00 -
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Is that your orca? |
Kazang
Gallente
Wrecking Shots
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Posted - 2009.06.08 11:55:00 -
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Originally by: emthe
If someone came up to you on the street and offered free money whilst grinning, most people would be pretty wary as well
I would be expecting some kind of tarp but you got to know how big the tarp is right? |
Sudiin S
Gallente
Jovian Labs
Jovian Enterprises
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Posted - 2009.06.08 12:59:00 -
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I don't remember where I read it about EVE but it said:
"If it seems too good to be true, it probably is."
So, blame the quote.
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Wild Rho
Amarr
Sniggerdly
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Posted - 2009.06.08 13:37:00 -
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Edited by: Wild Rho on 08/06/2009 13:37:18
If I saw someone offering a free 50mil isk I'd be pretty wary as well since you have no idea if it could be "illegally" acquired isk - having CCP taking it off you later can be pretty painful if you've already spent it on some new shinies. |
Benco97
Gallente
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Posted - 2009.06.08 13:42:00 -
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Originally by: Wild Rho
Edited by: Wild Rho on 08/06/2009 13:37:18
If I saw someone offering a free 50mil isk I'd be pretty wary as well since you have no idea if it could be "illegally" acquired isk - having CCP taking it off you later can be pretty painful if you've already spent it on some new shinies.
Why would someone buy isk illegally and then give it away to random people though? |
SpaceSquirrels
Caldari
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Posted - 2009.06.08 14:07:00 -
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Local chat is there to communicate? Thought it was just a lame way to scoping targets/run away when people think they're out numbered. |
Wild Rho
Amarr
Sniggerdly
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Posted - 2009.06.08 14:11:00 -
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It doesn't strictly have to have been bought to be illegal, it could have been obtained through using some other questionable method/exploit...
e.g.
- Hacking someones account and deciding to spread their wallet around purely out of malice.
- Exploiting a bug in the game that brings in alot of isk quickly either intentionally or simply through ignorance and feeling generous as you now have more isk than you really know what to do with.
There are many more potential scenarios than the two I've listed above, I just don't have the time to list all the ones I can think of.
In the end there's no way I can know where that isk has come from or what's compelling someone to be so generous. While many of the possible scenarios are unlikely it's just not worth the risk or hassle involved. |
Benco97
Gallente
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Posted - 2009.06.08 15:27:00 -
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You guys know I'm good for it though, right?
You'd accept MY isk surely?  |
KaarBaak
Minmatar
Squirrel Team
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Posted - 2009.06.08 15:33:00 -
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Either:
a) only allow trial accounts to post in newb help (which is already heavily moderated) and player-made channels.
or
b) allow players to automatically block any/all chat from trial accounts.
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